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Adam K:
All right.

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Adam K:
How's it going?

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Aaron:
Good. Good.

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Adam K:
How's your day?

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Adam K:
How's your week?

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Adam K:
Seemed like a busy boy.

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Aaron:
Yeah. I've been, uh, staying up
late the last couple of weeks.

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Aaron:
Finishing thing and.

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Adam K:
This is for your, uh.

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Adam K:
Was it like Tinder for old
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Adam K:
What is

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Aaron:
Tender

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Adam K:
it?

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Aaron:
for old people.

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Aaron:
Um, it's probably I, I think
I'll have it online this week,

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this coming weekend.

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Aaron:
Um,

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Adam K:
Mhm.

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Aaron:
right now I'm just doing UI, UX

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stuff that is easier to do when

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it's local.

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Aaron:
And then, um, I'll push it
online and watch as Russia and

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Aaron:
China hacks into it.

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Adam K:
Yeah. You gotta get fail to ban
installed, and you can watch it

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Adam K:
in real time as all the bots try
to knock at the front door.

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Adam K:
You should set up a honeypot
while you're doing this.

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Aaron:
Well, that's

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Adam K:
Um,

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Aaron:
what all the users are going to
be.

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Adam K:
yes.

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Aaron:
It's like it's like honey dust.

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Adam K:
Yeah, you're your password is

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also your social security

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number.

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Adam K:
And if it doesn't work, then
just email support, which, uh,

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goes to a telegram channel.

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Aaron:
That's the other thing too.

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I have support, like, it'll have

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to be one of these services that

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have just kind of basic

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knowledge of how the thing

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works, because they're just odds

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and ends that have to be taken

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care of if it's going to be

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legitimate.

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Aaron:
One of those things is there's

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got to be some Bangladeshi, you

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know, person on the other end

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that can guide them or at least

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confuse them enough to where

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they give up and stop hassling

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Aaron:
me.

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Aaron:
So, yeah.

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Adam K:
The, the workforce of people who
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control the robots in people's
houses or in the VR headsets or

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driving the Waymo's will

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Aaron:
Mhm.

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Adam K:
be just moonlighting for you as
well.

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Adam K:
So I'm excited for you to employ
the workforce at thirty five

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cents an hour.

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Aaron:
I didn't realize it look like
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the all these people across the
world will be piloting these

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robots that are doing battle for
their, their country's prestige

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Aaron:
and, and, you know, diplomatic
reasons, like, no, no, no, it's

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these countries all over the
world just manning robots inside

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of rich people's houses.

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Aaron:
And that's, that's what the
future is.

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Adam K:
Well, when you go for fiction,
you're supposed to like, you

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take it to its most extreme.

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Adam K:
You know, if we wanted to write

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a boring book, it would have

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been.

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Adam K:
Yeah, the you log in and you,
uh, you control someone's robot

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and you burp a baby and change
an old person's diaper.

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Adam K:
But that that wouldn't be a fun
novel.

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Aaron:
Now I can make it good.

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Adam K:
Okay. I guess, I mean, we, I
guess we do need to do a sequel

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Adam K:
at some point.

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Adam K:
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Aaron:
Uh, I'm working on my book right
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Adam K:
Yeah.

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Aaron:
That's the other thing I work on
all the time.

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Aaron:
It takes all my time.

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Adam K:
Again, I can just feed it to

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Adam K:
Claude and say, write me a new

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book.

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Adam K:
Uh, there are some, some travel
guide book or something

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Aaron:
Yeah,

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Adam K:
I saw on

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I

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Amazon.

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saw that.

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Adam K:
Yeah. I love when the prompts
are just in there, which is

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like, and then I don't know if
you saw the, the YouTuber guy,

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something green, Hank Green.

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He like, I think he like read

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his prompt in his video and kept

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Adam K:
It's just.

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Aaron:
Yeah, I see.

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Aaron:
I don't know if he's if he's one
of those dudes that does just

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like Wikipedia documentaries or
he's like one of the outdoors

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Aaron:
guys, I don't know, they all
look the same.

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Aaron:
They're all white guys with
beards

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Adam K:
Yeah.

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Aaron:
or just white nerd looking
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Adam K:
Yeah. But I think like him and
his brother invented talking

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into a camera or something.

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Aaron:
Okay.

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Adam K:
Yeah.

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Aaron:
That's nice.

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Adam K:
Yeah. They have a patent on that
and they get paid every time.

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Adam K:
I don't know, I was again, I

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called it when I did my dumb

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machinima slot video, but I was

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talking about people who are

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just burned out and they're

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like, ah, fuck it, just use the

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AI.

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And I'm like, I get it.

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Adam K:
If you're doing this as a job
full time and you know, you can

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love pizza and ice cream all you
want, but if that's all you're

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eating, it's gonna get old.

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It's gonna get tiring.

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Um, and also just being on the

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other side of it, just being

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like, it is a, it's a content

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machine.

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It's a farm.

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Adam K:
There's no like you lose the
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Aaron:
Mhm.

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Adam K:
So I'm just like, yeah, I mean,
not to excuse it.

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Adam K:
It's like, well, that's just
lazy.

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Adam K:
Or again, to like, I, I still
stand by the fact it's like you

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can make stuff.

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Adam K:
I use AI all the time for my
video stuff, but it's like, it's

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because I just don't want to
Photoshop stuff anymore.

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Aaron:
Yeah.

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Adam K:
Um, or it's like, oh, uh, before

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I would animate this video by

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keyframing it, blah, blah, blah,

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blah, blah.

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Instead, I can just like, okay,

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this isn't, I wouldn't call this

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art this, this crap that I'm

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doing, but it's like again to,

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it's just how you choose to use

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the tool.

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And if you're just using it to

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turn out crap for crap's sake, I

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get it.

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Adam K:
If people have like, their

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livelihood depends on you making

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a video about, you know, talking

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about missing chromosomes or

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whatever.

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Adam K:
But, um.

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Aaron:
The only I. I think it comes
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Aaron:
And the only instances I've seen
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when the writing is AI, when
people like writing.

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Aaron:
I think at its core is, is the,
the fountain of all creative.

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It's like it's what is the hook,
the written piece.

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Aaron:
Though anyone will forgive

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anything else AI wise or like

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synthetic wise, if the story,

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the writing is good, like

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there's this, you know, uh, it's

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this masterful storytelling on

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Instagram of this, uh, it's a

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Aaron:
J.D.

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Vance fat J.D.

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Vance, and he's always getting

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into shenanigans, and it's the

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worst AI slop, but they've made

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a character And I enjoy watching

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Adam K:
Yeah. And I think also it just
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it's just entertainment for the
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it's fine, but it's when it's
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something holier than thou or
it's, it's LARPing, as I guess

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like a writer, if you just be
like, hey, I can't write like, I

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mean, I use it just because I'm
pretty sure I'm dyslexic, but

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Aaron:
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Adam K:
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you're.

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will write.

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Adam K:
I mean, you, we wrote a book
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You saw my really fucked up, uh,
thought process of how I would

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write or rewrite it or whatever.

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So it's like I barrel through
now, which is nice.

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Adam K:
It frees up the, like the
thought process.

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Adam K:
And I, I mean, again, I'm still
pretty disassociated or

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disconnected a lot of times, but
like, I'll barrel through a

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script or a thing and then I'll
feed it to the eye and go as I'm

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Adam K:
like, you're an editor, edit my
stuff, clean it up.

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Adam K:
And then a lot of times I'll put
stuff in there.

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Adam K:
I'm like, I would never say
that.

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Adam K:
Like, that's you change the
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this, this doesn't say anything.

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Adam K:
It's like it can be used as a
good tool, but it's like, yeah,

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it has to come from somewhere.

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Adam K:
It's got to start at a creative
place.

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Adam K:
But it's like if you're just

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making a copy of a copy, then

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it's going to, it's going to be

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Adam K:
trash.

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Adam K:
So I mean, again, nothing that I
make is not trash, but,

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Aaron:
Mhm.

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Adam K:
um, just, uh, I, I have

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Adam K:
self-imposed deadlines and if I

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could hire someone, we did hire

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Adam K:
an editor.

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Adam K:
I remember she was nice.

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Aaron:
Yeah. She's

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Adam K:
We would

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Aaron:
a hard

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Adam K:
never

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ass.

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And she was good.

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Adam K:
yeah, she would send us those

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Adam K:
really nice messages of like,

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Adam K:
your

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Aaron:
Rebecca.

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Adam K:
guys's book.

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Adam K:
She was great.

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Adam K:
Yeah. She would, she would send
stuff of like, this is so deep,

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Adam K:
this thing that you wrote and
we're like, is it?

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I don't, I think I don't think
we meant to do anything here,

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but, um, thank you.

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Thank you so much.

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Adam K:
Here's, here's I'm sorry the
check didn't clear.

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Aaron:
Mhm. Sorry we're late with
everything.

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Adam K:
That was that was the guy I
hired on Fiverr for literally

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five dollars plus tax who edited
my my Overwatch video.

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Adam K:
He sent it and I'm, I remember
feeling that, uh, that sense of

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validation where he's like, you
know, your, your gameplay videos

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were so good.

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I can't wait to edit more of
these.

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Adam K:
It's like, thanks man.

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Adam K:
I'll totally owe you,
motherfucker.

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Aaron:
Mhm.

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Adam K:
You're just a stripper.

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Adam K:
Stop it.

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Aaron:
Yeah.

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Adam K:
You're you're appealing to my
ego.

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Adam K:
How dare you?

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Aaron:
I don't trust anyone who thinks
what I do is good.

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Aaron:
And I never will.

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Adam K:
That's a very good point.

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Adam K:
I had a lot of fun editing that
video, though, over the weekend.

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Aaron:
Yeah, well, it was good.

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And as always, it it shows just
how elevated you are at your

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craft, that you can put
something together that dense

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with that much detail as
relatively quickly as you do.

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Adam K:
Try to.

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Adam K:
It's that other thing, too.

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Adam K:
I'm like, I do enjoy editing, I,

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I enjoy making that sort of

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stuff.

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I always enjoyed it.

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It was just once you.

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You attach a deadline to it Or

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it's like you have this like

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sense of where it's like the

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thing all the Twitch streamers

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deal with.

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Like if they miss a day of
streaming, they lose like half

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their income or something.

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Aaron:
Mhm.

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Adam K:
I don't know, it doesn't, it
never made any sense to me.

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Adam K:
But it's, it's nice where it's
at right now where I'm like,

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Adam K:
well, if I'm making something, I
want to make it.

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Adam K:
Um, the only, the only

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self-imposed deadline I ever now

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is like, I try and this is just

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more for to keep me, I guess

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somewhat sharp.

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I don't know, but it's like, do

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one blog post a week just as

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that's just doing reps, you

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know, it's, uh, it's walking to

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Adam K:
the gym.

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Adam K:
It's not even going into the
gym.

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Aaron:
I don't know.

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Aaron:
I think it's going into the gym
and doing one set of something

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Aaron:
and then stopping.

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Adam K:
Right.

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Adam K:
It's, it's the atomic habits,

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Adam K:
uh, guide to working out, which

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is just go in there, do one

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squat.

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Adam K:
And it's like, well, at least
you got here.

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Adam K:
And then while you're there, you
might think to yourself, well,

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Adam K:
shit, I'm already here.

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Adam K:
I might as well maybe do
something a little bit more.

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Adam K:
But yeah.

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Aaron:
Apparently fifty cent goes to my
gym, but I haven't seen him yet.

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And, uh, I don't know.

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Aaron:
Every time there's like a group
of black people in there, I, I'm

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staring at them and they
probably think I'm staring at

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them for the reasons why white
people usually stare at black

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Aaron:
people in the South.

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Aaron:
But I'm not.

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Aaron:
I'm there.

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Aaron:
I'm their ally.

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Aaron:
But also I'm just looking for

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fifty cent and I haven't seen

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Aaron:
him yet.

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Adam K:
As long as you don't have your
phone out and you're asking

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Adam K:
questions a mile a minute at a
high, high pitched tone, I think

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Adam K:
you'll be okay.

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Aaron:
No, I don't have my phone out,
but I do yell across the gym,

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Aaron:
which one of y'all's fifty cent?

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Aaron:
And, uh, I usually don't have my
glasses on or anything, so.

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Adam K:
Yeah.

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Aaron:
It's

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Adam K:
That's

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Aaron:
going alright,

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Adam K:
okay.

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Aaron:
I think they're.

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Adam K:
Yeah. Have

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Aaron:
Yeah.

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Adam K:
you have you thought about my

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Adam K:
proposal of getting your eyes

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Adam K:
fixed?

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Aaron:
Uh, I have thought about it,

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Adam K:
Yeah.

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Aaron:
and, uh, I forgot about it
again.

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Adam K:
That's good.

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Adam K:
Don't.

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Adam K:
Don't do things I suggest for
you.

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Aaron:
I've got other things I got to
spend money on at the moment.

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Adam K:
I know.

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Aaron:
There's, like, so many things,
and my eyes are so low on the

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Aaron:
list of priorities.

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Adam K:
Well, we're going to fix our

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Adam K:
teeth with some weird gel that

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Adam K:
we're going to start rubbing on

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Adam K:
ourselves.

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Aaron:
I've

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Adam K:
And then,

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Aaron:
been doing

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Adam K:
uh,

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Aaron:
that.

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Aaron:
Yeah,

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Adam K:
um,

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Aaron:
that I've actually been

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Adam K:
with

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Aaron:
doing.

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Adam K:
that new AI video model, people

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Adam K:
are making new episodes of

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Adam K:
Seinfeld, and they're pretty

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Adam K:
unhinged.

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Aaron:
What?

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Adam K:
Uh. Well, so this thing I, I
sent you some of those clips.

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Adam K:
I was like, fucking around with
it.

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Aaron:
Yeah.

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Adam K:
Um, what's nice about this one?

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Adam K:
It's called mini Max H three.

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Adam K:
I think

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Aaron:
It's another minimax model.

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Adam K:
it's

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Aaron:
Minimax.

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Adam K:
an was that one I don't I'm not
familiar with it.

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Adam K:
Um, I just, you know, it's

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Adam K:
always exciting when a new like

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Adam K:
tool comes out, you get to play

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Adam K:
with it.

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Adam K:
But

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Aaron:
Yeah.

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Adam K:
this one's open so you can

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Adam K:
download it and run it locally

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Adam K:
on

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Aaron:
What?

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Adam K:
your.

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Adam K:
Yeah.

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Aaron:
Well, there's there's no way you
can.

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Aaron:
It probably takes for fucking
ever, huh?

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Adam K:
So yes and no. I ran a couple

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Adam K:
tests today, so it's really good

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Adam K:
at animation.

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Adam K:
And this is

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Aaron:
Yeah.

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Adam K:
this is one of those things that
like, I mean, again, I know

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Adam K:
there's like the sanctity of
animation, but then I'm like,

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Adam K:
well, how this is, this has been
going on for a while where you

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Adam K:
have artists drawing the scene
and then they send it to Korea,

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Aaron:
Right.

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Adam K:
which in this is now just the
AI, I guess

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Aaron:
Simpsons.

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Adam K:
in this.

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Aaron:
Yeah.

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Adam K:
Yes, basically.

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Adam K:
And then that animation is sent
back and then it's cleaned up by

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Adam K:
someone who makes two hundred
grand a year, um,

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Aaron:
Yeah.

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Adam K:
until they're, you know, let go.

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Adam K:
But so like, I never thought it

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Adam K:
was like a, you know, a

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Adam K:
prestigious line of work to

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Adam K:
begin with.

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Adam K:
And I'm not a fan of putting,
you know, animators out of work.

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Adam K:
Um, we, we live, we live seeing
that for years.

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Adam K:
Um.

