1 00:00:00,091 --> 00:00:00,811 Timothy: Winner. 2 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,200 Adam K: You're you're the you are the you won the contest. 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,320 Adam K: Uh, an old man with a giant checks going to come to your 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:12,400 Adam K: house and you get a free year of, uh, blog posts. 5 00:00:12,730 --> 00:00:13,771 Timothy: Ed McMahon. 6 00:00:13,771 --> 00:00:15,291 Timothy: Come to my house. 7 00:00:15,291 --> 00:00:15,811 Timothy: I don't 8 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:16,199 Adam K: Yeah. 9 00:00:15,611 --> 00:00:17,330 Timothy: know if that man is still alive anymore. 10 00:00:17,330 --> 00:00:18,251 Timothy: Probably not. 11 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,719 Adam K: I'm pretty sure he died before Johnny Carson. 12 00:00:21,931 --> 00:00:22,611 Timothy: Yeah. 13 00:00:22,039 --> 00:00:22,859 Adam K: So, 14 00:00:22,451 --> 00:00:23,091 Timothy: Okay. 15 00:00:22,660 --> 00:00:23,480 Adam K: anyway. 16 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,440 Adam K: Hey, Duff, thanks for coming on here. 17 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,059 Adam K: And, uh, 18 00:00:25,811 --> 00:00:26,291 Timothy: No 19 00:00:25,859 --> 00:00:26,399 Adam K: taking 20 00:00:26,091 --> 00:00:26,890 Timothy: problem. 21 00:00:26,199 --> 00:00:27,800 Adam K: over for for Aaron. 22 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:32,759 Adam K: Uh, you've been friends with Aaron since diapers, or would 23 00:00:32,759 --> 00:00:34,759 Adam K: you guys go to high school together or something? 24 00:00:34,651 --> 00:00:37,290 Timothy: We met in high school. 25 00:00:37,290 --> 00:00:38,651 Timothy: I guess it was Trek. 26 00:00:38,651 --> 00:00:40,771 Timothy: It was off season cross country for me. 27 00:00:41,079 --> 00:00:41,759 Adam K: Yeah. 28 00:00:41,331 --> 00:00:47,651 Timothy: And then I remember running next to him, and then, I don't know. 29 00:00:47,651 --> 00:00:49,131 Timothy: He usually tells stories better. 30 00:00:49,131 --> 00:00:51,091 Timothy: He's always the storyteller. 31 00:00:51,091 --> 00:00:51,811 Timothy: But, 32 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,600 Adam K: I disagree, 33 00:00:51,610 --> 00:00:53,191 Timothy: uh, I, 34 00:00:52,399 --> 00:00:53,640 Adam K: but sure. 35 00:00:53,990 --> 00:01:00,591 Timothy: I, uh, I ditched the run at some point because I don't know why I 36 00:01:00,591 --> 00:01:05,391 Timothy: was in high school and and ditching things was was fun. 37 00:01:05,391 --> 00:01:08,430 Timothy: And, uh, I went and hung out in a gas station because I needed 38 00:01:08,430 --> 00:01:11,031 Timothy: to, to take a number two. 39 00:01:11,031 --> 00:01:14,631 Timothy: And, uh, and then right about the time that Aaron ran back 40 00:01:14,631 --> 00:01:17,710 Timothy: around the gas station, I rejoined him for the run because 41 00:01:17,710 --> 00:01:20,430 Timothy: that was they had to run to the lighthouse and back. 42 00:01:20,430 --> 00:01:23,271 Timothy: And the gas station was somewhere in the middle. 43 00:01:23,271 --> 00:01:26,150 Timothy: And he was like, did you didn't run to the lighthouse? 44 00:01:26,150 --> 00:01:28,510 Timothy: Like, no, I certainly didn't. 45 00:01:28,510 --> 00:01:33,471 Timothy: I was at the coyote station and thus a friendship was born. 46 00:01:33,739 --> 00:01:37,140 Adam K: Yeah. Aaron. Aaron, I think is 47 00:01:37,140 --> 00:01:38,400 Adam K: attracted to people who like to 48 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,900 Adam K: get around the law or cut, cut 49 00:01:41,900 --> 00:01:43,700 Adam K: corners and just be a little bit 50 00:01:43,700 --> 00:01:45,099 Adam K: smarter than the rest of the 51 00:01:45,099 --> 00:01:47,099 Adam K: lemmings the way he he would say 52 00:01:47,099 --> 00:01:47,260 Adam K: it. 53 00:01:47,260 --> 00:01:48,420 Adam K: So, but 54 00:01:48,150 --> 00:01:48,590 Timothy: I 55 00:01:48,219 --> 00:01:48,640 Adam K: I 56 00:01:48,391 --> 00:01:48,950 Timothy: wasn't 57 00:01:48,439 --> 00:01:49,079 Adam K: don't want 58 00:01:48,751 --> 00:01:49,230 Timothy: always 59 00:01:48,879 --> 00:01:49,260 Adam K: to. 60 00:01:49,031 --> 00:01:49,751 Timothy: this way. 61 00:01:49,819 --> 00:01:50,560 Adam K: Yes, 62 00:01:49,831 --> 00:01:51,191 Timothy: He does encourage it, though. 63 00:01:51,191 --> 00:01:51,671 Timothy: He 64 00:01:51,359 --> 00:01:52,299 Adam K: yes. 65 00:01:51,471 --> 00:01:53,230 Timothy: led me down the wrong path. 66 00:01:53,340 --> 00:01:56,540 Adam K: Yeah. He's definitely the devil on both shoulders. 67 00:01:56,540 --> 00:02:00,480 Adam K: Um, but he is he's out taking a little mini vacay. 68 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,400 Adam K: Well deserved as he does, uh, once a month. 69 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,680 Adam K: So, um, thank you for agreeing to come on. 70 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,919 Adam K: Um, it's we've only got to, like, talk a couple times. 71 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,379 Adam K: Once was at a New Year's party 72 00:02:12,379 --> 00:02:13,159 Adam K: where we took a bunch of 73 00:02:13,159 --> 00:02:14,639 Adam K: mushrooms inside a giant brain, 74 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,120 Adam K: but that 75 00:02:15,531 --> 00:02:16,251 Timothy: That's always 76 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:16,900 Adam K: was, 77 00:02:16,050 --> 00:02:18,050 Timothy: a good time to get to know people. 78 00:02:17,699 --> 00:02:19,360 Adam K: it was just weird. 79 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,680 Adam K: Yeah. And then. 80 00:02:20,811 --> 00:02:22,450 Timothy: It wasn't a brain, wasn't it? 81 00:02:22,450 --> 00:02:23,091 Timothy: Yeah, that 82 00:02:22,879 --> 00:02:23,699 Adam K: Yeah, 83 00:02:22,890 --> 00:02:23,651 Timothy: is weird. 84 00:02:23,500 --> 00:02:24,520 Adam K: I think I have pictures of it. 85 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,400 Adam K: And then I just remember the bones of a giant sloth. 86 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,520 Adam K: Um, yeah, 87 00:02:29,491 --> 00:02:31,730 Timothy: Oh, that sloth was cool, wasn't it? 88 00:02:31,319 --> 00:02:33,080 Adam K: it was, and a little creepy. 89 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,080 Adam K: And then it just, your brain goes to those places where 90 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,919 Adam K: you're like, things were, were bigger at one point and we're 91 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,199 Adam K: very small, but we've terraformed this planet. 92 00:02:43,199 --> 00:02:43,960 Adam K: Who are we? 93 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,639 Adam K: What are we and not? 94 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,479 Adam K: I mean, it was it was a fine New Year's. 95 00:02:47,479 --> 00:02:50,879 Adam K: It was just, uh, probably not 96 00:02:50,879 --> 00:02:53,639 Adam K: the best substance to take, um, 97 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:54,599 Adam K: I think. 98 00:02:54,931 --> 00:02:58,191 Timothy: We all come from that same primordial is. 99 00:02:59,580 --> 00:03:00,500 Adam K: It's true. 100 00:03:00,550 --> 00:03:01,191 Timothy: That's 101 00:03:00,620 --> 00:03:01,379 Adam K: And. 102 00:03:00,991 --> 00:03:03,471 Timothy: that's our unifying bond, you and I. 103 00:03:03,620 --> 00:03:06,419 Adam K: Yeah. No, I mean, I, I've, I've said this before. 104 00:03:06,419 --> 00:03:08,099 Adam K: It's like, if you do believe in 105 00:03:08,099 --> 00:03:10,780 Adam K: the Big Bang, we all came from 106 00:03:10,780 --> 00:03:11,340 Adam K: stardust. 107 00:03:11,340 --> 00:03:15,580 Adam K: We all, you know, the whatever the whatever this, however, this 108 00:03:15,580 --> 00:03:18,259 Adam K: whole thing started, either we're inside a black hole and 109 00:03:18,259 --> 00:03:23,139 Adam K: that's just how energy expels or the universe is constantly, uh, 110 00:03:23,139 --> 00:03:27,539 Adam K: contracting and sucking itself in and blowing itself out. 111 00:03:27,539 --> 00:03:30,199 Adam K: It's like it, whatever's in us 112 00:03:30,199 --> 00:03:32,020 Adam K: is the same stuff that's in Mars 113 00:03:32,020 --> 00:03:32,939 Adam K: and beyond. 114 00:03:32,939 --> 00:03:36,580 Adam K: So it's like, hey, we're all connected in some way, right? 115 00:03:36,580 --> 00:03:39,580 Adam K: That that helps me sleep at night other because then it's 116 00:03:39,580 --> 00:03:41,979 Adam K: like, hey, the aliens are our friends, but we're also never 117 00:03:41,979 --> 00:03:44,580 Adam K: going to see them because the universe is too big. 118 00:03:44,580 --> 00:03:48,819 Adam K: But anyway, I'm on mushrooms now, in case you were wondering. 119 00:03:51,471 --> 00:03:52,191 Timothy: That's fine. 120 00:03:52,191 --> 00:03:55,270 Timothy: No stardust or the the apple or 121 00:03:55,270 --> 00:03:57,091 Timothy: the glimmer in Grand Pappy's I. 122 00:03:57,091 --> 00:03:57,610 Timothy: Whatever. 123 00:03:57,610 --> 00:03:59,730 Timothy: Whatever have you that brought us here? 124 00:03:59,730 --> 00:04:00,170 Timothy: I'm 125 00:03:59,930 --> 00:04:00,969 Adam K: No, 126 00:03:59,971 --> 00:04:01,050 Timothy: glad to be here. 127 00:04:00,770 --> 00:04:05,710 Adam K: no. There were two people in a in a garden, in a snake made 128 00:04:05,710 --> 00:04:07,289 Adam K: women do bad things. 129 00:04:07,289 --> 00:04:10,610 Adam K: And that's why we treat them horribly. 130 00:04:10,610 --> 00:04:11,370 Adam K: Thanks, 131 00:04:10,931 --> 00:04:11,450 Timothy: And 132 00:04:11,169 --> 00:04:11,969 Adam K: Bible. 133 00:04:11,251 --> 00:04:14,050 Timothy: he unlocked his jaw and he ate the apple. 134 00:04:14,050 --> 00:04:14,811 Timothy: It wasn't 135 00:04:14,330 --> 00:04:15,030 Adam K: Wait, 136 00:04:14,610 --> 00:04:16,050 Timothy: Adam at all, was it? 137 00:04:15,830 --> 00:04:18,850 Adam K: was there lockjaw involved? 138 00:04:17,690 --> 00:04:20,451 Timothy: Yeah. Snakes. 139 00:04:20,451 --> 00:04:23,971 Timothy: I think snakes, snakes at that point too. 140 00:04:23,971 --> 00:04:29,151 Timothy: As as far as that myth goes, snakes had feet because part of 141 00:04:29,151 --> 00:04:32,290 Timothy: being cast out of the Garden of Eden, I believe the serpent had 142 00:04:32,290 --> 00:04:35,050 Timothy: its feet removed in that myth. 143 00:04:35,050 --> 00:04:35,870 Timothy: I 144 00:04:35,209 --> 00:04:36,250 Adam K: That makes sense. 145 00:04:35,670 --> 00:04:37,411 Timothy: don't fact check me on that. 146 00:04:37,411 --> 00:04:38,571 Timothy: I don't know that. 147 00:04:38,569 --> 00:04:39,649 Adam K: You got to go to the original 148 00:04:39,649 --> 00:04:41,449 Adam K: Egyptian version, where Jesus 149 00:04:41,449 --> 00:04:42,569 Adam K: rode in on the back of a 150 00:04:42,569 --> 00:04:44,490 Adam K: velociraptor and. 151 00:04:45,331 --> 00:04:47,891 Timothy: Exactly. In the original Aramaic. 152 00:04:47,930 --> 00:04:48,490 Adam K: Did not. 153 00:04:48,490 --> 00:04:52,170 Adam K: I mean, realistically, he would have had an AK forty seven, but 154 00:04:52,170 --> 00:04:55,449 Adam K: the Americanized version of Jesus has an M16. 155 00:04:55,591 --> 00:04:56,430 Timothy: He would. 156 00:04:56,430 --> 00:04:59,350 Timothy: If God is just, he would have a 157 00:04:59,350 --> 00:05:01,690 Timothy: fully loaded, fully automatic 158 00:05:01,690 --> 00:05:02,630 Timothy: weapon. 159 00:05:02,709 --> 00:05:06,910 Adam K: Yes, American Jesus is just like parts of the Old Testament 160 00:05:06,910 --> 00:05:09,709 Adam K: slapped on to New Testament where it's like New Testament. 161 00:05:09,709 --> 00:05:11,949 Adam K: Jesus is a pretty cool dude. 162 00:05:11,949 --> 00:05:14,430 Adam K: Uh, sandals hanging out with whores. 163 00:05:14,430 --> 00:05:16,569 Adam K: Like I, I like 164 00:05:16,151 --> 00:05:16,630 Timothy: Just 165 00:05:16,370 --> 00:05:16,790 Adam K: that 166 00:05:16,430 --> 00:05:17,151 Timothy: chilling. 167 00:05:16,589 --> 00:05:18,709 Adam K: Jesus, I would chill with that dude. 168 00:05:18,709 --> 00:05:19,629 Adam K: Um, 169 00:05:18,951 --> 00:05:19,670 Timothy: Yeah. 170 00:05:19,430 --> 00:05:23,509 Adam K: but yeah, my, my family in the Midwest would like to differ. 171 00:05:23,831 --> 00:05:24,990 Timothy: Yeah. He 172 00:05:24,629 --> 00:05:25,329 Adam K: Yeah, 173 00:05:24,790 --> 00:05:25,951 Timothy: would have, 174 00:05:25,129 --> 00:05:25,670 Adam K: yeah. 175 00:05:25,750 --> 00:05:27,790 Timothy: you know, a nice pair of 176 00:05:27,790 --> 00:05:31,031 Timothy: Birkenstocks, a pair of jeans, a 177 00:05:31,031 --> 00:05:32,831 Timothy: nice, nicely well-groomed beard 178 00:05:32,831 --> 00:05:34,230 Timothy: with all of the beard products 179 00:05:34,230 --> 00:05:35,430 Timothy: that are presented to you on 180 00:05:35,430 --> 00:05:36,531 Timothy: Instagram 181 00:05:36,310 --> 00:05:36,910 Adam K: Yeah. 182 00:05:36,331 --> 00:05:37,331 Timothy: and, 183 00:05:36,750 --> 00:05:37,509 Adam K: A newly 184 00:05:37,130 --> 00:05:37,670 Timothy: uh. 185 00:05:37,310 --> 00:05:38,829 Adam K: leased Denali. 186 00:05:38,951 --> 00:05:40,271 Timothy: Yeah, exactly. 187 00:05:40,269 --> 00:05:40,790 Adam K: Yeah. 188 00:05:40,391 --> 00:05:40,831 Timothy: You'd 189 00:05:40,629 --> 00:05:40,949 Adam K: Eight 190 00:05:40,630 --> 00:05:40,951 Timothy: be 191 00:05:40,750 --> 00:05:41,310 Adam K: hundred 192 00:05:40,750 --> 00:05:41,451 Timothy: like, 193 00:05:41,110 --> 00:05:41,589 Adam K: dollars 194 00:05:41,250 --> 00:05:41,711 Timothy: come 195 00:05:41,389 --> 00:05:42,110 Adam K: a month. 196 00:05:41,511 --> 00:05:42,391 Timothy: on, man, 197 00:05:42,709 --> 00:05:43,310 Adam K: Yeah. 198 00:05:43,190 --> 00:05:43,651 Timothy: I 199 00:05:43,230 --> 00:05:43,870 Adam K: He's never 200 00:05:43,451 --> 00:05:43,990 Timothy: got some 201 00:05:43,670 --> 00:05:44,029 Adam K: going 202 00:05:43,790 --> 00:05:44,230 Timothy: things 203 00:05:43,829 --> 00:05:44,269 Adam K: to pay 204 00:05:44,031 --> 00:05:44,391 Timothy: to 205 00:05:44,069 --> 00:05:44,430 Adam K: that 206 00:05:44,190 --> 00:05:44,630 Timothy: tell 207 00:05:44,230 --> 00:05:44,750 Adam K: thing. 208 00:05:44,430 --> 00:05:44,951 Timothy: you. 209 00:05:44,829 --> 00:05:46,990 Adam K: Yeah. Eight percent Apr. 210 00:05:47,230 --> 00:05:47,630 Timothy: He'll 211 00:05:47,389 --> 00:05:47,949 Adam K: Hop 212 00:05:47,430 --> 00:05:48,031 Timothy: never get 213 00:05:47,750 --> 00:05:48,189 Adam K: on 214 00:05:47,831 --> 00:05:48,230 Timothy: that 215 00:05:47,990 --> 00:05:48,509 Adam K: in. 216 00:05:48,031 --> 00:05:48,591 Timothy: paid off. 217 00:05:48,591 --> 00:05:50,990 Timothy: Not before someone plows into the side of him. 218 00:05:51,029 --> 00:05:51,470 Adam K: Right. 219 00:05:51,470 --> 00:05:53,709 Adam K: And keeps telling everyone that diesel's a good idea. 220 00:05:53,709 --> 00:05:54,089 Adam K: Yeah. 221 00:05:54,211 --> 00:05:55,211 Timothy: Yeah, yeah. 222 00:05:55,211 --> 00:05:56,130 Timothy: Biodiesel. 223 00:05:56,130 --> 00:05:58,810 Timothy: We're going to get the blue diesel eventually. 224 00:05:58,810 --> 00:06:01,610 Timothy: The cool the cool diesel that they have in Europe. 225 00:06:01,649 --> 00:06:02,470 Adam K: I, 226 00:06:01,730 --> 00:06:02,571 Timothy: That's right. 227 00:06:02,269 --> 00:06:06,569 Adam K: I see you have a new router on your bed behind you. 228 00:06:06,531 --> 00:06:07,451 Timothy: Oh, yeah. 229 00:06:07,449 --> 00:06:07,889 Adam K: Are 230 00:06:07,610 --> 00:06:08,091 Timothy: Well, 231 00:06:07,689 --> 00:06:08,050 Adam K: you? 232 00:06:07,891 --> 00:06:08,651 Timothy: it's not a router. 233 00:06:08,651 --> 00:06:10,930 Timothy: This is a let's see. 234 00:06:10,930 --> 00:06:16,730 Timothy: It's a mycotic mycotic cloud switch. 235 00:06:16,970 --> 00:06:17,490 Adam K: Oh. 236 00:06:17,290 --> 00:06:22,771 Timothy: And, uh, yeah, I am changing up from a TP link system because 237 00:06:22,771 --> 00:06:29,011 Timothy: all of that got banned because of Chinese, whatever, whatever 238 00:06:28,209 --> 00:06:29,009 Adam K: Yeah. 239 00:06:28,810 --> 00:06:29,571 Timothy: it is. 240 00:06:30,050 --> 00:06:34,410 Adam K: It's just it's, uh, communism's back and it's bad. 241 00:06:34,410 --> 00:06:36,050 Adam K: Actually, it's. 242 00:06:36,050 --> 00:06:39,430 Adam K: China does capitalism better than us because 243 00:06:38,850 --> 00:06:39,730 Timothy: I know. 244 00:06:39,230 --> 00:06:40,449 Adam K: it uses communism. 245 00:06:40,449 --> 00:06:42,089 Adam K: I don't know, either way, their stuff's 246 00:06:41,730 --> 00:06:42,711 Timothy: In, 247 00:06:41,889 --> 00:06:43,610 Adam K: cheaper and we can't buy it anymore. 248 00:06:43,511 --> 00:06:45,930 Timothy: in little bubbles, it seems 249 00:06:45,529 --> 00:06:46,250 Adam K: Yeah, 250 00:06:45,730 --> 00:06:47,250 Timothy: to work really well, 251 00:06:47,050 --> 00:06:47,850 Adam K: yeah. 252 00:06:47,050 --> 00:06:53,190 Timothy: especially with, uh, with a, uh, a top down approach. 253 00:06:53,190 --> 00:06:53,951 Timothy: Who knows? 254 00:06:54,750 --> 00:06:56,829 Adam K: This is a work mandate or you're 255 00:06:56,829 --> 00:06:58,149 Adam K: doing your personal home lab 256 00:06:58,149 --> 00:06:58,870 Adam K: stuff. 257 00:06:58,670 --> 00:07:00,511 Timothy: Just personal home lab stuff. 258 00:07:00,509 --> 00:07:01,189 Adam K: Yeah. 259 00:07:00,711 --> 00:07:02,350 Timothy: Just making sure that my my. 260 00:07:02,350 --> 00:07:05,430 Timothy: My home lab is nice and secure instead of. 261 00:07:05,430 --> 00:07:10,290 Timothy: Because every other day I had some IP addresses from Singapore 262 00:07:10,290 --> 00:07:14,550 Timothy: poking around in my in my system, and I was just like, I'm 263 00:07:14,550 --> 00:07:16,630 Timothy: sure that Singapore is fine. 264 00:07:16,630 --> 00:07:20,711 Timothy: And that's not exactly China, but I'm, I would be, I'm okay 265 00:07:20,711 --> 00:07:23,591 Timothy: with with getting rid of that and buying something. 266 00:07:23,591 --> 00:07:26,990 Timothy: I think the micro ticks are like Latvian. 267 00:07:26,990 --> 00:07:28,550 Timothy: And if Latvians are creating it, 268 00:07:28,550 --> 00:07:30,370 Timothy: that means that they've done 269 00:07:30,370 --> 00:07:31,990 Timothy: their fair share of defense 270 00:07:31,990 --> 00:07:33,670 Timothy: against Russia. 271 00:07:33,709 --> 00:07:35,470 Adam K: Yeah. Well, 272 00:07:34,790 --> 00:07:36,471 Timothy: So they probably know what they're doing. 273 00:07:36,269 --> 00:07:38,509 Adam K: well, you and I are kindred 274 00:07:38,509 --> 00:07:40,910 Adam K: spirits in that way that I, I've 275 00:07:40,910 --> 00:07:43,430 Adam K: dabbled in the home lab stuff, 276 00:07:43,430 --> 00:07:44,310 Adam K: and I like to do the 277 00:07:44,310 --> 00:07:45,110 Adam K: self-hosting. 278 00:07:45,110 --> 00:07:47,470 Adam K: What, uh, what got you into it? 279 00:07:47,470 --> 00:07:48,430 Adam K: I'm curious. 280 00:07:48,430 --> 00:07:51,310 Adam K: I'm always curious what other people's journeys look like. 281 00:07:51,511 --> 00:07:58,940 Timothy: MM. I had I guess I've always had an interest in, uh, 282 00:07:58,940 --> 00:08:04,800 Timothy: alternate operating systems, more so than probably a lot of 283 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,641 Timothy: my peers who have argued with me incessantly, especially when 284 00:08:07,641 --> 00:08:09,240 Timothy: we're trying to play games. 