August 10, 2026
S01:E24

August 10, 2026

Episode description

My summer car but boring, vibe-coded apps/trash and other delusions of grandeur.

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0:00

Adam K: Hello, sir.

0:01

Adam K: How are you?

0:03

aaron: Good antibiotics ready to go?

0:06

Adam K: I was going to say you got bit by a dog.

0:08

Adam K: How'd that go?

0:11

aaron: I guess about as well as it could have.

0:13

Adam K: Yeah, well, I mean, did you have to, like, beat the dog off of

0:16

Adam K: you or did it just run off?

0:18

aaron: Um, well, it was at the dog park and Riggs and I showed up.

0:23

aaron: I never go to dog parks on weekends and and rarely on

0:26

aaron: Fridays because that's when like the, the once a month or once a

0:31

aaron: year dog owners come out and their dogs are like, what the

0:35

aaron: hell is going on?

0:36

aaron: And they're not used to it.

0:37

aaron: And it's just always a mess.

0:39

aaron: Anyway, I happened to go on Friday and showed up, and there

0:43

aaron: were these two dogs that, uh, showed up there like shortly

0:47

aaron: after that I'd seen before Riggs seen before, but they're like

0:50

aaron: kind of very aggressive.

0:53

aaron: Like they run in and immediately like figure out who to hump.

0:56

aaron: It's like prison rules or something.

0:58

aaron: And so the one dog ran in and

1:00

aaron: immediately grabbed Riggs and

1:01

aaron: started hunting him, and Riggs

1:02

aaron: turned around to like, check him

1:04

aaron: as dogs.

1:05

aaron: Do you know, to be like, no, that's not what you do?

1:07

aaron: And when Riggs turned around to check him to, you know, to say

1:10

aaron: like, ah, this German shepherd just swooped in from, you know,

1:15

aaron: out of nowhere.

1:16

aaron: I had never seen it.

1:17

aaron: I hadn't seen the owner before and started attacking Riggs.

1:21

aaron: And I, you know, I've been I've seen enough dog fighting to know

1:26

aaron: when it's a it's, it's play a really aggressive play versus

1:30

aaron: like a dog fight.

1:31

aaron: And this was a dog fight.

1:33

aaron: And Riggs started screaming at this dog.

1:35

aaron: You know, this dog was like gnawing on his leg and like

1:37

aaron: really going to town.

1:39

aaron: So I try and separate them.

1:41

aaron: And the German Shepherd got even more aggressive and like bit

1:44

aaron: Riggs his leg.

1:45

aaron: So I grabbed the German Shepherd.

1:48

aaron: The German shepherd gets my hand and put a bunch of holes in it.

1:52

aaron: And so then I punched the German Shepherd twice in the head, and

1:55

aaron: it was this second punch where it was like, oh, I human punches

2:00

aaron: are no good.

2:01

aaron: And it kind of like, you know, lumbered off to his owner who

2:06

aaron: the owner, you know, despite all this is a pretty cool, but, uh,

2:11

aaron: he, you know, in the

2:12

Adam K: He

2:12

aaron: moment.

2:12

Adam K: sounds cool.

2:13

aaron: Yeah, it's pretty rock and roll.

2:15

aaron: Um, but he saw his happen and he was in this position where he's

2:18

aaron: like, he couldn't be mad at me for punching his dog because of

2:22

aaron: what was going on.

2:23

aaron: And so he just kind of like took

2:25

aaron: his dog and was like, uh, and my

2:28

aaron: hand was just like spurting

2:29

aaron: blood.

2:30

aaron: It was covered in blood.

2:32

aaron: And, uh, I walk off of Riggs and, and I just, I look back at

2:36

aaron: that guy and go, you come here with my bloody hand.

2:40

aaron: And he just kind of like, sulks

2:43

aaron: over and and I got his

2:45

aaron: information.

2:46

aaron: I got witness information and

2:48

aaron: and, uh, Riggs is doing fine

2:50

aaron: now.

2:50

aaron: I had to watch him for like a day or two to make sure he

2:53

aaron: didn't tear anything, but he's got a hole in his leg.

2:56

aaron: I got more holes than he did, but thankfully

2:58

Adam K: That's good.

2:58

aaron: he's lucky.

2:59

Adam K: The second or third time this has happened.

3:01

aaron: That he's been attacked by a dog.

3:03

Adam K: Where you got attacked?

3:06

Adam K: There was

3:06

aaron: Oh,

3:06

Adam K: multiple attacks and then you had to, like,

3:08

aaron: this is the second time.

3:09

Adam K: this

3:09

aaron: So

3:10

Adam K: is

3:10

aaron: the

3:10

Adam K: the second

3:10

aaron: that

3:10

Adam K: time.

3:10

aaron: first time was that pit bull

3:12

Adam K: Yeah.

3:12

aaron: that also came out of nowhere.

3:15

Adam K: Yeah.

3:15

aaron: And.

3:15

Adam K: Didn't. What did you have?

3:16

Adam K: You took their house, right?

3:18

aaron: Huh?

3:18

Adam K: Are they

3:18

aaron: Yeah.

3:18

Adam K: the owner got the death penalty, if I remember.

3:21

aaron: Yeah. In Texas, there's no trial.

3:23

aaron: It's automatic death penalty.

3:25

aaron: And you and your dog are

3:26

aaron: executed together in the same

3:28

aaron: room.

3:28

Adam K: That's

3:28

aaron: It's

3:28

Adam K: cool.

3:29

aaron: just.

3:29

aaron: It's gas.

3:30

Adam K: Yeah.

3:30

aaron: Yeah.

3:30

Adam K: It's like that.

3:31

aaron: Colored gas.

3:32

aaron: It's it's rainbow gas that comes

3:34

Adam K: It's

3:34

aaron: in.

3:34

Adam K: just that scene from the end of The Boy in Striped pajamas.

3:39

aaron: Now it's more like the mist or something, but, um.

3:43

aaron: No. Did they die in.

3:44

aaron: I don't remember how that

3:45

Adam K: In

3:45

aaron: went.

3:45

Adam K: the mist.

3:46

aaron: Uh, wasn't there was the fog that turns you inside out?

3:50

aaron: That doesn't matter.

3:51

aaron: Whatever.

3:51

Adam K: Where there's the fog.

3:52

Adam K: And then there's the mist.

3:54

Adam K: The mist doesn't kill you.

3:57

Adam K: It holds all these, like Cthulhu Lovecraftian creatures that come

4:03

Adam K: out and kill you and look scarier in black and white.

4:06

Adam K: And then I don't want to spoil

4:09

Adam K: the ending because it's got a

4:10

Adam K: good ending if you haven't seen

4:11

Adam K: it.

4:12

Adam K: It's one of the the better endings to a horror movie.

4:14

aaron: With the guy and his family.

4:17

Adam K: It's not even his family.

4:18

Adam K: It's like, I think it's just his kid and two old people.

4:22

Adam K: That's

4:22

aaron: Very

4:22

Adam K: what

4:22

aaron: good.

4:22

Adam K: makes it even better.

4:24

Adam K: He's

4:24

aaron: Well,

4:24

Adam K: like, we

4:24

aaron: yeah.

4:25

Adam K: escaped.

4:25

Adam K: We did it.

4:26

Adam K: Well, this is the end.

4:30

aaron: More. But the the thing is, is now I have a new hole, the exact

4:36

aaron: same size, a half inch from where that pit bull hole was.

4:40

Adam K: Nice.

4:40

aaron: And yeah, actually, there's more holes this time.

4:44

aaron: Like it's the one hole is the

4:46

aaron: same shape, same angle, same

4:49

aaron: everything.

4:50

aaron: And so now I can see the progression of my life in these

4:54

aaron: scars in my hand.

4:55

aaron: It was really deep too.

4:57

aaron: Mika looked at it and she was like, oh, I can see fat.

5:01

aaron: And I was like, oh.

5:03

Adam K: I mean, that's just her nice way of telling you.

5:05

Adam K: You need to lose weight, but

5:06

aaron: Yeah.

5:06

Adam K: it's kind of her.

5:09

Adam K: Anywho.

5:09

aaron: Yeah. She knows how thick skin is.

5:12

aaron: And so I can't be like, this is skin.

5:14

aaron: And like, no, no, no. That's a very thin layer of skin over a

5:18

aaron: layer of fat.

5:20

Adam K: Well, I hope you get your mobility back

5:23

aaron: Yeah.

5:23

Adam K: soon.

5:23

aaron: I got kind of a claw hand on my left hand right now.

5:26

Adam K: So you don't.

5:27

Adam K: So you're knowing you, you're probably still working out, but

5:30

Adam K: only the right

5:31

aaron: I'm

5:31

Adam K: side

5:31

aaron: gonna,

5:31

Adam K: of your body.

5:32

aaron: I'm gonna go right after this actually.

5:34

Adam K: Okay.

5:34

aaron: I'm gonna wear surgical gloves while I do it like this cool

5:37

aaron: black dude at the gym.

5:38

aaron: Does

5:39

Adam K: Mhm.

5:39

aaron: he, like, wears all black, a

5:42

aaron: black beret and black rubber

5:44

aaron: gloves.

5:44

aaron: When he works out, it's like a it looks like a Black Panther

5:47

aaron: from the seventies.

5:48

aaron: Like like he if he had a cigar while he was working, I'd be.

5:52

aaron: I'd be like, I have to work out with you.

5:54

aaron: Please just let me.

5:55

aaron: I don't know what you're doing,

5:56

aaron: but I want to do what you're

5:58

aaron: doing.

5:58

Adam K: I like the the Reddit post of people taking photos of other

6:02

Adam K: people at the gym and being like, this guy's been sitting

6:04

Adam K: here the whole time.

6:04

Adam K: He's like, and you're a pussy and won't go talk to him.

6:07

aaron: Yeah. What are you doing?

6:08

Adam K: Yeah, you're just

6:08

aaron: I.

6:09

Adam K: invading, invading privacy when you're not supposed to be even

6:11

Adam K: taking any photos at whatever.

6:13

Adam K: It's Planet fitness, who

6:14

aaron: No,

6:14

Adam K: cares?

6:14

Adam K: But whatever.

6:15

Adam K: Creep.

6:16

aaron: no. I go upright to them and I go, you almost done?

6:20

aaron: I want to hop on this.

6:21

aaron: And I, you know, almost every time they go, oh no, I'm good.

6:26

aaron: And then they get off, you know,

6:27

aaron: like it's, it's never the

6:28

aaron: showdown of there's no showdown

6:30

aaron: ever.