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Aaron:
Two hundred thousand dollars.

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Aaron:
That's them working for twenty
years.

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Adam K:
Well, yeah, I was talking more

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Adam K:
of like someone at like a Disney

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Adam K:
or maybe Warner Brothers, I

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Adam K:
don't know.

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Adam K:
Either way it

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Aaron:
Yeah.

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Adam K:
again.

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Adam K:
Artists and animators are, I
believe, the unsung heroes of

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Adam K:
the entertainment industry.

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Adam K:
And they're just no one treats

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Adam K:
them the way they should be

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Adam K:
treated.

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Adam K:
Same with like 3D artists and
animation.

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Adam K:
Any.

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Adam K:
Anyway, what

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Aaron:
Yeah.

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Adam K:
I what excites me about this is
somebody who.

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Adam K:
Like they could basically come

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Adam K:
up with their own art style, and

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Adam K:
then they can animate their own

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Adam K:
thing and put out their own

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Adam K:
movie.

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Adam K:
And

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Aaron:
Mhm.

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Adam K:
so it's, it's like they couldn't
afford to hire the, the Korean

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Adam K:
animators to begin with.

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Adam K:
Like, that's a cool idea.

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Adam K:
But the problem is AI is just
been so bastardized and sullied.

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Adam K:
It's just like, I imagine if you

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Adam K:
try to convince any kind of like

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Adam K:
independent artist or animator

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Adam K:
to like, do their own thing,

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Adam K:
they'd be like, well, no, it's

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Adam K:
AI.

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Adam K:
AI is evil and I will kill you
now.

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Adam K:
So probably won't happen.

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Adam K:
But a man can dream.

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Aaron:
I was asking you.

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Aaron:
Well, I agree with all this, but

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Aaron:
I was asked about what kind of

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Aaron:
processing this thing takes on

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Aaron:
your machine.

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Aaron:
And if it's difficult, is it I

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Aaron:
mean, is it is it killing your

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Aaron:
RTX three thousand ninety or

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Aaron:
whatever you.

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Aaron:
I don't know what you have.

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Adam K:
I got thirty nine.

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Adam K:
Yeah, I got, I got my twenty
four gigs.

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Adam K:
I, I got in at the right at the
cutoff point I, I up,

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Aaron:
I.

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Adam K:
I got one hundred and twenty
eight gigs of Ddr5 ram in there

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Adam K:
before the prices shot up.

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Adam K:
I don't know why I just some
Nostradamus ink.

461
00:14:37,350 --> 00:14:38,389
Adam K:
That's my spider sense.

462
00:14:38,389 --> 00:14:39,750
Adam K:
Just like, hey, when prices are

463
00:14:39,750 --> 00:14:40,669
Adam K:
going to go up, you should buy

464
00:14:40,669 --> 00:14:41,740
Adam K:
this shit.

465
00:14:41,740 --> 00:14:44,539
Adam K:
Um but no I, so I ran one test

466
00:14:44,539 --> 00:14:48,320
Adam K:
at like low res and it was like,

467
00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,059
Adam K:
I think like three sixty P or

468
00:14:50,059 --> 00:14:50,779
Adam K:
something like

469
00:14:50,495 --> 00:14:51,215
Aaron:
Yeah.

470
00:14:50,580 --> 00:14:51,299
Adam K:
that.

471
00:14:51,299 --> 00:14:54,419
Adam K:
That only took like seven
minutes for a five second scene.

472
00:14:54,215 --> 00:14:55,014
Aaron:
Really.

473
00:14:54,860 --> 00:14:57,419
Adam K:
Yeah. And it's pretty good.

474
00:14:57,419 --> 00:14:58,259
Adam K:
It's just blurry.

475
00:14:58,259 --> 00:14:59,539
Adam K:
It's not great.

476
00:14:59,335 --> 00:14:59,815
Aaron:
So

477
00:14:59,500 --> 00:15:00,139
Adam K:
So.

478
00:14:59,615 --> 00:15:03,174
Aaron:
basically this is going to be HD
in a year.

479
00:15:03,299 --> 00:15:05,500
Adam K:
Well, so I did, I ran an HD
test.

480
00:15:05,500 --> 00:15:08,720
Adam K:
I got it in ten eighty and it
took forty minutes

481
00:15:08,294 --> 00:15:09,054
Aaron:
Okay.

482
00:15:08,519 --> 00:15:11,779
Adam K:
and it added extra artifacts and
did all this other stuff.

483
00:15:11,779 --> 00:15:15,039
Adam K:
But I'm like, I'm just doing,

484
00:15:15,039 --> 00:15:16,659
Adam K:
I'm working on something that's

485
00:15:16,659 --> 00:15:17,740
Adam K:
like, yeah, this is kind of just

486
00:15:17,740 --> 00:15:18,259
Adam K:
for me.

487
00:15:18,259 --> 00:15:20,580
Adam K:
I don't know, I want to mess
around with it just to see if I

488
00:15:20,580 --> 00:15:21,700
Adam K:
could do this.

489
00:15:21,700 --> 00:15:27,059
Adam K:
But, um, yeah, you can also just
run it on a cloud server, you

490
00:15:27,059 --> 00:15:30,940
Adam K:
know, someone else's gear and it
will kick out a 1080p animated

491
00:15:30,940 --> 00:15:32,100
Adam K:
scene in no time.

492
00:15:32,254 --> 00:15:35,534
Aaron:
Oh. So yeah, you run it on uh.

493
00:15:35,534 --> 00:15:36,575
Aaron:
Oh yeah.

494
00:15:36,575 --> 00:15:37,095
Aaron:
Name one.

495
00:15:37,095 --> 00:15:37,414
Aaron:
Okay.

496
00:15:37,414 --> 00:15:37,735
Aaron:
You

497
00:15:37,419 --> 00:15:38,240
Adam K:
Run

498
00:15:37,534 --> 00:15:38,335
Aaron:
could deploy

499
00:15:38,039 --> 00:15:38,740
Adam K:
pod

500
00:15:38,134 --> 00:15:39,134
Aaron:
it basically.

501
00:15:38,539 --> 00:15:39,179
Adam K:
or

502
00:15:38,975 --> 00:15:39,754
Aaron:
Yeah,

503
00:15:38,980 --> 00:15:39,980
Adam K:
yeah, anything

504
00:15:39,554 --> 00:15:40,414
Aaron:
yeah.

505
00:15:39,779 --> 00:15:42,639
Adam K:
like that so that it's exciting

506
00:15:42,639 --> 00:15:43,679
Adam K:
just because I'm like, oh, cool,

507
00:15:43,679 --> 00:15:46,399
Adam K:
this democratizes people's

508
00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:47,000
Adam K:
workflows.

509
00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,539
Adam K:
But again, it's, I know the, the

510
00:15:50,539 --> 00:15:53,399
Adam K:
stink that AI has attached to it

511
00:15:53,399 --> 00:15:55,000
Adam K:
and just all the like, obviously

512
00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:55,840
Adam K:
the stuff was trained on

513
00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:56,559
Adam K:
people's work.

514
00:15:56,559 --> 00:15:58,379
Adam K:
Um, I saw the thing where people

515
00:15:58,379 --> 00:16:00,659
Adam K:
authors are suing, was it, uh,

516
00:16:00,659 --> 00:16:01,639
Adam K:
anthropic?

517
00:16:01,639 --> 00:16:04,120
Adam K:
And I was like, oh, maybe we can
get in on that.

518
00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:05,159
Adam K:
And then we

519
00:16:04,914 --> 00:16:05,315
Aaron:
Get

520
00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:05,419
Adam K:
look

521
00:16:05,115 --> 00:16:05,554
Aaron:
our

522
00:16:05,220 --> 00:16:05,759
Adam K:
and

523
00:16:06,355 --> 00:16:07,315
Aaron:
settlement.

524
00:16:07,559 --> 00:16:08,759
Adam K:
I was going to say, we, we look

525
00:16:08,759 --> 00:16:10,379
Adam K:
into it and they're like, we try

526
00:16:10,379 --> 00:16:11,440
Adam K:
to sue them, but they say, no,

527
00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,220
Adam K:
we, we actively did not scan

528
00:16:13,220 --> 00:16:14,360
Adam K:
your book.

529
00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:14,759
Adam K:
We

530
00:16:14,554 --> 00:16:15,274
Aaron:
Mhm.

531
00:16:14,559 --> 00:16:16,840
Adam K:
didn't we didn't want anything

532
00:16:16,514 --> 00:16:16,995
Aaron:
We

533
00:16:16,639 --> 00:16:17,000
Adam K:
to

534
00:16:16,794 --> 00:16:17,394
Aaron:
already

535
00:16:16,799 --> 00:16:17,399
Adam K:
do with

536
00:16:17,195 --> 00:16:17,654
Aaron:
had

537
00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:17,639
Adam K:
it.

538
00:16:17,455 --> 00:16:22,355
Aaron:
AI developed to to know what are
bad books to skip.

539
00:16:22,355 --> 00:16:24,595
Aaron:
That was the first thing that we
found.

540
00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,100
Adam K:
That was that was an old SNL
sketch where it's all the

541
00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:30,720
Adam K:
artists suing Napster.

542
00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:31,720
Adam K:
And it was just an excuse for

543
00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:32,960
Adam K:
people to do impressions of

544
00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:33,840
Adam K:
artists.

545
00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,559
Adam K:
And Conan O'Brien is playing
right, said Fred.

546
00:16:36,559 --> 00:16:39,470
Adam K:
And then the judge goes, uh,
well, according to our records,

547
00:16:39,470 --> 00:16:44,710
Adam K:
your song I'm Too Sexy has been
downloaded exactly zero times.

548
00:16:44,710 --> 00:16:45,429
Adam K:
He's like.

549
00:16:45,429 --> 00:16:45,990
Adam K:
He's like, okay.

550
00:16:45,990 --> 00:16:47,710
Adam K:
Was it like a sandwich or
something?

551
00:16:47,710 --> 00:16:49,669
Adam K:
I can get here.

552
00:16:49,669 --> 00:16:51,669
Adam K:
Uh, anyway.

553
00:16:51,669 --> 00:16:52,629
Adam K:
Nothing's original.

554
00:16:52,629 --> 00:16:54,789
Adam K:
We're just circling the drain.

555
00:16:55,414 --> 00:16:56,335
Aaron:
Can you?

556
00:16:57,495 --> 00:16:58,215
Aaron:
How so?

557
00:16:58,215 --> 00:16:58,615
Aaron:
When?

558
00:16:58,615 --> 00:17:00,294
Aaron:
So you ran it locally.

559
00:17:00,294 --> 00:17:01,615
Aaron:
How did you use the.

560
00:17:01,615 --> 00:17:03,215
Aaron:
Was there a UI for it?

561
00:17:03,029 --> 00:17:03,950
Adam K:
Yeah. He's comfy.

562
00:17:03,950 --> 00:17:04,990
Adam K:
UI

563
00:17:04,734 --> 00:17:05,494
Aaron:
Okay.

564
00:17:04,789 --> 00:17:10,349
Adam K:
that I hate that that's sort of
become the, the standard because

565
00:17:10,349 --> 00:17:11,430
Adam K:
it's all those nodes.

566
00:17:11,430 --> 00:17:12,750
Adam K:
It's the spaghetti thing.

567
00:17:12,750 --> 00:17:16,990
Adam K:
And it's, it's, it's hard to
keep up with it.

568
00:17:16,990 --> 00:17:21,569
Adam K:
And I, I, so I kind of fall out
of favor with it typically, but,

569
00:17:21,569 --> 00:17:25,769
Adam K:
uh, people will make workflows
that are easier, you know, to,

570
00:17:25,769 --> 00:17:26,589
Adam K:
to follow sometimes.

571
00:17:26,589 --> 00:17:29,069
Adam K:
But then some people are like, I
made a free thing and you look

572
00:17:29,069 --> 00:17:32,109
Adam K:
at it and it's just, it looks
like Spider-Man just splurged

573
00:17:32,109 --> 00:17:33,589
Adam K:
all over your screen.

574
00:17:33,535 --> 00:17:34,295
Aaron:
Yeah.

575
00:17:34,309 --> 00:17:36,509
Adam K:
So I don't know.

576
00:17:36,509 --> 00:17:39,130
Adam K:
But yeah, so the workflow, I was
actually just doing this right

577
00:17:39,130 --> 00:17:41,089
Adam K:
before we jumped on here.

578
00:17:41,089 --> 00:17:45,130
Adam K:
Um, which so someone came up

579
00:17:45,130 --> 00:17:46,809
Adam K:
with an idea of, I guess they

580
00:17:46,809 --> 00:17:47,769
Adam K:
didn't come up with this idea,

581
00:17:47,769 --> 00:17:49,829
Adam K:
but you use minimax for the

582
00:17:49,829 --> 00:17:50,970
Adam K:
animation, which it does great

583
00:17:50,970 --> 00:17:53,369
Adam K:
animation and like pretty

584
00:17:53,369 --> 00:17:54,289
Adam K:
passable stuff.

585
00:17:54,289 --> 00:17:56,490
Adam K:
And you do it at a low
resolution and then you upscale

586
00:17:56,490 --> 00:17:59,809
Adam K:
it with another video model,
which will go much faster.

587
00:17:59,809 --> 00:18:01,410
Adam K:
And it's supposed to increase
your.

588
00:18:01,484 --> 00:18:03,525
Aaron:
Topaz or whatever.

589
00:18:03,690 --> 00:18:05,450
Adam K:
Uh, the well, there's like light

590
00:18:05,450 --> 00:18:07,809
Adam K:
and there's wan or something

591
00:18:07,809 --> 00:18:08,490
Adam K:
like that.

592
00:18:08,490 --> 00:18:11,930
Adam K:
Um, again, like I'm always just
looking at this stuff from

593
00:18:11,930 --> 00:18:13,130
Adam K:
usually from afar.

594
00:18:13,130 --> 00:18:15,690
Adam K:
And then every once in a while
I'll, I'll like, all right, I'll

595
00:18:15,690 --> 00:18:19,809
Adam K:
download eighty gigs worth of
checkpoints and models and, and

596
00:18:19,809 --> 00:18:22,329
Adam K:
give it a try once and then
forget about it.

597
00:18:22,329 --> 00:18:26,609
Adam K:
But um, yeah, I'm gonna try up
raising it and just see again,

598
00:18:26,609 --> 00:18:29,650
Adam K:
just testing all this stuff just
to see what you can do with it.

599
00:18:29,650 --> 00:18:33,369
Adam K:
But man, if you can just start
animating, having your stuff

600
00:18:33,369 --> 00:18:35,730
Adam K:
like animated, like the dumb,
shitty stuff that I'm doing,

601
00:18:35,730 --> 00:18:38,640
Adam K:
like, yeah, that would save me
fifty bucks every few months

602
00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:43,480
Adam K:
that I keep giving to the, the
comfy UI subscription plan.

603
00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:44,599
Adam K:
That would be nice.

604
00:18:44,384 --> 00:18:47,484
Aaron:
And really, again, if you have a

605
00:18:47,484 --> 00:18:50,805
Aaron:
good script, like something that

606
00:18:50,805 --> 00:18:53,345
Aaron:
is engaging and is interesting

607
00:18:53,345 --> 00:18:54,664
Aaron:
and it's ultimately the writing

608
00:18:54,664 --> 00:18:56,144
Aaron:
is good.

609
00:18:56,144 --> 00:18:58,065
Aaron:
It, it, it's okay.

610
00:18:58,065 --> 00:18:58,984
Aaron:
Like it's fine.

611
00:18:58,984 --> 00:19:01,505
Aaron:
Like people, I think they forget
about that shit.

612
00:19:01,505 --> 00:19:06,785
Aaron:
It's when it's just lazy when
it's a prop, God damn it.