285 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,040 Timothy: It's like, Tim, why, what's the problem? 286 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,040 Timothy: Is it Linux? 287 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,641 Timothy: Duffield is the problem. 288 00:08:14,641 --> 00:08:18,761 Timothy: Linux again, it's like, you don't understand. 289 00:08:18,730 --> 00:08:19,449 Adam K: So what 290 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:19,461 Timothy: I 291 00:08:19,250 --> 00:08:19,589 Adam K: you 292 00:08:19,261 --> 00:08:19,721 Timothy: just 293 00:08:19,389 --> 00:08:19,769 Adam K: were 294 00:08:19,521 --> 00:08:19,880 Timothy: have 295 00:08:19,569 --> 00:08:20,629 Adam K: using, 296 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:20,761 Timothy: to make this work. 297 00:08:20,430 --> 00:08:22,610 Adam K: you're using Linux before? 298 00:08:22,610 --> 00:08:23,649 Adam K: It was cool. 299 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,321 Timothy: I yeah, I'm a hipster that way. 300 00:08:26,290 --> 00:08:27,009 Adam K: Yeah. 301 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,161 Timothy: Uh, I think it started in grad school. 302 00:08:30,161 --> 00:08:33,921 Timothy: I, I went to grad school. 303 00:08:33,921 --> 00:08:36,760 Timothy: I have a master's degree in applied cognitive psychology. 304 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,841 Timothy: My focus is on human factors, ergonomics and, and the user 305 00:08:40,841 --> 00:08:42,721 Timothy: experience of things. 306 00:08:42,721 --> 00:08:46,260 Timothy: And usually that leads people down the path of, of, of being 307 00:08:46,260 --> 00:08:49,880 Timothy: interested in Macintosh because that is the most easy to use 308 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,740 Timothy: user centric sort of system. 309 00:08:51,669 --> 00:08:52,350 Adam K: Yeah. 310 00:08:52,260 --> 00:08:57,221 Timothy: And yeah, generally is, um, it is nice when things just work. 311 00:08:57,221 --> 00:08:59,860 Timothy: But, uh, I grew up in a family of engineers. 312 00:08:59,860 --> 00:09:03,140 Timothy: Um, I grew up using dos. 313 00:09:03,140 --> 00:09:05,081 Timothy: Uh, that was my first kind of 314 00:09:05,081 --> 00:09:07,301 Timothy: Tandy based system, uh, back in 315 00:09:07,301 --> 00:09:08,221 Timothy: the nineties. 316 00:09:08,221 --> 00:09:12,061 Timothy: And, um, I learned all the 317 00:09:12,061 --> 00:09:14,221 Timothy: commands and learned how to use 318 00:09:14,221 --> 00:09:14,541 Timothy: that. 319 00:09:14,541 --> 00:09:16,581 Timothy: And then all the series of 320 00:09:16,581 --> 00:09:19,160 Timothy: windows came after that, and it 321 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,980 Timothy: just aggravated me to no end of 322 00:09:21,980 --> 00:09:23,701 Timothy: that. 323 00:09:23,701 --> 00:09:28,120 Timothy: All of my tech would just become obsolete at some point, and I 324 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,980 Timothy: couldn't use it anymore when I knew that it still booted 325 00:09:30,980 --> 00:09:32,341 Timothy: because I would take care of it. 326 00:09:32,341 --> 00:09:35,061 Timothy: I'm the kind of guy that reapplies thermal paste when I 327 00:09:35,061 --> 00:09:38,321 Timothy: know it's gone out because 328 00:09:37,909 --> 00:09:38,350 Adam K: I 329 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:38,961 Timothy: I, 330 00:09:38,149 --> 00:09:39,350 Adam K: know you're kind. 331 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,061 Timothy: I know where it sits. 332 00:09:41,061 --> 00:09:43,660 Timothy: Uh, because I can take it apart and put it back together. 333 00:09:43,830 --> 00:09:44,570 Adam K: Yeah, 334 00:09:44,260 --> 00:09:44,860 Timothy: Um. 335 00:09:44,370 --> 00:09:47,429 Adam K: well, that's that's blessed of you to be around engineers. 336 00:09:47,429 --> 00:09:50,169 Adam K: I was just around a bunch of, like, dabblers who would give up 337 00:09:50,169 --> 00:09:51,570 Adam K: on stuff if it didn't work. 338 00:09:51,570 --> 00:09:53,690 Adam K: So I feel like that affected me in 339 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:53,801 Timothy: I 340 00:09:53,490 --> 00:09:54,169 Adam K: a negative 341 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:54,240 Timothy: do a lot 342 00:09:53,970 --> 00:09:54,490 Adam K: way. 343 00:09:54,041 --> 00:09:54,801 Timothy: of that too. 344 00:09:54,801 --> 00:09:55,520 Timothy: I do a lot 345 00:09:55,210 --> 00:09:55,850 Adam K: Yeah. 346 00:09:55,321 --> 00:09:56,640 Timothy: of that too, for sure. 347 00:09:56,690 --> 00:09:59,570 Adam K: I mean, like I, I had heard of Linux from I'm trying to think 348 00:09:59,570 --> 00:10:03,129 Adam K: this is around the time the Dreamcast was a, a thing. 349 00:10:03,129 --> 00:10:06,090 Adam K: And I there was a overweight dude who had graduated high 350 00:10:06,090 --> 00:10:07,809 Adam K: school way before any of us. 351 00:10:07,809 --> 00:10:12,289 Adam K: And he would talk to us about things like VM use and Linux and 352 00:10:12,289 --> 00:10:12,809 Adam K: stuff like that. 353 00:10:12,809 --> 00:10:13,809 Adam K: I was like, that sounds great. 354 00:10:13,809 --> 00:10:15,929 Adam K: And then I had not heard about 355 00:10:15,929 --> 00:10:18,769 Adam K: it until I think like the steam 356 00:10:18,769 --> 00:10:20,809 Adam K: machine, you know, years later 357 00:10:20,809 --> 00:10:21,970 Adam K: when it's like, okay, now 358 00:10:21,970 --> 00:10:22,769 Adam K: Valve's pushing. 359 00:10:22,769 --> 00:10:24,490 Adam K: I was like, oh yeah, I remember that Linux thing. 360 00:10:24,490 --> 00:10:25,090 Adam K: What is that? 361 00:10:25,090 --> 00:10:28,409 Adam K: Not realizing that the entire world's infrastructure and 362 00:10:28,409 --> 00:10:31,850 Adam K: internet has been running on this thing quietly ever since. 363 00:10:31,850 --> 00:10:34,850 Adam K: You know, things have been growing, but you were there. 364 00:10:34,850 --> 00:10:36,330 Adam K: You understood it. 365 00:10:36,330 --> 00:10:38,370 Adam K: Like, I guess, what was it back then? 366 00:10:38,370 --> 00:10:39,809 Adam K: Red hat or something? 367 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,921 Timothy: Um, I think the first one that I probably used seriously was 368 00:10:44,921 --> 00:10:47,360 Timothy: right when ubuntu was starting to come out. 369 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:48,221 Timothy: Um, 370 00:10:47,370 --> 00:10:48,049 Adam K: Mhm. 371 00:10:48,020 --> 00:10:51,020 Timothy: it's just a Debian based version of Linux. 372 00:10:51,020 --> 00:10:56,520 Timothy: Is ubuntu, except it's backed by a major company called canonical 373 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:57,941 Timothy: in the UK. 374 00:10:57,941 --> 00:11:02,640 Timothy: And um, they've done a really, really great job of 375 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:09,260 Timothy: commercializing the use of Linux and, and, uh, there's a ton of, 376 00:11:09,260 --> 00:11:14,660 Timothy: of weight and, and backing on that side of it, uh, towards 377 00:11:14,660 --> 00:11:18,020 Timothy: developing for, for Linux. 378 00:11:18,020 --> 00:11:21,061 Timothy: And I think that ubuntu does a really good job for that. 379 00:11:21,061 --> 00:11:22,860 Timothy: It gets a lot of people started. 380 00:11:22,860 --> 00:11:23,880 Timothy: Um, 381 00:11:22,950 --> 00:11:23,590 Adam K: Yeah. 382 00:11:23,681 --> 00:11:26,660 Timothy: and yeah, I had 383 00:11:26,389 --> 00:11:26,710 Adam K: I 384 00:11:26,461 --> 00:11:26,740 Timothy: it 385 00:11:26,509 --> 00:11:27,450 Adam K: mean, 386 00:11:26,541 --> 00:11:28,701 Timothy: on all my stuff in grad school for sure. 387 00:11:28,250 --> 00:11:34,190 Adam K: I'll say like before Zoran or, uh, Cassius or I guess like. 388 00:11:34,190 --> 00:11:34,870 Adam K: Arch. 389 00:11:34,870 --> 00:11:35,429 Adam K: Arch. 390 00:11:35,429 --> 00:11:35,870 Adam K: Arch. 391 00:11:35,870 --> 00:11:36,149 Adam K: Arch. 392 00:11:36,149 --> 00:11:36,509 Adam K: Linux. 393 00:11:36,509 --> 00:11:38,129 Adam K: Now, before any of that, like 394 00:11:38,129 --> 00:11:39,789 Adam K: ubuntu was like, it was the 395 00:11:39,789 --> 00:11:41,090 Adam K: closest thing to like Mac OS 396 00:11:41,090 --> 00:11:42,690 Adam K: that you can get on a PC 397 00:11:42,690 --> 00:11:43,190 Adam K: basically. 398 00:11:43,190 --> 00:11:44,549 Adam K: Because back then it was, or at 399 00:11:44,549 --> 00:11:45,970 Adam K: least when I used it, it was 400 00:11:45,970 --> 00:11:48,000 Adam K: like Vista was coming out, 401 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:48,419 Adam K: right? 402 00:11:48,419 --> 00:11:48,980 Adam K: And we're 403 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:49,360 Timothy: Yeah. 404 00:11:48,779 --> 00:11:50,179 Adam K: like, what is what is this crap? 405 00:11:50,179 --> 00:11:52,139 Adam K: And then, yeah, dabbled with 406 00:11:52,139 --> 00:11:53,100 Adam K: ubuntu and you're like, oh, this 407 00:11:53,100 --> 00:11:53,980 Adam K: is actually a really nice, clean 408 00:11:53,980 --> 00:11:54,340 Adam K: interface. 409 00:11:54,340 --> 00:11:56,620 Adam K: I don't know how to run applications on here. 410 00:11:56,620 --> 00:11:59,220 Adam K: Um, but now today, it's like so 411 00:11:59,220 --> 00:12:00,580 Adam K: much easier to do any of that 412 00:12:00,580 --> 00:12:00,899 Adam K: stuff. 413 00:12:00,899 --> 00:12:03,700 Adam K: So, you know, you could, you could double click an app image 414 00:12:03,700 --> 00:12:06,460 Adam K: and it works so strange. 415 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,081 Timothy: Right. 416 00:12:07,081 --> 00:12:07,600 Timothy: So you 417 00:12:07,299 --> 00:12:07,899 Adam K: Yeah. 418 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,760 Timothy: have to kind of separate the the 419 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,360 Timothy: visual experience of what you're 420 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,181 Timothy: using on Linux with the, the 421 00:12:15,181 --> 00:12:17,081 Timothy: back end of, of the architecture 422 00:12:17,081 --> 00:12:18,600 Timothy: of Linux. 423 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,640 Timothy: Uh, like how you said arch arch is actually ancient. 424 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,000 Timothy: It's been around a long time ago. 425 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,181 Timothy: Uh, if you talk to a bunch of old arch guys, they're, they're 426 00:12:28,181 --> 00:12:31,441 Timothy: going to say, oh, you don't, you don't actually use real arch. 427 00:12:31,441 --> 00:12:33,321 Timothy: You don't have to build it yourself. 428 00:12:33,379 --> 00:12:33,980 Adam K: Uh. 429 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,441 Timothy: Because arch used to be because 430 00:12:35,441 --> 00:12:38,921 Timothy: it is the community built, 431 00:12:38,921 --> 00:12:41,400 Timothy: community distributed. 432 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,441 Timothy: That's the community choice. 433 00:12:43,441 --> 00:12:46,551 Timothy: And, and why it has so much momentum right now is it's, it's 434 00:12:46,551 --> 00:12:48,341 Timothy: all community developed. 435 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:49,240 Adam K: Mhm. 436 00:12:48,620 --> 00:12:51,421 Timothy: Um, it's been around forever and ever. 437 00:12:51,421 --> 00:12:53,380 Timothy: So one is Debian. 438 00:12:53,380 --> 00:12:55,701 Timothy: Uh, another is Fedora. 439 00:12:55,701 --> 00:12:59,341 Timothy: Uh, another is arch. 440 00:12:59,759 --> 00:13:00,679 Adam K: There's 441 00:12:59,900 --> 00:13:00,721 Timothy: Uh, 442 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:01,320 Adam K: what? 443 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:01,421 Timothy: but there's 444 00:13:01,159 --> 00:13:01,519 Adam K: Uh, 445 00:13:01,221 --> 00:13:01,660 Timothy: a lot 446 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:02,039 Adam K: not 447 00:13:01,461 --> 00:13:03,020 Timothy: of different flavors of arch. 448 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,159 Adam K: was it gnome or is genome or whatever it is, but that's just 449 00:13:06,159 --> 00:13:07,940 Adam K: like the that's 450 00:13:06,941 --> 00:13:08,000 Timothy: Gnome is 451 00:13:07,740 --> 00:13:08,399 Adam K: that's 452 00:13:07,801 --> 00:13:08,600 Timothy: gnome is 453 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:08,799 Adam K: just 454 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,900 Timothy: a window manager. 455 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,559 Adam K: yeah, that's not the actual. 456 00:13:11,140 --> 00:13:14,020 Timothy: That's like your user experience of how it is that you would 457 00:13:14,020 --> 00:13:15,620 Timothy: interact with that system. 458 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,799 Adam K: Yeah. And then like Mac is built on what is it? 459 00:13:18,799 --> 00:13:19,879 Adam K: FreeBSD. 460 00:13:21,660 --> 00:13:25,380 Timothy: I believe it is a Unix based system. 461 00:13:25,380 --> 00:13:26,020 Timothy: But. 462 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,240 Adam K: It has since gone its own way. 463 00:13:29,301 --> 00:13:30,181 Timothy: Yeah. 464 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,399 Adam K: So much so that it's it's only like, because there's still like 465 00:13:33,399 --> 00:13:38,220 Adam K: if you dig into your Mac's hard drive, it still does resemble 466 00:13:38,220 --> 00:13:43,919 Adam K: like you see folders like Mount and var and these things that 467 00:13:43,919 --> 00:13:45,000 Adam K: you will be very 468 00:13:44,701 --> 00:13:45,020 Timothy: It 469 00:13:44,799 --> 00:13:45,799 Adam K: confused. 470 00:13:44,821 --> 00:13:46,380 Timothy: was a system convention that 471 00:13:46,380 --> 00:13:47,961 Timothy: that has withstood the test of 472 00:13:47,961 --> 00:13:48,520 Timothy: time. 473 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,441 Timothy: And so for all of these systems 474 00:13:50,441 --> 00:13:52,341 Timothy: to interact, they all need to 475 00:13:52,341 --> 00:13:54,160 Timothy: kind of understand this basic 476 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,400 Timothy: system convention. 477 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:55,961 Timothy: And so 478 00:13:55,620 --> 00:13:56,299 Adam K: Mhm. 479 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,701 Timothy: they all have the NTE and VAR and etc. 480 00:13:59,179 --> 00:13:59,820 Adam K: Yeah. 481 00:13:59,500 --> 00:14:00,801 Timothy: and things like that. 482 00:14:00,659 --> 00:14:01,419 Adam K: Yeah. 483 00:14:00,681 --> 00:14:01,201 Timothy: Yeah. 484 00:14:01,580 --> 00:14:05,700 Adam K: Like, if you even go back to the oldest, uh, I think it was, was 485 00:14:05,700 --> 00:14:08,740 Adam K: Mac OS ten or X, whatever you want to call it. 486 00:14:08,740 --> 00:14:11,379 Adam K: When Steve Jobs was showing it off, he even called it like it's 487 00:14:11,379 --> 00:14:12,899 Adam K: a Linux like interface. 488 00:14:12,899 --> 00:14:16,379 Adam K: Um, like it was, they were very upfront about the fact that they 489 00:14:16,379 --> 00:14:19,299 Adam K: were like picking back up, piggybacking off of Linux, which 490 00:14:19,299 --> 00:14:22,299 Adam K: is like, but then again, you know, I was one of those, I was 491 00:14:22,299 --> 00:14:23,059 Adam K: a video editor. 492 00:14:23,059 --> 00:14:27,220 Adam K: So that's why I went to Mac was, oh, I need to use Final Cut 493 00:14:27,220 --> 00:14:31,139 Adam K: because this is the best editing program for a prosumer. 494 00:14:31,139 --> 00:14:33,820 Adam K: So that's, I was like, okay, I guess I have to learn Mac again. 495 00:14:33,820 --> 00:14:36,379 Adam K: I was like, oh, it's actually it's all glass and pretty now, 496 00:14:36,379 --> 00:14:40,039 Adam K: which I guess was just borrowing heavily from BSD or, you know, 497 00:14:40,039 --> 00:14:43,179 Adam K: whatever the the prime Linux candidate was back then. 498 00:14:43,860 --> 00:14:50,380 Timothy: Probably no. GNOME is probably the most Mac like thing that's 499 00:14:50,380 --> 00:14:51,260 Timothy: out right now. 500 00:14:51,260 --> 00:14:55,221 Timothy: And and it, it definitely resembles with the, with the 501 00:14:55,221 --> 00:14:56,020 Timothy: dock, the bottom. 502 00:14:56,020 --> 00:14:57,100 Timothy: All of your applications that 503 00:14:57,100 --> 00:14:59,301 Timothy: are running and, and you just 504 00:14:59,301 --> 00:15:00,980 Timothy: type an application you want and 505 00:15:00,980 --> 00:15:02,020 Timothy: it brings it right up, things 506 00:15:02,020 --> 00:15:02,380 Timothy: like that. 507 00:15:02,380 --> 00:15:04,821 Timothy: I'm actually running on GNOME right now. 508 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,139 Adam K: Yeah, we 509 00:15:05,541 --> 00:15:06,140 Timothy: It's just 510 00:15:05,940 --> 00:15:06,279 Adam K: were 511 00:15:05,941 --> 00:15:06,500 Timothy: easy. 512 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:06,559 Adam K: talking. 513 00:15:06,559 --> 00:15:07,559 Adam K: We were talking earlier. 514 00:15:07,559 --> 00:15:12,600 Adam K: And I guess you were using that Ryukyu, uh, hyper 515 00:15:11,740 --> 00:15:12,260 Timothy: Yeah. 516 00:15:12,399 --> 00:15:15,399 Adam K: land thing that I was kind of messing around with. 517 00:15:15,399 --> 00:15:19,320 Adam K: How's and how's how's your experience with that been? 518 00:15:20,100 --> 00:15:21,701 Timothy: Uh, like anything that's still 519 00:15:21,701 --> 00:15:24,181 Timothy: in beta, it has its, it has its 520 00:15:24,181 --> 00:15:25,380 Timothy: limitations. 521 00:15:25,380 --> 00:15:26,600 Timothy: Uh, plus, 522 00:15:25,559 --> 00:15:26,200 Adam K: Yeah. 523 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:31,221 Timothy: whenever I really want to become really smooth and, and 524 00:15:31,221 --> 00:15:36,900 Timothy: understand, um, using a tiling manager type desktop because I 525 00:15:36,900 --> 00:15:40,400 Timothy: think it's, it makes me feel like I'm Tom cruise in that, in 526 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,240 Timothy: that, uh, what is the minority Report and just 527 00:15:43,860 --> 00:15:44,259 Adam K: I was 528 00:15:44,041 --> 00:15:44,480 Timothy: moving 529 00:15:44,059 --> 00:15:44,600 Adam K: gonna say 530 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:44,681 Timothy: things 531 00:15:44,399 --> 00:15:45,340 Adam K: Magnolia, 532 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:45,160 Timothy: around. 533 00:15:45,139 --> 00:15:45,340 Adam K: but. 534 00:15:45,340 --> 00:15:47,659 Adam K: Yes. Yeah. 535 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,160 Timothy: Yeah, the one in Magnolia. 536 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,160 Timothy: Uh, but he's moving, uh, his 537 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,480 Timothy: interface around and, um, it 538 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,961 Timothy: just, it seems like it could be 539 00:15:56,961 --> 00:15:59,760 Timothy: faster, but the, the, the part 540 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,660 Timothy: where my muscle memory kicks in 541 00:16:01,660 --> 00:16:02,961 Timothy: is I still want to grab the 542 00:16:02,961 --> 00:16:03,921 Timothy: mouse 543 00:16:03,700 --> 00:16:04,419 Adam K: Yeah. 544 00:16:03,721 --> 00:16:06,081 Timothy: and I still want to interact with it. 545 00:16:06,081 --> 00:16:11,041 Timothy: And if you give me even one beer, then I forget it all. 546 00:16:11,041 --> 00:16:14,640 Timothy: And, and I'm, I'm in the manual looking up anything? 