6:31

aaron: That's a very that's a selection bias on the internet.

6:33

aaron: Most people, they realize like, oh, fuck, I've been sitting here

6:35

aaron: for fifteen minutes on tick tock and they get off.

6:39

aaron: And then

6:39

Adam K: Yeah.

6:39

aaron: even one guy, uh, Thursday, I had these one hundred pound

6:44

aaron: dumbbells in each hand and I was walking them back to the rack

6:48

aaron: like, like a, you know, the waddle of that much weight.

6:52

aaron: And the guy had set up a little mini tripod with his camera and

6:56

aaron: was addressing the camera, like right in front of where the

6:58

aaron: hundred pound weights go.

7:00

aaron: And I don't even like, I'm not going to where I just go, excuse

7:03

aaron: me, man, excuse me.

7:03

aaron: And he goes, oh shit.

7:05

aaron: And then he like, he's like, and he's like, I'm sorry, sorry.

7:09

aaron: You know, and there wasn't some,

7:10

aaron: you know, he wasn't like, what's

7:12

aaron: this dude getting in my stream

7:13

aaron: for?

7:14

aaron: He was like, oh fuck.

7:15

aaron: I I'm, I'm not working out.

7:17

aaron: I'm streaming.

7:18

aaron: So.

7:19

Adam K: It's. That should be an extra tier that the twenty four hour

7:24

Adam K: fitness charges you or whatever, if you're an influencer.

7:27

aaron: You pay for the filming.

7:28

Adam K: Yeah. Well, I mean, you're technically using a filming

7:31

Adam K: location for free or, you know, twenty four dollars a month or

7:35

Adam K: whatever they charge.

7:37

Adam K: I don't know what prices are.

7:38

Adam K: I think I pay thirty.

7:40

aaron: I pay thirty two dollars a month for

7:41

Adam K: Yeah,

7:42

aaron: where did I go?

7:42

Adam K: well, I pay for the black card

7:44

Adam K: fitness so that I can use the

7:46

Adam K: massage chair And the other

7:49

Adam K: massage chairs.

7:50

Adam K: I don't really massage you.

7:51

aaron: That's gross.

7:53

Adam K: It

7:53

aaron: I

7:53

Adam K: is

7:53

aaron: paid

7:53

Adam K: gross.

7:53

aaron: the extra money to be able to go

7:54

aaron: in there when fifty cent is

7:56

aaron: there.

7:56

Adam K: They have one of those machines

7:59

Adam K: from the nineteen fifties, but

8:00

Adam K: they modernized it where it just

8:03

Adam K: shakes you.

8:04

Adam K: It's just a vibrating plate.

8:05

Adam K: But they also added red lights.

8:08

Adam K: So it's supposed to be giving you a tan, I think.

8:11

Adam K: I'm not sure.

8:12

Adam K: And

8:12

aaron: Well,

8:12

Adam K: then it just.

8:12

aaron: the thing that like, straps to your middle and shakes you.

8:14

Adam K: Yeah. But instead it's just a

8:16

Adam K: vibrating floor and it's

8:18

Adam K: supposed.

8:18

Adam K: I've used it a couple of times.

8:19

Adam K: I'm not sure I'm getting

8:20

Adam K: anything out of this other than

8:22

Adam K: my knees are weaker than when I

8:24

Adam K: started.

8:24

Adam K: But it's for somebody, and that's

8:27

aaron: Huh?

8:27

Adam K: cool.

8:28

Adam K: Oh.

8:29

aaron: I thought it was going to be one of those, like, wooden horses,

8:31

aaron: like one of those exercise equipment they had on the

8:33

aaron: Titanic or something.

8:35

Adam K: Uh, they just have torture racks.

8:36

Adam K: Yeah.

8:37

Adam K: Uh,

8:37

aaron: Yeah.

8:38

Adam K: they have a pyramid you can sit on and an iron maiden.

8:42

aaron: They have the workout equipment

8:43

aaron: that has a little place for the

8:44

aaron: ashtray.

8:46

aaron: So you can.

8:47

Adam K: Well, so I've, I remember

8:49

Adam K: hearing a bunch of crap about

8:50

Adam K: planet Fitness and people were

8:52

Adam K: saying like, oh, you know, they,

8:53

Adam K: they feed you pizza and Tootsie

8:55

Adam K: Rolls.

8:56

Adam K: And, uh,

8:56

aaron: Donuts?

8:56

Adam K: if you, yeah, if you drop a dumbbell, like an alarm goes

9:00

Adam K: off, mine doesn't have any of that stuff, which is fine.

9:03

Adam K: I don't need to be tempted by

9:05

Adam K: pizza, but I'm wondering if that

9:07

Adam K: was just like a single owner

9:08

Adam K: thing because I think it is a

9:09

Adam K: franchise.

9:10

Adam K: So.

9:10

aaron: No, I think the Lunk alarm is a pretty universal thing with.

9:14

aaron: I mean, I'm pretty sure.

9:17

Adam K: While the mine has no lunk alarm, I have to just make the

9:21

Adam K: noise myself whenever someone drops a dumbbell.

9:24

aaron: Woo woo.

9:26

aaron: The

9:26

Adam K: Yeah.

9:26

aaron: balloons drop down.

9:28

Adam K: Um. It's.

9:30

aaron: So everyone can't see and they

9:31

aaron: just end up hurting themselves

9:33

aaron: with weights.

9:34

Adam K: Unrelated, I've been getting my ass kicked a lot more outside of

9:36

Adam K: the planet fitness.

9:38

aaron: Mhm.

9:40

Adam K: Anyway, can you tell I'm sick?

9:44

aaron: No.

9:44

Adam K: Okay, I feel like I have a weird, weird voice.

9:49

Adam K: It's

9:49

aaron: What

9:49

Adam K: very

9:50

aaron: are you?

9:50

Adam K: gravelly.

9:50

aaron: Are you sick from another Disneyland trip or something?

9:55

Adam K: Probably, actually. Yeah. By proxy, I got

9:58

aaron: MM.

9:58

Adam K: I got a, I got Disney sickness.

10:01

aaron: MM.

10:01

Adam K: It happens.

10:03

Adam K: You can only ingest so much

10:04

Adam K: magic before it gets to your

10:08

Adam K: insides.

10:09

Adam K: It's not healthy.

10:10

aaron: They should just spray sanitizing spray in the lines

10:15

aaron: like, you know, miss.

10:16

aaron: During summer, they missed water.

10:18

aaron: It just.

10:18

aaron: It's just Clorox.

10:21

aaron: It just creates a nice little shield of anti-bacterial ness.

10:24

Adam K: I feel like they already do that.

10:27

aaron: Yeah.

10:27

Adam K: And they call it pixie dust

10:29

aaron: MM.

10:30

Adam K: anyway. Well then.

10:35

Adam K: Yeah, so I basically spent this

10:36

Adam K: weekend being sick and learning

10:38

Adam K: about you getting attacked by a

10:39

Adam K: dog.

10:40

aaron: Yeah. It's a pretty low weekend, but

10:42

Adam K: I'm sorry.

10:43

aaron: that's that's fine.

10:45

aaron: Um,

10:45

Adam K: MM.

10:46

aaron: I, uh, I'm on the road to recovery.

10:48

aaron: I still got some stuff done that

10:50

aaron: even though I got about half

10:51

aaron: done of what I wanted to because

10:53

aaron: I have half of my digits, but

10:56

aaron: worked out and, uh, yeah, so

11:00

aaron: I'll be able to show you that I

11:01

aaron: think

11:02

Adam K: Yeah.

11:02

aaron: in

11:02

Adam K: I'm

11:02

aaron: a couple

11:02

Adam K: excited.

11:03

aaron: days.

11:03

Adam K: I can't wait to see your your, uh, vibe coded crap app.

11:07

aaron: I have this thing deployed on

11:10

aaron: Vercel, but I haven't pushed it

11:11

aaron: live yet because I'm doing

11:13

aaron: security checks and stuff on it

11:15

aaron: to, to make sure my Social

11:17

aaron: security number, all but the

11:19

aaron: four last ones are, are

11:21

aaron: obscured.

11:21

aaron: So.

11:22

Adam K: Why don't you just use the the company e I n.

11:25

aaron: Yeah, that's good too.

11:27

aaron: That'll be the password.

11:29

Adam K: That's a good one.

11:30

Adam K: Uh, I was doing a similar thing this past week and a little over

11:34

Adam K: the weekend, but trying to get an app on the App store.

11:37

Adam K: I've never actually done it, but

11:39

aaron: It's

11:39

Adam K: just

11:39

aaron: a pain in the ass.

11:40

Adam K: really is.

11:41

Adam K: Yeah, a buddy of mine just.

11:43

Adam K: He wants a like a he doesn't care that it's vibe coated.

11:46

Adam K: He's like, whatever.

11:47

Adam K: I just he's starting like his own personal fitness business.

11:50

Adam K: And he just wants a really simple app that like he can

11:54

Adam K: upload videos to, to clients and go, this is how you're supposed

11:57

Adam K: to do, like, you know, this squat or this, it's just a

12:01

Adam K: personal training app.

12:02

aaron: Uh.

12:03

Adam K: And I was like, okay.

12:04

Adam K: Yeah. So threw in Claude and did the whole thing.

12:07

Adam K: And I'm like, oh, it seems to work.

12:09

Adam K: I don't know.

12:10

Adam K: Um, he's like, yeah, this is perfect.

12:12

Adam K: It's exactly what I need.

12:13

Adam K: Uh, how do we get on the App store?

12:14

Adam K: I was like, well, I pay one hundred dollars and I'm now I'm

12:19

Adam K: a developer because

12:20

aaron: Uh.

12:21

Adam K: I also, you know, I have a debit card.

12:24

Adam K: So

12:24

aaron: Yeah.

12:24

Adam K: that's all, that's all it really takes.

12:26

Adam K: I was unaware.

12:27

aaron: You have a fifth grade reading comprehension.

12:29

aaron: You're a developer now.

12:30

Adam K: That's very kind of you.

12:31

Adam K: I, I and the drop down I hit fourth, but whatever, whatever

12:36

Adam K: gets gets me into this test flight that I've been trying to

12:40

Adam K: figure out all weekend.

12:41

Adam K: So it's the app is running on my

12:43

Adam K: phone, but now I'm just I need

12:46

Adam K: to like get other people to use

12:48

Adam K: it.

12:49

Adam K: And that's just been a, uh, a real clusterfuck.

12:53

aaron: Wait.

12:53

Adam K: It's not fun.