613
00:19:08,785 --> 00:19:11,105
Aaron:
Mika brought home this like this

614
00:19:11,105 --> 00:19:12,785
Aaron:
oil diffuser and it's just been

615
00:19:12,785 --> 00:19:13,744
Aaron:
killing my.

616
00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:14,660
Adam K:
Oh,

617
00:19:14,265 --> 00:19:14,984
Aaron:
Yeah.

618
00:19:14,460 --> 00:19:15,900
Adam K:
they're going to say like, she,

619
00:19:15,900 --> 00:19:18,000
Adam K:
she had a conference in Michigan

620
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,420
Adam K:
and came back with a bunch of

621
00:19:19,420 --> 00:19:20,759
Adam K:
iceberg lettuce.

622
00:19:20,759 --> 00:19:23,079
Adam K:
And it's just, it's the worst.

623
00:19:23,184 --> 00:19:25,305
Aaron:
No, there's none of that.

624
00:19:25,305 --> 00:19:25,904
Aaron:
There's.

625
00:19:25,559 --> 00:19:26,160
Adam K:
Yeah.

626
00:19:25,744 --> 00:19:27,505
Aaron:
We. We avoid most.

627
00:19:27,505 --> 00:19:30,984
Aaron:
We're into cabbage mostly here.

628
00:19:30,984 --> 00:19:31,585
Aaron:
Kimchi.

629
00:19:31,585 --> 00:19:32,184
Aaron:
Cabbage.

630
00:19:32,184 --> 00:19:32,785
Aaron:
But.

631
00:19:33,079 --> 00:19:37,259
Adam K:
I only eat salad that comes in a
big tub of plastic.

632
00:19:37,259 --> 00:19:38,740
Adam K:
Hey, I need to run real quick.

633
00:19:38,740 --> 00:19:39,180
Adam K:
Be right back.

634
00:19:39,180 --> 00:19:39,859
Adam K:
Just need to grab.

635
00:19:39,859 --> 00:19:41,900
Adam K:
Get something out of the oven.

636
00:19:41,900 --> 00:19:42,380
Adam K:
Give me

637
00:19:42,055 --> 00:19:42,454
Aaron:
Watch

638
00:19:42,180 --> 00:19:42,500
Adam K:
two

639
00:19:42,255 --> 00:19:42,775
Aaron:
this.

640
00:19:42,299 --> 00:19:43,019
Adam K:
seconds.

641
00:19:43,055 --> 00:19:45,535
Aaron:
Watch this Seinfeld episode.

642
00:19:45,535 --> 00:19:46,015
Aaron:
Let's

643
00:19:45,579 --> 00:19:46,039
Adam K:
Keep

644
00:19:45,815 --> 00:19:46,615
Aaron:
see

645
00:19:45,839 --> 00:19:46,500
Adam K:
talking.

646
00:19:46,414 --> 00:19:48,015
Aaron:
the mini max.

647
00:19:49,694 --> 00:19:51,494
Aaron:
Oh, sick.

648
00:19:54,134 --> 00:19:57,335
Aaron:
Maybe we're just doomed to watch

649
00:19:57,335 --> 00:20:00,994
Aaron:
Seinfeld reruns until we all

650
00:20:00,994 --> 00:20:01,974
Aaron:
fucking die.

651
00:20:01,974 --> 00:20:04,694
Aaron:
Oh my God.

652
00:20:05,894 --> 00:20:09,555
Aaron:
You know, if anyone's going to
make money from

653
00:20:08,380 --> 00:20:09,660
Adam K:
I don't edit these

654
00:20:09,355 --> 00:20:10,275
Aaron:
all

655
00:20:09,460 --> 00:20:10,420
Adam K:
things.

656
00:20:10,075 --> 00:20:13,654
Aaron:
of this Seinfeld shit, I.

657
00:20:12,859 --> 00:20:13,940
Adam K:
Did you watch it yet?

658
00:20:14,375 --> 00:20:15,974
Aaron:
I'm watching this one.

659
00:20:15,974 --> 00:20:18,894
Aaron:
Someone like they it says their

660
00:20:18,894 --> 00:20:20,095
Aaron:
own script from the early two

661
00:20:20,095 --> 00:20:20,775
Aaron:
thousand.

662
00:20:20,775 --> 00:20:24,575
Aaron:
And they used mini max to, um,
to put it together.

663
00:20:24,575 --> 00:20:28,494
Aaron:
And it looks like the first
three minutes of an episode.

664
00:20:29,099 --> 00:20:29,779
Adam K:
Yeah.

665
00:20:29,615 --> 00:20:32,375
Aaron:
And I'm just thinking like, is

666
00:20:32,375 --> 00:20:35,575
Aaron:
Seinfeld and his and his

667
00:20:35,575 --> 00:20:36,154
Aaron:
offspring.

668
00:20:36,154 --> 00:20:39,394
Aaron:
Are they just going to make
billions of dollars until the

669
00:20:39,394 --> 00:20:40,355
Aaron:
end of time?

670
00:20:40,355 --> 00:20:42,954
Aaron:
Because all there is is Seinfeld
to watch.

671
00:20:42,954 --> 00:20:45,154
Aaron:
It just keeps getting bought and

672
00:20:45,154 --> 00:20:47,954
Aaron:
redistributed forever and ever

673
00:20:47,954 --> 00:20:48,474
Aaron:
and ever.

674
00:20:48,474 --> 00:20:50,714
Aaron:
Like this this nineties show

675
00:20:50,714 --> 00:20:53,914
Aaron:
that's like, really there were

676
00:20:53,914 --> 00:20:56,394
Aaron:
like three, okay, there's like

677
00:20:56,394 --> 00:20:57,994
Aaron:
four good seasons of this

678
00:20:57,994 --> 00:20:59,035
Aaron:
because the first two or three

679
00:20:59,035 --> 00:21:00,154
Aaron:
are like, what the fuck is going

680
00:21:00,154 --> 00:21:01,115
Aaron:
on here?

681
00:21:01,115 --> 00:21:01,914
Aaron:
This is slow.

682
00:21:01,914 --> 00:21:03,835
Aaron:
And, and the first season was
like four episodes.

683
00:21:03,835 --> 00:21:07,394
Aaron:
But like, I Seinfeld's fine.

684
00:21:07,394 --> 00:21:12,375
Aaron:
It's, it's, it's good, but it
can't be the only content for

685
00:21:12,375 --> 00:21:14,194
Aaron:
until the end of time.

686
00:21:14,194 --> 00:21:16,555
Aaron:
And I think that's what's
happening.

687
00:21:16,890 --> 00:21:17,849
Adam K:
It feels that way.

688
00:21:17,849 --> 00:21:23,250
Adam K:
But with this stuff, people,
what they're doing is it's it's

689
00:21:23,250 --> 00:21:25,410
Adam K:
completely open and free.

690
00:21:25,410 --> 00:21:28,569
Adam K:
So again, it's stolen content.

691
00:21:28,315 --> 00:21:29,115
Aaron:
Yeah.

692
00:21:28,769 --> 00:21:31,210
Adam K:
So but then it doesn't matter

693
00:21:31,210 --> 00:21:33,509
Adam K:
because people still stream

694
00:21:33,509 --> 00:21:33,750
Adam K:
stuff.

695
00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:36,630
Adam K:
People still rent DVDs from
Redbox like

696
00:21:36,424 --> 00:21:37,265
Aaron:
Spider-Man

697
00:21:36,430 --> 00:21:37,410
Adam K:
there were,

698
00:21:37,065 --> 00:21:38,625
Aaron:
just made a trillion dollars

699
00:21:38,210 --> 00:21:39,349
Adam K:
right?

700
00:21:38,424 --> 00:21:39,585
Aaron:
over the weekend.

701
00:21:39,390 --> 00:21:45,069
Adam K:
Yeah. And I guarantee that's on
some pirated website you can

702
00:21:45,069 --> 00:21:47,269
Adam K:
watch right now with someone
laughing during the entire

703
00:21:47,269 --> 00:21:50,809
Adam K:
movie, sitting in front of you,
and probably like a gambling URL

704
00:21:50,809 --> 00:21:54,630
Adam K:
in the bottom left corner, but
people are still going to pay

705
00:21:54,630 --> 00:21:56,269
Adam K:
for stuff regardless.

706
00:21:56,269 --> 00:21:57,450
Adam K:
It's there's that barrier to

707
00:21:57,450 --> 00:22:00,309
Adam K:
entry of like the whole thing

708
00:22:00,309 --> 00:22:01,269
Adam K:
was if you make something more

709
00:22:01,269 --> 00:22:02,769
Adam K:
convenient than Napster and you

710
00:22:02,769 --> 00:22:03,750
Adam K:
hide it from Google search

711
00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:05,869
Adam K:
results, people are going to pay

712
00:22:05,869 --> 00:22:06,230
Adam K:
for it.

713
00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:08,089
Adam K:
So yeah, people can make these

714
00:22:08,089 --> 00:22:10,670
Adam K:
AI slop Seinfeld videos until

715
00:22:10,670 --> 00:22:12,890
Adam K:
the end of time, but they they

716
00:22:12,890 --> 00:22:15,670
Adam K:
won't hurt Jerry's bank account

717
00:22:15,670 --> 00:22:16,470
Adam K:
at all.

718
00:22:17,704 --> 00:22:21,704
Aaron:
Now, and he'll continue to think
that Palestine doesn't exist.

719
00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:25,869
Adam K:
What's the deal with Palestine?

720
00:22:26,144 --> 00:22:29,944
Aaron:
What's the deal with the
forsaken people?

721
00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:34,500
Adam K:
Yeah, much like a lot of
comedians.

722
00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:37,579
Adam K:
I'm great at not reading the
room, too, so.

723
00:22:39,724 --> 00:22:42,045
Aaron:
It's the ultimate expression of
fuck you money.

724
00:22:42,045 --> 00:22:45,005
Aaron:
It's really it's it's, uh,
genocide.

725
00:22:45,005 --> 00:22:46,224
Aaron:
Money is

726
00:22:45,779 --> 00:22:46,339
Adam K:
Oh.

727
00:22:46,025 --> 00:22:46,805
Aaron:
what you.

728
00:22:46,805 --> 00:22:49,444
Aaron:
That's the elevated version of
fuck you money.

729
00:22:49,444 --> 00:22:52,285
Aaron:
It's it's mass genocide.

730
00:22:55,404 --> 00:22:56,085
Aaron:
Sorry.

731
00:22:55,859 --> 00:22:56,579
Adam K:
You're.

732
00:22:55,884 --> 00:22:57,684
Aaron:
I'm looking at this this model.

733
00:22:57,684 --> 00:23:00,805
Aaron:
I'm trying to see if it's
censored or not.

734
00:23:03,579 --> 00:23:04,819
Adam K:
Wait, you're using it?

735
00:23:05,085 --> 00:23:11,325
Aaron:
No. Well, I'm trying to find
some site that that hosts it and

736
00:23:11,325 --> 00:23:15,345
Aaron:
some rapper that's, you know, so
I don't have to deal with comfy

737
00:23:15,345 --> 00:23:17,484
Aaron:
right now, but I'll just deal
with this later.

738
00:23:17,460 --> 00:23:22,220
Adam K:
Yeah. I found the best way to
test this stuff is you.

739
00:23:22,220 --> 00:23:23,299
Adam K:
You just give.

740
00:23:23,299 --> 00:23:25,059
Adam K:
You just buy credits on comfy.

741
00:23:25,059 --> 00:23:26,579
Adam K:
They have like a cloud version.

742
00:23:26,644 --> 00:23:27,365
Aaron:
Yeah.

743
00:23:26,740 --> 00:23:30,839
Adam K:
And then you can download
workflows that use API access

744
00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:32,359
Adam K:
and it just connects that way.

745
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,339
Adam K:
And then that way you can just
you run it on some other server,

746
00:23:35,339 --> 00:23:38,400
Adam K:
you know, you, you can, I think
they have like a meter that

747
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:43,359
Adam K:
shows the water draining from
their local neighborhood.

748
00:23:43,424 --> 00:23:44,224
Aaron:
Nice.

749
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,519
Adam K:
It shows the amount of children
you killed, um, with your, your

750
00:23:48,519 --> 00:23:49,839
Adam K:
AI generated video.

751
00:23:49,839 --> 00:23:55,400
Adam K:
But um, with that, yes, you can
make your own Seinfeld videos.

752
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,039
Adam K:
I just remember what was it,
twenty nineteen, twenty twenty

753
00:23:59,039 --> 00:24:03,440
Adam K:
when you were trying to make
your evil Star Trek video?

754
00:24:02,704 --> 00:24:04,865
Aaron:
That was, uh, twenty eighteen.

755
00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:08,720
Adam K:
Yeah, I still, I think I have
that somewhere.

756
00:24:08,865 --> 00:24:12,025
Aaron:
I just can't like, I don't like

757
00:24:12,025 --> 00:24:14,265
Aaron:
saying that I'm a visionary and

758
00:24:14,265 --> 00:24:15,704
Aaron:
I'm ahead of my time genius and

759
00:24:15,704 --> 00:24:16,704
Aaron:
all that other stuff, but

760
00:24:16,704 --> 00:24:19,865
Aaron:
really, I all those things were

761
00:24:19,865 --> 00:24:20,704
Aaron:
true.

762
00:24:20,704 --> 00:24:25,464
Aaron:
I was developing this thing
before with technology that was

763
00:24:25,464 --> 00:24:28,535
Aaron:
so, so infantile.

764
00:24:28,535 --> 00:24:31,375
Aaron:
If I had only waited eight
years.

765
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:36,349
Adam K:
But you've you've kind of had

766
00:24:36,349 --> 00:24:37,950
Adam K:
your finger somewhat on the

767
00:24:37,950 --> 00:24:38,190
Adam K:
pulse.

768
00:24:38,190 --> 00:24:40,970
Adam K:
Like I wasn't following any of
the deep fake stuff

769
00:24:41,255 --> 00:24:41,974
Aaron:
Mhm.

770
00:24:41,769 --> 00:24:42,710
Adam K:
at all.

771
00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:47,190
Adam K:
Um, and you were like on top of
it and you're like it only with

772
00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:52,589
Adam K:
all this work that I do, after
two weeks, I get two point five

773
00:24:52,589 --> 00:24:53,589
Adam K:
seconds of content.

774
00:24:53,589 --> 00:24:55,029
Adam K:
I was like, this is dumb.

775
00:24:54,894 --> 00:24:56,535
Aaron:
Crazy for a little while.

776
00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:57,430
Adam K:
Yeah.

777
00:24:57,134 --> 00:25:01,875
Aaron:
It was, uh, really, Covid was
such a saving grace because it

778
00:25:01,875 --> 00:25:06,734
Aaron:
kind of masked this deep spiral
I was going into.

779
00:25:06,734 --> 00:25:08,494
Aaron:
And and once everyone else was

780
00:25:08,494 --> 00:25:10,375
Aaron:
in a spiral, you don't stand out

781
00:25:10,375 --> 00:25:10,855
Aaron:
as much.

782
00:25:10,855 --> 00:25:13,394
Aaron:
And then as everyone kind of

783
00:25:13,394 --> 00:25:14,855
Aaron:
stayed in it, I lifted out of

784
00:25:14,855 --> 00:25:15,055
Aaron:
it.

785
00:25:15,055 --> 00:25:15,694
Aaron:
So.

786
00:25:16,829 --> 00:25:17,549
Adam K:
It's just funny.

787
00:25:17,549 --> 00:25:21,309
Adam K:
Like, because like when Stable
Diffusion was at one point five

788
00:25:21,309 --> 00:25:22,750
Adam K:
came out and I was like, oh,
what is this?