547 00:16:14,620 --> 00:16:16,139 Adam K: Yeah, yeah. 548 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:16,201 Timothy: Yeah. 549 00:16:15,980 --> 00:16:17,659 Adam K: I'm. I'm with you there. 550 00:16:17,659 --> 00:16:20,740 Adam K: Like I like, I think we as 551 00:16:20,740 --> 00:16:22,419 Adam K: people are just naturally 552 00:16:22,419 --> 00:16:23,460 Adam K: disorganized. 553 00:16:23,460 --> 00:16:26,059 Adam K: And there is something nice. 554 00:16:26,059 --> 00:16:28,899 Adam K: I mean, like right now I can, for some reason I have Zoom on 555 00:16:28,899 --> 00:16:29,980 Adam K: top of ChatGPT. 556 00:16:29,980 --> 00:16:31,500 Adam K: I'm using neither application, 557 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:33,539 Adam K: but it's just sitting on one of 558 00:16:33,539 --> 00:16:36,299 Adam K: my giant monitors in a tiling 559 00:16:36,299 --> 00:16:36,860 Adam K: manager. 560 00:16:36,860 --> 00:16:38,100 Adam K: It would all be neatly there, 561 00:16:38,100 --> 00:16:39,740 Adam K: except I have so many stupid 562 00:16:39,740 --> 00:16:40,860 Adam K: windows open like I have a 563 00:16:40,860 --> 00:16:42,149 Adam K: terminal window open for no 564 00:16:42,149 --> 00:16:43,279 Adam K: reason. 565 00:16:43,279 --> 00:16:44,519 Adam K: It would all be tiled and there 566 00:16:44,519 --> 00:16:45,799 Adam K: wouldn't be much room and it 567 00:16:45,799 --> 00:16:47,000 Adam K: would just look nice, but it 568 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,159 Adam K: would just still be a mess of 569 00:16:48,159 --> 00:16:48,639 Adam K: crap. 570 00:16:48,639 --> 00:16:49,559 Adam K: So 571 00:16:49,100 --> 00:16:49,821 Timothy: Right? 572 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,480 Adam K: it's like these two competing ideas are fighting each other. 573 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,200 Adam K: And I guess if you are more of 574 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,519 Adam K: an organized person, it makes 575 00:16:56,519 --> 00:16:56,720 Adam K: sense. 576 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:57,879 Adam K: But yeah, I'm with you where I'm 577 00:16:57,879 --> 00:17:00,159 Adam K: like, I want that beautiful ease 578 00:17:00,159 --> 00:17:00,480 Adam K: of use. 579 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,159 Adam K: But then I'm like, well, fuck, how do I open this? 580 00:17:03,159 --> 00:17:07,920 Adam K: You know, with Nintendo Switch emulator full screen, I the menu 581 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,799 Adam K: is gone or now it's yeah, like you said, it's in beta, so it's 582 00:17:11,181 --> 00:17:11,901 Timothy: Yeah. 583 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:12,720 Adam K: still wacky, but. 584 00:17:12,300 --> 00:17:14,221 Timothy: And you can still kind of get at it with. 585 00:17:14,221 --> 00:17:16,941 Timothy: I'm glad that it leaves you the option for the cursor. 586 00:17:16,941 --> 00:17:19,681 Timothy: And I think that they've done a really good job with it there 587 00:17:19,681 --> 00:17:25,161 Timothy: and where they've done better than what, what I, what I say 588 00:17:25,161 --> 00:17:32,601 Timothy: like Omachi is right now is it feels at least a little bit more 589 00:17:32,601 --> 00:17:34,980 Timothy: towards an adult aesthetic. 590 00:17:34,980 --> 00:17:42,161 Timothy: Omachi to me feels like you ever ridden in in a Chevy Camaro that 591 00:17:42,161 --> 00:17:43,921 Timothy: was made in the two thousand. 592 00:17:43,921 --> 00:17:44,421 Timothy: It kind 593 00:17:44,059 --> 00:17:44,900 Adam K: Oh, 594 00:17:44,221 --> 00:17:45,201 Timothy: of feels like 595 00:17:44,700 --> 00:17:45,779 Adam K: yeah. 596 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:45,921 Timothy: the Batmobile. 597 00:17:45,921 --> 00:17:47,961 Timothy: It's made for a sixteen year old. 598 00:17:47,940 --> 00:17:49,099 Adam K: Mhm. Cheerleader? 599 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:49,320 Timothy: It's 600 00:17:48,940 --> 00:17:49,380 Adam K: No. 601 00:17:49,121 --> 00:17:49,721 Timothy: not. 602 00:17:49,220 --> 00:17:50,380 Adam K: Well, there's the Mustang, 603 00:17:49,921 --> 00:17:50,480 Timothy: Or. 604 00:17:50,180 --> 00:17:50,740 Adam K: but. 605 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:51,721 Timothy: Or cheerleader. 606 00:17:51,420 --> 00:17:52,059 Adam K: Yeah. 607 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:52,520 Timothy: Yeah, exactly. 608 00:17:52,140 --> 00:17:52,779 Adam K: Yeah. 609 00:17:52,921 --> 00:17:57,201 Timothy: It it doesn't feel like an a an adult's car. 610 00:17:57,201 --> 00:17:59,300 Timothy: It doesn't feel like an A. I 611 00:17:59,300 --> 00:18:02,381 Timothy: know that it has the capability, 612 00:18:02,381 --> 00:18:03,461 Timothy: but it 613 00:18:03,059 --> 00:18:03,880 Adam K: That's 614 00:18:03,260 --> 00:18:03,941 Timothy: it 615 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:04,140 Adam K: that's 616 00:18:03,740 --> 00:18:04,300 Timothy: there's 617 00:18:03,940 --> 00:18:04,319 Adam K: kind 618 00:18:04,101 --> 00:18:04,441 Timothy: a 619 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:04,579 Adam K: of how 620 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,201 Timothy: childishness 621 00:18:04,380 --> 00:18:04,900 Adam K: I. 622 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:05,760 Timothy: to it. 623 00:18:05,259 --> 00:18:07,259 Adam K: That's kind of how I feel about the ryoku. 624 00:18:07,259 --> 00:18:08,579 Adam K: Unless we're talking about the 625 00:18:08,361 --> 00:18:08,721 Timothy: A 626 00:18:08,380 --> 00:18:08,779 Adam K: same 627 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:08,941 Timothy: little 628 00:18:08,579 --> 00:18:09,059 Adam K: thing. 629 00:18:08,740 --> 00:18:09,161 Timothy: bit. 630 00:18:09,161 --> 00:18:09,800 Timothy: Yeah. 631 00:18:09,220 --> 00:18:10,140 Adam K: Yeah, yeah. 632 00:18:09,641 --> 00:18:10,740 Timothy: No, definitely 633 00:18:10,500 --> 00:18:10,980 Adam K: Okay. 634 00:18:10,540 --> 00:18:11,441 Timothy: it does. 635 00:18:10,779 --> 00:18:11,579 Adam K: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 636 00:18:11,579 --> 00:18:15,380 Adam K: It feels like this is what a teenager thinks is cool. 637 00:18:15,441 --> 00:18:16,121 Timothy: Yeah. 638 00:18:15,619 --> 00:18:16,700 Adam K: Um, yeah. 639 00:18:16,700 --> 00:18:19,339 Adam K: And it's like I, I don't know. 640 00:18:19,339 --> 00:18:19,539 Adam K: Yeah. 641 00:18:19,539 --> 00:18:22,019 Adam K: Hyper land is almost, there's too much like setup. 642 00:18:22,019 --> 00:18:26,099 Adam K: Then again, like you can just run Claude on your system now 643 00:18:26,099 --> 00:18:28,900 Adam K: and just say, I want you to do this and it will just build it 644 00:18:28,900 --> 00:18:29,299 Adam K: out for you. 645 00:18:29,299 --> 00:18:32,099 Adam K: So maybe I'll just revert to that. 646 00:18:32,099 --> 00:18:33,380 Adam K: Um, 647 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,381 Timothy: I've been doing a ton of that with Hermes and, 648 00:18:34,180 --> 00:18:35,099 Adam K: yeah. 649 00:18:35,099 --> 00:18:35,559 Adam K: Oh, 650 00:18:35,181 --> 00:18:36,181 Timothy: and 651 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:36,220 Adam K: so yeah, I 652 00:18:35,980 --> 00:18:36,300 Timothy: I 653 00:18:36,019 --> 00:18:36,480 Adam K: want 654 00:18:36,101 --> 00:18:36,560 Timothy: have 655 00:18:36,279 --> 00:18:36,740 Adam K: to. 656 00:18:36,361 --> 00:18:39,121 Timothy: a lot of, I have a lot of, uh, luck with Grock. 657 00:18:39,121 --> 00:18:40,211 Timothy: So 658 00:18:39,809 --> 00:18:40,529 Adam K: Yeah. 659 00:18:40,010 --> 00:18:40,800 Timothy: I 660 00:18:40,529 --> 00:18:40,930 Adam K: Yeah. 661 00:18:40,601 --> 00:18:41,101 Timothy: don't 662 00:18:40,769 --> 00:18:41,250 Adam K: Aaron 663 00:18:40,901 --> 00:18:42,000 Timothy: have 664 00:18:41,049 --> 00:18:41,809 Adam K: was saying. 665 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,421 Timothy: I don't have cloud enterprise. 666 00:18:44,421 --> 00:18:48,721 Timothy: I do have some super grok that that I exhaust my credits out, 667 00:18:48,721 --> 00:18:50,580 Timothy: uh, near constantly. 668 00:18:50,650 --> 00:18:51,329 Adam K: Yeah. 669 00:18:50,701 --> 00:18:55,381 Timothy: Uh, and then I keep a subscription to news research. 670 00:18:55,381 --> 00:18:58,941 Timothy: And so they gave, they gave me an access to lots of different 671 00:18:58,941 --> 00:18:59,701 Timothy: types of models. 672 00:18:59,701 --> 00:19:04,320 Timothy: So whenever, whenever that runs out, I do Nimatron, which is 673 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:11,340 Timothy: like Nvidia or, uh, there's another one called, oh, there's 674 00:19:11,340 --> 00:19:11,820 Timothy: some other ones. 675 00:19:11,820 --> 00:19:12,980 Timothy: We'll just say that. 676 00:19:12,650 --> 00:19:17,089 Adam K: This is like the Fight club of models I've never heard of. 677 00:19:17,089 --> 00:19:21,730 Adam K: Like you're you're in the dark web of I. Where do you go? 678 00:19:21,730 --> 00:19:22,930 Adam K: Nude sites. 679 00:19:23,060 --> 00:19:24,461 Timothy: Yeah, exactly. 680 00:19:23,890 --> 00:19:25,089 Adam K: Yeah. Okay. 681 00:19:24,621 --> 00:19:27,861 Timothy: News, news, research, n o u s the French 682 00:19:27,490 --> 00:19:28,250 Adam K: This, 683 00:19:27,661 --> 00:19:28,300 Timothy: word. 684 00:19:28,049 --> 00:19:28,970 Adam K: this is going to be like the 685 00:19:28,970 --> 00:19:30,490 Adam K: time when I was a kid and I went 686 00:19:30,490 --> 00:19:32,650 Adam K: to wrestling dot com and I did 687 00:19:32,650 --> 00:19:33,650 Adam K: notice about wrestling, so I 688 00:19:33,650 --> 00:19:34,970 Adam K: didn't put a T so immediately 689 00:19:34,970 --> 00:19:37,549 Adam K: went to a porno site on, uh, the 690 00:19:37,549 --> 00:19:38,849 Adam K: Camp Pendleton. 691 00:19:40,430 --> 00:19:41,750 Adam K: local internet. 692 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,941 Timothy: What whatever they still allow 693 00:19:43,941 --> 00:19:47,520 Timothy: on on the school's ISP is what 694 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,961 Timothy: we would click on in the 695 00:19:48,961 --> 00:19:50,800 Timothy: computer lab and then print it 696 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:51,161 Timothy: out. 697 00:19:51,161 --> 00:19:52,601 Timothy: And perfect. 698 00:19:52,349 --> 00:19:52,910 Adam K: We 699 00:19:52,401 --> 00:19:53,121 Timothy: That was 700 00:19:52,710 --> 00:19:53,390 Adam K: had. 701 00:19:52,921 --> 00:19:56,000 Timothy: back before they tracked everything because my nephew 702 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,161 Timothy: just got in trouble for just googling something stupid, so. 703 00:19:58,950 --> 00:19:59,549 Adam K: Really? 704 00:19:59,549 --> 00:20:00,109 Adam K: Wow. 705 00:19:59,881 --> 00:20:00,560 Timothy: Oh, yeah. 706 00:20:00,589 --> 00:20:03,670 Adam K: I mean, the way we did it was we 707 00:20:03,670 --> 00:20:05,069 Adam K: had PowerPoint, like an early 708 00:20:05,069 --> 00:20:06,269 Adam K: version of windows ninety five 709 00:20:06,269 --> 00:20:07,349 Adam K: PowerPoint. 710 00:20:07,349 --> 00:20:09,509 Adam K: And someone in there said, you 711 00:20:09,509 --> 00:20:11,509 Adam K: know, you can like you can link 712 00:20:11,509 --> 00:20:13,349 Adam K: to an application within there, 713 00:20:13,349 --> 00:20:14,430 Adam K: you can have like a start 714 00:20:14,430 --> 00:20:15,269 Adam K: button. 715 00:20:15,269 --> 00:20:16,529 Adam K: And that way you can get around 716 00:20:16,529 --> 00:20:18,869 Adam K: the whatever the schools, uh, 717 00:20:18,869 --> 00:20:20,309 Adam K: you know, nanny filter or 718 00:20:20,309 --> 00:20:20,630 Adam K: whatever. 719 00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:24,549 Adam K: So it's like we did it to play solitaire during, 720 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:24,800 Timothy: Exactly. 721 00:20:24,349 --> 00:20:26,869 Adam K: during the keyboarding class. 722 00:20:26,869 --> 00:20:29,390 Adam K: Uh, supposed to be learning how to type, but no, we wanted to 723 00:20:29,390 --> 00:20:30,869 Adam K: play with cards. 724 00:20:30,869 --> 00:20:32,549 Adam K: So but now. 725 00:20:32,549 --> 00:20:32,910 Adam K: Yeah. 726 00:20:32,910 --> 00:20:33,430 Adam K: So now 727 00:20:33,161 --> 00:20:33,601 Timothy: Who 728 00:20:33,230 --> 00:20:33,710 Adam K: your 729 00:20:33,401 --> 00:20:33,881 Timothy: needs 730 00:20:33,509 --> 00:20:34,390 Adam K: nephew's. 731 00:20:33,681 --> 00:20:34,601 Timothy: to type? 732 00:20:34,750 --> 00:20:38,730 Adam K: Yeah. Why was your nephew going to four chan during school hours 733 00:20:38,730 --> 00:20:39,890 Adam K: is the question. 734 00:20:39,861 --> 00:20:41,421 Timothy: Well, I think they had just had 735 00:20:41,421 --> 00:20:42,580 Timothy: a school assembly where they 736 00:20:42,580 --> 00:20:45,560 Timothy: told them not to, uh, not to 737 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,580 Timothy: type anything that could be 738 00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:48,941 Timothy: considered. 739 00:20:48,941 --> 00:20:52,221 Timothy: And he, uh, not to be considered 740 00:20:52,221 --> 00:20:53,901 Timothy: as, as anything threatening or 741 00:20:53,901 --> 00:20:55,740 Timothy: anything suspicious. 742 00:20:55,740 --> 00:20:56,780 Timothy: And of course, he and his 743 00:20:56,780 --> 00:20:58,461 Timothy: friends thought about all of 744 00:20:58,461 --> 00:20:59,941 Timothy: those things. 745 00:20:59,941 --> 00:21:04,901 Timothy: And then he went and typed in how to make a bomb bay sandwich. 746 00:21:04,901 --> 00:21:06,701 Timothy: And it has 747 00:21:06,170 --> 00:21:06,730 Adam K: MM. 748 00:21:06,500 --> 00:21:08,980 Timothy: him and his cursor hovering over a bomb bay sandwich. 749 00:21:08,980 --> 00:21:10,740 Timothy: But he knew that it would be picked up. 750 00:21:10,890 --> 00:21:12,609 Adam K: Yeah. Damn. 751 00:21:12,780 --> 00:21:14,820 Timothy: Yeah, he's too smart for his own good. 752 00:21:14,930 --> 00:21:20,009 Adam K: Yeah. I mean, in our day to, the word bomb meant good. 753 00:21:20,221 --> 00:21:20,820 Timothy: Yeah. 754 00:21:20,609 --> 00:21:22,029 Adam K: You know, that's 755 00:21:21,260 --> 00:21:22,260 Timothy: You the bomb? 756 00:21:21,829 --> 00:21:24,529 Adam K: you bomb dot com, you know. 757 00:21:24,060 --> 00:21:24,780 Timothy: Bomb, madam. 758 00:21:24,780 --> 00:21:25,300 Timothy: You 759 00:21:24,890 --> 00:21:25,589 Adam K: Yeah. Thank 760 00:21:25,101 --> 00:21:25,661 Timothy: bomb! 761 00:21:25,390 --> 00:21:25,609 Adam K: you. 762 00:21:25,609 --> 00:21:28,410 Adam K: Yeah. I'll see you at Ebaum's world. 763 00:21:28,421 --> 00:21:29,340 Timothy: Oh, yeah. 764 00:21:29,250 --> 00:21:30,690 Adam K: That's where the good videos are. 765 00:21:30,690 --> 00:21:31,450 Adam K: I wanted to 766 00:21:31,141 --> 00:21:31,661 Timothy: Yeah. 767 00:21:31,250 --> 00:21:33,150 Adam K: ask you actually about Hermes 768 00:21:33,150 --> 00:21:34,410 Adam K: because I got it running over 769 00:21:34,410 --> 00:21:34,809 Adam K: the weekend. 770 00:21:34,809 --> 00:21:36,130 Adam K: I got it in a Docker container 771 00:21:36,130 --> 00:21:38,190 Adam K: running on my my little Unraid 772 00:21:38,190 --> 00:21:40,150 Adam K: server because I don't trust it, 773 00:21:40,150 --> 00:21:41,869 Adam K: even though I probably need a 774 00:21:41,869 --> 00:21:42,349 Adam K: sandbox. 775 00:21:42,349 --> 00:21:45,430 Adam K: It even further, probably in its own VM or something like that 776 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:45,740 Timothy: I 777 00:21:45,230 --> 00:21:45,910 Adam K: because 778 00:21:45,540 --> 00:21:46,601 Timothy: just let it go? 779 00:21:46,710 --> 00:21:48,630 Adam K: okay, yeah, there's a part of me 780 00:21:48,630 --> 00:21:50,769 Adam K: that it's like, you know what, 781 00:21:50,769 --> 00:21:51,630 Adam K: probation's 782 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:51,760 Timothy: I don't know. 783 00:21:51,430 --> 00:21:51,789 Adam K: over. 784 00:21:51,789 --> 00:21:53,789 Adam K: You didn't break anything within thirty minutes. 785 00:21:53,789 --> 00:21:54,789 Adam K: Have access to everything. 786 00:21:54,789 --> 00:21:55,670 Adam K: Who cares? 787 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,760 Timothy: Exactly. I'm I'm kind of of the opinion now. 788 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,121 Timothy: It's like it's inevitable anyway. 789 00:22:01,121 --> 00:22:03,921 Timothy: And I break things near constantly. 790 00:22:03,921 --> 00:22:08,040 Timothy: I can't imagine that you could do worse than I can do, 791 00:22:08,029 --> 00:22:09,670 Adam K: I believe 792 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:09,861 Timothy: so go for 793 00:22:09,470 --> 00:22:10,109 Adam K: you me, 794 00:22:09,661 --> 00:22:10,121 Timothy: it. 795 00:22:09,910 --> 00:22:13,829 Adam K: I am, I am specifically known for breaking things. 796 00:22:13,829 --> 00:22:14,609 Adam K: Uh, 797 00:22:14,161 --> 00:22:15,721 Timothy: But that's how you learn to fix it. 798 00:22:15,410 --> 00:22:16,269 Adam K: yeah. 799 00:22:16,269 --> 00:22:20,829 Adam K: Yes. I remember going to my uncle's house and downloading. 800 00:22:20,829 --> 00:22:23,230 Adam K: I think it was like the Swat three demo, and I somehow 801 00:22:23,230 --> 00:22:24,750 Adam K: crashed his entire computer. 802 00:22:24,750 --> 00:22:25,430 Adam K: I don't know 803 00:22:25,161 --> 00:22:25,961 Timothy: Nice. 804 00:22:25,230 --> 00:22:27,509 Adam K: how he couldn't even boot it up. 805 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,260 Timothy: Swat 806 00:22:27,589 --> 00:22:28,390 Adam K: And. 807 00:22:28,060 --> 00:22:28,721 Timothy: three. 808 00:22:28,721 --> 00:22:29,840 Timothy: What? 809 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,000 Timothy: Dang, that. 810 00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:31,910 Adam K: The early 811 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:32,441 Timothy: Yes! 812 00:22:31,710 --> 00:22:33,269 Adam K: two thousand, maybe 813 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:33,381 Timothy: Heck, 814 00:22:33,069 --> 00:22:33,589 Adam K: something 815 00:22:33,181 --> 00:22:33,881 Timothy: yeah! 816 00:22:33,390 --> 00:22:34,029 Adam K: like that. 817 00:22:34,029 --> 00:22:34,390 Adam K: And 818 00:22:34,161 --> 00:22:35,000 Timothy: Yeah! 819 00:22:34,190 --> 00:22:37,730 Adam K: he just had some like it was a pretty hefty piece. 820 00:22:37,730 --> 00:22:41,250 Adam K: It was a prebuilt, but I remember he was just so 821 00:22:41,250 --> 00:22:43,849 Adam K: frustrated trying to get the computer to boot up. 822 00:22:43,849 --> 00:22:45,049 Adam K: And I'm like, I don't know what I did. 823 00:22:45,049 --> 00:22:47,769 Adam K: I burned something out, I don't know. 824 00:22:47,769 --> 00:22:50,730 Adam K: So I'm cursed when it comes to this stuff. 825 00:22:50,730 --> 00:22:53,589 Adam K: So, uh, believe you me, but like 826 00:22:53,589 --> 00:22:55,069 Adam K: with Hermes, I was just kind of 827 00:22:55,069 --> 00:22:55,410 Adam K: curious. 