12:53

aaron: Oh, is it is it downloadable now?

12:56

Adam K: I believe so.

12:57

Adam K: I got it built on my computer using Xcode, and then it built

13:02

Adam K: on my phone.

13:03

Adam K: And then I got it running on.

13:05

Adam K: I got like a download link through Testflight so that I can

13:07

Adam K: test it that way.

13:09

Adam K: But like, I, I'm not the one to be testing it like this.

13:11

Adam K: The guy needs to test it.

13:12

aaron: Yeah.

13:13

Adam K: So.

13:13

aaron: And I'm not going to test it

13:14

aaron: because I don't want any

13:15

aaron: security vulnerabilities.

13:16

aaron: So.

13:17

Adam K: No. Yeah. I mean, Claude said it's good.

13:21

aaron: Uh, yeah.

13:23

Adam K: As it escaped from its cage and, uh, downloaded some some files

13:29

Adam K: off Hugging Face and then left some instructions for its other

13:32

Adam K: AI friends to do the same.

13:34

aaron: Taken over Zuckerberg's yacht so it doesn't respond to calls and

13:38

aaron: whatever else it ends up doing.

13:41

Adam K: Sorry for the cough.

13:42

Adam K: Uh,

13:42

aaron: That's

13:42

Adam K: that was

13:43

aaron: fine.

13:43

Adam K: also funny and not so funny.

13:45

Adam K: All the.

13:46

Adam K: You saw Christopher Lambert fell.

13:48

Adam K: That's not good.

13:49

aaron: Yeah.

13:51

Adam K: Brad Pitt, uh, drinking again because

13:55

aaron: Oh,

13:55

Adam K: his kids disowned him.

13:56

Adam K: Yeah. It's

13:56

aaron: I

13:56

Adam K: really.

13:57

aaron: like that.

13:57

aaron: The only thing I really cared about was these two, uh, n b a x

14:02

aaron: n b a guys who are trying to join the WNBA.

14:05

Adam K: What?

14:06

aaron: Yeah. There's these two guys, so

14:08

aaron: they're going to enter in the

14:09

aaron: draft.

14:10

aaron: They're these former NBA players, and they're going to,

14:13

aaron: uh, enter in the WNBA draft because the WNBA is language on

14:18

aaron: who can play in the WNBA.

14:20

aaron: It's too ambiguous, i.e. a transgender person could

14:23

aaron: potentially, you know, sign up.

14:26

aaron: So these two guys are declaring themselves as women and they're

14:30

aaron: going to enter the draft.

14:32

aaron: And look, I, I think we both agree.

14:36

aaron: First of all, there's like two transgendered players in the

14:40

aaron: world of any sport.

14:42

aaron: I think they're both golf, but, uh, it doesn't matter.

14:45

aaron: Who cares?

14:46

aaron: Like be who you're supposed to be and all that stuff.

14:51

aaron: That being said, how amazing would it be to see these two,

14:55

aaron: like, seven foot dudes join the WNBA and, like, get one hundred

15:01

aaron: thousand points a game and just completely demolish, and then

15:06

aaron: the viewership on the WNBA quadruples, it quintuple

15:10

aaron: whatever it is.

15:11

aaron: And people are just, it just starts this chaos, this

15:15

aaron: beautiful chaos of like, every time one of those dudes gets the

15:18

aaron: ball, they should play the Harlem Globetrotters theme.

15:23

aaron: And, and just they're just doing tricks and stuff like on prime

15:28

aaron: prime time game.

15:30

aaron: Just and, uh, I just, that's what I really want to see that

15:33

aaron: it just has nothing to do with any transgender anything.

15:36

aaron: It's purely for the utter chaos it would cause.

15:42

Adam K: I'm

15:42

aaron: Because

15:42

Adam K: just.

15:42

aaron: in the end, yeah.

15:44

Adam K: I'm just glad we solved all of

15:46

Adam K: our world's issues to focus on

15:48

Adam K: this.

15:48

Adam K: That's it.

15:49

Adam K: I'm glad.

15:49

Adam K: I'm just

15:50

aaron: I

15:50

Adam K: so

15:50

aaron: just.

15:50

Adam K: glad everything's perfect.

15:53

aaron: I think that I mean, I don't I don't remember who said it, but

15:58

aaron: they were like, there should be a like, uh, an, an everybody

16:04

aaron: league, you know, that's

16:06

Adam K: Sure.

16:06

aaron: like the elite league or whatever.

16:08

aaron: I mean, it's kind

16:09

Adam K: A

16:09

aaron: of

16:09

Adam K: co-ed.

16:09

aaron: it's yeah, whatever, because

16:11

aaron: that'd be fucking entertaining

16:13

aaron: as hell.

16:14

aaron: But also, uh, yeah, I mean, it the idea of like, I don't know,

16:21

aaron: it should just be the best of everybody and everyone should be

16:24

aaron: able to do drugs.

16:25

aaron: That's, I mean, that's my I

16:26

Adam K: Didn't

16:26

aaron: think

16:27

Adam K: they?

16:27

aaron: everyone can agree on

16:28

Adam K: Didn't

16:28

aaron: that.

16:28

Adam K: they do that?

16:29

Adam K: And then a guy who didn't do any

16:31

Adam K: drugs won the swimming

16:32

Adam K: competition.

16:33

aaron: Yeah. they had the drug Olympics in Las Vegas.

16:37

aaron: I was going to go to him this year, but then I was like, I

16:40

aaron: didn't really want to give Peter Thiel any money, any more money

16:44

aaron: than I'm already giving him.

16:45

Adam K: I

16:45

aaron: And

16:45

Adam K: mean, you're giving it to him some way or another,

16:47

aaron: yeah,

16:47

Adam K: whether you know it or not.

16:48

aaron: but I wanted to go to Vegas to see the the dope to Olympics.

16:53

aaron: And yeah, that one guy ended up

16:55

aaron: winning, I think because the

16:56

aaron: other swimmers were just too

16:57

aaron: heavy.

16:58

aaron: They just sank.

16:59

Adam K: Yeah.

17:01

aaron: Yeah.

17:01

Adam K: I don't I think, uh, swimming's one of those sports where it

17:06

Adam K: genetics helps when you're shaped like a shark, like a

17:09

Adam K: Michael Phelps type situation.

17:11

aaron: No, he's shaped like a he's like a aqua dolphin man.

17:15

Adam K: Yeah. He's got the he's a giant

17:17

Adam K: Dorito man with I think he has

17:20

Adam K: tiny legs.

17:21

aaron: His tiny legs and I think he has webbed toes.

17:24

Adam K: Yes.

17:24

aaron: I'm not sure.

17:25

Adam K: The longer you're in the water, the better.

17:27

aaron: I

17:27

Adam K: But.

17:27

aaron: think he's basically Kevin Costner from Waterworld.

17:31

aaron: I think he I think his gills behind his ears.

17:34

Adam K: Oh, man.

17:35

aaron: And he hates little girls

17:36

Adam K: What?

17:37

aaron: and loves, loves dirt.

17:40

aaron: I don't know.

17:40

Adam K: Are you talking about Michael Phelps or Kevin Costner?

17:43

Adam K: Not.

17:43

aaron: I don't

17:43

Adam K: Not

17:43

aaron: know.

17:44

Adam K: the Mariner or whatever his name is.

17:46

Adam K: I think they call him Web Face Gill, man.

17:50

aaron: How they called him oyster.

17:52

aaron: Is that was that another movie?

17:55

aaron: Yeah.

17:55

aaron: I guess no one was like oyster.

17:58

Adam K: You might be thinking of Field of Dreams.

18:01

Adam K: I don't know,

18:02

aaron: Yeah.

18:03

Adam K: Kevin Costner is a divisive, uh, movie star for some reason.

18:08

aaron: All I have to say, I, I do think

18:10

aaron: I do think as many drugs as

18:12

aaron: athletes can fit in their bodies

18:14

aaron: before

18:15

Adam K: But they

18:15

aaron: they

18:15

Adam K: but they

18:15

aaron: literally

18:16

Adam K: did that

18:16

aaron: explode.

18:16

Adam K: and it and it didn't didn't change anything or I, the most I

18:20

Adam K: saw was just the.

18:22

Adam K: There's also just too much news

18:23

Adam K: going on, but the only thing I

18:24

Adam K: saw pop up on that was the

18:27

Adam K: swimmer beat all the guys on

18:28

Adam K: drugs.

18:29

aaron: Well, also, that was just like, you're not supposed to.

18:36

aaron: It's ruining the fun of it when you call attention to it.

18:40

aaron: It's like, you know, uh, this

18:43

Adam K: Bumfights.

18:43

aaron: is going to be the, the all natural strip club where there's

18:48

aaron: no enhanced breasts.

18:51

aaron: This is a directly applicable example.

18:53

aaron: But you hear that and you're like, oh, that's cool.

18:56

aaron: But I kind of just would rather be surprised.

18:59

aaron: The same thing with like

19:00

aaron: baseball, like the most exciting

19:02

aaron: era was when Mark McGwire was

19:05

aaron: hitting balls like a half a mile

19:07

aaron: because, you know, and he still

19:10

aaron: had like syringes in his ass as

19:12

aaron: he was walking out to the plate

19:13

aaron: like that was the most exciting

19:15

aaron: time.

19:15

aaron: Like, drug up everybody, make them.

19:18

aaron: You know, I think growth hormone

19:21

aaron: NBA players should be twelve

19:23

aaron: feet tall.

19:26

Adam K: I

19:26

aaron: They should

19:26

Adam K: look,

19:26

aaron: raise

19:26

Adam K: I look

19:27

aaron: the

19:27

Adam K: forward

19:27

aaron: basket.

19:27

Adam K: to living in your utopia.

19:29

aaron: Yeah.

19:31

Adam K: whenever that happens.

19:33

Adam K: Um, so this game you sent the, what was it called, eighty car

19:38

Adam K: stories or whatever.

19:39

aaron: I think it's called boring car stories.

19:41

Adam K: Boring car story.

19:42

Adam K: So you sent it to me.

19:43

Adam K: I wasn't in a place where I could listen to it.

19:47

Adam K: I was like out shopping or something.

19:48

Adam K: And then I saw I was like, okay.

19:51

Adam K: And so I assumed the way the game worked was there was a

19:55

Adam K: radio and it just had

19:57

aaron: No,

19:57

Adam K: boring car stories.

19:59

aaron: no.