789
00:25:22,750 --> 00:25:23,230
Adam K:
This is cool.

790
00:25:23,230 --> 00:25:26,309
Adam K:
Like you and I were messing with
it and we didn't know how to use

791
00:25:26,309 --> 00:25:26,950
Adam K:
any of the settings.

792
00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:29,890
Adam K:
I think we try to make like
Clint Eastwood doing something

793
00:25:29,890 --> 00:25:34,609
Adam K:
or we made some like Budweiser
ad is just utter shit images and

794
00:25:34,609 --> 00:25:35,809
Adam K:
we're laughing like, hahaha.

795
00:25:35,809 --> 00:25:38,970
Adam K:
And then like that stuff.

796
00:25:38,970 --> 00:25:40,670
Adam K:
That was four years ago,

797
00:25:40,394 --> 00:25:41,115
Aaron:
Yeah.

798
00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:41,410
Adam K:
roughly.

799
00:25:41,410 --> 00:25:47,210
Adam K:
And it's just insane to see like
how fast it's progressed.

800
00:25:47,210 --> 00:25:48,450
Adam K:
But again, too, it's like if

801
00:25:48,450 --> 00:25:50,269
Adam K:
you're not following it week to

802
00:25:50,269 --> 00:25:52,230
Adam K:
week, it it is, it just becomes

803
00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:52,930
Adam K:
like whiplash.

804
00:25:52,930 --> 00:25:54,650
Adam K:
So it's just funny to think like

805
00:25:54,650 --> 00:25:56,410
Adam K:
starting with this tool, trying

806
00:25:56,410 --> 00:25:57,890
Adam K:
to do like a deepfake face

807
00:25:57,890 --> 00:25:58,289
Adam K:
transfer.

808
00:25:58,289 --> 00:25:59,549
Adam K:
Now it's like, well, Google made

809
00:25:59,549 --> 00:26:03,049
Adam K:
a model that can just swap it

810
00:26:03,049 --> 00:26:04,890
Adam K:
out for you and it's more

811
00:26:04,890 --> 00:26:06,049
Adam K:
perfect than anything you could

812
00:26:06,049 --> 00:26:07,369
Adam K:
ever do.

813
00:26:07,369 --> 00:26:08,970
Adam K:
Uh, with all the after effects

814
00:26:08,970 --> 00:26:10,410
Adam K:
classes you could take in the

815
00:26:10,410 --> 00:26:11,049
Adam K:
world.

816
00:26:11,434 --> 00:26:12,315
Aaron:
Yeah.

817
00:26:11,609 --> 00:26:12,369
Adam K:
So it

818
00:26:12,115 --> 00:26:12,714
Aaron:
Well,

819
00:26:12,170 --> 00:26:13,690
Adam K:
really makes you feel like shit.

820
00:26:13,515 --> 00:26:14,275
Aaron:
yeah.

821
00:26:15,355 --> 00:26:16,355
Aaron:
That's good.

822
00:26:16,355 --> 00:26:17,994
Aaron:
I think maybe there is some

823
00:26:17,994 --> 00:26:21,154
Aaron:
validity to being a, an Indian

824
00:26:21,154 --> 00:26:23,154
Aaron:
robot operator.

825
00:26:23,154 --> 00:26:25,434
Aaron:
And maybe ethically it's not
bad.

826
00:26:25,434 --> 00:26:27,464
Aaron:
What if it if it's giving jobs

827
00:26:27,464 --> 00:26:30,025
Aaron:
to people who normally wouldn't

828
00:26:30,025 --> 00:26:31,704
Aaron:
have jobs, provided they have an

829
00:26:31,704 --> 00:26:32,704
Aaron:
internet connection and

830
00:26:32,704 --> 00:26:34,305
Aaron:
electricity, which they don't

831
00:26:34,305 --> 00:26:34,865
Aaron:
always have.

832
00:26:34,865 --> 00:26:37,505
Aaron:
But, um, like I'm thinking

833
00:26:37,505 --> 00:26:39,605
Aaron:
about, so I have friends who do

834
00:26:39,605 --> 00:26:41,545
Aaron:
therapy and they get the cheap

835
00:26:41,545 --> 00:26:43,585
Aaron:
therapy that it's, uh, it's

836
00:26:43,585 --> 00:26:46,724
Aaron:
mostly Indian therapists that,

837
00:26:46,724 --> 00:26:48,305
Aaron:
uh, you know, so they have to

838
00:26:48,305 --> 00:26:49,545
Aaron:
have their therapy sessions at

839
00:26:49,545 --> 00:26:50,825
Aaron:
like nine p m at night and

840
00:26:50,825 --> 00:26:51,105
Aaron:
stuff.

841
00:26:51,105 --> 00:26:56,565
Aaron:
But like, but, uh, it's giving
all these jobs to, to people,

842
00:26:56,565 --> 00:27:01,505
Aaron:
you know, it's a great, uh,
there's equitable, uh, equitable

843
00:27:01,505 --> 00:27:06,025
Aaron:
jobs for people, uh, that
weren't there before.

844
00:27:06,025 --> 00:27:09,265
Aaron:
And if that also applies to

845
00:27:09,265 --> 00:27:11,964
Aaron:
slave robots that, you know,

846
00:27:11,964 --> 00:27:14,005
Aaron:
wander around the house and

847
00:27:14,005 --> 00:27:15,845
Aaron:
really there's getting Intel on

848
00:27:15,845 --> 00:27:15,984
Aaron:
you.

849
00:27:15,984 --> 00:27:18,585
Aaron:
But if they, like, do the dishes
and all that stuff and it opens

850
00:27:18,585 --> 00:27:21,464
Aaron:
up jobs and who cares?

851
00:27:21,319 --> 00:27:21,920
Adam K:
Is your thought.

852
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,519
Adam K:
If you start thinking and

853
00:27:23,519 --> 00:27:24,819
Adam K:
talking like a billionaire, that

854
00:27:24,819 --> 00:27:26,099
Adam K:
they will accept you as their

855
00:27:26,099 --> 00:27:26,660
Adam K:
own.

856
00:27:27,204 --> 00:27:28,765
Aaron:
Uh, well, one of the things I

857
00:27:28,765 --> 00:27:29,765
Aaron:
learned from this Indian

858
00:27:29,765 --> 00:27:31,944
Aaron:
therapist is that you need to

859
00:27:31,944 --> 00:27:33,644
Aaron:
manifest.

860
00:27:33,644 --> 00:27:38,005
Aaron:
And so really, and she, she
didn't realize that manifesting

861
00:27:38,005 --> 00:27:42,005
Aaron:
that I turn it into a thing that
would trap her people forever.

862
00:27:42,005 --> 00:27:45,765
Aaron:
And it's weird, like, you know,
that's the twist in the story.

863
00:27:45,765 --> 00:27:49,505
Aaron:
So I'm manifesting having robots

864
00:27:49,505 --> 00:27:52,845
Aaron:
that are powered by unemployed

865
00:27:52,845 --> 00:27:54,484
Aaron:
Indian therapists.

866
00:27:56,964 --> 00:27:57,924
Aaron:
Yeah.

867
00:27:57,924 --> 00:27:58,805
Aaron:
I'm just sorry.

868
00:27:58,805 --> 00:28:01,444
Aaron:
I'm I'm digging through these
Seinfeld clips still.

869
00:28:02,420 --> 00:28:03,619
Adam K:
You see the one where he's.

870
00:28:03,619 --> 00:28:04,579
Adam K:
He swole.

871
00:28:04,579 --> 00:28:05,619
Adam K:
They're all swole.

872
00:28:05,765 --> 00:28:06,525
Aaron:
Yeah.

873
00:28:06,940 --> 00:28:10,059
Adam K:
And I it got a laugh out of me
just because the joke was Jerry

874
00:28:10,059 --> 00:28:13,640
Adam K:
Seinfeld, I think Elaine says,
like I ripped the phone book

875
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,700
Adam K:
apart this morning.

876
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:17,059
Adam K:
Jerry goes, how'd you find a
phone book?

877
00:28:17,059 --> 00:28:18,220
Adam K:
I was like, that.

878
00:28:18,220 --> 00:28:18,700
Adam K:
Got

879
00:28:18,404 --> 00:28:18,924
Aaron:
Yeah.

880
00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:19,579
Adam K:
a chuckle out of me

881
00:28:19,365 --> 00:28:19,785
Aaron:
That

882
00:28:19,380 --> 00:28:20,099
Adam K:
that

883
00:28:19,585 --> 00:28:20,365
Aaron:
minutia.

884
00:28:20,365 --> 00:28:21,045
Aaron:
Yeah.

885
00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:21,900
Adam K:
I like.

886
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:22,460
Adam K:
It threw me off.

887
00:28:22,460 --> 00:28:27,930
Adam K:
I was like, shit, I just laughed
at this completely fake thing.

888
00:28:27,930 --> 00:28:28,569
Adam K:
Well, I don't know.

889
00:28:28,569 --> 00:28:29,930
Adam K:
I get sent stuff all the time

890
00:28:29,930 --> 00:28:32,809
Adam K:
where it's very clearly fake and

891
00:28:32,809 --> 00:28:35,349
Adam K:
staged and I that's hard for me

892
00:28:35,349 --> 00:28:36,849
Adam K:
to enjoy.

893
00:28:36,849 --> 00:28:42,730
Adam K:
Like someone's like, uh, look at
this prank I played on my son

894
00:28:42,730 --> 00:28:46,130
Adam K:
and it's someone watching, you
know, the film three hundred and

895
00:28:46,130 --> 00:28:48,769
Adam K:
it's, it's clearly staged.

896
00:28:48,769 --> 00:28:50,769
Adam K:
And I'm just like, well, that
takes me out of it.

897
00:28:50,769 --> 00:28:56,009
Adam K:
But for whatever reason, that
Seinfeld Swoll Seinfeld thing

898
00:28:56,009 --> 00:28:59,450
Adam K:
got a laugh out of me, maybe
because it didn't feel staged.

899
00:28:59,194 --> 00:29:00,595
Aaron:
Maybe ultimately, because it's

900
00:29:00,595 --> 00:29:03,595
Aaron:
such a simple world that we're

901
00:29:03,595 --> 00:29:06,355
Aaron:
so familiar with that it's just

902
00:29:06,355 --> 00:29:06,795
Aaron:
easier.

903
00:29:06,795 --> 00:29:10,394
Aaron:
Like there's nothing there's no
backstory really.

904
00:29:10,394 --> 00:29:13,075
Aaron:
There's no like anything
complicated.

905
00:29:13,075 --> 00:29:14,755
Aaron:
It's ripe in its, in its

906
00:29:14,755 --> 00:29:17,674
Aaron:
simplicity for, you know, you

907
00:29:17,674 --> 00:29:18,115
Aaron:
just

908
00:29:17,690 --> 00:29:18,329
Adam K:
Yeah.

909
00:29:17,914 --> 00:29:20,355
Aaron:
throw any kind of situation in
there.

910
00:29:21,170 --> 00:29:27,390
Adam K:
Yeah, I, I. It's every time I
know we, we send these clips

911
00:29:27,390 --> 00:29:30,750
Adam K:
back and forth and it's like, I
feel like you and I have got a

912
00:29:30,750 --> 00:29:34,630
Adam K:
pretty good read on things
typically, but more and more

913
00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:36,789
Adam K:
it's been popping up where
you're like, is this real?

914
00:29:36,789 --> 00:29:37,829
Adam K:
I don't know.

915
00:29:37,734 --> 00:29:38,535
Aaron:
I know.

916
00:29:38,509 --> 00:29:41,750
Adam K:
Yeah. Um, you so you know, that

917
00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:43,109
Adam K:
that shot I used in my video of

918
00:29:43,109 --> 00:29:44,230
Adam K:
Mitch McConnell licking his

919
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:45,289
Adam K:
lips,

920
00:29:44,894 --> 00:29:45,654
Aaron:
Yeah.

921
00:29:45,089 --> 00:29:48,630
Adam K:
that was entirely by hand.

922
00:29:49,829 --> 00:29:51,230
Adam K:
No AI was used in that.

923
00:29:51,230 --> 00:29:51,549
Adam K:
I

924
00:29:51,255 --> 00:29:51,734
Aaron:
See

925
00:29:51,349 --> 00:29:52,069
Adam K:
was very.

926
00:29:51,535 --> 00:29:52,174
Aaron:
who says.

927
00:29:52,174 --> 00:29:52,934
Aaron:
Who says that?

928
00:29:52,934 --> 00:29:55,535
Aaron:
They're still not crass people
in the world.

929
00:29:55,630 --> 00:29:56,750
Adam K:
Uh, it was one of those things

930
00:29:56,750 --> 00:29:58,670
Adam K:
where it was simpler because for

931
00:29:58,670 --> 00:30:01,430
Adam K:
whatever reason, on envato, they

932
00:30:01,430 --> 00:30:04,269
Adam K:
had these keyed out lips licking

933
00:30:04,269 --> 00:30:05,710
Adam K:
themselves.

934
00:30:05,710 --> 00:30:10,470
Adam K:
And Adobe makes it pretty easy
to match color on.

935
00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:14,470
Adam K:
You know, someone's like blue
lower face, but.

936
00:30:14,055 --> 00:30:14,934
Aaron:
Very blue.

937
00:30:14,934 --> 00:30:16,734
Aaron:
Purple outlined lips.

938
00:30:16,670 --> 00:30:19,230
Adam K:
Yeah. Turtle face.

939
00:30:19,230 --> 00:30:23,299
Adam K:
Um, I have been seeing the
videos of him, of using minimax

940
00:30:23,299 --> 00:30:26,980
Adam K:
of their popping up, of Mitch
McConnell be like, I'm fine.

941
00:30:26,980 --> 00:30:28,900
Adam K:
And then he just stares into the
camera.

942
00:30:30,099 --> 00:30:32,900
Adam K:
Uh, but again, it's all just
disinformation and we're all

943
00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:33,940
Adam K:
going to be fooled by it.

944
00:30:33,940 --> 00:30:36,059
Adam K:
And it doesn't matter because

945
00:30:36,059 --> 00:30:36,900
Adam K:
we'll just keep scrolling

946
00:30:36,900 --> 00:30:37,779
Adam K:
through TikTok.

947
00:30:37,779 --> 00:30:41,220
Adam K:
I'm, I'm not trying to be
negative here.

948
00:30:41,220 --> 00:30:42,819
Adam K:
Please don't take that.

949
00:30:42,819 --> 00:30:44,940
Adam K:
Take that away from this
conversation.

950
00:30:46,059 --> 00:30:48,579
Adam K:
I'm talking to my Indian AI
therapist.

951
00:30:50,365 --> 00:30:51,684
Aaron:
This lady is super nice.

952
00:30:51,684 --> 00:30:53,085
Aaron:
I mean, she's not my therapist,

953
00:30:53,085 --> 00:30:54,984
Aaron:
but I've been like, I've, I, uh,

954
00:30:54,984 --> 00:30:58,765
Aaron:
I sat in one time to, you know,

955
00:30:58,765 --> 00:31:01,204
Aaron:
mostly just to complain, but,

956
00:31:01,204 --> 00:31:01,984
Aaron:
uh,

957
00:31:01,500 --> 00:31:02,019
Adam K:
The.

958
00:31:01,785 --> 00:31:04,765
Aaron:
from the few seconds I was
there, it was nice.

959
00:31:04,819 --> 00:31:06,400
Adam K:
The thing that I always I read,

960
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,299
Adam K:
you know, you see like Reddit

961
00:31:07,299 --> 00:31:08,980
Adam K:
comments or people writing an

962
00:31:08,980 --> 00:31:10,480
Adam K:
article about how AI is like

963
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,940
Adam K:
sycophantic or whatever, how it

964
00:31:11,940 --> 00:31:12,980
Adam K:
just keeps telling you how good

965
00:31:12,980 --> 00:31:14,380
Adam K:
you are.