828 00:22:55,410 --> 00:22:56,690 Adam K: What's your use case for it now? 829 00:22:56,690 --> 00:22:57,569 Adam K: Because I'm. 830 00:22:57,569 --> 00:23:01,369 Adam K: I'm currently struggling to find something useful for it to do. 831 00:23:01,369 --> 00:23:03,410 Adam K: I know it'll happen. 832 00:23:03,410 --> 00:23:07,329 Adam K: Um, but I'm just, I'm want to know what your experience has 833 00:23:07,329 --> 00:23:08,210 Adam K: been with it. 834 00:23:08,530 --> 00:23:15,871 Timothy: Um, so I have been going back and forth in between using arch 835 00:23:15,871 --> 00:23:24,730 Timothy: and using this new type of Linux called Nixos and Nixos. 836 00:23:24,730 --> 00:23:28,891 Timothy: It uses a declarative based system to install all the 837 00:23:28,891 --> 00:23:34,971 Timothy: packages that it needs, meaning all, all of the programs are all 838 00:23:34,971 --> 00:23:39,691 Timothy: written down in a big sheet in its most simple form, so that, 839 00:23:39,691 --> 00:23:44,310 Timothy: um, everything is laid out and you could take that one file, 840 00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:48,090 Timothy: that one text file, and take it to a new system and then have 841 00:23:48,090 --> 00:23:54,191 Timothy: your same workstation on that system and then never have to do 842 00:23:54,191 --> 00:23:58,111 Timothy: the whole, oh, find an executable, install it. 843 00:23:58,111 --> 00:23:59,911 Timothy: Good thing ever again. 844 00:23:59,911 --> 00:24:03,750 Timothy: You don't have to create a windows install script, uh, 845 00:24:03,750 --> 00:24:04,671 Timothy: those sorts of things. 846 00:24:04,671 --> 00:24:05,871 Timothy: It would just download it all 847 00:24:05,871 --> 00:24:09,131 Timothy: from repos and after, you know, 848 00:24:09,131 --> 00:24:10,790 Timothy: fifteen, twenty minutes of it 849 00:24:10,790 --> 00:24:12,590 Timothy: downloading and, and setting 850 00:24:12,590 --> 00:24:14,431 Timothy: everything up based on your 851 00:24:14,431 --> 00:24:16,391 Timothy: system instructions, you have 852 00:24:16,391 --> 00:24:17,871 Timothy: your workstation wherever you're 853 00:24:17,871 --> 00:24:18,351 Timothy: at. 854 00:24:18,829 --> 00:24:21,950 Adam K: So that's that's useful for like it folk basically. 855 00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:22,790 Timothy: Exactly. 856 00:24:22,790 --> 00:24:23,151 Timothy: Uh, 857 00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:23,630 Adam K: Okay. 858 00:24:22,951 --> 00:24:24,871 Timothy: it would be really, really good 859 00:24:24,871 --> 00:24:27,570 Timothy: for people that were setting up, 860 00:24:27,570 --> 00:24:30,671 Timothy: um, lots of different, smaller 861 00:24:30,671 --> 00:24:33,070 Timothy: server type. 862 00:24:33,070 --> 00:24:36,851 Timothy: Uh. Uh, blocks, server type 863 00:24:36,851 --> 00:24:39,411 Timothy: systems or setting up a drone 864 00:24:39,411 --> 00:24:40,050 Timothy: army. 865 00:24:40,450 --> 00:24:42,490 Adam K: Oh, I see. 866 00:24:43,569 --> 00:24:44,049 Adam K: So 867 00:24:43,611 --> 00:24:44,351 Timothy: So 868 00:24:43,849 --> 00:24:44,529 Adam K: not. 869 00:24:44,151 --> 00:24:44,730 Timothy: that's 870 00:24:44,329 --> 00:24:45,009 Adam K: Not. 871 00:24:44,530 --> 00:24:47,631 Timothy: what got me interested in it is kind of the DoD use case, but 872 00:24:47,631 --> 00:24:49,411 Timothy: what can I use it for? 873 00:24:49,411 --> 00:24:52,270 Timothy: Because I, I just wonder, I 874 00:24:51,809 --> 00:24:52,609 Adam K: Yeah. 875 00:24:52,070 --> 00:24:53,330 Timothy: do a lot of wondering. 876 00:24:53,330 --> 00:24:53,810 Timothy: I, 877 00:24:53,529 --> 00:24:54,210 Adam K: Mhm. 878 00:24:53,611 --> 00:24:55,730 Timothy: I, I, I'm a very peaceful, 879 00:24:55,730 --> 00:24:57,770 Timothy: non-violent guy, but I also am 880 00:24:57,770 --> 00:24:59,411 Timothy: curious about 881 00:24:58,690 --> 00:24:59,730 Adam K: Are you using 882 00:24:59,211 --> 00:25:00,131 Timothy: those things. 883 00:24:59,529 --> 00:25:01,410 Adam K: God's eye at the moment? 884 00:25:01,371 --> 00:25:02,971 Timothy: God's I know, I don't know that one. 885 00:25:02,971 --> 00:25:03,471 Timothy: I'm going 886 00:25:03,250 --> 00:25:03,609 Adam K: Oh, 887 00:25:03,270 --> 00:25:03,730 Timothy: to write 888 00:25:03,410 --> 00:25:03,930 Adam K: you haven't 889 00:25:03,530 --> 00:25:03,931 Timothy: that 890 00:25:03,730 --> 00:25:04,089 Adam K: seen. 891 00:25:03,730 --> 00:25:04,290 Timothy: down. 892 00:25:03,890 --> 00:25:05,130 Adam K: God's eye 893 00:25:04,891 --> 00:25:05,211 Timothy: Uh, 894 00:25:04,930 --> 00:25:05,970 Adam K: is 895 00:25:05,010 --> 00:25:05,451 Timothy: uh. 896 00:25:05,769 --> 00:25:06,369 Adam K: frightening. 897 00:25:06,369 --> 00:25:07,849 Adam K: And I don't know if it's real or not. 898 00:25:07,849 --> 00:25:11,569 Adam K: Similar to, like, the, uh, Magnolia minority Report thing. 899 00:25:11,569 --> 00:25:12,230 Adam K: It 900 00:25:11,570 --> 00:25:12,090 Timothy: Uh. 901 00:25:12,029 --> 00:25:12,769 Adam K: it's. 902 00:25:12,769 --> 00:25:15,849 Adam K: It looks like I could be remembering the movie wrong. 903 00:25:15,849 --> 00:25:17,529 Adam K: It was a Shia LaBeouf movie. 904 00:25:17,529 --> 00:25:19,250 Adam K: It was called Eagle Eye or something. 905 00:25:19,250 --> 00:25:22,609 Adam K: Or he, he supposed to play an 906 00:25:22,609 --> 00:25:23,650 Adam K: adult, which he looks like a 907 00:25:23,650 --> 00:25:23,970 Adam K: child. 908 00:25:23,970 --> 00:25:24,890 Adam K: So it doesn't really work. 909 00:25:24,890 --> 00:25:28,849 Adam K: But he's like, he's being tracked. 910 00:25:28,211 --> 00:25:29,250 Timothy: Porsche. 911 00:25:28,809 --> 00:25:30,589 Adam K: Uh, or what was the, the, 912 00:25:30,371 --> 00:25:31,050 Timothy: I 913 00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:31,450 Adam K: um, the Wilson. 914 00:25:30,851 --> 00:25:32,631 Timothy: feel for Shia and all of his 915 00:25:32,631 --> 00:25:35,090 Timothy: trials and tribulations and and 916 00:25:35,090 --> 00:25:36,631 Timothy: him trying to be such a macho 917 00:25:36,631 --> 00:25:37,351 Timothy: dude. 918 00:25:37,351 --> 00:25:37,750 Timothy: I 919 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:38,640 Adam K: Yeah, 920 00:25:37,550 --> 00:25:38,631 Timothy: feel for that guy. 921 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,740 Adam K: I know it's it's tough for it's like like 922 00:25:41,431 --> 00:25:41,790 Timothy: I 923 00:25:41,539 --> 00:25:42,000 Adam K: Tom 924 00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:42,070 Timothy: just 925 00:25:41,799 --> 00:25:42,480 Adam K: Holland 926 00:25:41,871 --> 00:25:42,851 Timothy: remember 927 00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:42,940 Adam K: will 928 00:25:42,651 --> 00:25:43,590 Timothy: holes. 929 00:25:42,740 --> 00:25:44,200 Adam K: look like a child forever. 930 00:25:44,030 --> 00:25:45,131 Timothy: I remember 931 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:44,880 Adam K: I. 932 00:25:44,931 --> 00:25:47,631 Timothy: even Stevens. No. Is he even Stevens? 933 00:25:47,631 --> 00:25:48,230 Timothy: What was 934 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,240 Adam K: He 935 00:25:48,030 --> 00:25:48,471 Timothy: it? 936 00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:48,519 Adam K: was even. 937 00:25:48,519 --> 00:25:48,839 Adam K: Steven. 938 00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:49,480 Adam K: Yeah. 939 00:25:49,030 --> 00:25:50,030 Timothy: Yeah, yeah. 940 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,799 Adam K: Um, I'm I'm a purist and I, I only read the book holes. 941 00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:55,799 Adam K: I never actually saw the movie. 942 00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:56,660 Adam K: Um, 943 00:25:56,030 --> 00:25:56,671 Timothy: Okay. 944 00:25:56,460 --> 00:25:59,319 Adam K: yeah, no, I I'm I'm being serious. 945 00:25:59,319 --> 00:26:01,200 Adam K: My brother recommended it to me. 946 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,000 Adam K: He's like, you should read this book. 947 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,079 Adam K: I don't know, it was like thirteen. 948 00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:04,039 Adam K: I was like, it's a good book. 949 00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:05,920 Adam K: And then, I don't know, Shia 950 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,319 Adam K: LaBeouf always turned me up 951 00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:08,160 Adam K: regardless. 952 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,240 Adam K: He's supposed to play an adult 953 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,039 Adam K: because I think he has some 954 00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:11,160 Adam K: facial hair. 955 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,799 Adam K: And it's, it's that, um, like 956 00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:17,140 Adam K: late two thousand, early twenty 957 00:26:17,140 --> 00:26:19,700 Adam K: tens, like, uh, that, that like 958 00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:22,279 Adam K: web interface that just no one 959 00:26:22,279 --> 00:26:23,240 Adam K: in their right mind would ever 960 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,059 Adam K: use like, it's like a CSI type 961 00:26:25,059 --> 00:26:26,160 Adam K: thing, but 962 00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:26,550 Timothy: Yeah. 963 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,740 Adam K: it's this like open source project where you can track 964 00:26:28,740 --> 00:26:33,740 Adam K: basically every plane, Every, uh, street camera. 965 00:26:33,740 --> 00:26:35,099 Adam K: It's like, just 966 00:26:34,770 --> 00:26:35,770 Timothy: Yes. 967 00:26:34,900 --> 00:26:36,299 Adam K: available to everyone. 968 00:26:36,299 --> 00:26:38,019 Adam K: Yeah. It's like you become the flock. 969 00:26:38,019 --> 00:26:39,500 Adam K: You are flock now. 970 00:26:39,851 --> 00:26:41,010 Timothy: Perfect. 971 00:26:39,859 --> 00:26:41,660 Adam K: Um, yeah. 972 00:26:41,411 --> 00:26:42,250 Timothy: That's 973 00:26:41,460 --> 00:26:42,019 Adam K: So. 974 00:26:42,050 --> 00:26:42,730 Timothy: never misused. 975 00:26:42,730 --> 00:26:43,411 Timothy: Ever. 976 00:26:43,299 --> 00:26:44,059 Adam K: No. 977 00:26:43,530 --> 00:26:44,931 Timothy: And it just puts it together. 978 00:26:44,931 --> 00:26:47,330 Timothy: All the APIs are set up for you and everything. 979 00:26:47,330 --> 00:26:47,851 Timothy: Just 980 00:26:47,579 --> 00:26:47,940 Adam K: It 981 00:26:47,651 --> 00:26:48,290 Timothy: go. 982 00:26:47,740 --> 00:26:48,299 Adam K: helped. 983 00:26:48,299 --> 00:26:51,119 Adam K: If you don't know what your ex-wife is doing, how can you 984 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,339 Adam K: keep her safe? 985 00:26:52,250 --> 00:26:53,290 Timothy: Exactly. 986 00:26:53,339 --> 00:26:55,579 Adam K: Local police officers. 987 00:26:55,579 --> 00:26:56,420 Adam K: Um. 988 00:26:56,171 --> 00:26:59,111 Timothy: I I'm, I'm watching the the the 989 00:26:59,111 --> 00:27:00,810 Timothy: pool down, down the street right 990 00:27:00,810 --> 00:27:01,371 Timothy: now. 991 00:27:02,819 --> 00:27:04,140 Adam K: I don't know if that joke went 992 00:27:04,140 --> 00:27:05,740 Adam K: over a certain amount of 993 00:27:05,740 --> 00:27:06,859 Adam K: people's heads. 994 00:27:07,131 --> 00:27:07,691 Timothy: Probably 995 00:27:07,339 --> 00:27:08,019 Adam K: Uh, 996 00:27:07,490 --> 00:27:08,010 Timothy: not. 997 00:27:07,819 --> 00:27:08,579 Adam K: I don't know. 998 00:27:08,579 --> 00:27:13,140 Adam K: Look, if we get, uh, Talarico elected. 999 00:27:13,140 --> 00:27:15,740 Adam K: I think you should be there on stage with him. 1000 00:27:15,691 --> 00:27:16,971 Timothy: Let's make it happen. 1001 00:27:18,420 --> 00:27:21,940 Adam K: With pictures of local, uh, empty pools. 1002 00:27:23,611 --> 00:27:24,570 Timothy: The pools. 1003 00:27:23,740 --> 00:27:24,420 Adam K: Yeah. 1004 00:27:24,770 --> 00:27:26,250 Timothy: We're going to keep them safe. 1005 00:27:26,220 --> 00:27:30,369 Adam K: So. Okay, so you're using Nixos for 1006 00:27:29,250 --> 00:27:29,891 Timothy: Mhm. 1007 00:27:30,170 --> 00:27:33,759 Adam K: defense capabilities in. 1008 00:27:33,351 --> 00:27:34,871 Timothy: I'm just learning really. 1009 00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:36,000 Adam K: Right. 1010 00:27:35,111 --> 00:27:38,070 Timothy: I don't really care what I'm using, uh, 1011 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,160 Adam K: Right. 1012 00:27:37,871 --> 00:27:39,310 Timothy: just as long as it's working. 1013 00:27:39,310 --> 00:27:41,070 Timothy: But I tend to break things in 1014 00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:41,599 Adam K: Right. 1015 00:27:40,871 --> 00:27:42,631 Timothy: the same way that we're talking about. 1016 00:27:42,631 --> 00:27:42,990 Timothy: It 1017 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,240 Adam K: I'm. 1018 00:27:42,790 --> 00:27:43,471 Timothy: should work. 1019 00:27:43,471 --> 00:27:44,750 Timothy: And I usually keep one thing 1020 00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:46,590 Timothy: that works and then I break 1021 00:27:46,590 --> 00:27:47,590 Timothy: everything else. 1022 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:48,480 Adam K: That's smart. 1023 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:48,799 Adam K: I know. 1024 00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:49,559 Adam K: I mean, you're right, though. 1025 00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:52,119 Adam K: Like, how else can you fix something unless you break it? 1026 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,920 Adam K: And that's how I justify my poor actions. 1027 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:55,880 Adam K: So yeah. 1028 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,920 Adam K: Um, but so I get going back to the question earlier, how does 1029 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,039 Adam K: that work with like Hermes? 1030 00:28:02,039 --> 00:28:05,779 Adam K: Like, what do you, what do you what's a good use case for 1031 00:28:05,779 --> 00:28:09,359 Adam K: Hermes other than me talking to it on telegram, trying to get it 1032 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,779 Adam K: to book a phone call with the or ring people because, uh, they 1033 00:28:13,779 --> 00:28:15,160 Adam K: won't get back to me. 1034 00:28:16,030 --> 00:28:23,911 Timothy: Um, I've, I've just been logging into the CLI, um, and I've been 1035 00:28:23,911 --> 00:28:29,371 Timothy: using it for, you know, multi agentic swarming, uh, since it 1036 00:28:29,371 --> 00:28:33,290 Timothy: has the capability to do things like grok bot. 1037 00:28:33,290 --> 00:28:38,570 Timothy: Um, so I'll give it a prompt that's basically like, okay, I 1038 00:28:38,570 --> 00:28:43,830 Timothy: want you to, uh, do these things like please figure out how to 1039 00:28:43,830 --> 00:28:47,290 Timothy: set up, uh, Ryoku. 1040 00:28:47,290 --> 00:28:50,971 Timothy: Um, and you can find the system instructions here. 1041 00:28:50,971 --> 00:28:55,810 Timothy: I, I found where the, the skills dot MD or the agent dot MD files 1042 00:28:55,810 --> 00:28:59,171 Timothy: were there on, on that website for it to read that, uh, go 1043 00:28:59,171 --> 00:29:02,971 Timothy: through these sets of instructions and spin up 1044 00:29:02,971 --> 00:29:07,770 Timothy: multiple agents so that I can token max it and move quickly 1045 00:29:07,770 --> 00:29:10,451 Timothy: because that's the way of the future is completely token 1046 00:29:10,451 --> 00:29:14,971 Timothy: maxing and, uh, make the best decisions, I tell it. 1047 00:29:14,971 --> 00:29:16,651 Timothy: Yeah, don't, don't wait for me 1048 00:29:16,651 --> 00:29:19,530 Timothy: to ask me to make decisions for 1049 00:29:19,530 --> 00:29:19,770 Timothy: you. 1050 00:29:19,770 --> 00:29:22,290 Timothy: I want you to make the best decisions and go. 1051 00:29:22,290 --> 00:29:24,691 Timothy: And that's my prompts every time. 1052 00:29:24,691 --> 00:29:25,371 Timothy: Now it's 1053 00:29:25,019 --> 00:29:25,619 Adam K: And 1054 00:29:25,171 --> 00:29:25,871 Timothy: just 1055 00:29:25,420 --> 00:29:25,980 Adam K: so you're 1056 00:29:25,671 --> 00:29:26,010 Timothy: it's 1057 00:29:25,779 --> 00:29:26,279 Adam K: just 1058 00:29:25,810 --> 00:29:26,290 Timothy: been up. 1059 00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:26,700 Adam K: you're. 1060 00:29:26,090 --> 00:29:27,770 Timothy: Multiple agents make 1061 00:29:27,380 --> 00:29:27,799 Adam K: So 1062 00:29:27,570 --> 00:29:27,891 Timothy: the 1063 00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:28,019 Adam K: it's 1064 00:29:27,691 --> 00:29:28,121 Timothy: best 1065 00:29:27,819 --> 00:29:28,230 Adam K: not 1066 00:29:27,921 --> 00:29:28,631 Timothy: decisions 1067 00:29:28,029 --> 00:29:28,940 Adam K: even 1068 00:29:28,431 --> 00:29:28,990 Timothy: go. 1069 00:29:28,740 --> 00:29:33,680 Adam K: it's not even teach me how to set this up is you go set it up. 1070 00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:36,270 Timothy: I used to be like, please teach me. 1071 00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:37,039 Adam K: Mhm. 1072 00:29:37,111 --> 00:29:40,790 Timothy: And I realize now, man, there's no way that I can keep up with 1073 00:29:40,790 --> 00:29:43,830 Timothy: the rapid advancement of everything all at once. 1074 00:29:43,839 --> 00:29:44,559 Adam K: Yeah. 1075 00:29:44,431 --> 00:29:46,310 Timothy: I tried for a long time to be a 1076 00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:49,590 Timothy: programmer, and there's there's 1077 00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:51,070 Timothy: no way to learn programming 1078 00:29:51,070 --> 00:29:51,911 Timothy: online. 1079 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:52,880 Adam K: Right. 1080 00:29:52,631 --> 00:29:54,631 Timothy: You you're better. 1081 00:29:54,631 --> 00:29:57,971 Timothy: You you really should go to an institution of higher learning 1082 00:29:57,971 --> 00:30:01,911 Timothy: and get a computer science degree, because I don't believe 1083 00:30:01,911 --> 00:30:02,790 Timothy: that it's going away. 1084 00:30:02,790 --> 00:30:04,871 Timothy: I'm not an AI doomer. 1085 00:30:04,871 --> 00:30:08,750 Timothy: Um, it's just going to be very different than it is now. 1086 00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:09,799 Adam K: Yeah. 1087 00:30:10,230 --> 00:30:10,871 Timothy: Uh. 1088 00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:13,400 Adam K: Yeah. I'm with you there. 1089 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,799 Adam K: But I was like, I'm just 1090 00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:17,000 Adam K: relating to it because I've gone 1091 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,160 Adam K: from that. 1092 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,299 Adam K: Teach me how to use something like, you know, Zapier or N810 1093 00:30:22,299 --> 00:30:23,880 Adam K: like this, if this, then that. 1094 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,420 Adam K: And then I realize, wait, you can just do all this. 1095 00:30:26,810 --> 00:30:28,211 Timothy: You can just do it. 1096 00:30:27,940 --> 00:30:28,940 Adam K: You go do it. 1097 00:30:28,940 --> 00:30:34,059 Adam K: And it is making me more of a meat proxy where I'm just. 1098 00:30:34,059 --> 00:30:35,460 Adam K: I'm the middle man. 1099 00:30:35,460 --> 00:30:36,400 Adam K: I'm going to be the guy 1100 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,819 Adam K: delivering the package on behalf 1101 00:30:37,819 --> 00:30:39,119 Adam K: of the AI, so I can make my five 1102 00:30:39,119 --> 00:30:39,740 Adam K: hundred dollars. 