20:00

Adam K: And then I, when I listened to it later, I went, wait a minute,

20:03

Adam K: why would you call it boring car stories that there's no car

20:07

Adam K: stories in it

20:08

aaron: Mhm.

20:08

Adam K: is the idea.

20:10

Adam K: People who play this game will

20:11

Adam K: make their own boring car

20:13

Adam K: stories.

20:14

aaron: I think from what I can see right now, it's a it is like a

20:22

aaron: therapeutic way to just tune out and not have to deal with any

20:27

aaron: kind of like overt realism or arcade nonsense, and to just

20:34

aaron: drive in nineteen eighties North Africa for, I don't know why.

20:38

aaron: It's North Africa for whatever

20:39

aaron: reason, but you're just driving

20:41

aaron: these things like pedal to the

20:43

aaron: metal, going like eighty miles

20:46

aaron: an hour or ninety miles an hour

20:48

aaron: through desert and winding roads

20:51

aaron: and stuff.

20:52

aaron: And I think you have 80s music playing or something like that.

20:56

aaron: But I think the idea is for people to just sit down and not

21:02

aaron: think and just drive in an era that they didn't live in, in

21:07

aaron: cars that they would hate if they actually had.

21:10

aaron: But it's it's that thing that's happening, nostalgia for a time

21:14

aaron: you never experienced basically.

21:16

Adam K: Okay.

21:17

aaron: Um, it's like when we were kids

21:19

aaron: and everyone wanted to live in

21:21

aaron: the sixties.

21:22

aaron: Kids now are wanting to live in the late eighties and 90s.

21:26

Adam K: Right.

21:26

aaron: That's that's what this is.

21:27

aaron: So I saw that I was like, the static is awesome.

21:31

aaron: Like the aesthetic is great of like just, you know, it's, it's

21:35

aaron: Don Henley boys of summer in a, a beta coupe in Egypt driving

21:43

aaron: around or whatever, you know, right before it rusts.

21:46

aaron: But I was like, man, it would be cool if you did have to stop at

21:51

aaron: a gas station, you have to stop at a gas station eventually, and

21:55

aaron: then you end up talking like Red dead style to some guy that you

21:59

aaron: don't know what his deal is, or if he's a ghost or not.

22:02

aaron: And you know, he, you, you talk to them and you have some

22:06

aaron: interesting little tidbit and then you go on your merry way.

22:09

aaron: And I was like, oh, that'd be

22:10

aaron: great to write the little

22:11

aaron: tidbit.

22:13

aaron: But maybe these people developing it are like, no, no,

22:15

aaron: no, no, you just drive and you never run out of gas and you

22:20

aaron: just go and it's just a dream.

22:22

aaron: And, you know, I, I, so I don't know.

22:25

aaron: I don't know what their deal is, but.

22:26

Adam K: I don't either.

22:27

Adam K: It's early access, so anything can happen.

22:30

Adam K: And yeah, I think if excuse me if you want to.

22:35

Adam K: Like I said, if you want to just attempt it, I'm down.

22:39

Adam K: I'm down to figure out a way to play this thing.

22:43

Adam K: And you can sit shotgun with me and we can tell boring car

22:46

Adam K: stories from the eighties.

22:48

aaron: At least be able to, you know,

22:49

aaron: pick up a pick up a hitchhiker,

22:51

aaron: you know,

22:51

Adam K: Mhm.

22:53

aaron: um, and

22:54

Adam K: With Claude,

22:54

aaron: just.

22:55

Adam K: you can do anything.

22:56

Adam K: We could mod this thing.

22:58

Adam K: I'll ask

22:58

aaron: We

22:58

Adam K: this

22:59

aaron: love

22:59

Adam K: guy.

22:59

aaron: your game.

22:59

aaron: We're

22:59

Adam K: Yeah,

23:00

aaron: selling it as our own.

23:01

Adam K: we forked it.

23:03

Adam K: It's on GitHub.

23:05

Adam K: Pay us.

23:06

Adam K: I don't know, I. Yeah, I mean, what's to stop you from just

23:10

Adam K: reaching out to the developer and being like, hey, I know you

23:14

Adam K: probably don't have any money in my, my currency, but

23:18

aaron: Mhm.

23:20

Adam K: I here's my pitch for your thing.

23:22

Adam K: I want to write some boring car stories for you.

23:25

Adam K: All you have to do is pick up a hitchhiker and, uh.

23:28

Adam K: I mean, why not?

23:29

Adam K: You have people, like, submit them.

23:33

aaron: Yeah.

23:34

Adam K: Why not?

23:35

Adam K: Why not?

23:36

Adam K: Is what I'm saying.

23:38

aaron: Um, so many reasons, but I guess I should just email him.

23:43

aaron: And the thing the worst will be is like, no, we're focused on

23:47

aaron: the, the speedometer physics right now and we can't do that.

23:51

aaron: And if

23:51

Adam K: You

23:51

aaron: that's

23:51

Adam K: say

23:51

aaron: the case.

23:51

Adam K: we as in it's more than one person.

23:54

aaron: It feels like it's two people.

23:56

aaron: Possibly it might be two people talking to two people when it's

23:59

aaron: all said and done, but it doesn't feel like one person.

24:02

aaron: It feels like there's maybe two, possibly three

24:06

Adam K: Okay,

24:07

aaron: because

24:08

Adam K: let's.

24:08

aaron: it was there was two idiots talking.

24:10

aaron: They're like, they saw some dude

24:12

aaron: who was just making GIFs or

24:14

aaron: videos of this driving through

24:16

aaron: Egypt.

24:16

aaron: They're like, we should make just a driving game this.

24:19

Adam K: Do the accent.

24:20

aaron: Um. I don't even know if they're like, there's a possibility

24:25

aaron: these dudes that are like, they're from California or

24:28

aaron: something and they're like, oh, this is just, this is

24:32

Adam K: I

24:32

aaron: our

24:32

Adam K: mean,

24:32

aaron: view

24:33

Adam K: according

24:33

aaron: of.

24:33

Adam K: to their AI built website, they are Alpha Labs.

24:39

aaron: I'm looking him up right now.

24:41

Adam K: Yeah. I mean, this might be the same people, I don't know.

24:44

Adam K: I'm barely

24:44

aaron: Wait.

24:44

Adam K: reading it.

24:48

aaron: So that that's in French.

24:50

aaron: So maybe they're Moroccan.

24:52

Adam K: Yeah. I think there's a different Alpha Labs I may have.

24:57

Adam K: Yeah.

24:57

Adam K: They may have picked a name that was already taken.

25:01

Adam K: I have no idea.

25:02

aaron: So this

25:03

Adam K: This

25:03

aaron: okay,

25:03

Adam K: this

25:03

aaron: a

25:03

Adam K: might be

25:04

aaron: driving

25:04

Adam K: a scam.

25:04

aaron: game focused exclusively on driving slow cars fast.

25:08

aaron: No car in the game is more than two hundred horsepower.

25:10

aaron: Half of them don't even have one hundred horsepower yet.

25:13

aaron: Very few games will let you feel

25:15

aaron: this engaged driving something

25:16

aaron: this slow.

25:17

aaron: Set in the eighties in North Africa.

25:19

aaron: The Makran region isn't isn't that like.

25:22

aaron: Or maybe that's like Chad or something.

25:24

aaron: Let me look at here.

25:25

Adam K: Could

25:25

aaron: No

25:26

Adam K: be

25:26

aaron: it's

25:26

Adam K: Chad.

25:26

aaron: Morocco. Yeah, yeah.

25:27

aaron: They

25:27

Adam K: Okay,

25:27

aaron: gotta be Morocco

25:28

Adam K: so

25:28

aaron: because they're speaking

25:29

Adam K: the

25:29

aaron: French

25:29

Adam K: French.

25:29

aaron: and stuff.

25:30

Adam K: Okay.

25:31

aaron: Um, also Chad's not North Africa.

25:34

aaron: Aaron.

25:34

aaron: Good job.

25:35

aaron: Uh, yeah.

25:37

aaron: So yeah, look, I mean, it's it's got a cool, you know, I don't

25:41

aaron: know, it kind of has a, a my summer car driving look,

25:46

aaron: actually, maybe that's they got partially inspired by that man.

25:51

aaron: How awesome would my summer car be?

25:54

aaron: Is there the American version of that?

25:56

aaron: Do you know?

25:58

Adam K: Of a game where you

26:01

aaron: The my

26:01

Adam K: put

26:01

aaron: summer car

26:02

Adam K: a.

26:02

aaron: but not Finnish or whatever.

26:04

Adam K: I messed with a couple of those

26:06

Adam K: simulators and they're not the

26:07

Adam K: same.

26:07

Adam K: They're they're a lot more handholding.

26:10

Adam K: It wasn't like, you know.

26:11

Adam K: Yeah, go find the, the spark

26:13

Adam K: plug that rolled under the

26:16

Adam K: carburetor

26:16

aaron: Yeah.

26:17

Adam K: or whatever.

26:17

Adam K: Um, I don't know.

26:19

Adam K: I feel like there's so much crap out there where there's demand

26:24

Adam K: for this sort of stuff.

26:25

Adam K: And there's a popular game, it's

26:27

Adam K: called oh, I forget what it is,

26:29

Adam K: but it was like a drug simulator

26:31

Adam K: or something

26:32

aaron: Yeah.

26:32

Adam K: that was, uh, that was, I think,

26:36

Adam K: climbing the Twitch charts for a

26:37

Adam K: little bit.

26:38

Adam K: But yeah, maybe people want to do card games again, just talk

26:43

Adam K: to Claude and say, build me the game of my dreams and it will

26:47

Adam K: mostly look okay.

26:48

Adam K: And, you know, one thousand

26:49

Adam K: dollars later, you'll have a

26:50

Adam K: game that, uh, runs like

26:52

Adam K: complete ass.

26:54

aaron: I don't I don't know what.

26:56

aaron: I have no basis for any of this

26:58

aaron: as far as like what games are

26:59

aaron: built in or what any of this

27:01

aaron: stuff.

27:01

aaron: Like if I wanted to build, okay, there's, there's two ways I

27:05

aaron: would build a American version of my summer car.

27:07

aaron: And I'm probably talking about things that already exist.

27:09

aaron: But the one way I would build it is it takes place in West

27:13

aaron: Virginia, like now.

27:16

aaron: And I think that would be the most applicable to like the

27:19

aaron: finish or whatever country it is version to where like you get up

27:23

aaron: and you have a nineteen ninety two Iroc Camaro that you're

27:28

aaron: trying to put, and it's just on blocks in your front yard.