966
00:31:14,380 --> 00:31:15,579
Adam K:
I don't know how you are with

967
00:31:15,579 --> 00:31:16,539
Adam K:
that, but like, I hate that

968
00:31:16,539 --> 00:31:17,539
Adam K:
shit.

969
00:31:17,539 --> 00:31:20,000
Adam K:
Like if it, if it tries to like,
praise me?

970
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,200
Adam K:
I'm like, stop it or I don't
believe it.

971
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,500
Adam K:
So I don't think I've had that
effect where I'm like, this chat

972
00:31:26,500 --> 00:31:28,079
Adam K:
bots, my best friend.

973
00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:31,279
Adam K:
I've always seen it as just a
little, you know, worker bee.

974
00:31:31,464 --> 00:31:32,904
Aaron:
Really well.

975
00:31:32,904 --> 00:31:35,664
Aaron:
The problem is, is it was all
trained on Reddit.

976
00:31:35,664 --> 00:31:37,785
Aaron:
So you're that's what you're

977
00:31:37,785 --> 00:31:39,384
Aaron:
going to get forever is you're

978
00:31:39,384 --> 00:31:41,684
Aaron:
just going to get like flimsy,

979
00:31:41,684 --> 00:31:44,464
Aaron:
weak gaslighting, gaslighting,

980
00:31:44,464 --> 00:31:48,005
Aaron:
but also subservient, uh, with

981
00:31:48,005 --> 00:31:49,424
Aaron:
like a little layer of

982
00:31:49,424 --> 00:31:51,204
Aaron:
aggression underneath

983
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:51,599
Adam K:
Yeah.

984
00:31:51,005 --> 00:31:52,865
Aaron:
because it was all trained on
Reddit.

985
00:31:52,865 --> 00:31:54,384
Aaron:
That's why I was thinking today.

986
00:31:54,384 --> 00:32:00,525
Aaron:
It almost, it does make sense
why someone like an Elon Musk or

987
00:32:00,525 --> 00:32:04,384
Aaron:
whoever wants to train like a
grok or something, because

988
00:32:04,384 --> 00:32:06,384
Aaron:
you're like, okay, I get it.

989
00:32:06,384 --> 00:32:13,704
Aaron:
He's trying to create a because
if if all AI is just a Redditor,

990
00:32:13,704 --> 00:32:15,825
Aaron:
then we're in serious trouble.

991
00:32:15,825 --> 00:32:19,444
Aaron:
Not because like of the the
progressiveness or liberalness.

992
00:32:19,444 --> 00:32:20,404
Aaron:
That's all fine.

993
00:32:20,404 --> 00:32:21,845
Aaron:
It's just Redditors are

994
00:32:21,845 --> 00:32:25,184
Aaron:
insufferable, terrible people

995
00:32:25,184 --> 00:32:25,724
Aaron:
and

996
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:26,029
Adam K:
Yeah.

997
00:32:25,525 --> 00:32:27,285
Aaron:
you need some balance for that.

998
00:32:27,285 --> 00:32:29,204
Aaron:
But the balance, unfortunately,

999
00:32:29,204 --> 00:32:32,644
Aaron:
are funny, quick witted, racist

1000
00:32:32,644 --> 00:32:33,684
Aaron:
trolls.

1001
00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:36,549
Adam K:
I was going to say Twitter users
or

1002
00:32:36,244 --> 00:32:36,845
Aaron:
Yeah.

1003
00:32:36,349 --> 00:32:38,309
Adam K:
fortune users.

1004
00:32:38,309 --> 00:32:39,390
Adam K:
I yeah, I don't know.

1005
00:32:39,390 --> 00:32:41,269
Adam K:
I always just go back to the,

1006
00:32:41,269 --> 00:32:43,049
Adam K:
the part where I'm like, I, I

1007
00:32:43,049 --> 00:32:44,509
Adam K:
think less human interaction

1008
00:32:44,509 --> 00:32:47,349
Adam K:
might be better for a lot of us

1009
00:32:47,349 --> 00:32:48,150
Adam K:
maybe.

1010
00:32:47,484 --> 00:32:49,125
Aaron:
No, it's already going down.

1011
00:32:49,125 --> 00:32:50,605
Aaron:
I think that's how we got here.

1012
00:32:50,549 --> 00:32:51,509
Adam K:
Oh yeah.

1013
00:32:51,509 --> 00:32:54,390
Adam K:
Well, when it's all artificial
though, when you're, you're

1014
00:32:54,390 --> 00:32:57,430
Adam K:
having arguments with a stranger
halfway across the world who may

1015
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:59,269
Adam K:
or may not be real.

1016
00:32:59,269 --> 00:33:02,390
Adam K:
Uh, I feel like that does
something to the psyche.

1017
00:33:02,390 --> 00:33:05,670
Adam K:
It you lose nuance and then you

1018
00:33:05,670 --> 00:33:07,589
Adam K:
just you have people being

1019
00:33:07,589 --> 00:33:08,549
Adam K:
weirdos.

1020
00:33:09,605 --> 00:33:10,325
Aaron:
We need more.

1021
00:33:10,325 --> 00:33:12,884
Aaron:
Third spaces is what we need.

1022
00:33:12,910 --> 00:33:13,390
Adam K:
What's

1023
00:33:13,085 --> 00:33:13,525
Aaron:
But

1024
00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:13,750
Adam K:
a third

1025
00:33:13,325 --> 00:33:14,505
Aaron:
unfortunately,

1026
00:33:13,549 --> 00:33:14,230
Adam K:
space?

1027
00:33:14,305 --> 00:33:17,555
Aaron:
third space is where it's like a
place that you can hang out and

1028
00:33:17,555 --> 00:33:21,394
Aaron:
either spend no money or not
very much money.

1029
00:33:21,394 --> 00:33:24,595
Aaron:
A bowling alley used to be kind
of like that for bowling alleys.

1030
00:33:24,595 --> 00:33:28,575
Aaron:
Got expensive or like
technically a shopping mall or,

1031
00:33:28,575 --> 00:33:32,734
Aaron:
you know, uh, a public park
would be it, but, you know, like

1032
00:33:32,734 --> 00:33:34,755
Aaron:
indoor spaces as well.

1033
00:33:34,755 --> 00:33:39,815
Aaron:
And the disappearance of those
is one theory of leading to like

1034
00:33:39,815 --> 00:33:43,795
Aaron:
the, the isolationism that
people are experiencing now and

1035
00:33:43,170 --> 00:33:43,769
Adam K:
MM.

1036
00:33:43,595 --> 00:33:45,355
Aaron:
the lack of community.

1037
00:33:45,355 --> 00:33:48,815
Aaron:
But, uh, really in America, the
more third spaces that you

1038
00:33:48,815 --> 00:33:50,954
Aaron:
create, the more mass shootings.

1039
00:33:50,954 --> 00:33:51,694
Aaron:
But,

1040
00:33:51,930 --> 00:33:52,329
Adam K:
MM.

1041
00:33:52,494 --> 00:33:53,674
Aaron:
you know, whatever.

1042
00:33:55,049 --> 00:33:56,289
Adam K:
I'm getting buzz on your end.

1043
00:33:56,289 --> 00:33:56,690
Adam K:
Are you?

1044
00:33:56,690 --> 00:33:58,890
Adam K:
Is your phone next to your
microphone?

1045
00:33:59,434 --> 00:34:00,555
Aaron:
You still hear it.

1046
00:34:00,849 --> 00:34:03,170
Adam K:
It comes in now usually when
you're talking.

1047
00:34:03,875 --> 00:34:04,394
Aaron:
I'm just.

1048
00:34:04,394 --> 00:34:05,835
Aaron:
I'm buzzing.

1049
00:34:05,835 --> 00:34:06,394
Aaron:
Oh.

1050
00:34:05,970 --> 00:34:07,769
Adam K:
Yeah. It's fine.

1051
00:34:07,769 --> 00:34:09,250
Adam K:
Maybe if you hung out in your

1052
00:34:09,250 --> 00:34:12,630
Adam K:
third space more often, but also

1053
00:34:12,630 --> 00:34:13,650
Adam K:
like.

1054
00:34:13,650 --> 00:34:17,320
Adam K:
So your first place and your
second place is your house.

1055
00:34:18,135 --> 00:34:21,094
Aaron:
No. My second place is the
university.

1056
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:23,239
Adam K:
All right.

1057
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:23,920
Adam K:
That's.

1058
00:34:23,414 --> 00:34:25,934
Aaron:
My third place is the university
Bar.

1059
00:34:30,574 --> 00:34:30,815
Aaron:
That.

1060
00:34:30,815 --> 00:34:32,255
Aaron:
And that's only because the beer
is cheap.

1061
00:34:32,255 --> 00:34:35,655
Aaron:
It's not like I'm hanging out
there like, hey, what are you

1062
00:34:35,655 --> 00:34:36,735
Aaron:
what are you studying?

1063
00:34:36,735 --> 00:34:38,454
Aaron:
And they're like, get away, old
man.

1064
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,380
Adam K:
You know, back in my day, books
cost eighty dollars instead of

1065
00:34:44,380 --> 00:34:45,719
Adam K:
one hundred and twenty.

1066
00:34:45,894 --> 00:34:48,574
Aaron:
Back in my day, books had nudies
in them.

1067
00:34:50,054 --> 00:34:51,815
Aaron:
We just read the Nudies.

1068
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,559
Adam K:
Well, for me, then my first and
second place.

1069
00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:57,239
Adam K:
And I guess sometimes my third
place is my house.

1070
00:34:58,375 --> 00:34:59,894
Aaron:
Yeah. No. That's true.

1071
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,840
Adam K:
Like, my first place is the
right side of my desk, which is

1072
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,079
Adam K:
where I work all day.

1073
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:06,480
Adam K:
And then my second place is the
left side of my desk where I

1074
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,320
Adam K:
play video games.

1075
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:13,480
Adam K:
And then my third place is
probably the couch where I watch

1076
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,300
Adam K:
Seinfeld I videos.

1077
00:35:17,045 --> 00:35:17,764
Aaron:
That reminds me.

1078
00:35:17,764 --> 00:35:19,844
Aaron:
I need to, uh.

1079
00:35:19,844 --> 00:35:23,885
Aaron:
I need to go do some work, uh,
right

1080
00:35:23,340 --> 00:35:24,039
Adam K:
Real

1081
00:35:23,684 --> 00:35:24,625
Aaron:
now,

1082
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,059
Adam K:
or fake work?

1083
00:35:25,425 --> 00:35:29,344
Aaron:
uh, some some work that's, uh,

1084
00:35:29,344 --> 00:35:31,724
Aaron:
about nothing is what I need to

1085
00:35:31,724 --> 00:35:32,244
Aaron:
do.

1086
00:35:32,260 --> 00:35:32,820
Adam K:
Well, let

1087
00:35:32,525 --> 00:35:32,885
Aaron:
I

1088
00:35:32,619 --> 00:35:33,039
Adam K:
me

1089
00:35:32,684 --> 00:35:33,125
Aaron:
need.

1090
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,500
Adam K:
I want to I wanted to get your
thoughts on this real question

1091
00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:36,219
Adam K:
because I was

1092
00:35:35,925 --> 00:35:36,644
Aaron:
Okay.

1093
00:35:36,019 --> 00:35:40,280
Adam K:
sending you some of those AI
like animated scene things and

1094
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:46,179
Adam K:
like they're all parts from, you
know, a book we wrote.

1095
00:35:46,085 --> 00:35:46,925
Aaron:
Yeah.

1096
00:35:47,860 --> 00:35:53,619
Adam K:
If we were able to hire an
artist, a real life artist and

1097
00:35:53,619 --> 00:35:55,579
Adam K:
ensure they're not using AI.

1098
00:35:55,579 --> 00:36:01,559
Adam K:
Um, and we can have them, we
commission them to draw scenes

1099
00:36:01,559 --> 00:36:03,139
Adam K:
from, from the book.

1100
00:36:03,085 --> 00:36:03,804
Aaron:
Yeah.

1101
00:36:03,659 --> 00:36:06,760
Adam K:
And then I go and then again,

1102
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:07,820
Adam K:
pay an original artist to do

1103
00:36:07,820 --> 00:36:08,380
Adam K:
this stuff.

1104
00:36:08,380 --> 00:36:09,619
Adam K:
And then I feed those images

1105
00:36:09,619 --> 00:36:11,199
Adam K:
into this animator thing to make

1106
00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:12,739
Adam K:
like a book trailer that we just

1107
00:36:12,739 --> 00:36:13,969
Adam K:
put on the Amazon page or the

1108
00:36:13,969 --> 00:36:14,690
Adam K:
website.

1109
00:36:14,690 --> 00:36:17,889
Adam K:
Is that ethical or is that is
there a problem there?

1110
00:36:17,945 --> 00:36:20,744
Aaron:
I think it's okay if you.

1111
00:36:20,744 --> 00:36:25,085
Aaron:
Because essentially what you're
asking for are storyboards and

1112
00:36:24,130 --> 00:36:24,809
Adam K:
Mhm.

1113
00:36:24,885 --> 00:36:27,224
Aaron:
you're saying if you are just

1114
00:36:27,224 --> 00:36:29,485
Aaron:
completely transparent with it,

1115
00:36:29,485 --> 00:36:31,144
Aaron:
then you're going to get plenty

1116
00:36:31,144 --> 00:36:33,065
Aaron:
of people who are like, no, fuck

1117
00:36:33,065 --> 00:36:33,505
Aaron:
this.

1118
00:36:33,505 --> 00:36:35,144
Aaron:
Like I, you know, pay me to
animate.

1119
00:36:35,144 --> 00:36:37,704
Aaron:
But if you're like, look, I
can't pay you to animate, but I

1120
00:36:37,704 --> 00:36:40,425
Aaron:
can pay you for the
storyboarding for your original

1121
00:36:40,425 --> 00:36:42,784
Aaron:
art credit you as the artist.

1122
00:36:42,784 --> 00:36:45,965
Aaron:
Well, because you know, some
people who are, you know,

1123
00:36:45,965 --> 00:36:49,605
Aaron:
artists that draw like that,
they're not animators, you know,

1124
00:36:49,605 --> 00:36:52,304
Aaron:
they don't they don't do that.

1125
00:36:52,304 --> 00:36:52,784
Aaron:
Or

1126
00:36:52,449 --> 00:36:53,090
Adam K:
Yeah.

1127
00:36:52,585 --> 00:36:55,144
Aaron:
they would have to do it by
hand.

1128
00:36:55,144 --> 00:36:57,704
Aaron:
Old school wise, which you
wouldn't do anyway.

1129
00:36:57,704 --> 00:37:01,224
Aaron:
So I think ultimately you just
have to be transparent.

1130
00:37:01,224 --> 00:37:06,565
Aaron:
And then if you do create a
trailer from it, then you

1131
00:37:06,565 --> 00:37:10,625
Aaron:
credit, you know, the person
say, this is the person who made

1132
00:37:10,625 --> 00:37:14,315
Aaron:
these designs and, you know,
essentially made this trailer

1133
00:37:14,315 --> 00:37:15,655
Aaron:
pay them what you can.

1134
00:37:15,655 --> 00:37:18,815
Aaron:
And then I don't know what else
there is, you know, to.

1135
00:37:18,789 --> 00:37:22,030
Adam K:
Yeah, well, just my, my thought

1136
00:37:22,030 --> 00:37:23,449
Adam K:
is like, yeah, I cannot pay an

1137
00:37:23,449 --> 00:37:23,949
Adam K:
animator.