1103 00:30:39,740 --> 00:30:41,619 Adam K: Like I think we might all just 1104 00:30:41,619 --> 00:30:43,359 Adam K: end up becoming like glorified, 1105 00:30:43,359 --> 00:30:44,900 Adam K: you know, Postmates, Uber 1106 00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:45,299 Adam K: drivers. 1107 00:30:45,299 --> 00:30:48,539 Adam K: Maybe that was like, that's the psyop to get us ready for this, 1108 00:30:48,539 --> 00:30:53,019 Adam K: where it's like, why am I giving blueprints to this guy? 1109 00:30:53,019 --> 00:30:55,220 Adam K: And he doesn't know why he's getting the blueprints or he 1110 00:30:55,220 --> 00:30:56,180 Adam K: doesn't know what he's building. 1111 00:30:56,180 --> 00:30:56,900 Adam K: And the next thing you know, 1112 00:30:56,900 --> 00:30:57,839 Adam K: we're just covered in data 1113 00:30:57,839 --> 00:30:58,220 Adam K: centers. 1114 00:30:58,220 --> 00:30:59,500 Adam K: But, um. 1115 00:30:58,971 --> 00:31:00,451 Timothy: Put on the yoke. 1116 00:31:00,451 --> 00:31:01,330 Timothy: Come on. 1117 00:31:01,330 --> 00:31:04,250 Timothy: I need you in full harness so that you can pull. 1118 00:31:04,250 --> 00:31:05,490 Timothy: Pull the mills. 1119 00:31:06,490 --> 00:31:06,891 Timothy: Pull! 1120 00:31:06,891 --> 00:31:08,411 Timothy: Pull the grain mills. 1121 00:31:08,740 --> 00:31:11,180 Adam K: Oh, man, I, I had this idea. 1122 00:31:11,180 --> 00:31:14,599 Adam K: It's not really an original idea, but, uh, I was talking to 1123 00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:15,460 Adam K: Aaron about this. 1124 00:31:15,460 --> 00:31:18,099 Adam K: Do you see the computer that can run on human neurons? 1125 00:31:18,330 --> 00:31:19,691 Timothy: That sounds awesome. 1126 00:31:19,819 --> 00:31:20,660 Adam K: Well, they got 1127 00:31:20,371 --> 00:31:20,851 Timothy: Sign 1128 00:31:20,460 --> 00:31:20,920 Adam K: like 1129 00:31:20,651 --> 00:31:21,010 Timothy: me 1130 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:21,059 Adam K: the 1131 00:31:20,810 --> 00:31:21,250 Timothy: up. 1132 00:31:20,859 --> 00:31:22,940 Adam K: fly brain playing doom. 1133 00:31:23,330 --> 00:31:24,411 Timothy: Yeah, yeah. 1134 00:31:24,059 --> 00:31:25,069 Adam K: Yeah, 1135 00:31:24,250 --> 00:31:26,191 Timothy: Oh, no. I've definitely seen stuff like that. 1136 00:31:25,869 --> 00:31:26,599 Adam K: Yeah, 1137 00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:26,871 Timothy: Everything always 1138 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:26,960 Adam K: yeah. 1139 00:31:26,671 --> 00:31:29,431 Timothy: starts out with, let's see if we can play doom on it. 1140 00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:30,039 Adam K: Right. 1141 00:31:29,671 --> 00:31:30,230 Timothy: I always 1142 00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:30,880 Adam K: Yeah 1143 00:31:30,030 --> 00:31:31,111 Timothy: think that's hilarious. 1144 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,420 Adam K: I 1145 00:31:30,911 --> 00:31:31,510 Timothy: I can play 1146 00:31:31,220 --> 00:31:32,079 Adam K: have 1147 00:31:31,310 --> 00:31:33,270 Timothy: doom on my TV right now, 1148 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:33,759 Adam K: right. 1149 00:31:33,070 --> 00:31:34,070 Timothy: which is 1150 00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:34,200 Adam K: I, 1151 00:31:33,871 --> 00:31:34,310 Timothy: why 1152 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:34,339 Adam K: I 1153 00:31:34,111 --> 00:31:34,471 Timothy: would 1154 00:31:34,140 --> 00:31:34,599 Adam K: have 1155 00:31:34,270 --> 00:31:34,730 Timothy: you want 1156 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:34,819 Adam K: no 1157 00:31:34,530 --> 00:31:34,830 Timothy: to 1158 00:31:34,619 --> 00:31:35,079 Adam K: mouth 1159 00:31:34,631 --> 00:31:35,111 Timothy: do that 1160 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,200 Adam K: and 1161 00:31:34,911 --> 00:31:35,230 Timothy: on 1162 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:35,279 Adam K: I 1163 00:31:35,030 --> 00:31:35,310 Timothy: an 1164 00:31:35,079 --> 00:31:35,519 Adam K: must 1165 00:31:35,111 --> 00:31:35,631 Timothy: LG 1166 00:31:35,319 --> 00:31:35,799 Adam K: play 1167 00:31:35,431 --> 00:31:35,951 Timothy: TV? 1168 00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:36,440 Adam K: doom. 1169 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,220 Adam K: Um, 1170 00:31:36,471 --> 00:31:37,111 Timothy: Yeah. 1171 00:31:37,019 --> 00:31:38,440 Adam K: but the idea is that they can 1172 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,160 Adam K: take like cells from your finger 1173 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,799 Adam K: and through science, I call it 1174 00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:45,920 Adam K: magic. 1175 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:51,519 Adam K: They can turn those finger cells into neurons and like real basic 1176 00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:54,839 Adam K: neurons, the real, you know, yes or no. And they essentially 1177 00:31:54,839 --> 00:32:00,160 Adam K: scream at it because it doesn't like loud noises and that means 1178 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,960 Adam K: you're doing bad. 1179 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,720 Adam K: But when you're doing well, no noise keeps it quiet. 1180 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,240 Adam K: So it's basically pain, no pain. 1181 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,079 Adam K: Um, and that's, that's the transistor essentially. 1182 00:32:10,079 --> 00:32:11,920 Adam K: That's like running 1183 00:32:11,550 --> 00:32:12,611 Timothy: What 1184 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,160 Adam K: these computers. 1185 00:32:12,411 --> 00:32:13,951 Timothy: are they screaming at? 1186 00:32:13,951 --> 00:32:15,951 Timothy: Like one cellular neuron? 1187 00:32:15,951 --> 00:32:18,631 Timothy: Or are they screaming at a fly's brain? 1188 00:32:18,631 --> 00:32:19,391 Timothy: What? 1189 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,339 Adam K: I think all it's, 1190 00:32:21,550 --> 00:32:22,070 Timothy: Are. 1191 00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:26,420 Adam K: it's this weird conjunction where it's like, it's the AI and 1192 00:32:26,420 --> 00:32:28,180 Adam K: the neurons working 1193 00:32:27,570 --> 00:32:28,211 Timothy: Okay. 1194 00:32:27,980 --> 00:32:29,180 Adam K: in conjunction. 1195 00:32:29,180 --> 00:32:31,099 Adam K: But then they were getting 1196 00:32:31,099 --> 00:32:31,980 Adam K: worried that, oh, maybe it's 1197 00:32:31,980 --> 00:32:33,099 Adam K: just the AI doing all the work, 1198 00:32:33,099 --> 00:32:34,180 Adam K: but so they turned off the 1199 00:32:34,180 --> 00:32:35,259 Adam K: neurons and let the AI do all 1200 00:32:35,259 --> 00:32:37,259 Adam K: the work and it wasn't working 1201 00:32:37,259 --> 00:32:37,660 Adam K: correctly. 1202 00:32:37,660 --> 00:32:41,119 Adam K: So it is something weird where it is this like it's this 1203 00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:44,500 Adam K: artificial intelligence, which I learned over the weekend is, uh, 1204 00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:47,559 Adam K: baked in all sorts of eugenics and other sorts of lingo, but so 1205 00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:48,579 Adam K: is the IQ test. 1206 00:32:48,579 --> 00:32:49,819 Adam K: It all comes from that. 1207 00:32:49,819 --> 00:32:51,380 Adam K: Basically, uh, Silicon Valley 1208 00:32:51,380 --> 00:32:52,220 Adam K: was founded by white 1209 00:32:52,220 --> 00:32:53,539 Adam K: supremacists. 1210 00:32:53,539 --> 00:32:54,299 Adam K: So. 1211 00:32:53,730 --> 00:32:55,530 Timothy: Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, though. 1212 00:32:55,530 --> 00:32:56,530 Timothy: There's a lot of nice things 1213 00:32:56,530 --> 00:32:57,371 Timothy: that we can learn from the 1214 00:32:57,371 --> 00:32:58,171 Timothy: Nazis. 1215 00:32:57,460 --> 00:32:58,339 Adam K: Yeah, 1216 00:32:58,010 --> 00:32:58,851 Timothy: Let's go. 1217 00:32:59,140 --> 00:33:01,099 Adam K: let's just, let's just take 1218 00:33:01,099 --> 00:33:02,940 Adam K: their wonderful cars and fashion 1219 00:33:02,940 --> 00:33:05,700 Adam K: and then, uh, get a few trials 1220 00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:06,500 Adam K: going. 1221 00:33:06,211 --> 00:33:06,810 Timothy: I know 1222 00:33:06,420 --> 00:33:07,220 Adam K: Um. 1223 00:33:06,611 --> 00:33:08,211 Timothy: they sure were sharp dressers, weren't they? 1224 00:33:08,211 --> 00:33:11,131 Timothy: Man, I think Lemmy Kilmister was was on to something. 1225 00:33:11,099 --> 00:33:13,420 Adam K: He, I mean, and he was the most 1226 00:33:13,420 --> 00:33:15,440 Adam K: progressive progressive of all 1227 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,099 Adam K: of us. 1228 00:33:16,090 --> 00:33:16,490 Timothy: He 1229 00:33:16,259 --> 00:33:17,240 Adam K: Um, 1230 00:33:16,290 --> 00:33:17,330 Timothy: was, wasn't he? 1231 00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:19,660 Adam K: yes, we, we miss him dearly. 1232 00:33:19,660 --> 00:33:26,109 Adam K: And regardless, it's this thing where it's the AI and the flesh 1233 00:33:26,109 --> 00:33:27,970 Adam K: working in conjunction. 1234 00:33:27,970 --> 00:33:33,190 Adam K: And so I just, I, I just had this brief vision of the future 1235 00:33:33,190 --> 00:33:40,369 Adam K: where we're selling our skin to the AI, and it's almost like 1236 00:33:40,369 --> 00:33:43,890 Adam K: sperm donation or blood donation, but it's like it 1237 00:33:43,890 --> 00:33:45,769 Adam K: starts off as all things. 1238 00:33:45,769 --> 00:33:46,529 Adam K: It's real simple. 1239 00:33:46,529 --> 00:33:48,490 Adam K: You just, you like, put your finger on a thing. 1240 00:33:48,490 --> 00:33:49,369 Adam K: Thank you for your donation. 1241 00:33:49,369 --> 00:33:50,210 Adam K: Gives you a thousand bucks. 1242 00:33:50,210 --> 00:33:51,890 Adam K: That's like our UBI. 1243 00:33:51,890 --> 00:33:55,369 Adam K: Um, then eventually grows where people are like giving their 1244 00:33:55,369 --> 00:33:59,509 Adam K: arms and their legs because that can buy them a house and like, 1245 00:33:59,230 --> 00:33:59,590 Timothy: It's 1246 00:33:59,309 --> 00:33:59,650 Adam K: well, 1247 00:33:59,391 --> 00:33:59,790 Timothy: like 1248 00:33:59,450 --> 00:33:59,930 Adam K: I want 1249 00:33:59,590 --> 00:34:00,510 Timothy: Hellraiser. 1250 00:33:59,730 --> 00:34:01,490 Adam K: the new car. 1251 00:34:01,490 --> 00:34:06,089 Adam K: Yes, but maybe in exchange, it's kind of like a Deus Ex thing 1252 00:34:06,089 --> 00:34:10,730 Adam K: where they're giving us robotic limbs, you know, in exchange. 1253 00:34:10,730 --> 00:34:14,250 Adam K: And similar to the computers in the mines. 1254 00:34:14,250 --> 00:34:19,530 Adam K: Um, we're just this is how the, the, the gentle merge begins of 1255 00:34:19,530 --> 00:34:21,010 Adam K: flesh and chrome. 1256 00:34:22,530 --> 00:34:23,530 Timothy: I would. 1257 00:34:23,530 --> 00:34:27,090 Timothy: I'm not sure if they would find that valuable. 1258 00:34:27,090 --> 00:34:31,710 Timothy: Once they realized how much resources that it took for us to 1259 00:34:31,710 --> 00:34:33,331 Timothy: grow them naturally. 1260 00:34:33,630 --> 00:34:34,429 Adam K: Yeah. 1261 00:34:34,130 --> 00:34:35,510 Timothy: They'd probably figure out, oh, 1262 00:34:35,510 --> 00:34:36,811 Timothy: this is really an efficiency 1263 00:34:36,811 --> 00:34:37,771 Timothy: problem. 1264 00:34:37,771 --> 00:34:40,971 Timothy: Although, yes, please take my legs right now. 1265 00:34:40,971 --> 00:34:41,411 Timothy: My 1266 00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:41,869 Adam K: Mhm. 1267 00:34:41,210 --> 00:34:45,291 Timothy: knees suck and I know that they will give eventually here. 1268 00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:46,070 Adam K: Yeah. 1269 00:34:45,371 --> 00:34:49,331 Timothy: So robots, if you're listening to me right now, I would take a 1270 00:34:49,331 --> 00:34:54,130 Timothy: robot leg and you can have them just just come on by later on. 1271 00:34:54,130 --> 00:34:54,971 Timothy: Later on today. 1272 00:34:54,971 --> 00:34:56,371 Timothy: I would totally do that. 1273 00:34:56,309 --> 00:35:01,389 Adam K: I had a dream that my son was. 1274 00:35:01,389 --> 00:35:04,670 Adam K: I don't have a child, but I dreamt I had a son, and it was 1275 00:35:04,670 --> 00:35:07,409 Adam K: this weird pseudo future thing where he was, like, training to 1276 00:35:07,409 --> 00:35:09,030 Adam K: become a Power Ranger. 1277 00:35:09,030 --> 00:35:10,070 Adam K: And the idea, I was like, I was 1278 00:35:10,070 --> 00:35:11,150 Adam K: very aware that I was in a 1279 00:35:11,150 --> 00:35:11,989 Adam K: movie. 1280 00:35:11,989 --> 00:35:12,989 Adam K: And it was this like cool, 1281 00:35:12,989 --> 00:35:17,110 Adam K: modern looking style, like Power 1282 00:35:17,110 --> 00:35:18,190 Adam K: Ranger suits. 1283 00:35:18,190 --> 00:35:22,090 Adam K: And he was the Blue Ranger, which, as we all know that he 1284 00:35:22,090 --> 00:35:23,210 Adam K: wasn't the one missing a finger. 1285 00:35:23,210 --> 00:35:23,929 Adam K: He was the gay one. 1286 00:35:23,929 --> 00:35:25,289 Adam K: They all bullied on set. 1287 00:35:25,289 --> 00:35:29,289 Adam K: So that that says that was also the toy I had as a kid. 1288 00:35:29,289 --> 00:35:33,090 Adam K: But the the idea was that he had his own. 1289 00:35:33,090 --> 00:35:35,409 Adam K: He was he was his own Power Ranger. 1290 00:35:35,409 --> 00:35:38,130 Adam K: But I was his dad and I had really bad knees. 1291 00:35:38,130 --> 00:35:41,429 Adam K: That's all I really remember was I, I, I 1292 00:35:40,831 --> 00:35:41,791 Timothy: That's fatherhood 1293 00:35:41,230 --> 00:35:42,050 Adam K: was, 1294 00:35:41,590 --> 00:35:42,391 Timothy: right there. 1295 00:35:41,849 --> 00:35:44,969 Adam K: I was, I was having a hard time keeping up with him. 1296 00:35:44,791 --> 00:35:46,670 Timothy: Oh, yeah. 1297 00:35:46,050 --> 00:35:47,369 Adam K: Yeah, I 1298 00:35:46,951 --> 00:35:47,471 Timothy: Well, that's 1299 00:35:47,170 --> 00:35:47,570 Adam K: don't 1300 00:35:47,271 --> 00:35:47,590 Timothy: what 1301 00:35:47,369 --> 00:35:47,889 Adam K: know. 1302 00:35:47,391 --> 00:35:48,471 Timothy: we got to try and do. 1303 00:35:48,471 --> 00:35:49,471 Timothy: Stay healthy. 1304 00:35:49,769 --> 00:35:52,489 Adam K: No, I was as I do on a Sunday night. 1305 00:35:52,489 --> 00:35:55,630 Adam K: I was, I was walking through the Walmart Supercenter and they, 1306 00:35:55,630 --> 00:35:59,650 Adam K: they stopped Walmart radio for a second to be like, hey, you're 1307 00:35:59,650 --> 00:36:01,250 Adam K: getting close to fifty. 1308 00:36:01,250 --> 00:36:03,090 Adam K: Best to get, you know, get checked. 1309 00:36:03,090 --> 00:36:04,409 Adam K: I was like, no, yes I am. 1310 00:36:04,409 --> 00:36:06,250 Adam K: I'm closer to fifty than I am to thirty. 1311 00:36:06,250 --> 00:36:07,889 Adam K: Crap. 1312 00:36:07,889 --> 00:36:08,610 Adam K: Yeah. 1313 00:36:08,311 --> 00:36:09,590 Timothy: And it'll happen all at once. 1314 00:36:09,590 --> 00:36:10,190 Timothy: Fifty. 1315 00:36:10,190 --> 00:36:13,951 Timothy: I've heard is kind of like it feels like you're still young 1316 00:36:13,951 --> 00:36:15,431 Timothy: and having fun. 1317 00:36:15,431 --> 00:36:17,911 Timothy: If you ever talk to anyone in their fifties. 1318 00:36:17,911 --> 00:36:18,911 Timothy: Yeah. 1319 00:36:18,911 --> 00:36:21,561 Timothy: That's Sixty. 1320 00:36:21,561 --> 00:36:24,920 Timothy: Well, yeah, you're still kind of getting up there. 1321 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:25,641 Timothy: Your things 1322 00:36:25,429 --> 00:36:26,030 Adam K: Yeah. 1323 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,880 Timothy: are starting to give out. 1324 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,681 Timothy: Seventy? 1325 00:36:27,681 --> 00:36:29,001 Timothy: Yeah, probably. 1326 00:36:29,001 --> 00:36:32,121 Timothy: I don't think you ever quite give up in your head. 1327 00:36:32,121 --> 00:36:34,161 Timothy: You're always trying to feel a little bit younger. 1328 00:36:34,161 --> 00:36:39,001 Timothy: And I don't think when I talk I would talk to my my grandpa who 1329 00:36:39,001 --> 00:36:41,681 Timothy: got up to one hundred and one at the end and he would tell me, 1330 00:36:41,681 --> 00:36:45,561 Timothy: yeah, I don't, I don't feel like I'm ready to quit. 1331 00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:46,829 Adam K: Yeah. 1332 00:36:47,081 --> 00:36:47,561 Timothy: And he 1333 00:36:47,269 --> 00:36:47,590 Adam K: The 1334 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:48,300 Timothy: never 1335 00:36:47,389 --> 00:36:49,510 Adam K: mind is strong, but the body was weak. 1336 00:36:49,101 --> 00:36:49,960 Timothy: yeah. 1337 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,161 Timothy: He, he never was ready to quit. 1338 00:36:52,429 --> 00:36:55,110 Adam K: Yeah. Well, I mean, that's going 1339 00:36:55,110 --> 00:36:56,289 Adam K: back to like kind of the AI 1340 00:36:56,289 --> 00:36:57,190 Adam K: humorism. 1341 00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:59,150 Adam K: That's I think that's where I end up. 1342 00:36:59,150 --> 00:37:01,230 Adam K: Landing is trying to be on the 1343 00:37:01,230 --> 00:37:03,829 Adam K: more optimist side of not 1344 00:37:03,829 --> 00:37:05,309 Adam K: necessarily living forever, 1345 00:37:05,309 --> 00:37:06,349 Adam K: because I think that's a, that's 1346 00:37:06,349 --> 00:37:06,949 Adam K: a fallacy. 1347 00:37:06,949 --> 00:37:10,469 Adam K: And that's probably not great with the way humans absorb 1348 00:37:10,469 --> 00:37:11,590 Adam K: resources and stuff. 1349 00:37:11,590 --> 00:37:13,289 Adam K: But I think a longer, healthier 1350 00:37:13,289 --> 00:37:16,769 Adam K: life and a more lived life, um, 1351 00:37:16,769 --> 00:37:18,789 Adam K: without fear of my knees going 1352 00:37:18,789 --> 00:37:19,070 Adam K: out. 1353 00:37:19,070 --> 00:37:21,090 Adam K: So I can't, you know, I just want to hang out with my Power 1354 00:37:21,090 --> 00:37:23,130 Adam K: Ranger son, you 1355 00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:23,940 Timothy: Exactly. 1356 00:37:22,929 --> 00:37:23,929 Adam K: know? 1357 00:37:23,929 --> 00:37:24,610 Adam K: Yeah. 1358 00:37:24,021 --> 00:37:26,661 Timothy: Little Billy or little Tommy, they'll need you. 1359 00:37:26,661 --> 00:37:27,061 Timothy: Or 1360 00:37:26,690 --> 00:37:27,449 Adam K: Yeah. 1361 00:37:26,860 --> 00:37:29,141 Timothy: else they'll never learn to call the Dragonzord. 1362 00:37:29,610 --> 00:37:33,650 Adam K: Or wait. Yeah. Green Ranger used the flute and 1363 00:37:33,221 --> 00:37:33,860 Timothy: Yeah, 1364 00:37:33,449 --> 00:37:33,929 Adam K: then the 1365 00:37:33,661 --> 00:37:34,021 Timothy: that 1366 00:37:33,730 --> 00:37:34,090 Adam K: white. 1367 00:37:33,820 --> 00:37:34,181 Timothy: was 1368 00:37:33,929 --> 00:37:34,289 Adam K: The 1369 00:37:33,981 --> 00:37:34,300 Timothy: the 1370 00:37:34,090 --> 00:37:34,690 Adam K: what? 1371 00:37:34,101 --> 00:37:34,900 Timothy: Dragonzord. 