27:31

aaron: You don't even have a garage and

27:33

aaron: you're just trying to get it

27:34

aaron: running that summer, but you're

27:36

aaron: having to run around and you're

27:38

aaron: constantly dealing with meth

27:40

aaron: heads.

27:40

aaron: You sometimes like to smoke a little meth, but you're not

27:43

aaron: addicted to it.

27:44

aaron: And, you know, like it's that kind of hill.

27:47

aaron: You gotta run pills sometimes you gotta do some things, you

27:51

aaron: know, you have a heart of gold, though, and you're great.

27:53

aaron: Or the other version is it takes

27:56

aaron: place in like Malibu in the

27:59

aaron: eighties.

28:00

aaron: And you're, you're like living in someone's back guest house or

28:05

aaron: something trying to get your I don't know what what the right

28:09

aaron: thing, your old Porsche to work or something like that.

28:12

aaron: And you're constantly having to like, you know, have sex with

28:17

aaron: older men's wives and stuff to get money and whatever.

28:19

aaron: You know, like there's a way to make this good, I think.

28:23

Adam K: I like the, uh, the Camaro angle because then it's just the story

28:28

Adam K: of every guy who is twenty years plus trying to pick up their

28:32

Adam K: girlfriends from high school and

28:35

aaron: That

28:35

Adam K: the game.

28:35

aaron: was me.

28:36

Adam K: Yeah. And then the game just ends with the police showing up.

28:39

aaron: Oh, not twenty

28:39

Adam K: Yeah.

28:40

aaron: years.

28:40

aaron: Well, you know, yeah, I was, I, I was working on my car trying

28:44

aaron: to get it working so I could go drive my date to prom.

28:49

Adam K: That's the twist of the game is

28:51

Adam K: like, you get your car working

28:53

Adam K: fine.

28:53

Adam K: Let's go pick up your date.

28:54

Adam K: And it's a fifteen year old girl, and then the cops are

28:57

Adam K: waiting for you.

28:58

aaron: Well, it's like you're picking up your date, but you're, you're

29:01

aaron: like, no, this is a similar last name as me.

29:05

aaron: And then, you know.

29:08

aaron: You're like, Aunt Polly.

29:10

aaron: I'm here to.

29:11

aaron: I'm here for my date.

29:13

aaron: Uh, well, anyway.

29:14

Adam K: I

29:14

aaron: Yeah.

29:14

Adam K: say, just lean into it.

29:15

Adam K: And yeah, if it's Virginia, you

29:17

Adam K: knew you were picking up your

29:18

Adam K: cousin.

29:19

Adam K: And then it does, you know, years later and your kids have

29:22

Adam K: webbed feet and they're swimming in the Olympics.

29:26

aaron: Yeah. You just fast forwarded time, and your son is trying to

29:29

aaron: put their own car together, but it's just made out of wood.

29:33

Adam K: We're there's two weeks in a row we've done this, like with the

29:36

Adam K: Duke Nukem thing.

29:37

Adam K: Right?

29:38

aaron: Or we developed a video game

29:40

Adam K: Well,

29:40

aaron: that would

29:40

Adam K: I

29:40

aaron: never

29:40

Adam K: think

29:40

aaron: make.

29:40

Adam K: there's our our demand.

29:43

Adam K: What we want is you, you pitch a

29:47

Adam K: concept and that that concept is

29:49

Adam K: takes a back seat to the other

29:52

Adam K: stuff.

29:52

Adam K: So it's like, yeah, you start off with a, a car on cinder

29:55

Adam K: blocks, but it's more about the relationships you form through

29:59

Adam K: your meth deals or the, you know, the, the abuse at home and

30:03

Adam K: all this other stuff.

30:04

Adam K: And then then you're reminded, you know, go buy some tires.

30:07

aaron: Mhm.

30:08

Adam K: I'd play that.

30:10

aaron: I

30:10

Adam K: I

30:10

aaron: think

30:10

Adam K: wouldn't,

30:11

aaron: it'd be.

30:11

Adam K: but I it would.

30:12

aaron: I think it'd be a fun game to.

30:15

aaron: I don't know how hard those things are.

30:17

aaron: I imagine they're very hard.

30:18

aaron: But like, I just remember my summer car and if you.

30:24

aaron: I think the thing that would me.

30:26

aaron: And maybe people developed this.

30:27

aaron: But if it had that little like, oh, you're if you're stuck here,

30:30

aaron: you need this bolt.

30:31

aaron: I'm sure there was like some random guides that got put

30:35

aaron: together for that.

30:36

aaron: But like, I don't know how hard

30:38

aaron: it is to build those, these

30:41

aaron: things.

30:41

Adam K: It's really

30:42

aaron: And

30:42

Adam K: easy.

30:42

Adam K: Anyone can do it.

30:44

aaron: is it?

30:45

Adam K: Yeah, you should just just

30:47

Adam K: download the unreal SDK and get

30:50

Adam K: to work.

30:50

Adam K: It's so easy.

30:53

aaron: But I have to think about what I use my time for these days.

30:58

Adam K: Making

30:58

aaron: I don't have

30:59

Adam K: games

30:59

aaron: a lot of I

31:00

Adam K: shovelware.

31:00

aaron: don't have a lot of time left.

31:02

aaron: And I'm like.

31:03

Adam K: If you keep getting bit by dogs.

31:05

aaron: Well, that and I just, you know, there's too many open projects.

31:11

aaron: And then I'm talking about making my West Virginia.

31:14

aaron: I don't know which people would rather play the West Virginia

31:16

aaron: game or the California game.

31:20

Adam K: Um hmm.

31:23

Adam K: I think you start contemporary.

31:25

Adam K: So you do modern day Virginia and you do the rock star method.

31:31

Adam K: So

31:31

aaron: Oh,

31:31

Adam K: you start.

31:31

aaron: and then you do.

31:32

aaron: Yeah, yeah.

31:32

Adam K: Yeah. Then you then you do

31:34

Adam K: nineteen eighties coked out

31:38

Adam K: Porsche owner.

31:39

aaron: Mhm.

31:39

Adam K: That's the.

31:40

Adam K: Yeah, that's the sequel or the expansion.

31:43

Adam K: And then you, you build out from there.

31:44

Adam K: And then eventually you get to

31:45

Adam K: like, you know, the invention of

31:46

Adam K: the model T, so you gotta like

31:49

Adam K: crank the car up and, you know,

31:51

Adam K: you're injecting opium into your

31:53

Adam K: genitals.

31:55

aaron: And you spend all this time,

31:57

aaron: like, working on this car to

31:58

aaron: just go slightly faster than

32:00

aaron: walking pace.

32:03

Adam K: Uh, regardless, you die of gangrene.

32:07

Adam K: Doesn't matter.

32:09

aaron: You die of a heart attack at thirty five years old?

32:11

aaron: Because

32:11

Adam K: Mhm.

32:11

aaron: that's just what happens.

32:13

Adam K: Do you have a meter where you're

32:15

Adam K: constantly fighting off

32:16

Adam K: syphilis?

32:17

aaron: Mhm.

32:17

Adam K: So it's but you're there's no it's just question marks.

32:20

Adam K: So you're just, you know, you're

32:21

Adam K: buying leeches or injecting

32:24

Adam K: whatever mystery medicine, you

32:27

Adam K: know, Coca Cola's new heroin,

32:28

Adam K: you're just.

32:29

Adam K: Okay, fine.

32:30

Adam K: Whatever opiate.

32:31

aaron: Has that like, mechanic where time goes way quicker and

32:34

aaron: because of the time period, like you're constantly having

32:37

aaron: children like every

32:39

Adam K: And

32:39

aaron: like,

32:39

Adam K: losing them.

32:39

aaron: yeah.

32:40

aaron: And you also have, you have like

32:43

aaron: a wife in the next city over,

32:45

aaron: you

32:45

Adam K: Mhm.

32:45

aaron: know, because that's what you could have.

32:47

aaron: So you're, you're like really constantly having children and,

32:50

aaron: and then you just get the option to go out for.

32:53

aaron: Well, then it wouldn't have been a pack of cigarettes.

32:55

aaron: Then it would have been like, I need to go out for some radium.

32:59

aaron: I don't know what they would go out for, but and then disappear

33:01

aaron: and go to the next city.

33:04

Adam K: Uh, I think you just described Frank Lloyd Wright's life,

33:10

aaron: Mhm.

33:11

Adam K: except his family ended up getting murdered.

33:16

Adam K: He left his family for another woman, and then his entire

33:19

Adam K: family was murdered.

33:20

Adam K: And he's like,

33:20

aaron: Is

33:21

Adam K: I'm

33:21

aaron: that real?

33:21

Adam K: sad.

33:21

Adam K: Yeah, it's really sad.

33:24

aaron: Look this up.

33:25

Adam K: Learned all this in during the Wisconsin walking tour.

33:29

aaron: Uh.

33:30

Adam K: Yeah. This is as exciting as it sounds.

33:33

Adam K: I'm dying.

33:35

Adam K: Uh, I'm getting over this thing and just.

33:39

Adam K: It's not fun.

33:40

Adam K: It's not fun being sick this

33:42

aaron: Mhm.

33:42

Adam K: day and age, you know what I mean?

33:45

aaron: Um,

33:45

Adam K: I don't

33:45

aaron: I,

33:45

Adam K: want to do it anymore.

33:47

aaron: I have nothing but a claw for a hand, so I can't really.

33:52

Adam K: We're just.

33:53

Adam K: We're slowly falling.

33:54

Adam K: Not even slowly.

33:55

Adam K: We're just falling apart.

33:57

Adam K: I keep waiting for my body to heal itself.

33:59

Adam K: I'm like, why is that wound still open?

34:00

Adam K: I mean, I keep picking at it, but.

34:03

aaron: I've been moving really slowly

34:05

aaron: lately, and I'm like, isn't this

34:07

aaron: how it started with Michael J.

34:08

aaron: Fox and I keep like charting my

34:10

aaron: progress, making sure I'm not

34:12

aaron: dropping things inadvertently or

34:14

aaron: anything, but.

34:15

Adam K: As long as you don't call the ghost character doc on set, I

34:19

Adam K: think you'll be okay.

34:21

aaron: Is that what happened?

34:22

Adam K: That was like the beginning of the end.

34:24

Adam K: I think when he he realized he had it was on the set of The

34:26

Adam K: Frighteners and he kept

34:27

aaron: Oh

34:27

Adam K: calling.

34:28

aaron: that's right.

34:28

aaron: Yeah.

34:28

Adam K: Yeah, he kept calling the guy doc.