1138
00:37:23,949 --> 00:37:25,429
Adam K:
And animation is very expensive.

1139
00:37:25,429 --> 00:37:27,829
Adam K:
Traditional animation,
especially if I could, if I had

1140
00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:33,130
Adam K:
unlimited funds, it's like I
would, I would hire the studio

1141
00:37:33,130 --> 00:37:37,190
Adam K:
that made Mars Express, which is
a great movie actually.

1142
00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:37,989
Adam K:
You should check it out.

1143
00:37:37,989 --> 00:37:41,309
Adam K:
It's it like I, I wish they
could make a rook film.

1144
00:37:41,309 --> 00:37:43,510
Adam K:
That would be my dream and it
would just be for me.

1145
00:37:43,510 --> 00:37:46,630
Adam K:
I don't care about box office
returns or any of that bullshit.

1146
00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:50,510
Adam K:
It's just like, man, this is
like their vision of the world

1147
00:37:50,510 --> 00:37:52,829
Adam K:
is like how I'm like, oh, that's
how I saw the book.

1148
00:37:52,829 --> 00:37:53,829
Adam K:
That's so great.

1149
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:56,030
Adam K:
I would love to see this thing
come to life.

1150
00:37:56,030 --> 00:37:57,309
Adam K:
Um, at the same time too.

1151
00:37:57,309 --> 00:37:59,949
Adam K:
Like I totally get the ethical

1152
00:37:59,949 --> 00:38:01,929
Adam K:
dilemma of using any sort of

1153
00:38:01,929 --> 00:38:03,949
Adam K:
artificial intelligence in

1154
00:38:03,949 --> 00:38:06,030
Adam K:
creating something that's

1155
00:38:06,030 --> 00:38:07,070
Adam K:
artistic.

1156
00:38:07,070 --> 00:38:10,699
Adam K:
At the same time, the story was
completely Original.

1157
00:38:10,699 --> 00:38:12,239
Adam K:
I don't think ChatGPT was even

1158
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,739
Adam K:
a. Maybe it was an early

1159
00:38:13,739 --> 00:38:14,059
Adam K:
version.

1160
00:38:14,059 --> 00:38:15,460
Adam K:
We didn't know about it.

1161
00:38:15,460 --> 00:38:18,780
Adam K:
Everything we wrote about AI was
stuff we were reading in, you

1162
00:38:18,780 --> 00:38:21,139
Adam K:
know, science journals.

1163
00:38:21,139 --> 00:38:23,179
Adam K:
Um, it wasn't never in my

1164
00:38:23,179 --> 00:38:25,340
Adam K:
wildest dreams did I think it

1165
00:38:25,340 --> 00:38:26,900
Adam K:
was going to replace any sort of

1166
00:38:26,900 --> 00:38:28,780
Adam K:
creative that

1167
00:38:28,235 --> 00:38:28,954
Aaron:
Yeah.

1168
00:38:28,579 --> 00:38:31,059
Adam K:
never seemed realistic.

1169
00:38:31,059 --> 00:38:34,280
Adam K:
And now we're here and it's
like, oh, well, I'm glad we got

1170
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:39,179
Adam K:
the book in before and there
could be any, like, you know,

1171
00:38:39,179 --> 00:38:43,780
Adam K:
anything accusing us of just
having a robot write the book?

1172
00:38:43,780 --> 00:38:47,420
Adam K:
Like, no, we, we hired our cheap
labor on Fiverr like everyone

1173
00:38:47,420 --> 00:38:49,599
Adam K:
else, at least

1174
00:38:49,155 --> 00:38:49,755
Aaron:
I guess

1175
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:49,980
Adam K:
the.

1176
00:38:49,554 --> 00:38:50,954
Aaron:
everything was hired for that.

1177
00:38:50,954 --> 00:38:54,675
Aaron:
I mean, the illustrations, the
editor, the everything.

1178
00:38:54,539 --> 00:38:58,059
Adam K:
Well, like you found Caleb on
Reddit.

1179
00:38:58,059 --> 00:38:59,000
Adam K:
He had a

1180
00:38:58,554 --> 00:38:59,235
Aaron:
Yeah.

1181
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,260
Adam K:
post and you're like, this guy's
awesome.

1182
00:39:00,260 --> 00:39:01,300
Adam K:
Should we reach out to him?

1183
00:39:01,300 --> 00:39:01,619
Adam K:
Yeah.

1184
00:39:01,619 --> 00:39:02,099
Adam K:
Cool.

1185
00:39:02,099 --> 00:39:02,579
Adam K:
And

1186
00:39:02,275 --> 00:39:02,815
Aaron:
No,

1187
00:39:02,380 --> 00:39:03,019
Adam K:
then.

1188
00:39:02,614 --> 00:39:05,014
Aaron:
I think I said something like,
it'd be cool if we could have

1189
00:39:05,014 --> 00:39:06,835
Aaron:
art like this for the thing.

1190
00:39:06,835 --> 00:39:07,355
Aaron:
And then

1191
00:39:07,099 --> 00:39:07,900
Adam K:
Yeah.

1192
00:39:07,155 --> 00:39:09,375
Aaron:
I think you were like, why don't
you just reach out?

1193
00:39:09,375 --> 00:39:11,655
Aaron:
And I was like, yeah, why

1194
00:39:11,159 --> 00:39:11,880
Adam K:
Yeah.

1195
00:39:11,454 --> 00:39:12,255
Aaron:
don't I?

1196
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,039
Adam K:
No, I think your exact words
were it would be so cool if

1197
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:19,079
Adam K:
there was an algorithm that can
look at his art style, copy it,

1198
00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:19,639
Adam K:
and then we

1199
00:39:19,335 --> 00:39:20,014
Aaron:
Yeah.

1200
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,199
Adam K:
just type in the words that we
want.

1201
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:23,960
Adam K:
And then also, you can like,
shit on his family.

1202
00:39:24,295 --> 00:39:26,815
Aaron:
That does sound more like
something I said.

1203
00:39:26,639 --> 00:39:28,679
Adam K:
Yeah. Um, and then Rebecca was

1204
00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:30,960
Adam K:
someone you knew that was like a

1205
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,360
Adam K:
publishing friend of yours who

1206
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,119
Adam K:
said, I want nothing to do with

1207
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:35,199
Adam K:
your book.

1208
00:39:35,199 --> 00:39:37,519
Adam K:
Um, but here's an editor who can
help you.

1209
00:39:37,574 --> 00:39:40,974
Aaron:
Yeah, actually, I think that is
true too.

1210
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:45,920
Adam K:
The only person I think we hired
was squab from

1211
00:39:45,655 --> 00:39:46,074
Aaron:
Oh,

1212
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:46,480
Adam K:
Fiverr.

1213
00:39:45,875 --> 00:39:46,534
Aaron:
yes.

1214
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:49,559
Adam K:
Yeah, he tried putting his name
in the credits.

1215
00:39:51,735 --> 00:39:54,215
Aaron:
Executive producer squab.

1216
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,320
Adam K:
I remember he said he's like,
here it is.

1217
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,320
Adam K:
Everything's perfect.

1218
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,559
Adam K:
Very first thing.

1219
00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:02,840
Adam K:
Edited by squab and squab.

1220
00:40:02,054 --> 00:40:04,335
Aaron:
It's like bigger than the the
the.

1221
00:40:04,335 --> 00:40:05,454
Aaron:
Written by.

1222
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,679
Adam K:
Mhm. Yeah. And then it had a
weird length.

1223
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:08,949
Adam K:
I went to a crypto wallet.

1224
00:40:08,949 --> 00:40:10,070
Adam K:
It was weird.

1225
00:40:10,070 --> 00:40:11,090
Adam K:
But

1226
00:40:10,164 --> 00:40:10,804
Aaron:
Yeah.

1227
00:40:10,889 --> 00:40:14,030
Adam K:
again, this is this is what
happens when you you hire

1228
00:40:14,030 --> 00:40:15,510
Adam K:
strangers on the internet.

1229
00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:16,309
Adam K:
So.

1230
00:40:15,724 --> 00:40:19,284
Aaron:
I think I remember saying, I
appreciate his audacity.

1231
00:40:21,804 --> 00:40:22,204
Aaron:
And

1232
00:40:21,909 --> 00:40:22,309
Adam K:
I

1233
00:40:22,005 --> 00:40:22,324
Aaron:
I

1234
00:40:22,110 --> 00:40:23,150
Adam K:
just,

1235
00:40:22,125 --> 00:40:23,445
Aaron:
did, and I still do.

1236
00:40:22,949 --> 00:40:25,070
Adam K:
I just, I, it would be funny for

1237
00:40:25,070 --> 00:40:27,210
Adam K:
anyone to be reading the book

1238
00:40:27,210 --> 00:40:28,110
Adam K:
like, man, this thing is

1239
00:40:28,110 --> 00:40:30,030
Adam K:
collated perfectly.

1240
00:40:30,030 --> 00:40:32,429
Adam K:
Who did this squab?

1241
00:40:32,429 --> 00:40:33,750
Adam K:
I'm going to look this man up.

1242
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:34,469
Adam K:
Delete.

1243
00:40:35,085 --> 00:40:36,844
Aaron:
Launches Squabs career.

1244
00:40:37,070 --> 00:40:41,190
Adam K:
I mean, he he's probably doing
better than either one of us.

1245
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:42,349
Adam K:
That's my guess.

1246
00:40:42,284 --> 00:40:43,005
Aaron:
Mhm.

1247
00:40:42,949 --> 00:40:46,550
Adam K:
So anywho, uh, so I'm, I'm not

1248
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:47,710
Adam K:
going to write anything for the

1249
00:40:47,710 --> 00:40:48,869
Adam K:
blog this week since I put up

1250
00:40:48,869 --> 00:40:49,710
Adam K:
the video.

1251
00:40:49,925 --> 00:40:50,684
Aaron:
Yeah.

1252
00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:55,389
Adam K:
Um, and then I'll make it live
on YouTube on Monday.

1253
00:40:55,764 --> 00:40:56,204
Aaron:
Yeah.

1254
00:40:55,869 --> 00:40:56,469
Adam K:
Um.

1255
00:40:56,045 --> 00:40:58,684
Aaron:
Because the YouTube, uh, is
dying.

1256
00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:59,789
Adam K:
Is

1257
00:40:59,485 --> 00:41:00,105
Aaron:
It's

1258
00:40:59,590 --> 00:41:00,110
Adam K:
it.

1259
00:40:59,905 --> 00:41:02,324
Aaron:
it's losing a thousand subs a
month.

1260
00:41:02,190 --> 00:41:03,190
Adam K:
That's fine.

1261
00:41:03,804 --> 00:41:05,724
Aaron:
I don't know if it is, but.

1262
00:41:05,869 --> 00:41:11,289
Adam K:
Look, if you want subs, you
gotta like enable comments and

1263
00:41:11,289 --> 00:41:15,329
Adam K:
interact with people and get
into the algorithm.

1264
00:41:15,329 --> 00:41:17,969
Adam K:
If that's what you want, you can
have it.

1265
00:41:17,969 --> 00:41:21,489
Adam K:
But that's going to kill my
drive to make anything.

1266
00:41:21,784 --> 00:41:25,465
Aaron:
No, I think that it's, uh,
videos just have to.

1267
00:41:25,465 --> 00:41:27,864
Aaron:
They they can't be unlisted.

1268
00:41:27,864 --> 00:41:29,264
Aaron:
That's the only that's the
thing.

1269
00:41:29,264 --> 00:41:29,945
Aaron:
It doesn't matter.

1270
00:41:29,945 --> 00:41:31,144
Aaron:
The comments thing doesn't
matter.

1271
00:41:31,144 --> 00:41:31,905
Aaron:
Whatever.

1272
00:41:31,409 --> 00:41:32,130
Adam K:
Why only

1273
00:41:31,744 --> 00:41:32,425
Aaron:
It just.

1274
00:41:31,929 --> 00:41:33,570
Adam K:
make them unlisted for a week?

1275
00:41:33,465 --> 00:41:34,385
Aaron:
Yeah, yeah.

1276
00:41:34,250 --> 00:41:34,889
Adam K:
Yeah.

1277
00:41:34,304 --> 00:41:38,864
Aaron:
And then the it needs some
shorts to get floating around.

1278
00:41:38,864 --> 00:41:39,505
Aaron:
So.

1279
00:41:39,010 --> 00:41:43,329
Adam K:
Yeah. I, well, I mean, I put up
that one of me playing Halo.

1280
00:41:43,329 --> 00:41:44,769
Adam K:
I don't know if you saw that.

1281
00:41:46,545 --> 00:41:48,465
Aaron:
The one playing Halo, the short.

1282
00:41:48,610 --> 00:41:51,769
Adam K:
I put up a short over the
weekend so I installed there's a

1283
00:41:51,769 --> 00:41:53,929
Adam K:
new I call it new Halo.

1284
00:41:53,929 --> 00:41:56,570
Adam K:
But they remade Halo again.

1285
00:41:56,585 --> 00:41:57,905
Aaron:
Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah

1286
00:41:57,690 --> 00:41:58,369
Adam K:
Yeah.

1287
00:41:57,704 --> 00:41:58,704
Aaron:
yeah yeah I

1288
00:41:58,329 --> 00:41:59,090
Adam K:
Yeah.

1289
00:41:58,505 --> 00:41:58,905
Aaron:
see.

1290
00:41:58,929 --> 00:42:01,329
Adam K:
I was playing around with it and
I was like, again, this is this

1291
00:42:01,329 --> 00:42:05,050
Adam K:
always happens it with like a
rushed video game.

1292
00:42:05,050 --> 00:42:07,800
Adam K:
You can just move characters by
walking into them.

1293
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,559
Adam K:
I was like, I wonder if I can

1294
00:42:09,559 --> 00:42:11,619
Adam K:
get this, this Captain Keys

1295
00:42:11,619 --> 00:42:12,599
Adam K:
character to the end of the

1296
00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:13,559
Adam K:
mission, and it was just getting

1297
00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:13,840
Adam K:
too long.

1298
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:14,920
Adam K:
So I pushed him into the fire.

1299
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,599
Adam K:
And then it's like it just
warped me back to the beginning

1300
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:17,920
Adam K:
of the game.

1301
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,000
Adam K:
It's like you've gone crazy.

1302
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,840
Adam K:
I'm like, this is broken.

1303
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,480
Adam K:
How did you not hire a game
tester for this?

1304
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,159
Adam K:
My God.

1305
00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:27,079
Adam K:
Or they did, and they just
didn't care.

1306
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:29,760
Adam K:
That's probably more likely what
it is.

1307
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:30,760
Adam K:
But

1308
00:42:30,135 --> 00:42:31,974
Aaron:
They had to ship it and they had
no time.

1309
00:42:31,559 --> 00:42:34,400
Adam K:
there is a game coming out.

1310
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,039
Adam K:
Uh, I believe it's called war
fantasy.

1311
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:38,920
Adam K:
There was a trailer for it,
remember?

1312
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,159
Adam K:
Because you and I were talking
about trying to pitch like a

1313
00:42:41,159 --> 00:42:43,840
Adam K:
Call of Duty game years ago.

1314
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,400
Adam K:
Um, and this one's pretty cool.

1315
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,760
Adam K:
I'll send it to you, but it's
called war fantasy.

1316
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,619
Adam K:
It's an ex Call of Duty
developer, and I, it's like

1317
00:42:52,619 --> 00:42:58,119
Adam K:
you're a kid playing a Call of
Duty game called War Fantasy.

1318
00:42:58,119 --> 00:43:02,119
Adam K:
And it's like merging with
reality.

1319
00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:04,070
Adam K:
So it's this, this sort of like

1320
00:43:04,070 --> 00:43:06,760
Adam K:
liminal backrooms type space

1321
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:07,860
Adam K:
thing.