1372 00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:35,501 Timothy: But 1373 00:37:35,170 --> 00:37:35,949 Adam K: Yeah, 1374 00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:36,860 Timothy: white one was the tiger. 1375 00:37:36,750 --> 00:37:37,409 Adam K: yeah. 1376 00:37:37,409 --> 00:37:38,130 Adam K: Why did he switch? 1377 00:37:38,130 --> 00:37:38,369 Adam K: It was. 1378 00:37:38,369 --> 00:37:39,570 Adam K: Oh, because he was like evil and 1379 00:37:39,570 --> 00:37:40,610 Adam K: his evil was running out, I 1380 00:37:40,610 --> 00:37:41,730 Adam K: can't remember. 1381 00:37:41,380 --> 00:37:46,601 Timothy: I think. Reba. Yeah. Green started as evil, but then 1382 00:37:46,289 --> 00:37:46,869 Adam K: Didn't 1383 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:46,981 Timothy: not 1384 00:37:46,670 --> 00:37:47,269 Adam K: Z 1385 00:37:46,780 --> 00:37:47,541 Timothy: Reba. 1386 00:37:47,070 --> 00:37:48,329 Adam K: make the Green Ranger? 1387 00:37:48,329 --> 00:37:51,090 Adam K: No. Or did Rita. 1388 00:37:50,981 --> 00:37:52,221 Timothy: Rita, not 1389 00:37:51,769 --> 00:37:52,409 Adam K: Rita 1390 00:37:52,021 --> 00:37:52,701 Timothy: Reba, 1391 00:37:52,210 --> 00:37:53,250 Adam K: Repulsa 1392 00:37:52,501 --> 00:37:53,981 Timothy: not Reba McEntire. 1393 00:37:53,981 --> 00:37:54,501 Timothy: Although 1394 00:37:54,050 --> 00:37:54,690 Adam K: Reba 1395 00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:54,820 Timothy: that would 1396 00:37:54,489 --> 00:37:55,050 Adam K: McEntire 1397 00:37:54,621 --> 00:37:55,320 Timothy: make 1398 00:37:54,849 --> 00:37:55,610 Adam K: was a different 1399 00:37:55,121 --> 00:37:55,780 Timothy: a really 1400 00:37:55,409 --> 00:37:56,130 Adam K: villain. 1401 00:37:55,581 --> 00:37:56,501 Timothy: great 1402 00:37:56,610 --> 00:37:57,210 Adam K: Yeah. 1403 00:37:57,300 --> 00:37:59,581 Timothy: make a really great, uh, version 1404 00:37:59,130 --> 00:37:59,730 Adam K: Her. 1405 00:37:59,380 --> 00:38:02,780 Timothy: of the Power Rangers. If Reba McEntire was was the villain. 1406 00:38:02,780 --> 00:38:10,101 Timothy: Um, yeah, Z and then Z came in later and he kind of reinvented 1407 00:38:10,101 --> 00:38:12,440 Timothy: the power putties the 1408 00:38:12,130 --> 00:38:12,730 Adam K: Yeah, 1409 00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:13,061 Timothy: putties. 1410 00:38:12,530 --> 00:38:13,090 Adam K: they had to. 1411 00:38:13,090 --> 00:38:15,610 Adam K: They had to touch each other to get rid of them. 1412 00:38:15,610 --> 00:38:16,170 Adam K: Right. 1413 00:38:16,170 --> 00:38:16,530 Adam K: That 1414 00:38:16,181 --> 00:38:16,900 Timothy: Mhm. 1415 00:38:16,329 --> 00:38:17,250 Adam K: was the new thing. 1416 00:38:17,250 --> 00:38:17,769 Adam K: I forgot 1417 00:38:17,420 --> 00:38:18,101 Timothy: Yeah. 1418 00:38:17,570 --> 00:38:18,050 Adam K: how they. 1419 00:38:18,050 --> 00:38:19,230 Adam K: They had to kill the old putty 1420 00:38:19,230 --> 00:38:20,710 Adam K: patrol by just kicking them or 1421 00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:21,269 Adam K: something, 1422 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:21,641 Timothy: Yeah. 1423 00:38:21,070 --> 00:38:21,710 Adam K: right? 1424 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,601 Timothy: It was a, it was like a, a thing. 1425 00:38:23,601 --> 00:38:26,320 Timothy: You just had to hit the little thing in the middle of their 1426 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,360 Timothy: chest and then they 1427 00:38:27,070 --> 00:38:27,670 Adam K: Yeah. 1428 00:38:27,161 --> 00:38:28,240 Timothy: would explode. 1429 00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:31,329 Adam K: Uh, and then, yeah, Zedd's putty 1430 00:38:31,329 --> 00:38:33,670 Adam K: patrol was you had to make them 1431 00:38:33,670 --> 00:38:34,230 Adam K: touch. 1432 00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:38,869 Adam K: So if he ever sent an odd number, you might. 1433 00:38:38,869 --> 00:38:40,469 Adam K: It's almost like a meeseeks 1434 00:38:39,681 --> 00:38:40,760 Timothy: Then one always 1435 00:38:40,269 --> 00:38:41,510 Adam K: situation. 1436 00:38:40,561 --> 00:38:41,201 Timothy: lived. 1437 00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:42,670 Adam K: Yeah. But 1438 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:42,920 Timothy: Huh? 1439 00:38:42,469 --> 00:38:47,750 Adam K: I think the curse of Zedd was he was, uh, he was anal and 1440 00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:48,829 Adam K: everything had to be. 1441 00:38:48,829 --> 00:38:50,070 Adam K: He was kind of autistic, and he 1442 00:38:50,070 --> 00:38:51,030 Adam K: needed everything to be 1443 00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:52,389 Adam K: perfectly square. 1444 00:38:52,521 --> 00:38:53,121 Timothy: Uh huh. 1445 00:38:52,670 --> 00:38:55,309 Adam K: So he'd always send four or eight. 1446 00:38:55,309 --> 00:38:56,150 Adam K: Um. 1447 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,041 Timothy: I think it was always in pain, 1448 00:38:57,041 --> 00:38:57,960 Timothy: too, because I don't think he 1449 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,121 Timothy: had skin. 1450 00:38:59,121 --> 00:39:00,420 Timothy: He was otherwise covered in, 1451 00:39:00,420 --> 00:39:02,360 Timothy: like, metallic something, but it 1452 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,920 Timothy: was always like he had exposed 1453 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,701 Timothy: muscles, like 1454 00:39:04,989 --> 00:39:05,750 Adam K: Yeah. 1455 00:39:05,501 --> 00:39:06,601 Timothy: he had no skin. 1456 00:39:06,601 --> 00:39:07,960 Timothy: Ever. How irritating 1457 00:39:07,309 --> 00:39:08,110 Adam K: Speaking of. 1458 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,601 Timothy: would that be if you couldn't sleep because you had no skin? 1459 00:39:10,590 --> 00:39:12,150 Adam K: Yeah, kind of weird because I. 1460 00:39:12,150 --> 00:39:13,110 Adam K: You mentioned Hellraiser 1461 00:39:13,110 --> 00:39:13,429 Adam K: earlier. 1462 00:39:13,429 --> 00:39:15,070 Adam K: He does look like a Cenobite. 1463 00:39:15,161 --> 00:39:16,800 Timothy: He does look like Cenobite. 1464 00:39:16,750 --> 00:39:20,369 Adam K: Yeah. I feel like you could rework Z to be a terabyte. 1465 00:39:20,369 --> 00:39:23,289 Adam K: We got off topic here, but maybe not actually. 1466 00:39:23,061 --> 00:39:24,621 Timothy: Know released back in. 1467 00:39:24,570 --> 00:39:27,170 Adam K: No, there is no topic here. 1468 00:39:28,690 --> 00:39:29,329 Adam K: Um. 1469 00:39:29,221 --> 00:39:30,621 Timothy: You almost got me on fatherhood. 1470 00:39:30,621 --> 00:39:32,701 Timothy: But no one wants to talk about babies. 1471 00:39:33,210 --> 00:39:34,570 Adam K: You are a father. 1472 00:39:34,661 --> 00:39:35,340 Timothy: I am. 1473 00:39:35,489 --> 00:39:37,170 Adam K: I'm as 1474 00:39:36,181 --> 00:39:37,061 Timothy: That's new. 1475 00:39:36,969 --> 00:39:39,289 Adam K: as someone who would one day like to be a father. 1476 00:39:39,289 --> 00:39:42,789 Adam K: I don't know how that's going to happen, but, uh, how is 1477 00:39:42,460 --> 00:39:42,940 Timothy: Just 1478 00:39:42,590 --> 00:39:43,150 Adam K: how 1479 00:39:42,740 --> 00:39:43,181 Timothy: live 1480 00:39:42,949 --> 00:39:43,789 Adam K: is 1481 00:39:42,981 --> 00:39:43,820 Timothy: forever. 1482 00:39:43,590 --> 00:39:47,289 Adam K: that's so I, I mentioned this book to Aaron. 1483 00:39:47,289 --> 00:39:48,489 Adam K: I don't think he read it, but is 1484 00:39:48,489 --> 00:39:49,050 Adam K: this thing called the 1485 00:39:49,050 --> 00:39:50,010 Adam K: Postmortal? 1486 00:39:50,010 --> 00:39:52,050 Adam K: And it's this idea where you get 1487 00:39:52,050 --> 00:39:53,090 Adam K: an injection, you can live 1488 00:39:53,090 --> 00:39:53,610 Adam K: forever. 1489 00:39:53,610 --> 00:39:54,610 Adam K: And there's a part in the book 1490 00:39:54,610 --> 00:39:56,010 Adam K: where the guy who gets the 1491 00:39:56,010 --> 00:39:57,110 Adam K: injection is like, I don't know, 1492 00:39:57,110 --> 00:39:58,489 Adam K: twenty six or whatever author 1493 00:39:58,489 --> 00:40:01,809 Adam K: wishes he was, uh, as the proxy 1494 00:40:01,809 --> 00:40:05,449 Adam K: and he, he has a kid, but he, 1495 00:40:05,449 --> 00:40:08,010 Adam K: he, like he chickens out on 1496 00:40:08,010 --> 00:40:09,489 Adam K: fatherhood and then he, he comes 1497 00:40:09,489 --> 00:40:10,050 Adam K: back later. 1498 00:40:10,050 --> 00:40:12,929 Adam K: But so like internally he's, uh, 1499 00:40:12,929 --> 00:40:14,210 Adam K: whatever, a fifty five year old 1500 00:40:14,210 --> 00:40:16,039 Adam K: man, but outside, he's twenty 1501 00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:17,039 Adam K: six and he meets his son, who's 1502 00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:18,320 Adam K: twenty six and looks just like 1503 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:18,960 Adam K: him. 1504 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:19,641 Timothy: Okay. 1505 00:40:19,039 --> 00:40:20,619 Adam K: I was like, what a, what a what 1506 00:40:20,619 --> 00:40:21,920 Adam K: a way to not have your child 1507 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,000 Adam K: respect you is to look the same 1508 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:24,840 Adam K: as them. 1509 00:40:25,561 --> 00:40:26,481 Timothy: Oh, yeah. 1510 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,360 Adam K: That was my thought. 1511 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,099 Adam K: Like, if your dad looked younger than you, I feel like you would 1512 00:40:31,099 --> 00:40:33,440 Adam K: have never looked up to him. 1513 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,501 Timothy: No, because 1514 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,519 Adam K: Yeah. 1515 00:40:35,300 --> 00:40:41,081 Timothy: part of that is always like, I don't understand what I know. 1516 00:40:41,081 --> 00:40:41,320 Timothy: Yeah. 1517 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,280 Timothy: My, my idea of my dad is much different. 1518 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,481 Timothy: Um, than when I grew up and I, 1519 00:40:47,481 --> 00:40:49,641 Timothy: and part of growing up is slowly 1520 00:40:49,641 --> 00:40:52,760 Timothy: understanding, oh, you're just 1521 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,440 Timothy: like me. 1522 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,201 Timothy: And the slow realization of that, if it happened all at 1523 00:40:56,201 --> 00:41:00,440 Timothy: once, I'm not sure if that learning would have taken place. 1524 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,561 Timothy: And I'm not. 1525 00:41:01,561 --> 00:41:04,041 Timothy: I'm not certain it would be. 1526 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:06,721 Timothy: Yeah. 1527 00:41:06,721 --> 00:41:09,601 Timothy: No, I, I'd have to really whiteboard that out. 1528 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:10,280 Adam K: When? 1529 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,800 Adam K: When will your child figure out 1530 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,039 Adam K: your, uh, your a liar that 1531 00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:15,280 Adam K: you're uh, 1532 00:41:15,021 --> 00:41:16,101 Timothy: Then I'm a liar. 1533 00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:18,380 Adam K: that you're, you're not the god 1534 00:41:18,380 --> 00:41:19,739 Adam K: that they, they thought you 1535 00:41:19,739 --> 00:41:20,420 Adam K: would be. 1536 00:41:22,061 --> 00:41:22,621 Timothy: Oh. 1537 00:41:23,699 --> 00:41:25,500 Adam K: A charlatan, if you will. 1538 00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:26,820 Timothy: I don't know. 1539 00:41:26,820 --> 00:41:30,820 Timothy: I'm gonna try my best not to be a liar, but, 1540 00:41:30,099 --> 00:41:31,019 Adam K: That's good. 1541 00:41:31,621 --> 00:41:35,380 Timothy: uh, there were all of these things that. 1542 00:41:35,380 --> 00:41:39,460 Timothy: That my parents would always say to escape, having to lie to me, 1543 00:41:39,460 --> 00:41:41,940 Timothy: like saying because I said so 1544 00:41:41,659 --> 00:41:42,380 Adam K: Yeah. 1545 00:41:41,740 --> 00:41:46,061 Timothy: that I really detested that I wanted to try and get around. 1546 00:41:46,061 --> 00:41:47,701 Timothy: But that's how I learned. 1547 00:41:47,701 --> 00:41:49,460 Timothy: I'll probably end up doing the same to them. 1548 00:41:49,460 --> 00:41:50,981 Timothy: It's like, oh, I understand now. 1549 00:41:50,981 --> 00:41:52,780 Timothy: Mom and dad, it's 1550 00:41:52,179 --> 00:41:52,800 Adam K: Yeah, 1551 00:41:52,581 --> 00:41:53,101 Timothy: because 1552 00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:53,179 Adam K: I. 1553 00:41:52,900 --> 00:41:54,221 Timothy: I said so. 1554 00:41:54,221 --> 00:41:56,181 Timothy: Now eat your broccoli. 1555 00:41:57,260 --> 00:42:01,480 Adam K: I think also because we, we grew up around the same time, 1556 00:42:01,260 --> 00:42:01,740 Timothy: Oh. 1557 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,579 Adam K: I, I think we probably grew up with a generation of parents 1558 00:42:05,579 --> 00:42:08,699 Adam K: that thought there would be no consequences for anything ever. 1559 00:42:08,699 --> 00:42:11,099 Adam K: So it was just like, life's great. 1560 00:42:11,099 --> 00:42:16,679 Adam K: Uh, we can buy houses for one hundred thousand dollars, and 1561 00:42:16,679 --> 00:42:20,679 Adam K: there will be no record of anything that I do except. 1562 00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:22,500 Adam K: And now we grew up with this, 1563 00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:25,099 Adam K: like, watchful eye, and it's 1564 00:42:25,099 --> 00:42:25,960 Adam K: essentially. 1565 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:26,519 Adam K: It doesn't 1566 00:42:26,041 --> 00:42:26,840 Timothy: Everything 1567 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:26,920 Adam K: help to 1568 00:42:26,641 --> 00:42:27,001 Timothy: is 1569 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:27,059 Adam K: be 1570 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:27,320 Timothy: stored 1571 00:42:26,860 --> 00:42:27,320 Adam K: a. 1572 00:42:27,121 --> 00:42:28,521 Timothy: forever on the internet. 1573 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,679 Adam K: Everything is stored and things 1574 00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:32,159 Adam K: will be remembered and you'll be 1575 00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:33,159 Adam K: held accountable for your 1576 00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:33,639 Adam K: actions. 1577 00:42:33,639 --> 00:42:35,639 Adam K: So. I don't know, like in my 1578 00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:36,840 Adam K: mind, it's just it's always 1579 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,760 Adam K: just, you know, be better than 1580 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:38,440 Adam K: your parents. 1581 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,119 Adam K: That should be the goal. 1582 00:42:40,119 --> 00:42:43,119 Adam K: Um, break the cycle, that sort of stuff. 1583 00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:45,199 Adam K: Um, definitely don't be my dad. 1584 00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:51,420 Adam K: Um, yeah, don't, don't go to Desert Storm, son or 1585 00:42:50,481 --> 00:42:51,240 Timothy: Okay. 1586 00:42:51,219 --> 00:42:57,079 Adam K: me. Um, but I was going to ask, you know, on a serious note. 1587 00:42:57,079 --> 00:42:58,800 Adam K: Ah, because we had talked about 1588 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,159 Adam K: for my fortieth birthday, which 1589 00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:02,000 Adam K: we never did was going on a 1590 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:02,960 Adam K: motorcycle trip. 1591 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,320 Adam K: This was before you were a father though, right? 1592 00:43:05,481 --> 00:43:06,161 Timothy: Yeah. 1593 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:06,199 Adam K: Or was it? 1594 00:43:06,199 --> 00:43:10,880 Adam K: Yeah. So I hear that a lot of people give up the motorcycle 1595 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,219 Adam K: life, uh, once they have a kid, is that something you've 1596 00:43:14,740 --> 00:43:15,380 Timothy: I still 1597 00:43:15,019 --> 00:43:15,539 Adam K: given 1598 00:43:15,181 --> 00:43:15,581 Timothy: have 1599 00:43:15,340 --> 00:43:15,860 Adam K: up? 1600 00:43:15,380 --> 00:43:17,860 Timothy: the motorcycle in the garage, but no, I haven't taken it out 1601 00:43:17,860 --> 00:43:18,621 Timothy: in a while. 1602 00:43:18,659 --> 00:43:19,579 Adam K: Yeah. Does it 1603 00:43:19,260 --> 00:43:19,820 Timothy: Um. 1604 00:43:19,380 --> 00:43:20,539 Adam K: give you pause? 1605 00:43:20,539 --> 00:43:21,659 Adam K: Is it like a second thought of 1606 00:43:21,659 --> 00:43:24,500 Adam K: like, well, now people rely on 1607 00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:25,059 Adam K: me. 1608 00:43:28,780 --> 00:43:33,141 Timothy: Slightly. But here's the thing. 1609 00:43:33,141 --> 00:43:36,221 Timothy: I absolutely understand love. 1610 00:43:36,221 --> 00:43:40,701 Timothy: And in a completely weird and strange capacity now that I did 1611 00:43:40,701 --> 00:43:42,581 Timothy: not believe existed. 1612 00:43:42,581 --> 00:43:44,701 Timothy: When I look at her. 1613 00:43:44,701 --> 00:43:46,340 Timothy: But my daughter. 1614 00:43:46,340 --> 00:43:49,101 Timothy: Um, but 1615 00:43:48,860 --> 00:43:49,219 Adam K: I 1616 00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:49,260 Timothy: I 1617 00:43:49,019 --> 00:43:49,380 Adam K: was 1618 00:43:49,061 --> 00:43:49,661 Timothy: also 1619 00:43:49,179 --> 00:43:50,019 Adam K: just royal. 1620 00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:50,581 Timothy: understand. 1621 00:43:49,860 --> 00:43:50,780 Adam K: The royal her. 1622 00:43:50,780 --> 00:43:51,440 Adam K: Yeah. Like 1623 00:43:51,221 --> 00:43:51,860 Timothy: Yeah. 1624 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,099 Adam K: mother nature. 1625 00:43:52,099 --> 00:43:52,900 Adam K: Gaia. 1626 00:43:53,061 --> 00:43:53,701 Timothy: No. My 1627 00:43:53,460 --> 00:43:54,099 Adam K: Yeah. 1628 00:43:53,501 --> 00:43:54,300 Timothy: daughter. 1629 00:43:54,059 --> 00:43:54,619 Adam K: Okay. 1630 00:43:54,141 --> 00:43:54,661 Timothy: No. 1631 00:43:54,420 --> 00:43:54,820 Adam K: Good. 1632 00:43:54,501 --> 00:43:55,161 Timothy: Her 1633 00:43:54,619 --> 00:43:55,219 Adam K: Okay. 1634 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:55,661 Timothy: nature. 1635 00:43:55,661 --> 00:43:56,581 Timothy: Nature. 1636 00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:57,380 Adam K: The movie. 