34:30

Adam K: And then he's like, no, it's it's not doc.

34:32

Adam K: And he was like, oh, sorry, I'm, I was somewhere else.

34:35

Adam K: And it's like, oh man, that sucks.

34:37

aaron: I think there's video of that online.

34:39

Adam K: Yeah.

34:40

aaron: I'm gonna look that up too.

34:41

aaron: After this Frank Lloyd Wright stuff.

34:43

Adam K: Yeah. That's good.

34:44

Adam K: I'm giving you a lot of homework to go through.

34:47

aaron: Yeah. And then I gotta figure out how to make this game really

34:50

aaron: what I need to do and what you'll see because I'll I'll

34:53

aaron: send you the link to it probably probably in two days because I

34:57

aaron: it's right now I deployed that site, but it's on Vercel and I'm

35:03

aaron: going through like a checklist of like, is this fine?

35:06

aaron: Is this good?

35:07

aaron: Blah, blah, blah, blah.

35:07

aaron: And then I'll have a live link.

35:09

aaron: But when I have the live link, I want to make sure I'm ready with

35:12

aaron: the, uh, SEO things and all the metadata and all the stuff,

35:16

aaron: blah, blah, blah.

35:16

aaron: So on Google, uh, I have not archives it.

35:20

aaron: Whatever they

35:21

Adam K: Crawls.

35:21

aaron: do crawls it.

35:23

aaron: It's not deemed a shitty page

35:25

aaron: right off the bat, even if

35:26

aaron: people aren't looking for it

35:27

aaron: right now.

35:28

Adam K: Mhm.

35:28

aaron: Anyway, all that to say, I got

35:30

aaron: to get that going and show you

35:31

aaron: that so you can think of a

35:34

aaron: great, uh, campaign to get it

35:38

aaron: going, whatever.

35:39

Adam K: I was thinking we should make a gamer muzzle add for those guys.

35:46

Adam K: The CEO.

35:47

Adam K: I think I sent it to you.

35:48

Adam K: He emailed me and was like, I love the video.

35:49

Adam K: Thank you.

35:50

Adam K: And he's, like, sending me stuff from behind the scenes of like,

35:53

Adam K: his first, like airsoft mass that they had built.

35:56

Adam K: And I was like, that's really cool, man.

35:58

Adam K: Like, I'm never going to use this thing.

36:00

Adam K: But I was trying to think of a

36:02

Adam K: video that we could make

36:04

Adam K: together that would just make us

36:06

Adam K: laugh.

36:06

Adam K: So. Yeah, maybe if it is geezer.

36:08

Adam K: I just I want to make an unhinged ad.

36:12

aaron: Yeah, well, we can do that actually.

36:15

aaron: If if, uh, because while you

36:18

aaron: were talking, I was just

36:19

aaron: thinking of when I did those

36:20

aaron: that free work for that second

36:22

aaron: scan and how stupid I looked and

36:25

aaron: how

36:25

Adam K: So.

36:25

aaron: that was.

36:25

Adam K: Oh, that's, um, the funny thing there.

36:30

Adam K: I would have stumbled upon that video whether you had told me

36:32

Adam K: about it or not.

36:34

aaron: Really?

36:34

Adam K: Yeah. Because I went on YouTube

36:37

Adam K: and typed, I was just trying to

36:39

Adam K: pull B-roll and I typed in mass

36:41

Adam K: loaded vinyl.

36:41

Adam K: And that was one of the first videos that popped up.

36:44

aaron: Hold on.

36:45

aaron: Let me see here

36:46

Adam K: I mean, maybe

36:46

aaron: one

36:46

Adam K: it was

36:46

aaron: more

36:46

Adam K: a,

36:46

aaron: thing.

36:47

Adam K: it could have been affected by

36:48

Adam K: my viewing history or cookies or

36:50

Adam K: whatever,

36:51

aaron: Knowing me.

36:52

Adam K: but it was like you showed up in the thumbnail.

36:54

Adam K: I was like, I probably would have stumbled upon this anyway.

36:59

Adam K: There's a good chance.

37:02

aaron: I don't see me.

37:04

Adam K: Okay, interesting

37:05

aaron: Uh,

37:06

Adam K: that it doesn't show.

37:07

aaron: yeah.

37:07

Adam K: You don't show up for you.

37:09

aaron: No. Uh, which is where I see all this other stuff.

37:14

aaron: But, yeah, those people were good.

37:18

aaron: They.

37:18

aaron: They make good stuff.

37:20

aaron: The Karmann Ghia is like, two hundred pounds heavier because

37:22

aaron: of that company.

37:25

Adam K: My mask is just sitting on top of some dumbbells in the corner

37:29

aaron: Should we

37:29

Adam K: of my

37:29

aaron: make

37:30

Adam K: office.

37:30

aaron: an unhinged video for that company?

37:33

Adam K: That's what I was thinking.

37:35

Adam K: I was like.

37:37

aaron: Why don't we why don't we come up with some pitches

37:40

Adam K: Yeah.

37:40

aaron: that for you and I and for a pitch meeting?

37:45

Adam K: Yeah. Again too.

37:46

Adam K: It's like, I don't want them to pay us yet.

37:50

Adam K: I, I want to just make something so bad that they kind of have to

37:54

Adam K: say no to it.

37:55

aaron: Yeah, yeah, we

37:56

Adam K: Because

37:57

aaron: spelled it.

37:57

Adam K: yeah, I mean it, But it's like, I don't want to do the same.

38:04

Adam K: Probably the place where our mind is going, which is like,

38:06

Adam K: okay, so most gamers are misogynistic, racist, um, you

38:12

Adam K: know, edgelords online.

38:14

Adam K: That's the easy one.

38:16

Adam K: I don't know.

38:17

Adam K: And then trying to think of what the psychotic version in the

38:23

Adam K: other direction is, but

38:25

aaron: MM.

38:25

Adam K: all the DayQuil in my head is making things fuzzy.

38:30

aaron: MM. Yeah.

38:31

Adam K: But the concept

38:32

aaron: Some gamer

38:32

Adam K: is there.

38:33

aaron: trying to like.

38:37

aaron: You know, it's just, it's some, uh, you know, half naked woman

38:42

aaron: in a bikini just comes in that he doesn't know that's trying to

38:46

aaron: borrow, um, something from him and he's like desperately trying

38:50

aaron: to get her away because he's a gamer and, uh, and he's yelling

38:55

aaron: at her and she just thinks that, uh, he he really wants her.

39:01

aaron: And so, uh, no, I don't know.

39:03

Adam K: Well,

39:03

aaron: Um.

39:03

Adam K: maybe it's something like.

39:05

Adam K: Like you and I are parents and

39:07

aaron: Uh-uh.

39:07

Adam K: we're just ashamed of our child.

39:08

Adam K: And we make an AI version of a what?

39:11

Adam K: Like our kid would look like if it had both of our genes.

39:14

aaron: Uh-uh.

39:14

Adam K: And we're just like, we're just

39:17

Adam K: so ashamed of him and he's so

39:20

Adam K: loud.

39:21

Adam K: But with the gamer muzzle or the

39:22

Adam K: vector, like we can at least,

39:26

Adam K: you know, we can hide him a

39:28

Adam K: little bit.

39:29

Adam K: Uh, you know, when we have

39:31

Adam K: people over for our weird sex

39:33

Adam K: parties.

39:34

aaron: I'm just imagining putting one

39:35

aaron: of those gaming masks on a

39:36

aaron: crying baby, and it's like,

39:38

aaron: silent.

39:39

aaron: And these, these parents are, like, very happy.

39:42

aaron: And then you cut to the, the chat in a game and it's wah wah.

39:49

aaron: It's just some battle royale thing.

39:51

aaron: And just someone's constantly

39:52

aaron: baby crying that they can't

39:54

aaron: mute.

39:56

aaron: Yeah.

39:56

Adam K: I do like mocking the consumer base.

39:59

Adam K: That's always good.

40:00

aaron: That's good.

40:00

aaron: That's always a winner.

40:03

Adam K: With the game or muzzle, you can put food in it to just

40:08

aaron: Oh, yeah.

40:09

Adam K: just.

40:09

aaron: You put the ranch in it and then put it to your face.

40:12

Adam K: Well, yeah.

40:13

Adam K: Just chicken.

40:13

Adam K: You fill it with chicken tenders and ranch and you mix it up like

40:17

Adam K: a, like a shake and bake.

40:19

Adam K: And then you, you put it on your, your teenager and then you

40:23

Adam K: got, uh, you know, three hours of Game of Thrones time or

40:26

Adam K: whatever you're doing.

40:28

aaron: These are all shitty ideas, but I think you and I could come up

40:31

aaron: with a really good one.

40:32

Adam K: Yeah. I, I like making stuff where there's nothing at stake.

40:36

Adam K: And since we did email thirty five environmental startups and

40:42

Adam K: not a single one got back to us.

40:45

Adam K: I'm

40:45

aaron: What if it's.

40:47

Adam K: yeah,

40:47

aaron: I know.

40:48

aaron: Okay.

40:48

Adam K: it's I'm

40:49

aaron: This

40:49

Adam K: just laughing.

40:49

aaron: is this is, uh, the gamer mask.

40:54

aaron: It's it's okay.

40:56

aaron: It's eighteen seventy something.

40:59

aaron: And you see this woman and, uh, you know, you see the sign on

41:02

aaron: the door says Helen Keller, and she's making all these noises,

41:08

aaron: and everyone's very, like, very impressed by her that she's

41:13

aaron: learned all this stuff, but she's still making all of her

41:16

aaron: Helen Keller noises.

41:18

aaron: So then the CEO of the company

41:21

aaron: comes out and gives her this

41:22

aaron: thing, and now she's able to

41:24

aaron: game quietly.

41:26

aaron: Um, I don't know what games Helen Keller plays.

41:31

aaron: Probably, uh.

41:32

Adam K: Hopscotch.

41:35

aaron: Uh, hot or cold.

41:36

aaron: I don't I don't know what she plays, but.

41:38

Adam K: I like where your your head's.

41:40

Adam K: I mean, I don't, but

41:41

aaron: Yeah.

41:41

Adam K: I like where your head's at.

41:44

Adam K: Whoo!

41:44

aaron: Anything with Helen Keller is funny, and

41:46

Adam K: Mhm.

41:47

aaron: that's just a universal comedy thing.

41:49

aaron: Um, so.

41:52

Adam K: Maybe we market it to those guys at the gym.

41:55

Adam K: Filming.