1322
00:43:07,860 --> 00:43:10,659
Adam K:
Uh, but it's mixed with like the
Call of Duty aesthetic.

1323
00:43:10,659 --> 00:43:11,659
Adam K:
And I'm like, I love this.

1324
00:43:11,659 --> 00:43:12,739
Adam K:
This is great.

1325
00:43:12,739 --> 00:43:15,980
Adam K:
This is a great way to flip the
whole thing on its head.

1326
00:43:15,980 --> 00:43:19,980
Adam K:
Um, but that's like, that's what
needs to be made.

1327
00:43:19,980 --> 00:43:21,460
Adam K:
So that got me excited.

1328
00:43:21,355 --> 00:43:22,315
Aaron:
We'll send it.

1329
00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:24,619
Adam K:
I will, and then I want I sent
you that one game too.

1330
00:43:24,619 --> 00:43:25,860
Adam K:
You didn't respond.

1331
00:43:26,900 --> 00:43:28,460
Adam K:
I was like, I think you would
actually enjoy this one.

1332
00:43:28,460 --> 00:43:31,780
Adam K:
I forgot it was called do you

1333
00:43:31,554 --> 00:43:32,114
Aaron:
Uh.

1334
00:43:31,579 --> 00:43:32,059
Adam K:
remember?

1335
00:43:32,059 --> 00:43:33,539
Adam K:
Did you even look at it instead

1336
00:43:33,539 --> 00:43:35,820
Adam K:
of sending me rear window PS1

1337
00:43:35,820 --> 00:43:36,780
Adam K:
graphics.

1338
00:43:37,114 --> 00:43:41,675
Aaron:
Uh, probably looked at it, and
then I thought, I don't have

1339
00:43:41,675 --> 00:43:44,155
Aaron:
time to play games anymore.

1340
00:43:44,155 --> 00:43:46,795
Aaron:
Here's, uh, no, that's a
podcast.

1341
00:43:46,795 --> 00:43:47,954
Aaron:
Mousepad.

1342
00:43:46,860 --> 00:43:48,579
Adam K:
Democracy. Democracy.

1343
00:43:48,579 --> 00:43:49,780
Adam K:
Manifest.

1344
00:43:49,315 --> 00:43:49,835
Aaron:
Oh, yeah.

1345
00:43:49,835 --> 00:43:53,635
Aaron:
I looked at that game, um, where
you're, you're having to submit

1346
00:43:53,635 --> 00:43:58,974
Aaron:
proposals for laws and, and try
and like get the best law

1347
00:43:58,974 --> 00:44:00,635
Aaron:
proposed and negotiate.

1348
00:44:00,635 --> 00:44:05,025
Aaron:
And I was like, I was like, I'm
not stoned enough to look to go

1349
00:44:05,025 --> 00:44:06,264
Aaron:
forward with this.

1350
00:44:06,289 --> 00:44:10,369
Adam K:
It just it looks so mundane and
silly and dumb.

1351
00:44:10,369 --> 00:44:12,010
Adam K:
I was like, oh, Aaron might like
this.

1352
00:44:12,010 --> 00:44:12,369
Adam K:
I

1353
00:44:12,144 --> 00:44:12,684
Aaron:
Now

1354
00:44:12,170 --> 00:44:12,690
Adam K:
like the

1355
00:44:12,485 --> 00:44:12,905
Aaron:
I'm

1356
00:44:12,489 --> 00:44:13,309
Adam K:
art style

1357
00:44:12,704 --> 00:44:13,664
Aaron:
more interested

1358
00:44:13,110 --> 00:44:13,650
Adam K:
too.

1359
00:44:13,465 --> 00:44:15,585
Aaron:
in this game I saw today it was

1360
00:44:15,585 --> 00:44:17,184
Aaron:
called a it's set in the

1361
00:44:17,184 --> 00:44:18,664
Aaron:
nineteen nineties in Poland, and

1362
00:44:18,664 --> 00:44:19,824
Aaron:
you're trying to renovate your

1363
00:44:19,824 --> 00:44:20,824
Aaron:
apartment.

1364
00:44:22,224 --> 00:44:24,184
Aaron:
And the thing is, is like you

1365
00:44:24,184 --> 00:44:25,864
Aaron:
don't have any money and there's

1366
00:44:25,864 --> 00:44:27,465
Aaron:
no stores and there's no

1367
00:44:27,465 --> 00:44:28,465
Aaron:
supplies.

1368
00:44:28,465 --> 00:44:32,425
Aaron:
So like you to change your couch
out, you just throw the couch

1369
00:44:32,425 --> 00:44:35,344
Aaron:
out the window and then you.

1370
00:44:35,344 --> 00:44:38,465
Aaron:
I think you steal someone else's
couch or one just appears.

1371
00:44:38,465 --> 00:44:41,385
Aaron:
But like when you move the
couch, there's like a huge blood

1372
00:44:41,385 --> 00:44:43,864
Aaron:
spot on the floor that you don't
know what to do with.

1373
00:44:43,864 --> 00:44:46,144
Aaron:
So you got to cover it up with
another couch.

1374
00:44:46,144 --> 00:44:50,184
Aaron:
And then like when you're tiling
the, the, the wall, the tiles

1375
00:44:50,184 --> 00:44:53,824
Aaron:
are, they're all from the trash
and they don't like quite stay

1376
00:44:53,824 --> 00:44:54,465
Aaron:
on the wall.

1377
00:44:54,465 --> 00:44:54,985
Aaron:
Right.

1378
00:44:54,985 --> 00:44:57,224
Aaron:
And yeah, that's what I'm
interested in.

1379
00:44:57,849 --> 00:44:59,889
Adam K:
I wish more games were like
that.

1380
00:44:59,889 --> 00:45:02,750
Adam K:
I ever tell you my my pitch for
Duke Nukem.

1381
00:45:03,605 --> 00:45:04,364
Aaron:
Now.

1382
00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:06,110
Adam K:
So you know the the game, right?

1383
00:45:06,110 --> 00:45:08,670
Adam K:
It's 90s badass guy.

1384
00:45:08,670 --> 00:45:09,429
Adam K:
Just.

1385
00:45:10,164 --> 00:45:12,764
Aaron:
I came to kick ass and chew
bubble gum.

1386
00:45:12,389 --> 00:45:14,989
Adam K:
Exactly. Yeah. Just rips off,
you know?

1387
00:45:14,724 --> 00:45:15,485
Aaron:
Yeah. They live.

1388
00:45:15,485 --> 00:45:16,164
Aaron:
Yep.

1389
00:45:15,710 --> 00:45:17,349
Adam K:
Yeah. Anything basically.

1390
00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:19,150
Adam K:
I mean, I think he says, hail to
the king, baby.

1391
00:45:19,150 --> 00:45:19,710
Adam K:
All this stuff.

1392
00:45:19,710 --> 00:45:24,230
Adam K:
Anyway, when they were like,
announced they like bought the

1393
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:26,190
Adam K:
or they were like making a
sequel and it failed.

1394
00:45:26,190 --> 00:45:28,909
Adam K:
And then like gearbox bought it
and they were like, going to

1395
00:45:28,909 --> 00:45:29,469
Adam K:
bring it back to life.

1396
00:45:29,469 --> 00:45:30,789
Adam K:
I was like, man, I wish they had

1397
00:45:30,789 --> 00:45:32,849
Adam K:
some self-awareness of how lame

1398
00:45:32,849 --> 00:45:34,869
Adam K:
Duke Nukem is or just how he

1399
00:45:34,869 --> 00:45:37,630
Adam K:
doesn't, doesn't belong in

1400
00:45:37,630 --> 00:45:38,750
Adam K:
today's world.

1401
00:45:38,750 --> 00:45:42,030
Adam K:
So it's like if you made a
sequel, it should be like you

1402
00:45:42,030 --> 00:45:44,030
Adam K:
start off with that first
mission where he's all badass

1403
00:45:44,030 --> 00:45:47,730
Adam K:
and cool, and then it hard cuts
to him at the convention center

1404
00:45:47,730 --> 00:45:50,349
Adam K:
and his lines not very long.

1405
00:45:50,349 --> 00:45:53,670
Adam K:
And he's like, he's taking
photos for with fans for fifty

1406
00:45:53,670 --> 00:45:54,190
Adam K:
bucks or whatever.

1407
00:45:54,190 --> 00:45:58,630
Adam K:
And it's just he's overweight
and, you know, he's got alimony

1408
00:45:58,630 --> 00:46:00,940
Adam K:
just because he he like settled
down, but he shouldn't have.

1409
00:46:00,940 --> 00:46:01,900
Adam K:
He settled down with a stripper

1410
00:46:01,900 --> 00:46:04,079
Adam K:
that he got pregnant and like,

1411
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:05,960
Adam K:
that's the game I want to play

1412
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:06,260
Adam K:
of that.

1413
00:46:06,260 --> 00:46:07,920
Adam K:
And then then you have his like

1414
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,380
Adam K:
return to form, um, throughout

1415
00:46:11,380 --> 00:46:11,699
Adam K:
the game.

1416
00:46:11,699 --> 00:46:12,619
Adam K:
Like he, you actually have like

1417
00:46:12,619 --> 00:46:13,880
Adam K:
a redemption arc where he like,

1418
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,219
Adam K:
he becomes badass again, but he

1419
00:46:16,219 --> 00:46:17,860
Adam K:
earns it.

1420
00:46:17,860 --> 00:46:20,420
Adam K:
But anyway, that will never
exist.

1421
00:46:20,835 --> 00:46:22,195
Aaron:
I could have sworn I pitched you

1422
00:46:22,195 --> 00:46:24,775
Aaron:
a Duke Nukem game that was

1423
00:46:24,775 --> 00:46:26,635
Aaron:
somewhat similar, but it was

1424
00:46:26,635 --> 00:46:26,875
Aaron:
him.

1425
00:46:26,875 --> 00:46:31,594
Aaron:
Like him dealing with his
divorce the entire time.

1426
00:46:31,594 --> 00:46:34,394
Aaron:
Like, I swear I pitched that to
you.

1427
00:46:34,394 --> 00:46:36,594
Aaron:
I want to say that you stole my
idea.

1428
00:46:36,380 --> 00:46:37,820
Adam K:
Not, not even close.

1429
00:46:37,820 --> 00:46:38,380
Adam K:
Because

1430
00:46:37,994 --> 00:46:38,715
Aaron:
Yeah.

1431
00:46:38,179 --> 00:46:42,400
Adam K:
I, I, I had this, I'm pretty
sure I, I had this idea back in

1432
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:43,780
Adam K:
like two thousand and nine.

1433
00:46:43,795 --> 00:46:45,594
Aaron:
I had mine in two thousand.

1434
00:46:46,635 --> 00:46:47,715
Aaron:
That's when I first had it.

1435
00:46:47,715 --> 00:46:48,235
Aaron:
I was

1436
00:46:48,019 --> 00:46:48,699
Adam K:
Okay.

1437
00:46:48,034 --> 00:46:50,474
Aaron:
playing Duke Nukem 3D Total
Meltdown.

1438
00:46:51,059 --> 00:46:52,500
Adam K:
You just googled that.

1439
00:46:52,514 --> 00:46:54,675
Aaron:
No, I had that game.

1440
00:46:55,340 --> 00:46:56,880
Adam K:
I've actually never played a

1441
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,300
Adam K:
Duke Nukem more than like a

1442
00:46:59,300 --> 00:46:59,760
Adam K:
level.

1443
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,519
Adam K:
It just it didn't.

1444
00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:02,519
Adam K:
A friend of mine had it.

1445
00:47:02,519 --> 00:47:04,559
Adam K:
He's like, you know, if you give

1446
00:47:04,559 --> 00:47:05,679
Adam K:
the strippers money, they show

1447
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:06,079
Adam K:
their boobs.

1448
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:08,519
Adam K:
And like, those don't look like
boobs.

1449
00:47:08,519 --> 00:47:12,260
Adam K:
Even then they were it was bad

1450
00:47:11,735 --> 00:47:12,454
Aaron:
Yeah.

1451
00:47:12,059 --> 00:47:13,079
Adam K:
anyway.

1452
00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:14,480
Adam K:
Well, I think you and I probably

1453
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,519
Adam K:
just had the same idea or

1454
00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:20,559
Adam K:
similar ideas, and I. I wish we

1455
00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:22,559
Adam K:
could find someone willing to

1456
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:23,840
Adam K:
take a risk on that and actually

1457
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,960
Adam K:
make something like original and

1458
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,239
Adam K:
exciting that like that has

1459
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,480
Adam K:
moments to breathe, you know,

1460
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,079
Adam K:
but like, I would love a level

1461
00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:32,960
Adam K:
where he has to go to the

1462
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,000
Adam K:
divorce lawyer's office or he's

1463
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,159
Adam K:
got to deliver the alimony

1464
00:47:36,159 --> 00:47:36,880
Adam K:
check.

1465
00:47:38,094 --> 00:47:42,534
Aaron:
But he's like, he's just there's
constantly there's pig aliens

1466
00:47:42,534 --> 00:47:44,815
Aaron:
floating outside the window.

1467
00:47:44,815 --> 00:47:47,614
Aaron:
And he's just like, every time
he's trying to deal with his

1468
00:47:47,614 --> 00:47:50,094
Aaron:
contract, he's just like, damn.

1469
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:52,039
Adam K:
Well,

1470
00:47:51,695 --> 00:47:52,094
Aaron:
And

1471
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,159
Adam K:
I

1472
00:47:51,894 --> 00:47:52,375
Aaron:
he's.

1473
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:52,619
Adam K:
think

1474
00:47:52,335 --> 00:47:53,054
Aaron:
Yeah.

1475
00:47:52,420 --> 00:47:54,519
Adam K:
I think the pig aliens are like,

1476
00:47:54,519 --> 00:47:56,119
Adam K:
they should represent like the

1477
00:47:56,119 --> 00:47:57,949
Adam K:
woke culture that he hates so

1478
00:47:57,949 --> 00:47:58,349
Adam K:
much.

1479
00:47:58,349 --> 00:48:01,349
Adam K:
You know, I hate using that term
because it's overused and it's

1480
00:48:01,349 --> 00:48:03,909
Adam K:
just this kind of catch all
dogwhistle thing or whatever.

1481
00:48:03,909 --> 00:48:05,670
Adam K:
But like, he, he wouldn't.

1482
00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:10,550
Adam K:
But just the idea is that, well,
no, now we as a society have

1483
00:48:10,550 --> 00:48:13,469
Adam K:
accepted the pigs and they're
just but they're still rude and

1484
00:48:13,469 --> 00:48:15,949
Adam K:
they're, they just treat him
like shit, but he can't do

1485
00:48:15,949 --> 00:48:17,110
Adam K:
anything about it.

1486
00:48:17,114 --> 00:48:19,275
Aaron:
They have blue hair and they
work in HR.

1487
00:48:19,750 --> 00:48:26,289
Adam K:
Yeah. He's like trying to order
a meal at a like so one of the,

1488
00:48:26,289 --> 00:48:28,349
Adam K:
one of the buttons, he goes
through his pocket to see how

1489
00:48:28,349 --> 00:48:29,469
Adam K:
much change he has.

1490
00:48:29,469 --> 00:48:31,110
Adam K:
And he only has ninety seven
cents.

1491
00:48:31,110 --> 00:48:34,250
Adam K:
So he has to then go to a fast
food restaurant and find

1492
00:48:34,250 --> 00:48:35,230
Adam K:
something on the menu.

1493
00:48:35,230 --> 00:48:38,269
Adam K:
Or he's got to like go through
the trash and find a coupon.

1494
00:48:38,269 --> 00:48:40,989
Adam K:
And these are all like just
little mini games that he does.