1637 00:43:57,981 --> 00:44:04,981 Timothy: Um, however, I, I, I also understand that you got to save 1638 00:44:04,981 --> 00:44:07,460 Timothy: some time to live a little bit. 1639 00:44:07,460 --> 00:44:11,291 Timothy: I mean, when I bought the motorcycle, that was the best 1640 00:44:11,291 --> 00:44:13,360 Timothy: therapy that I could ever receive at the time. 1641 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,360 Timothy: It was right at the time of 1642 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,681 Timothy: Covid that got me out of the 1643 00:44:15,681 --> 00:44:17,001 Timothy: house, and I would just do laps 1644 00:44:17,001 --> 00:44:18,481 Timothy: around the city, around 1645 00:44:18,481 --> 00:44:20,041 Timothy: downtown, around, and no one was 1646 00:44:20,041 --> 00:44:21,161 Timothy: out on the road at the time 1647 00:44:21,161 --> 00:44:22,101 Timothy: because no one was going 1648 00:44:22,101 --> 00:44:23,201 Timothy: anywhere. 1649 00:44:23,201 --> 00:44:24,840 Timothy: It was fantastic. 1650 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,481 Timothy: But now I absolutely hate 1651 00:44:26,481 --> 00:44:28,621 Timothy: driving my motorcycle around in 1652 00:44:28,621 --> 00:44:30,360 Timothy: Houston traffic because people 1653 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:31,561 Timothy: are terrible. 1654 00:44:31,561 --> 00:44:31,960 Timothy: And 1655 00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:32,360 Adam K: Yeah. 1656 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:32,960 Timothy: so it kind of ruins it. 1657 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,201 Timothy: So it's been sitting in the garage a lot. 1658 00:44:35,201 --> 00:44:35,800 Timothy: Um, 1659 00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:36,880 Adam K: And 1660 00:44:36,601 --> 00:44:37,081 Timothy: so 1661 00:44:36,679 --> 00:44:37,199 Adam K: you can't 1662 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:37,340 Timothy: I don't 1663 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:37,519 Adam K: Lane 1664 00:44:37,141 --> 00:44:37,641 Timothy: know. 1665 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,400 Adam K: split, right? 1666 00:44:38,601 --> 00:44:40,001 Timothy: No, not in Texas. 1667 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,239 Adam K: You don't have to wear a helmet, but you can't Lane split. 1668 00:44:43,561 --> 00:44:44,440 Timothy: You don't have 1669 00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:44,679 Adam K: Right. 1670 00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:45,320 Timothy: to wear a helmet, but. 1671 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,561 Timothy: Oh man, it's sure a good idea. 1672 00:44:47,679 --> 00:44:48,360 Adam K: You would think. 1673 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,039 Adam K: Right? 1674 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:49,601 Timothy: Yeah. 1675 00:44:49,559 --> 00:44:50,880 Adam K: Yeah. Uh, what kind of bike? 1676 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:51,960 Adam K: I'm just curious. 1677 00:44:52,121 --> 00:44:54,721 Timothy: Uh, Yamaha s e r nine fifty. 1678 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:55,599 Adam K: Okay. 1679 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,880 Timothy: It's the twenty seventeen version. 1680 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,159 Adam K: So it's got some kick. 1681 00:45:00,161 --> 00:45:00,641 Timothy: It's 1682 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:00,679 Adam K: I 1683 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:00,920 Timothy: got 1684 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:01,079 Adam K: mean. 1685 00:45:00,721 --> 00:45:02,880 Timothy: a lot of kick for my first bike, for sure. 1686 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,201 Timothy: I had to rein it in. 1687 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,440 Adam K: Yeah, I, I went to the Harley dealership. 1688 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,309 Adam K: Not that I would ever ride a Harley, but they had an FTR, uh, 1689 00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:12,940 Adam K: Indian FDR to test drive. 1690 00:45:12,940 --> 00:45:15,739 Adam K: And I was also trying to see how much I get for my rebel because 1691 00:45:15,739 --> 00:45:18,139 Adam K: it's it's a it's a five hundred. 1692 00:45:18,139 --> 00:45:18,980 Adam K: It's not very fast. 1693 00:45:18,980 --> 00:45:20,300 Adam K: It's not very beefy. 1694 00:45:20,221 --> 00:45:20,780 Timothy: That's just 1695 00:45:20,460 --> 00:45:21,480 Adam K: Uh, 1696 00:45:20,581 --> 00:45:21,460 Timothy: what you need. 1697 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,059 Adam K: it was my starter bike. 1698 00:45:23,059 --> 00:45:23,659 Adam K: It was like, 1699 00:45:23,380 --> 00:45:23,981 Timothy: Yeah. 1700 00:45:23,460 --> 00:45:26,099 Adam K: okay, this is same as you just like get around the city. 1701 00:45:26,099 --> 00:45:26,900 Adam K: This is okay. 1702 00:45:26,900 --> 00:45:29,099 Adam K: We downgraded to, I wouldn't say downgraded. 1703 00:45:29,099 --> 00:45:30,619 Adam K: We consolidated to one car 1704 00:45:30,619 --> 00:45:33,320 Adam K: instead of two because, uh, LA 1705 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:33,699 Adam K: sucks. 1706 00:45:33,699 --> 00:45:37,199 Adam K: It actually makes more sense in LA to have a bike because you 1707 00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:41,880 Adam K: are often just walking up very slowly to traffic lights, like, 1708 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,820 Adam K: and then getting ahead of everyone and then getting to the 1709 00:45:43,820 --> 00:45:44,460 Adam K: next traffic light. 1710 00:45:44,460 --> 00:45:46,340 Adam K: So like made sense for me. 1711 00:45:46,340 --> 00:45:49,500 Adam K: Um, but I was just like, so part of me is like, well probably get 1712 00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:49,980 Adam K: rid of it. 1713 00:45:49,980 --> 00:45:53,179 Adam K: At least sell it, use the cash for something, um, depending on 1714 00:45:53,179 --> 00:45:54,579 Adam K: where life goes. 1715 00:45:54,579 --> 00:45:57,539 Adam K: But then I was like, oh, they have the FDR and I wrote it and 1716 00:45:57,539 --> 00:46:01,320 Adam K: it's the first bike I've ever ridden that could corner and 1717 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,500 Adam K: like go fast. 1718 00:46:03,500 --> 00:46:05,739 Adam K: And it had more than four gears. 1719 00:46:05,739 --> 00:46:10,000 Adam K: And, uh, you know, it wanted to keep going faster. 1720 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,960 Adam K: And I was like, oh, oh, this is what a big back tire feels like. 1721 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:14,340 Adam K: Oh 1722 00:46:14,121 --> 00:46:15,001 Timothy: Yeah. 1723 00:46:14,139 --> 00:46:15,119 Adam K: my God. 1724 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:15,880 Timothy: Did 1725 00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:16,159 Adam K: Uh, 1726 00:46:15,681 --> 00:46:16,340 Timothy: you figure 1727 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:16,639 Adam K: and. 1728 00:46:16,141 --> 00:46:20,121 Timothy: out like, did you figure out your own limit? 1729 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,920 Adam K: No, because it was, it was a, it was a chaperoned ride along. 1730 00:46:24,481 --> 00:46:25,601 Timothy: Ah, yes. 1731 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:25,900 Adam K: Uh, so 1732 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,041 Timothy: Okay. 1733 00:46:25,699 --> 00:46:28,519 Adam K: I was following the, the nice gentleman in front of me. 1734 00:46:28,519 --> 00:46:30,039 Adam K: He was on his Harley. 1735 00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:30,559 Adam K: And so I 1736 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:30,800 Timothy: Uh. 1737 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,480 Adam K: was just on the FDR and it was like, it was a little bit of a 1738 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,960 Adam K: learning curve just because it was like, okay, my, my foot, the 1739 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,719 Adam K: shifter is back a little bit. 1740 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:38,360 Adam K: So that's different. 1741 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,619 Adam K: Probably similar to yours is 1742 00:46:39,619 --> 00:46:42,579 Adam K: like next to the chain probably 1743 00:46:42,579 --> 00:46:43,800 Adam K: because, 1744 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,360 Timothy: Uh, no, it's. 1745 00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:45,760 Adam K: oh no, it's a Yamaha. 1746 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:46,420 Adam K: It's, 1747 00:46:46,201 --> 00:46:46,721 Timothy: Yeah, 1748 00:46:46,219 --> 00:46:46,840 Adam K: uh, 1749 00:46:46,521 --> 00:46:47,641 Timothy: it's belt driven. 1750 00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:50,960 Adam K: yeah, it's, it's like a, um, what's it called? 1751 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,780 Timothy: It's like a bolt, 1752 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:52,920 Adam K: Yeah. Okay. 1753 00:46:52,581 --> 00:46:53,280 Timothy: almost 1754 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:53,559 Adam K: Gotcha. 1755 00:46:53,081 --> 00:46:54,880 Timothy: identical to to the bolt, except 1756 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,561 Timothy: for, uh, the bench seat is nice 1757 00:46:58,561 --> 00:46:59,641 Timothy: and straight, and so they made 1758 00:46:59,641 --> 00:47:00,440 Timothy: it look kind of like a 1759 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,681 Timothy: scrambler, except 1760 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:02,239 Adam K: Okay. 1761 00:47:03,481 --> 00:47:06,760 Timothy: there's, there's no way that you can take a scrambler and, and, 1762 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,300 Timothy: and jump it over a barbed wire fence like like you do in 1763 00:47:09,989 --> 00:47:10,590 Adam K: Steve 1764 00:47:10,101 --> 00:47:10,820 Timothy: the movies. 1765 00:47:10,389 --> 00:47:11,110 Adam K: McQueen. 1766 00:47:10,621 --> 00:47:11,181 Timothy: It's. 1767 00:47:10,909 --> 00:47:11,550 Adam K: Yeah. 1768 00:47:11,021 --> 00:47:12,460 Timothy: Yeah, that's what I wanted it for. 1769 00:47:12,460 --> 00:47:14,420 Timothy: Is that that Steve McQueen look. 1770 00:47:14,469 --> 00:47:15,070 Adam K: Yeah. 1771 00:47:14,860 --> 00:47:15,621 Timothy: Um. 1772 00:47:14,989 --> 00:47:16,909 Adam K: Gotta get a, get a get a BMW for that. 1773 00:47:16,909 --> 00:47:18,429 Adam K: Get German engineering. 1774 00:47:18,420 --> 00:47:19,260 Timothy: Yeah, it 1775 00:47:19,030 --> 00:47:19,710 Adam K: Yeah. 1776 00:47:19,061 --> 00:47:20,780 Timothy: needs it needs some more shock absorbers. 1777 00:47:20,780 --> 00:47:23,300 Timothy: It needs it needs some more ground clearance, for sure. 1778 00:47:23,269 --> 00:47:30,550 Adam K: Yeah. Um but no I, yes I. It, I, I felt that feeling that you 1779 00:47:30,550 --> 00:47:34,349 Adam K: were just talking about that like therapeutic, like this 1780 00:47:34,349 --> 00:47:39,389 Adam K: cannot be described with words even in a, in a book written by 1781 00:47:39,389 --> 00:47:42,510 Adam K: an insane person about the Zen of motorcycle maintenance. 1782 00:47:42,510 --> 00:47:46,269 Adam K: It's like nothing captures that feeling. 1783 00:47:46,269 --> 00:47:49,030 Adam K: And I know a lot of people call it freedom or whatever it is, 1784 00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:56,929 Adam K: but it's just like that, that that fear and that excitement, I 1785 00:47:56,929 --> 00:47:59,750 Adam K: don't know what to call it, but it was just like you. 1786 00:47:59,750 --> 00:48:04,550 Adam K: You feel this moment of it's almost just pure bliss. 1787 00:48:04,501 --> 00:48:05,181 Timothy: You're just 1788 00:48:04,829 --> 00:48:05,429 Adam K: It. 1789 00:48:04,981 --> 00:48:06,661 Timothy: mainlining life. 1790 00:48:06,530 --> 00:48:09,969 Adam K: Yeah. And and it was just in the Marina Harbor. 1791 00:48:09,969 --> 00:48:10,530 Adam K: Like we 1792 00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:11,001 Timothy: Yeah. 1793 00:48:10,329 --> 00:48:11,730 Adam K: weren't going far. 1794 00:48:11,730 --> 00:48:13,710 Adam K: It is, it was near the, uh, 1795 00:48:13,710 --> 00:48:15,070 Adam K: there's a small little stretch 1796 00:48:15,070 --> 00:48:15,449 Adam K: of highway. 1797 00:48:15,449 --> 00:48:17,690 Adam K: It's a ninety, it's the ninety highway. 1798 00:48:17,690 --> 00:48:21,210 Adam K: Um, it only goes from like Marina del Rey to like just 1799 00:48:21,210 --> 00:48:22,730 Adam K: outside of Culver City. 1800 00:48:22,730 --> 00:48:24,650 Adam K: Um, but it's usually empty and 1801 00:48:24,650 --> 00:48:26,010 Adam K: there's rarely cops on there and 1802 00:48:26,010 --> 00:48:27,030 Adam K: people are pretty much going 1803 00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:29,369 Adam K: eighty and like, I take my bike 1804 00:48:29,369 --> 00:48:31,050 Adam K: on there and it's pretty bumpy 1805 00:48:31,050 --> 00:48:32,170 Adam K: and the winds knocking me 1806 00:48:32,170 --> 00:48:32,650 Adam K: around. 1807 00:48:32,650 --> 00:48:36,809 Adam K: And I was just like, I thought, what would be the worst thing if 1808 00:48:36,809 --> 00:48:39,690 Adam K: I, I went off course a little bit and I just did a quick lap. 1809 00:48:39,690 --> 00:48:41,289 Adam K: Uh, but the guy was keeping an 1810 00:48:41,289 --> 00:48:42,730 Adam K: eye on me, so I didn't quite do 1811 00:48:42,730 --> 00:48:42,969 Adam K: that. 1812 00:48:42,969 --> 00:48:49,030 Adam K: But yeah, I, I don't know, there's something about the 1813 00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:52,090 Adam K: coastal drive or like I, I was pitching to you going to like 1814 00:48:52,090 --> 00:48:55,650 Adam K: Montana or something like that and just doing the backroads and 1815 00:48:55,650 --> 00:48:58,230 Adam K: being able to corner around something without, you know, 1816 00:48:58,230 --> 00:49:00,050 Adam K: driving like an asshole, just 1817 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:00,601 Timothy: No. 1818 00:48:59,849 --> 00:49:03,210 Adam K: like there's something nice about the bike and nature. 1819 00:49:03,210 --> 00:49:05,010 Adam K: And I don't know, it's. 1820 00:49:04,601 --> 00:49:06,981 Timothy: I've never had a need for speed either. 1821 00:49:06,981 --> 00:49:07,940 Timothy: I usually when 1822 00:49:07,590 --> 00:49:08,150 Adam K: Yeah, 1823 00:49:07,740 --> 00:49:10,181 Timothy: I go out in a group, I'll get left behind 1824 00:49:09,949 --> 00:49:10,590 Adam K: yeah. 1825 00:49:09,981 --> 00:49:12,061 Timothy: and I'd be like, where's the point? 1826 00:49:12,061 --> 00:49:14,300 Timothy: You need to tell me where we're going to end up, because I'll be 1827 00:49:14,300 --> 00:49:15,621 Timothy: there five minutes later. 1828 00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:21,789 Adam K: Yeah. Um, so I don't know what I would find that would replace 1829 00:49:21,789 --> 00:49:27,150 Adam K: that feeling, um, of, for lack of a better word, freedom. 1830 00:49:27,150 --> 00:49:29,190 Adam K: Uh, for just, you know, 1831 00:49:28,940 --> 00:49:30,141 Timothy: I don't really know. 1832 00:49:29,989 --> 00:49:31,510 Adam K: two wheeled bliss. 1833 00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:32,269 Adam K: I don't know. 1834 00:49:32,269 --> 00:49:32,869 Adam K: Yeah. 1835 00:49:32,869 --> 00:49:35,349 Adam K: So I'm torn at the moment. 1836 00:49:35,349 --> 00:49:37,070 Adam K: Like, do I continue down this or 1837 00:49:37,070 --> 00:49:39,510 Adam K: do I get into quilting or 1838 00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:40,269 Adam K: something? 1839 00:49:40,021 --> 00:49:40,621 Timothy: Maybe 1840 00:49:40,070 --> 00:49:40,909 Adam K: I don't know. 1841 00:49:40,420 --> 00:49:41,501 Timothy: skydiving. 1842 00:49:41,501 --> 00:49:44,380 Timothy: I don't know for for a, for adrenaline junkies. 1843 00:49:44,380 --> 00:49:47,061 Timothy: I don't think quilting is going to quite do 1844 00:49:46,829 --> 00:49:47,489 Adam K: I'm 1845 00:49:46,860 --> 00:49:47,460 Timothy: it. 1846 00:49:47,289 --> 00:49:47,710 Adam K: that's 1847 00:49:47,380 --> 00:49:47,740 Timothy: And 1848 00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:47,789 Adam K: the 1849 00:49:47,541 --> 00:49:47,900 Timothy: I'm 1850 00:49:47,590 --> 00:49:47,969 Adam K: thing 1851 00:49:47,701 --> 00:49:48,061 Timothy: not 1852 00:49:47,769 --> 00:49:48,190 Adam K: though, 1853 00:49:47,860 --> 00:49:48,501 Timothy: sure 1854 00:49:47,989 --> 00:49:48,469 Adam K: like. 1855 00:49:48,300 --> 00:49:51,780 Timothy: if if I've ever considered myself an adrenaline junkie, but 1856 00:49:51,780 --> 00:49:52,740 Timothy: I did find 1857 00:49:52,429 --> 00:49:52,989 Adam K: Yeah. 1858 00:49:52,541 --> 00:49:55,021 Timothy: myself attracted to the idea of a motorcycle. 1859 00:49:55,021 --> 00:49:57,021 Timothy: And then when I got on it, it was just like. 1860 00:49:58,860 --> 00:50:00,860 Timothy: Okay, the choice is live or die. 1861 00:50:00,860 --> 00:50:02,380 Timothy: What do you want live? 1862 00:50:02,380 --> 00:50:03,701 Timothy: Okay, that's what we're 1863 00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:03,909 Adam K: Yeah. 1864 00:50:03,501 --> 00:50:06,001 Timothy: focused on, and everything else falls away. 1865 00:50:06,250 --> 00:50:08,510 Adam K: Yeah, I'm, 1866 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:08,760 Timothy: It's the best therapy. 1867 00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:09,110 Adam K: I 1868 00:50:08,561 --> 00:50:09,240 Timothy: The best, 1869 00:50:08,909 --> 00:50:09,269 Adam K: am 1870 00:50:09,041 --> 00:50:09,481 Timothy: best 1871 00:50:09,070 --> 00:50:10,030 Adam K: not 1872 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,081 Timothy: therapy. 1873 00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:11,690 Adam K: I am not an adrenaline junkie. 1874 00:50:11,690 --> 00:50:14,050 Adam K: I am actually in constant fear of my life. 1875 00:50:14,561 --> 00:50:15,121 Timothy: Yeah, 1876 00:50:14,650 --> 00:50:15,630 Adam K: Uh, 1877 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:15,960 Timothy: it's the same. 1878 00:50:15,429 --> 00:50:16,889 Adam K: yeah, I. 1879 00:50:16,561 --> 00:50:18,601 Timothy: Look, I have a polo shirt on and 1880 00:50:18,601 --> 00:50:21,161 Timothy: glasses for for all of my 1881 00:50:21,161 --> 00:50:22,481 Timothy: computer staring. 1882 00:50:22,481 --> 00:50:23,081 Timothy: Of course. 1883 00:50:23,081 --> 00:50:26,280 Timothy: But you get on a motorcycle, it feels complete. 1884 00:50:26,369 --> 00:50:30,449 Adam K: Yeah. And I actually, I know the 1885 00:50:30,449 --> 00:50:32,210 Adam K: metal glasses are not cool and 1886 00:50:32,210 --> 00:50:33,389 Adam K: they're known as pervert 1887 00:50:33,389 --> 00:50:36,550 Adam K: glasses, but I actually had a 1888 00:50:36,550 --> 00:50:37,869 Adam K: because I wear glasses when I 1889 00:50:37,869 --> 00:50:39,849 Adam K: ride just because I gave up on 1890 00:50:39,849 --> 00:50:40,289 Adam K: contacts. 1891 00:50:40,289 --> 00:50:42,050 Adam K: It was too complicated, but I 1892 00:50:41,561 --> 00:50:42,081 Timothy: Wait, is 1893 00:50:41,849 --> 00:50:43,010 Adam K: actually, 1894 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,081 Timothy: that what you're wearing right now? 1895 00:50:42,809 --> 00:50:44,070 Adam K: um, 1896 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,041 Timothy: Is metal glasses? 