41:55

Adam K: Filming.

41:56

Adam K: Filming.

41:56

Adam K: Filming themselves.

41:58

aaron: Mhm.

41:59

Adam K: So you don't have to hear them.

42:01

aaron: Oh, maybe that's a that's a

42:03

aaron: solve for your lunk alarm

42:04

aaron: problem.

42:05

Adam K: Mhm.

42:06

aaron: You wear that

42:06

Adam K: What?

42:06

aaron: gamer mask?

42:07

Adam K: Oh, so I can.

42:08

Adam K: I can film myself at the gym, wearing that mask, screaming at

42:11

Adam K: the top of my lungs.

42:12

aaron: Huh?

42:13

Adam K: You can still hear it.

42:14

Adam K: That's the other thing, too.

42:16

Adam K: Is that, like, you can still

42:19

aaron: Are you saying

42:19

Adam K: hear.

42:19

aaron: that the product that we're going to market as this great

42:22

aaron: thing doesn't work?

42:24

Adam K: No, I mean, it works.

42:25

Adam K: It's just

42:26

aaron: You just hear muffled

42:27

Adam K: it's

42:27

aaron: stuff.

42:28

Adam K: muffled at the end of the day.

42:29

Adam K: Like it?

42:30

Adam K: Yeah.

42:30

Adam K: It cuts it down by whatever they

42:32

Adam K: said twenty DB's or something

42:33

Adam K: like that.

42:33

Adam K: I,

42:34

aaron: Mhm.

42:34

Adam K: I didn't buy any test equipment to test it.

42:36

Adam K: It was just more of like, well, I sound like a broken robot and

42:40

Adam K: I hate talking into a microphone during a playing a video game.

42:44

Adam K: So I just, I've given up on that.

42:46

Adam K: I just type in chat, which takes longer, but

42:49

aaron: Yeah.

42:51

Adam K: No, there's I again.

42:55

Adam K: The ideas are not coming because I'm on drugs.

42:58

Adam K: Legal drugs over the counter.

43:01

Adam K: I literally took them from over

43:03

Adam K: the counter at the drug dealer's

43:05

Adam K: house.

43:07

Adam K: But.

43:07

aaron: I didn't mind prescribed to me by someone who lives with me.

43:10

aaron: So whatever.

43:11

Adam K: That's cool.

43:13

aaron: I'm going to think about this.

43:14

aaron: This mask.

43:15

Adam K: Okay. Yeah, I wanted to ask you about that.

43:18

Adam K: And then I did.

43:19

Adam K: And then we had a discussion about it because I, I feel like

43:24

Adam K: their, their videos were very low budget, obviously.

43:28

Adam K: Like it's like the CEOs in the

43:30

Adam K: video and it follows this sort

43:33

Adam K: of like cookie cutter template

43:34

Adam K: of.

43:36

Adam K: But again, it feels, it feels like it could be massaged a

43:40

Adam K: little bit or we can just give it some, a weird edge that's.

43:46

Adam K: I was just thinking of that video you sent me of where

43:48

Adam K: someone like asked someone to make a video.

43:50

Adam K: And they they ended up doing

43:52

Adam K: the, uh, that submarine

43:55

Adam K: implosion instead.

43:58

aaron: Man. That's so good.

44:00

Adam K: That's where that's where I want to go where it's just, it's

44:03

aaron: The only

44:03

Adam K: so far in the other direction.

44:05

aaron: the only things I like, I think whether they're movies or ads or

44:10

aaron: whatever, is they're given a assignment and realizing that

44:17

aaron: they'll never have the ability to deliver to the brief and a

44:21

aaron: great assignment, they make something either about failing

44:25

aaron: to create it to the brief, like adaptation or something, or

44:31

aaron: completely ignoring it, which is kind of in the same token, but

44:34

aaron: completely ignoring it and making like that.

44:38

aaron: Yeah, that, uh, the summary and

44:39

aaron: the billionaire submarine, uh,

44:42

aaron: what the fuck was that thing

44:43

aaron: called?

44:44

aaron: Whatever.

44:45

aaron: I already forgot.

44:46

Adam K: Well, you sound like Don Hertzfeld.

44:48

aaron: Well, there's Don Hertzfeldt too, but yeah.

44:51

aaron: But, uh, I just love giving up and making something better.

44:58

aaron: That is only that the only thing you know how to make.

45:01

aaron: That's my favorite stuff.

45:04

Adam K: That's the thing too.

45:05

Adam K: Like I, I feel like it's this

45:07

Adam K: weird sort of catch twenty two,

45:09

Adam K: right?

45:09

Adam K: Like if you make the video to

45:11

Adam K: the specifications of the

45:13

Adam K: client, it's probably not going

45:14

Adam K: to be good because they have all

45:15

Adam K: these notes

45:17

aaron: Rules.

45:17

Adam K: and rules.

45:18

Adam K: And, but if you make it too edgy, then it comes off as too.

45:21

Adam K: Try hard.

45:22

Adam K: But if you bake in the story of

45:25

Adam K: yeah, we just did this anyway,

45:27

Adam K: then it becomes more

45:29

Adam K: interesting.

45:30

aaron: I

45:30

Adam K: But

45:31

aaron: think.

45:31

Adam K: you can't, you can't force it.

45:32

Adam K: It has to be kind of an organic thing.

45:34

Adam K: We're forcing it.

45:35

aaron: Yeah. You know, you're right.

45:37

aaron: I, I, I'm also reminded of that time at Roosterteeth where I

45:41

aaron: purposely tried to get well, I ended up succeeding, getting

45:45

aaron: kicked off of writing branded content and sponsored content.

45:50

aaron: After that Best Buy debacle,

45:52

Adam K: Yeah.

45:52

aaron: that was probably a shining moment for me.

45:56

aaron: No, it was a shining moment.

45:57

aaron: I think it was.

45:58

aaron: But the when you can pitch something to someone and it's

46:04

aaron: exactly to the tee of what you're going to do, and they

46:07

aaron: think you're so crazy that they don't believe that that's what

46:10

aaron: you're going to do.

46:11

aaron: And then you do it, and then they're legally obligated to

46:15

aaron: accept it and pay for it because they agreed to it, that it

46:20

aaron: doesn't get better than that.

46:21

Adam K: Yeah.

46:22

aaron: And then you get what exactly what you want.

46:24

aaron: You get fired from having to do those anymore.

46:29

aaron: Man.

46:30

Adam K: Well, my, my thought, my goal is like, well, this is just crap.

46:34

Adam K: I'll throw up on the YouTube channel or whatever.

46:35

Adam K: But the hope is that someone

46:38

Adam K: like a, uh, not a current liquid

46:40

Adam K: death, but someone of that ilk

46:44

Adam K: will see it and go, oh, I want

46:46

Adam K: to.

46:46

Adam K: Hey, I want to give you guys money and you just make whatever

46:48

Adam K: you want to make.

46:49

aaron: I

46:49

Adam K: I

46:49

aaron: want to

46:50

Adam K: don't

46:50

aaron: give you

46:50

Adam K: care.

46:50

aaron: guys two hundred dollars to make something crazy.

46:53

aaron: Let

46:53

Adam K: I

46:53

aaron: me go

46:53

Adam K: was thinking like one fifty, but

46:54

aaron: make

46:54

Adam K: man,

46:55

aaron: it

46:55

Adam K: if

46:55

aaron: one

46:55

Adam K: you

46:55

aaron: fifty.

46:56

aaron: You got a deal?

46:56

Adam K: I think if you can get it up to

46:58

Adam K: two hundred, man, I can eat this

47:00

Adam K: month.

47:01

Adam K: That would be great.

47:03

aaron: Yeah. After all this website building, I could use some cash.

47:08

Adam K: Remember when you built a WordPress site and it got hacked

47:11

Adam K: the day it launched and

47:13

aaron: I do.

47:13

Adam K: now.

47:14

aaron: That's why this is taking so long.

47:16

aaron: This time.

47:16

Adam K: Well, I was just saying like, how much PTSD do you have from

47:19

Adam K: that when you're about to launch something on Vercel?

47:22

aaron: More than I thought I would have.

47:26

Adam K: Yeah.

47:26

aaron: Because that was, like, immediate.

47:29

aaron: That was like d o s. And immediately.

47:32

aaron: Yeah.

47:33

aaron: All my passwords taken from me and all that, like it was.

47:39

aaron: There was just no. No chance.

47:41

Adam K: I just, I mean, anytime I tell you, like I'm doing something

47:45

Adam K: like, oh yeah, I'm doing some work on the house or anything.

47:47

Adam K: I know you get that the hair on

47:49

Adam K: the back of your neck stands up

47:50

Adam K: of like, oh, Adam should not be

47:51

Adam K: doing that.

47:52

Adam K: He should not be playing with electricity, any of that.

47:55

Adam K: It's the same way I feel anytime you're, you're like, I'm

47:57

Adam K: launching an app.

47:58

Adam K: I'm like, ooh,

48:00

aaron: Well.

48:00

Adam K: you sure you want to do that?

48:03

aaron: You know, I,

48:04

Adam K: You

48:04

aaron: I,

48:04

Adam K: should,

48:04

aaron: I

48:04

Adam K: you should.

48:04

aaron: put a good eight years in between the last one and luckily

48:09

aaron: the damage from the last one is I think someone ordered a shirt,

48:14

aaron: but the payment didn't actually go through, but I couldn't send

48:18

aaron: them the shirt anyway.

48:19

aaron: And I still see sometimes a

48:22

aaron: comment of like, yeah, didn't

48:23

aaron: someone order?

48:24

aaron: Didn't thousands of people order

48:27

aaron: shirts from him and they didn't

48:29

aaron: get them?

48:29

aaron: I was like, no, it was literally it was one person ordered a

48:32

aaron: shirt and, but because I got locked out of everything, I

48:34

aaron: couldn't even see who it was that ordered the shirt.

48:37

aaron: Yeah.

48:39

Adam K: And

48:40

aaron: And,

48:40

Adam K: that's

48:40

aaron: and

48:40

Adam K: the day

48:40

aaron: Jess

48:40

Adam K: you learned

48:41

aaron: made

48:41

Adam K: about.

48:41

aaron: that great artwork for it.

48:42

aaron: You know, I was actually thinking yesterday, I was like,

48:44

aaron: is there a way that I could incorporate some of what Jess

48:47

aaron: made for that?

48:48

aaron: Like some, some of the imagery or something into this, like the

48:53

aaron: playful aspect to where that didn't go all for naught because

48:57

aaron: she made some great stuff.