1495
00:48:40,989 --> 00:48:43,269
Adam K:
And so then he finally goes up
and tries to buy it.

1496
00:48:43,269 --> 00:48:44,929
Adam K:
But the pig with the blue hair

1497
00:48:44,929 --> 00:48:46,610
Adam K:
is working at the cash register,

1498
00:48:46,610 --> 00:48:47,710
Adam K:
and they won't look up from

1499
00:48:47,710 --> 00:48:48,969
Adam K:
their, you know, futuristic

1500
00:48:48,969 --> 00:48:49,750
Adam K:
tablet thing.

1501
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:52,150
Adam K:
And then he says something like,
listen here, pig.

1502
00:48:52,150 --> 00:48:53,429
Adam K:
And like, would you call me?

1503
00:48:53,429 --> 00:48:54,190
Adam K:
And then it becomes this.

1504
00:48:54,190 --> 00:48:57,210
Adam K:
And then they start filming him
and then he, he ends up being,

1505
00:48:57,210 --> 00:49:00,570
Adam K:
you know, he's like a Karen,
like YouTube video.

1506
00:49:01,625 --> 00:49:03,344
Aaron:
I want your manager.

1507
00:49:03,250 --> 00:49:03,889
Adam K:
Yeah.

1508
00:49:03,425 --> 00:49:05,025
Aaron:
Get me your manager.

1509
00:49:05,329 --> 00:49:07,250
Adam K:
Yeah. Uh. Bitch ass.

1510
00:49:07,250 --> 00:49:08,090
Adam K:
Dead ass.

1511
00:49:08,090 --> 00:49:09,250
Adam K:
Karen.

1512
00:49:09,250 --> 00:49:10,170
Adam K:
Balding.

1513
00:49:10,170 --> 00:49:10,610
Adam K:
Overweight.

1514
00:49:10,610 --> 00:49:13,769
Adam K:
Karen wants to speak to my
manager.

1515
00:49:13,769 --> 00:49:14,769
Adam K:
I wouldn't say lol.

1516
00:49:14,769 --> 00:49:19,449
Adam K:
They say rofl or I don't know,
look at UNC.

1517
00:49:18,905 --> 00:49:22,585
Aaron:
Actually, that would be awesome
if Duke Nukem had.

1518
00:49:22,585 --> 00:49:28,224
Aaron:
He dawned on, like, the Karen
Bob haircut in order to.

1519
00:49:28,224 --> 00:49:32,505
Aaron:
In order to, like, get on the
level with with these people,

1520
00:49:32,505 --> 00:49:36,224
Aaron:
like he goes undercover and then
he's just maybe he's just trans,

1521
00:49:36,224 --> 00:49:38,505
Aaron:
I don't know, I don't know, I
have to work on the the thing,

1522
00:49:38,505 --> 00:49:40,905
Aaron:
but it starts with Duke Nukem
with that haircut.

1523
00:49:40,905 --> 00:49:42,065
Aaron:
And I think that works

1524
00:49:41,650 --> 00:49:42,250
Adam K:
It's got.

1525
00:49:41,864 --> 00:49:42,505
Aaron:
for me.

1526
00:49:42,090 --> 00:49:44,010
Adam K:
It's got to be like The
Incredibles.

1527
00:49:44,010 --> 00:49:46,010
Adam K:
That moment where someone goes

1528
00:49:46,010 --> 00:49:47,449
Adam K:
like, I have a job for you and

1529
00:49:47,449 --> 00:49:48,809
Adam K:
he gets hired for it, but they,

1530
00:49:48,809 --> 00:49:50,090
Adam K:
they think he's Master Chief or

1531
00:49:50,090 --> 00:49:51,690
Adam K:
something else.

1532
00:49:51,690 --> 00:49:52,889
Adam K:
They get a mix up with.

1533
00:49:52,889 --> 00:49:56,000
Adam K:
Another has been.

1534
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,559
Adam K:
And then he shows up and like,
oh, oh my God, I'm so sorry.

1535
00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:01,559
Adam K:
Who are you?

1536
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:08,800
Adam K:
And then but then, then yes, he
gets a he takes a job, like with

1537
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,400
Adam K:
the CIA, but he has to go
undercover as a woman.

1538
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:12,800
Adam K:
And

1539
00:50:12,565 --> 00:50:13,284
Aaron:
Yeah.

1540
00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:16,119
Adam K:
then yeah, he gets like, fondled
and he finally he understands

1541
00:50:16,119 --> 00:50:16,880
Adam K:
what it's like.

1542
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:17,119
Adam K:
Yeah.

1543
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:19,440
Adam K:
He gained some empathy for all
the women.

1544
00:50:19,724 --> 00:50:20,405
Aaron:
Duke

1545
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:20,400
Adam K:
Uh.

1546
00:50:20,204 --> 00:50:23,164
Aaron:
Nukem in that wig while some

1547
00:50:23,164 --> 00:50:24,644
Aaron:
guy's grabbing his pussy and

1548
00:50:24,644 --> 00:50:25,925
Aaron:
he's crying

1549
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:26,400
Adam K:
Mhm.

1550
00:50:25,724 --> 00:50:28,244
Aaron:
would just be so amazing.

1551
00:50:28,039 --> 00:50:31,239
Adam K:
Yeah. The objectives go to the
bathroom and cry and reflect on

1552
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:32,639
Adam K:
your life choices.

1553
00:50:32,405 --> 00:50:36,965
Aaron:
Yeah. I came here to cry and

1554
00:50:36,965 --> 00:50:39,045
Aaron:
chew bubble gum, and I'm all out

1555
00:50:39,045 --> 00:50:39,965
Aaron:
of gum.

1556
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,480
Adam K:
It's like, seriously, you use

1557
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,079
Adam K:
the my summer car engine for

1558
00:50:45,079 --> 00:50:45,440
Adam K:
this?

1559
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,519
Adam K:
Like, shooting in this game

1560
00:50:47,519 --> 00:50:48,840
Adam K:
should only be the last two

1561
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:49,679
Adam K:
minutes.

1562
00:50:49,925 --> 00:50:50,684
Aaron:
Yeah.

1563
00:50:50,599 --> 00:50:51,159
Adam K:
Like that's it.

1564
00:50:51,159 --> 00:50:53,820
Adam K:
There's almost no action in
this.

1565
00:50:53,820 --> 00:50:57,099
Adam K:
It's all mini games like mowing
the lawn.

1566
00:50:57,099 --> 00:51:00,460
Adam K:
Um, yeah, it should be VR.

1567
00:51:02,059 --> 00:51:04,820
Adam K:
You should experience it from
Duke's perspective.

1568
00:51:04,155 --> 00:51:06,875
Aaron:
Duke Nukem my summer off.

1569
00:51:06,875 --> 00:51:11,554
Aaron:
Yeah. That's the game I'd play.

1570
00:51:12,875 --> 00:51:14,155
Aaron:
Maybe you should just be.

1571
00:51:14,155 --> 00:51:15,914
Aaron:
It should combine this Polish

1572
00:51:15,914 --> 00:51:17,795
Aaron:
renovation simulator with Duke

1573
00:51:17,795 --> 00:51:19,074
Aaron:
Nukem, where he's just trying

1574
00:51:19,074 --> 00:51:19,635
Aaron:
to.

1575
00:51:19,635 --> 00:51:22,315
Aaron:
He's trying to make his divorce
dad apartment.

1576
00:51:22,315 --> 00:51:24,914
Aaron:
He just moved into, like,
livable.

1577
00:51:24,914 --> 00:51:27,434
Aaron:
But he's got no money.

1578
00:51:27,434 --> 00:51:31,554
Aaron:
And, like, basically the the
countdown is like his kids going

1579
00:51:31,554 --> 00:51:33,275
Aaron:
to visit in a few days.

1580
00:51:33,275 --> 00:51:36,355
Aaron:
No, no, no, the caseworker is
going to visit in a few days.

1581
00:51:36,355 --> 00:51:38,835
Aaron:
And if it doesn't look like a

1582
00:51:38,835 --> 00:51:40,795
Aaron:
eleven year old kid can spend

1583
00:51:40,795 --> 00:51:42,594
Aaron:
the weekend there, then you lose

1584
00:51:42,594 --> 00:51:43,554
Aaron:
the game.

1585
00:51:44,980 --> 00:51:46,460
Adam K:
I that's because what you could

1586
00:51:46,460 --> 00:51:48,139
Adam K:
do there too is you have a timer

1587
00:51:48,139 --> 00:51:48,699
Adam K:
and then

1588
00:51:48,474 --> 00:51:49,034
Aaron:
Yeah.

1589
00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:51,300
Adam K:
there's no real instructions on
how

1590
00:51:50,954 --> 00:51:51,514
Aaron:
No.

1591
00:51:51,099 --> 00:51:53,489
Adam K:
to make the apartment look nice,

1592
00:51:53,135 --> 00:51:53,894
Aaron:
Yeah.

1593
00:51:53,289 --> 00:51:55,489
Adam K:
but you can interact with every
object.

1594
00:51:55,489 --> 00:51:57,230
Adam K:
And so and then again, it's like

1595
00:51:57,230 --> 00:51:59,489
Adam K:
the maybe it's like there is

1596
00:51:59,489 --> 00:52:01,190
Adam K:
some secret combo, but more

1597
00:52:01,190 --> 00:52:02,449
Adam K:
likely than not, it doesn't

1598
00:52:02,449 --> 00:52:03,369
Adam K:
matter.

1599
00:52:03,369 --> 00:52:05,070
Adam K:
Um, because they, they find all

1600
00:52:05,070 --> 00:52:07,289
Adam K:
like his sex toys, like in the

1601
00:52:07,289 --> 00:52:08,090
Adam K:
closet

1602
00:52:07,295 --> 00:52:08,494
Aaron:
Well, there's

1603
00:52:07,889 --> 00:52:08,449
Adam K:
or.

1604
00:52:08,295 --> 00:52:13,215
Aaron:
like, you know, like randomly
strippers or someone will knock

1605
00:52:13,215 --> 00:52:17,135
Aaron:
on your door and they'll be
like, Duke, we have a baby, you

1606
00:52:17,135 --> 00:52:18,655
Aaron:
know, or whatever, whatever.

1607
00:52:18,655 --> 00:52:21,094
Aaron:
And you're trying, you're hoping
that that doesn't happen when

1608
00:52:21,094 --> 00:52:23,215
Aaron:
the caseworker comes by,

1609
00:52:22,809 --> 00:52:23,449
Adam K:
Yeah.

1610
00:52:23,014 --> 00:52:23,795
Aaron:
you know,

1611
00:52:23,530 --> 00:52:24,150
Adam K:
Or

1612
00:52:23,594 --> 00:52:24,295
Aaron:
that'll ruin

1613
00:52:23,949 --> 00:52:24,690
Adam K:
it's,

1614
00:52:24,094 --> 00:52:24,735
Aaron:
everything.

1615
00:52:24,489 --> 00:52:26,929
Adam K:
it's like a schlubby millennial,

1616
00:52:26,929 --> 00:52:28,829
Adam K:
you know, forty something fan

1617
00:52:28,829 --> 00:52:30,829
Adam K:
who's like, like I found you

1618
00:52:30,829 --> 00:52:32,250
Adam K:
like, or, you know, or he's like

1619
00:52:32,250 --> 00:52:34,530
Adam K:
mad because he paid him on

1620
00:52:34,530 --> 00:52:36,170
Adam K:
cameo, but Duke never made the

1621
00:52:36,170 --> 00:52:37,010
Adam K:
video.

1622
00:52:38,329 --> 00:52:39,489
Adam K:
He's like, you motherfucker.

1623
00:52:39,489 --> 00:52:41,090
Adam K:
And he starts quoting all the
things.

1624
00:52:41,090 --> 00:52:42,630
Adam K:
He's like, I told you to say,

1625
00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:45,070
Adam K:
I'm the king, baby and all

1626
00:52:45,070 --> 00:52:45,769
Adam K:
saying all this like

1627
00:52:45,769 --> 00:52:46,769
Adam K:
misogynistic stuff.

1628
00:52:46,769 --> 00:52:49,690
Adam K:
And the caseworkers just
watching like, okay.

1629
00:52:49,690 --> 00:52:50,130
Adam K:
And he's.

1630
00:52:50,130 --> 00:52:51,510
Adam K:
And Duke's like, What did you

1631
00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:52,809
Adam K:
write down on your your pad

1632
00:52:52,809 --> 00:52:54,230
Adam K:
there?

1633
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:57,230
Adam K:
Uh, I want this to exist.

1634
00:52:57,644 --> 00:52:58,764
Aaron:
I'm going to send you this.

1635
00:52:58,764 --> 00:52:59,244
Aaron:
This.

1636
00:52:59,244 --> 00:53:01,684
Aaron:
I have the link fresh because I
sent it to you.

1637
00:53:01,684 --> 00:53:05,844
Aaron:
Uh, someone on the Polish team
that that does video design.

1638
00:53:05,844 --> 00:53:09,284
Aaron:
And I said, uh, what did I tell
them?

1639
00:53:09,284 --> 00:53:13,925
Aaron:
I said, I'm not sure if this is
offensive or hilarious, but this

1640
00:53:13,925 --> 00:53:15,525
Aaron:
is this game I found.

1641
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:18,349
Adam K:
Uh.

1642
00:53:18,844 --> 00:53:19,525
Aaron:
Yeah.

1643
00:53:19,510 --> 00:53:20,010
Adam K:
Well

1644
00:53:19,565 --> 00:53:20,164
Aaron:
I'm gonna

1645
00:53:19,809 --> 00:53:20,389
Adam K:
done.

1646
00:53:19,965 --> 00:53:20,885
Aaron:
send this to you.

1647
00:53:20,989 --> 00:53:22,869
Adam K:
All right, all right, well, I
need to go.

1648
00:53:22,869 --> 00:53:24,070
Adam K:
I'm going to get this video up.

1649
00:53:24,070 --> 00:53:26,110
Adam K:
I gotta catch a train in a
little bit.

1650
00:53:26,565 --> 00:53:29,005
Aaron:
Okay. Where are you at?

1651
00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:30,269
Adam K:
I'm at home.

1652
00:53:30,485 --> 00:53:31,485
Aaron:
Oh. All right.

1653
00:53:31,230 --> 00:53:31,949
Adam K:
I'm back.

1654
00:53:31,949 --> 00:53:34,309
Adam K:
I just I gotta catch a train.

1655
00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:36,030
Adam K:
We have public transportation
here.

1656
00:53:36,030 --> 00:53:37,510
Adam K:
I have places to go.

1657
00:53:37,844 --> 00:53:38,965
Aaron:
I know I've been on it.

1658
00:53:38,965 --> 00:53:39,724
Aaron:
It sucks.

1659
00:53:39,724 --> 00:53:40,644
Aaron:
Uh,

1660
00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:40,469
Adam K:
Yeah.

1661
00:53:40,445 --> 00:53:41,125
Aaron:
okay.

1662
00:53:41,125 --> 00:53:44,644
Aaron:
I'm sending you this Polish
apartment renovator simulator.

1663
00:53:44,550 --> 00:53:45,230
Adam K:
I'll check it out.

1664
00:53:45,230 --> 00:53:46,829
Adam K:
Thank you so much for that.

1665
00:53:46,565 --> 00:53:47,284
Aaron:
Yeah.

1666
00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:47,550
Adam K:
All right.

1667
00:53:47,550 --> 00:53:48,510
Adam K:
I'll talk to you later.

1668
00:53:48,364 --> 00:53:48,925
Aaron:
All right.

1669
00:53:48,925 --> 00:53:49,644
Aaron:
Yeah.

1670
00:53:48,949 --> 00:53:49,590
Adam K:
Bye.