1897 00:50:43,869 --> 00:50:45,489 Adam K: no, no, no, I don't own them. 1898 00:50:45,489 --> 00:50:46,250 Adam K: No, 1899 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:46,521 Timothy: Oh, okay. 1900 00:50:46,050 --> 00:50:47,090 Adam K: no, I'm not recording this. 1901 00:50:47,090 --> 00:50:47,530 Adam K: Don't worry. 1902 00:50:47,530 --> 00:50:49,210 Adam K: Even though we're recording 1903 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:49,201 Timothy: You are. 1904 00:50:49,010 --> 00:50:53,210 Adam K: all of this California law, you know, um, I would never wear 1905 00:50:53,210 --> 00:50:54,809 Adam K: them like in public. 1906 00:50:54,809 --> 00:50:57,769 Adam K: But what I'm seeing a lot of people doing is basically 1907 00:50:57,769 --> 00:51:02,170 Adam K: getting rid of their GoPros or their Insta360, and they're just 1908 00:51:02,170 --> 00:51:04,429 Adam K: wearing the glasses under their helmet because they can record 1909 00:51:04,429 --> 00:51:07,030 Adam K: their driving, um, with them. 1910 00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:10,909 Adam K: And then I think you can also do like, um, like maps and stuff. 1911 00:51:10,909 --> 00:51:13,469 Adam K: And then also there's like a little radio in the back. 1912 00:51:13,469 --> 00:51:15,909 Adam K: So it kind of replaces like the Senna. 1913 00:51:15,909 --> 00:51:17,909 Adam K: It replaces so much and it's like, okay, now you're just 1914 00:51:17,909 --> 00:51:18,389 Adam K: wearing the thing. 1915 00:51:18,389 --> 00:51:21,269 Adam K: I was like, that is a great use case actually. 1916 00:51:21,269 --> 00:51:22,469 Adam K: And then 1917 00:51:22,251 --> 00:51:22,891 Timothy: Huh? 1918 00:51:22,269 --> 00:51:24,230 Adam K: I don't know, like if, if I'm in 1919 00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:25,269 Adam K: public, maybe I'll just, I'll 1920 00:51:25,269 --> 00:51:26,550 Adam K: put some tape over it or 1921 00:51:26,550 --> 00:51:27,030 Adam K: something. 1922 00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:28,090 Adam K: But 1923 00:51:27,251 --> 00:51:28,190 Timothy: Yeah, 1924 00:51:27,889 --> 00:51:28,949 Adam K: yeah. 1925 00:51:27,990 --> 00:51:32,811 Timothy: except I never could get into wearing glasses inside of my 1926 00:51:32,811 --> 00:51:36,010 Timothy: helmet because I had a full face, full shield, and 1927 00:51:35,429 --> 00:51:36,110 Adam K: Mhm. 1928 00:51:35,811 --> 00:51:38,931 Timothy: if I had glasses on, they would always fog up. 1929 00:51:38,931 --> 00:51:40,891 Timothy: I love wearing my glasses. 1930 00:51:40,891 --> 00:51:42,251 Timothy: Uh. I see more clearly with 1931 00:51:42,251 --> 00:51:43,931 Timothy: glasses on rather than contact 1932 00:51:43,931 --> 00:51:44,771 Timothy: lenses. 1933 00:51:44,771 --> 00:51:49,530 Timothy: But whenever it came to riding, it would always have to be my 1934 00:51:49,530 --> 00:51:52,331 Timothy: visor or glasses. 1935 00:51:52,429 --> 00:51:54,530 Adam K: Yeah. I guess maybe my helmet's 1936 00:51:54,530 --> 00:51:56,530 Adam K: just really bad and air gets in 1937 00:51:56,530 --> 00:51:57,630 Adam K: much easier. 1938 00:51:57,630 --> 00:51:59,590 Adam K: Maybe it's the giant hole in the back. 1939 00:51:59,851 --> 00:52:00,411 Timothy: Yeah. 1940 00:51:59,949 --> 00:52:00,550 Adam K: Uh, 1941 00:52:01,331 --> 00:52:01,931 Timothy: Why 1942 00:52:01,349 --> 00:52:02,320 Adam K: it was, 1943 00:52:01,731 --> 00:52:03,550 Timothy: is there a hole in the back of your helmet? 1944 00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:05,210 Adam K: Uh, it was just, you know, it 1945 00:52:05,210 --> 00:52:06,409 Adam K: was more than half off on 1946 00:52:06,409 --> 00:52:07,449 Adam K: Facebook Marketplace. 1947 00:52:07,449 --> 00:52:08,289 Adam K: So, 1948 00:52:07,630 --> 00:52:08,391 Timothy: Fair enough. 1949 00:52:08,090 --> 00:52:12,090 Adam K: uh, before we go, I do want to read one message. 1950 00:52:12,090 --> 00:52:15,750 Adam K: Uh, so I put my bike up on Facebook marketplace, 1951 00:52:15,391 --> 00:52:15,990 Timothy: Sure. 1952 00:52:15,550 --> 00:52:19,889 Adam K: um, and dealing with, I don't know if you've ever sold 1953 00:52:19,889 --> 00:52:21,130 Adam K: anything on there. 1954 00:52:21,130 --> 00:52:21,750 Adam K: Um, but 1955 00:52:21,311 --> 00:52:22,090 Timothy: Yes, 1956 00:52:21,550 --> 00:52:22,110 Adam K: it's, 1957 00:52:21,891 --> 00:52:22,990 Timothy: unfortunately. 1958 00:52:21,909 --> 00:52:24,849 Adam K: it's basically, it's the worse of the worse. 1959 00:52:24,751 --> 00:52:25,590 Timothy: Yeah, I hate 1960 00:52:25,329 --> 00:52:26,050 Adam K: Um, 1961 00:52:25,391 --> 00:52:25,831 Timothy: it. 1962 00:52:25,849 --> 00:52:30,929 Adam K: so this was from a gentleman, um, from Darryl. 1963 00:52:31,630 --> 00:52:32,510 Timothy: Thanks, Darryl. 1964 00:52:32,530 --> 00:52:36,369 Adam K: Darryl, I believe, drives a forklift for a living. 1965 00:52:36,369 --> 00:52:37,210 Adam K: Um, 1966 00:52:36,550 --> 00:52:37,431 Timothy: Good for him. 1967 00:52:37,010 --> 00:52:40,969 Adam K: he has some AI images of Jesus on the forklift. 1968 00:52:40,969 --> 00:52:42,650 Adam K: Um, but 1969 00:52:41,911 --> 00:52:42,710 Timothy: Yeah. 1970 00:52:42,449 --> 00:52:45,530 Adam K: so, so I listed the bike it's on there. 1971 00:52:45,530 --> 00:52:48,010 Adam K: He says, man, that bike frame is tiny. 1972 00:52:48,010 --> 00:52:50,449 Adam K: It looks like my little sister should be riding it. 1973 00:52:50,449 --> 00:52:52,449 Adam K: Nah, it's my little sister, dude. 1974 00:52:52,449 --> 00:52:55,610 Adam K: I'm going to go ahead and pay another two thousand dollars and 1975 00:52:55,610 --> 00:52:57,449 Adam K: get her a brand new one. 1976 00:52:57,449 --> 00:52:58,170 Adam K: Hey, sis. 1977 00:52:58,170 --> 00:52:59,570 Adam K: Enjoy your ride. 1978 00:53:01,570 --> 00:53:02,170 Timothy: Was 1979 00:53:01,869 --> 00:53:02,190 Adam K: I 1980 00:53:01,971 --> 00:53:02,331 Timothy: that 1981 00:53:01,989 --> 00:53:02,869 Adam K: was, 1982 00:53:02,130 --> 00:53:03,010 Timothy: necessary? 1983 00:53:02,670 --> 00:53:03,989 Adam K: I don't know. 1984 00:53:05,230 --> 00:53:05,670 Adam K: And 1985 00:53:05,331 --> 00:53:05,931 Timothy: It was. 1986 00:53:05,469 --> 00:53:06,110 Adam K: I was 1987 00:53:05,851 --> 00:53:06,291 Timothy: This 1988 00:53:05,909 --> 00:53:06,309 Adam K: like. 1989 00:53:06,090 --> 00:53:07,811 Timothy: was to buy your Honda Rebel. 1990 00:53:08,550 --> 00:53:12,789 Adam K: We're just, I don't know, maybe he was a bid for connection. 1991 00:53:13,451 --> 00:53:14,291 Timothy: Okay. 1992 00:53:14,550 --> 00:53:15,110 Adam K: Either 1993 00:53:14,731 --> 00:53:15,451 Timothy: You see? 1994 00:53:14,909 --> 00:53:17,230 Adam K: way, I hope, I hope the AI wins is what 1995 00:53:16,931 --> 00:53:17,690 Timothy: Yeah. 1996 00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:21,630 Adam K: I'm saying. Yeah. If I have to deal with this shit, um, 1997 00:53:20,771 --> 00:53:23,190 Timothy: And, yeah, I 1998 00:53:22,429 --> 00:53:23,269 Adam K: I. 1999 00:53:22,990 --> 00:53:24,530 Timothy: hope I hope for the Daryl's of 2000 00:53:24,530 --> 00:53:26,751 Timothy: the world that that because 2001 00:53:26,751 --> 00:53:28,411 Timothy: we'll we'll we'll all be put in 2002 00:53:28,411 --> 00:53:32,130 Timothy: our place of of just being a 2003 00:53:32,130 --> 00:53:33,411 Timothy: meat resource. 2004 00:53:33,469 --> 00:53:34,670 Adam K: Yeah. Or. 2005 00:53:34,090 --> 00:53:35,771 Timothy: And so if we're all down hanging 2006 00:53:35,771 --> 00:53:38,710 Timothy: out with Daryl's of the world, 2007 00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:40,831 Timothy: then, uh, I hope we can find 2008 00:53:40,831 --> 00:53:42,130 Timothy: some way to get along with one 2009 00:53:42,130 --> 00:53:43,130 Timothy: another again. 2010 00:53:43,110 --> 00:53:45,630 Adam K: I spent all weekend thinking of 2011 00:53:45,630 --> 00:53:49,150 Adam K: replies of just being like, so 2012 00:53:49,150 --> 00:53:51,789 Adam K: did you want to buy it or like, 2013 00:53:51,789 --> 00:53:52,730 Adam K: uh, or 2014 00:53:52,451 --> 00:53:53,210 Timothy: Yeah. 2015 00:53:52,530 --> 00:53:54,550 Adam K: be like, is everything okay? 2016 00:53:54,550 --> 00:53:57,190 Adam K: Um, I went to the negative place 2017 00:53:57,190 --> 00:53:59,989 Adam K: of I don't, I, I don't think 2018 00:53:59,989 --> 00:54:00,969 Adam K: this bike would work for 2019 00:54:00,969 --> 00:54:02,250 Adam K: overweight people. 2020 00:54:02,391 --> 00:54:03,030 Timothy: Yeah. 2021 00:54:04,570 --> 00:54:07,409 Adam K: Or like you're right, the frame is too small for her. 2022 00:54:07,710 --> 00:54:08,471 Timothy: Yeah. 2023 00:54:08,130 --> 00:54:11,329 Adam K: Um, but I don't but that's, that's just mean. 2024 00:54:11,329 --> 00:54:12,849 Adam K: And it's 2025 00:54:12,550 --> 00:54:13,110 Timothy: Petty. 2026 00:54:12,650 --> 00:54:13,630 Adam K: every, 2027 00:54:12,951 --> 00:54:13,630 Timothy: Yeah. 2028 00:54:13,429 --> 00:54:14,769 Adam K: every 2029 00:54:13,550 --> 00:54:14,951 Timothy: But he started it. 2030 00:54:14,570 --> 00:54:18,329 Adam K: he did start it and he's like looking for a fight, but also 2031 00:54:18,329 --> 00:54:21,730 Adam K: like looking at his profile, which I was like, why am I 2032 00:54:21,730 --> 00:54:22,610 Adam K: looking at his profile? 2033 00:54:22,610 --> 00:54:25,050 Adam K: I felt more bad for the guy. 2034 00:54:25,050 --> 00:54:28,489 Adam K: Um, so I'm thinking like, I'm just like, okay, clearly this is 2035 00:54:28,489 --> 00:54:32,070 Adam K: not a guy who's got everything going on in his life that he, 2036 00:54:31,271 --> 00:54:31,831 Timothy: No. 2037 00:54:31,869 --> 00:54:37,170 Adam K: he's trying to, I don't know, nag me on or something. 2038 00:54:37,911 --> 00:54:38,510 Timothy: Ah! 2039 00:54:38,090 --> 00:54:38,889 Adam K: So I was like, I was like 2040 00:54:38,889 --> 00:54:40,590 Adam K: bothered by it, but then I, I, I 2041 00:54:40,590 --> 00:54:41,929 Adam K: forgot about it until we started 2042 00:54:41,929 --> 00:54:42,929 Adam K: talking now. 2043 00:54:42,590 --> 00:54:43,110 Timothy: He 2044 00:54:42,889 --> 00:54:43,530 Adam K: So. 2045 00:54:42,911 --> 00:54:45,471 Timothy: wants he wants some kind of an interaction. 2046 00:54:46,010 --> 00:54:46,570 Adam K: Right. 2047 00:54:46,570 --> 00:54:47,130 Adam K: Yeah. 2048 00:54:46,871 --> 00:54:47,471 Timothy: And 2049 00:54:46,969 --> 00:54:47,769 Adam K: I think. 2050 00:54:47,271 --> 00:54:50,231 Timothy: and and if you work in the trades long enough. 2051 00:54:51,271 --> 00:54:54,030 Timothy: I love tradesmen because you can 2052 00:54:54,030 --> 00:54:56,010 Timothy: say anything to them and they 2053 00:54:56,010 --> 00:54:56,871 Timothy: won't. 2054 00:54:56,871 --> 00:54:58,150 Timothy: They, they won't write on the 2055 00:54:58,150 --> 00:54:59,710 Timothy: internet about it and they will 2056 00:54:59,710 --> 00:55:01,090 Timothy: either fight you or they'll 2057 00:55:01,090 --> 00:55:01,971 Timothy: laugh. 2058 00:55:01,971 --> 00:55:02,871 Timothy: And 2059 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:02,679 Adam K: Yeah. 2060 00:55:02,670 --> 00:55:04,251 Timothy: there's something honest about that. 2061 00:55:04,251 --> 00:55:06,771 Timothy: Construction workers, tradesmen. 2062 00:55:06,771 --> 00:55:09,771 Timothy: I love a good poop dick and fart joke. 2063 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:10,840 Adam K: Yeah. 2064 00:55:10,291 --> 00:55:11,931 Timothy: I would, I would get along. 2065 00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:19,039 Adam K: Daryl looks like he's in his late fifties, early sixties. 2066 00:55:19,039 --> 00:55:20,840 Adam K: Probably has had a bit of a rough life. 2067 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:21,360 Adam K: Some pictures. 2068 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,000 Adam K: He's got a pretty good mustache. 2069 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,440 Adam K: Other times he's shaved and he 2070 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:25,440 Adam K: looks like he's, like, trying to 2071 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:26,519 Adam K: get sober. 2072 00:55:26,519 --> 00:55:27,199 Adam K: Um, 2073 00:55:26,530 --> 00:55:27,090 Timothy: Uh. 2074 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,559 Adam K: uh, he has pictures of 2075 00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:31,719 Adam K: motorcycles that I positive he 2076 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:32,760 Adam K: doesn't own. 2077 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,679 Adam K: They're just, you know, it's essentially a Pinterest board. 2078 00:55:35,679 --> 00:55:40,480 Adam K: So I don't I don't think I'll respond. 2079 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:41,440 Adam K: Um, 2080 00:55:41,251 --> 00:55:42,451 Timothy: We love you, Daryl. 2081 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:43,159 Adam K: yeah. 2082 00:55:42,771 --> 00:55:43,391 Timothy: Uh, we 2083 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:43,719 Adam K: Daryl. 2084 00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:45,490 Timothy: hope that we hope you'll you'll get happy. 2085 00:55:45,490 --> 00:55:46,210 Timothy: And. 2086 00:55:46,210 --> 00:55:48,371 Timothy: And maybe the Honda isn't for you. 2087 00:55:48,371 --> 00:55:52,690 Timothy: But I want to know that we need more of those jokes. 2088 00:55:52,690 --> 00:55:54,530 Timothy: Send us more jokes and and 2089 00:55:54,530 --> 00:55:55,731 Timothy: pictures of your of your 2090 00:55:55,731 --> 00:55:56,851 Timothy: overweight daughter. 2091 00:55:57,039 --> 00:55:59,019 Adam K: Was he calling me sis? 2092 00:55:59,019 --> 00:56:04,179 Adam K: Or was he talking to his sister through a message to me? 2093 00:56:04,179 --> 00:56:04,739 Adam K: I'm. 2094 00:56:04,550 --> 00:56:05,271 Timothy: It's hard to say. 2095 00:56:05,271 --> 00:56:07,791 Timothy: Maybe he was calling you sister. 2096 00:56:07,900 --> 00:56:08,860 Adam K: Right. 2097 00:56:08,231 --> 00:56:09,911 Timothy: Like. Like brother. 2098 00:56:09,911 --> 00:56:10,710 Timothy: Sister? 2099 00:56:10,699 --> 00:56:11,300 Adam K: Yeah. 2100 00:56:10,871 --> 00:56:11,331 Timothy: I don't 2101 00:56:11,099 --> 00:56:11,619 Adam K: Or 2102 00:56:11,130 --> 00:56:11,550 Timothy: know. 2103 00:56:11,420 --> 00:56:12,820 Adam K: basically saying like, I 2104 00:56:12,820 --> 00:56:14,619 Adam K: wouldn't buy I wouldn't buy this 2105 00:56:14,619 --> 00:56:16,300 Adam K: bike for my sister who's more of 2106 00:56:16,300 --> 00:56:17,639 Adam K: a man than you are, which is 2107 00:56:17,639 --> 00:56:18,179 Adam K: like. 2108 00:56:18,271 --> 00:56:19,030 Timothy: Yeah. 2109 00:56:20,019 --> 00:56:22,599 Adam K: Like, based on the way your politics lean and the things you 2110 00:56:22,599 --> 00:56:24,179 Adam K: care about in life. 2111 00:56:24,179 --> 00:56:27,360 Adam K: That's an insult to your, you know, I 2112 00:56:27,110 --> 00:56:28,670 Timothy: To your type people. 2113 00:56:28,159 --> 00:56:28,860 Adam K: your type. 2114 00:56:28,860 --> 00:56:30,139 Adam K: Yeah. I'm not hurt by it. 2115 00:56:30,139 --> 00:56:31,500 Adam K: You you believe me? 2116 00:56:31,500 --> 00:56:33,340 Adam K: It would take so much more than 2117 00:56:33,340 --> 00:56:36,179 Adam K: to, like, call out my, uh, my 2118 00:56:36,179 --> 00:56:38,860 Adam K: machoism, which I don't have 2119 00:56:38,860 --> 00:56:40,099 Adam K: much of. 2120 00:56:40,099 --> 00:56:43,139 Adam K: So, yeah, lack of machismo for Daryl. 2121 00:56:43,139 --> 00:56:46,219 Adam K: But, you know, I'm sure he likes hanging out with sweaty guys. 2122 00:56:46,219 --> 00:56:49,860 Adam K: He watches wrestling for the story, and I wish him the best. 2123 00:56:51,659 --> 00:56:52,300 Adam K: So. 2124 00:56:51,831 --> 00:56:52,710 Timothy: Fair enough. 2125 00:56:52,619 --> 00:56:54,340 Adam K: So with that said, Duff, thank 2126 00:56:54,340 --> 00:56:56,179 Adam K: you for being on here and being 2127 00:56:56,179 --> 00:56:57,800 Adam K: something I can talk to you for 2128 00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:58,519 Adam K: an hour. 2129 00:56:58,570 --> 00:56:59,490 Timothy: Absolutely. 2130 00:56:59,490 --> 00:57:00,130 Timothy: I am 2131 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:00,440 Adam K: Yeah. 2132 00:56:59,931 --> 00:57:02,010 Timothy: here to be talked to at any time. 2133 00:57:03,119 --> 00:57:04,599 Adam K: This is so much cheaper than 2134 00:57:04,599 --> 00:57:06,559 Adam K: therapy, and I appreciate your 2135 00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:07,280 Adam K: time. 2136 00:57:07,291 --> 00:57:07,971 Timothy: Okay. 2137 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,880 Adam K: Uh, if you could get back to me 2138 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,079 Adam K: about why my son was a Power 2139 00:57:11,079 --> 00:57:12,400 Adam K: Ranger, that would mean a lot to 2140 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:12,920 Adam K: me. 2141 00:57:13,170 --> 00:57:13,971 Timothy: I got that. 2142 00:57:13,971 --> 00:57:14,590 Timothy: No, 2143 00:57:14,159 --> 00:57:14,760 Adam K: Thank 2144 00:57:14,391 --> 00:57:15,231 Timothy: I'll 2145 00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:15,039 Adam K: you. 2146 00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:17,170 Timothy: break out the dream interpretation book. 2147 00:57:17,199 --> 00:57:17,920 Adam K: Okay. 2148 00:57:17,570 --> 00:57:18,190 Timothy: We'll circle 2149 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:18,940 Adam K: Um, 2150 00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:18,530 Timothy: back. 2151 00:57:18,739 --> 00:57:21,039 Adam K: people can follow you on Tumblr. 2152 00:57:21,039 --> 00:57:23,000 Adam K: Uh, links will be in the show notes. 2153 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,360 Adam K: We don't have show notes. 2154 00:57:24,210 --> 00:57:25,210 Timothy: There you go. 2155 00:57:25,039 --> 00:57:25,500 Adam K: All 2156 00:57:25,050 --> 00:57:25,690 Timothy: You can. 2157 00:57:25,300 --> 00:57:25,880 Adam K: right. 2158 00:57:25,490 --> 00:57:26,931 Timothy: You can follow my Xanga. 2159 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:31,840 Adam K: Didn't they make Candy crush or something? 2160 00:57:31,291 --> 00:57:32,891 Timothy: Yeah. Something. 2161 00:57:34,559 --> 00:57:35,599 Adam K: Well, thank you for your time. 2162 00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:36,679 Adam K: We should have you on again. 2163 00:57:36,679 --> 00:57:38,199 Adam K: When, uh, when Aaron's back. 2164 00:57:38,199 --> 00:57:42,000 Adam K: And you can you can help me talk about smart stuff. 2165 00:57:42,650 --> 00:57:43,331 Timothy: You got it. 2166 00:57:43,331 --> 00:57:44,530 Timothy: We'll gang up on him. 2167 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,159 Adam K: Yeah. I'm so tired of talking about cars. 2168 00:57:47,170 --> 00:57:49,371 Timothy: Anyway, I gotta go and get my daughter. 2169 00:57:49,371 --> 00:57:52,490 Timothy: I think my wife has to talk to someone with real problems. 2170 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,599 Adam K: Okay. Brag about it 2171 00:57:54,170 --> 00:57:54,851 Timothy: Bye. 2172 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:55,400 Adam K: later. 2173 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:56,039 Adam K: Bye.