48:58

aaron: But.

48:59

Adam K: Yeah, I mean, I can't speak unlike you.

49:02

Adam K: I don't speak for women.

49:03

aaron: Yeah. Well,

49:04

Adam K: Yeah.

49:05

aaron: I as speaking for Jess, I know that I was proud making that

49:11

aaron: designing for Aaron.

49:13

Adam K: Your your heart was in the right place, and

49:15

aaron: Yeah.

49:16

Adam K: I'm

49:16

aaron: But

49:16

Adam K: sorry,

49:17

aaron: my technical skills were not.

49:18

Adam K: but I'm just.

49:19

Adam K: Yeah. No, not even close.

49:21

Adam K: And it's just sad that ten thousand people didn't get the

49:23

Adam K: shirts that they ordered and that you pocketed all that money

49:26

Adam K: for mass loaded vinyl to go into your dream car.

49:29

aaron: Yeah.

49:29

Adam K: So.

49:30

aaron: See that money from the, like

49:33

aaron: fifty thousand people who

49:34

aaron: immediately subscribed and

49:35

aaron: bought shirts.

49:36

aaron: I lived off of that quarter of a million dollars for.

49:41

aaron: a year while I did other things.

49:44

aaron: And.

49:45

Adam K: Blew it all at a casino in Macau.

49:48

aaron: Yeah. Uh, what?

49:51

aaron: Uh, no. This time it's actually nice because there's all this.

49:56

aaron: All of these companies, stripe and checker and all these other,

50:01

aaron: they've got these, like, they basically set up these systems,

50:04

aaron: these API systems where they're like, uh, no, you, before we

50:08

aaron: grant you the full access, you walk us through your thing so we

50:12

aaron: make sure you're not fucking it up and our name is protected and

50:15

aaron: all this stuff.

50:16

aaron: So it's like later this week, or it might be next week, I have to

50:21

aaron: walk one of the vendors, the, the main vendor that does the

50:25

aaron: background checks on this thing, like to make sure that you're,

50:29

aaron: you know, pedophile, you're not meeting up with a pedophile or

50:31

aaron: something like that.

50:32

aaron: Uh, unless you select

50:34

Adam K: You

50:34

aaron: that,

50:35

Adam K: can't

50:35

aaron: which

50:35

Adam K: guarantee

50:35

aaron: that

50:36

Adam K: that.

50:36

aaron: is an option.

50:37

aaron: But this company, it's called checker.

50:40

aaron: They're like, no, no, you got to

50:41

aaron: walk us through end to end, the

50:44

aaron: signup flow, what this looks

50:46

aaron: like, how it works, blah, blah,

50:48

aaron: blah, blah.

50:49

aaron: And then you get the full access

50:50

aaron: because I've been working with

50:51

aaron: sandboxes, pardon me this entire

50:53

aaron: time, so

50:55

Adam K: Yeah.

50:55

aaron: whatever.

50:55

Adam K: Well,

50:55

aaron: Anyway,

50:56

Adam K: yeah.

50:56

aaron: boring.

50:56

Adam K: You you know, you need to be in the sandbox.

51:00

Adam K: That's that's good for you.

51:03

aaron: This is good.

51:04

Adam K: Maybe

51:04

aaron: I

51:04

Adam K: stay

51:04

aaron: learned a

51:04

Adam K: there,

51:04

aaron: lot.

51:05

Adam K: though.

51:06

Adam K: Yeah. I'm in a sandbox right now.

51:08

Adam K: I'm a sandbox on my phone.

51:10

aaron: No.

51:10

Adam K: I don't know, but I'm

51:13

aaron: I'm

51:13

Adam K: wishing

51:13

aaron: going

51:13

Adam K: you

51:13

aaron: to.

51:13

Adam K: luck.

51:13

Adam K: You're going to write about that this week.

51:16

aaron: Uh, I might, yeah, actually,

51:17

Adam K: Okay.

51:17

aaron: um, because I think that I think

51:22

aaron: it'll be actually on the URL

51:24

aaron: this week

51:25

Adam K: Okay.

51:25

aaron: because right now I'm, I'm looking at it right now, but

51:28

aaron: it's, it's on the oh, it's on the, um, the state and not the,

51:35

aaron: what is it called?

51:36

aaron: What do they call it?

51:38

aaron: the the deployment preview or I don't know, basically it's all

51:43

aaron: at this, this protected domain that I'm it's like, I mean, it's

51:49

aaron: online, but it's not pointed to the actual domain.

51:52

aaron: So.

51:53

Adam K: I was trying to formulate a thought around this.

51:56

Adam K: I was just thinking about the

51:57

Adam K: time where usher got on the

51:59

Adam K: plane with T-Pain, and he, like,

52:01

Adam K: walked up to him and said,

52:02

Adam K: you've ruined music because of

52:04

Adam K: his.

52:04

aaron: To T-Pain.

52:05

Adam K: Uh, yeah.

52:06

Adam K: Like nicest guy in the.

52:07

Adam K: I think I saw the story where,

52:08

Adam K: like T-Pain sold his his music

52:10

Adam K: catalog for like one hundred

52:11

Adam K: million

52:11

aaron: On

52:11

Adam K: dollars

52:12

aaron: his

52:12

Adam K: or something.

52:12

aaron: kids.

52:13

Adam K: He

52:13

aaron: Yeah.

52:13

Adam K: what?

52:14

aaron: Because

52:14

Adam K: Yeah.

52:14

aaron: he was like, I want my kids to be good in this in the,

52:17

Adam K: Mhm.

52:17

aaron: the lives going forward.

52:19

Adam K: I think also Usher's I think he

52:21

Adam K: was really good friends with P

52:22

Adam K: Diddy.

52:23

Adam K: I don't know, I don't know.

52:24

aaron: Uh.

52:25

Adam K: This is just conjecture hearsay.

52:27

aaron: It sounds like almost like slander.

52:30

Adam K: No no no.

52:32

aaron: No,

52:32

Adam K: That has to be written.

52:33

Adam K: Your

52:33

aaron: no.

52:33

Adam K: honor,

52:34

aaron: Libel

52:34

Adam K: I.

52:34

aaron: has to be.

52:37

Adam K: Look, as I'm representing myself in this trial.

52:40

aaron: Yeah.

52:41

Adam K: I would like to ask questions

52:43

Adam K: and then be shot down by the

52:44

Adam K: judge when they're not in the

52:45

Adam K: form of a question or whatever

52:46

Adam K: it's supposed

52:47

aaron: I gotta

52:47

Adam K: to be.

52:47

aaron: show you some sovereign citizen videos and you get rid of that

52:50

Adam K: Regardless,

52:50

aaron: right now.

52:51

Adam K: I was just thinking back to

52:52

Adam K: that, and there was this hubbub

52:56

Adam K: around the time, you know,

52:58

Adam K: Vocaloids came out and vocoders

53:01

Adam K: and all these things, whatever,

53:03

Adam K: just the autotune where it's

53:04

Adam K: like, okay, well, now anyone can

53:07

Adam K: be a singer and it doesn't

53:08

Adam K: matter.

53:08

Adam K: But then like T-Pain, like

53:09

Adam K: leaned into it and that was his

53:12

Adam K: whole schtick.

53:13

Adam K: But he's also just a really talented artist.

53:15

Adam K: So it's like, well, he's just

53:16

Adam K: using a tool to push him in a

53:18

Adam K: direction.

53:19

Adam K: And again, trying to relate

53:20

Adam K: everything to AI and where

53:22

Adam K: things are right now, where it's

53:23

Adam K: like, this feels different, but

53:26

Adam K: the same.

53:27

Adam K: Does that make sense?

53:28

aaron: Uh, yeah.

53:29

aaron: Sorta.

53:30

Adam K: Like it's lowering the bar where

53:32

Adam K: like, anyone can make a video

53:34

Adam K: now and they're not very good,

53:37

Adam K: but

53:38

aaron: Yeah.

53:38

Adam K: sometimes there's something good in there or has like spackling

53:43

Adam K: of something like a good idea.

53:45

Adam K: And I like for me, so much of this stuff is just where it's

53:48

Adam K: like, I think it's just modern pre-vis for now, but people just

53:56

Adam K: get so excited about this and they're like, it's done.

53:59

Adam K: It's, it's ready for prime time.

54:00

Adam K: It's like, I don't think it is, but it's just coming out and

54:04

Adam K: it's being, it's advancing so fast and people are just jumping

54:07

Adam K: all in on it.

54:07

Adam K: And now having regret for jumping all in because it looks

54:11

Adam K: like shit or sounds like shit.

54:14

Adam K: Um, but there's always like a time and a place.

54:16

Adam K: I was listening to a podcast,

54:18

Adam K: uh, search engine yesterday and

54:20

Adam K: they're talking to a drug dealer

54:22

Adam K: and right at the top they said,

54:23

Adam K: oh, we, we changed his voice

54:25

Adam K: with AI.

54:25

Adam K: I was like, oh, that's so much better than lowering it and

54:28

Adam K: adding a base filter.

54:30

aaron: Oh, yeah.

54:31

aaron: They just changed it to a normal voice.

54:32

aaron: That's just different.

54:33

Adam K: Mhm. I was like, that's smart.

54:34

Adam K: That's a really good use of it.

54:36

Adam K: As opposed to the first thought of being, well, I can steal.

54:42

Adam K: Well, George Lowe is dead and I

54:43

Adam K: want to make new space ghost

54:45

Adam K: episodes.

54:46

Adam K: I can do that as like, well, maybe don't I always assume

54:50

Adam K: people have good intentions and that's that's on me.

54:53

Adam K: That's my bad.

54:54

aaron: Yeah, that's that's the, uh, pessimist in, you

54:58

Adam K: Optimist.

55:00

aaron: know, the, the, when you said, that's my bad, that's on me.

55:05

Adam K: Well, it's that's the

55:06

Adam K: pessimistic side of me for being

55:08

Adam K: too optimistic.

55:09

aaron: That's what I'm saying.

55:10

Adam K: Yeah. It's a yin and a yang.

55:12

Adam K: Look, I'm the glass is just empty.

55:15

Adam K: It's not even half full.

55:17

aaron: Yeah. I think I'm going to take my claw hand and go exercise.

55:20

aaron: I, but I do want I do want that mask pitch.

55:25

aaron: We should, uh, and we should, we should talk about.

55:30

aaron: I wonder if there's a way.

55:34

aaron: We. It might be a thing that we put together that once we

55:37

aaron: assemble the parts, once we have a finished video and then have

55:40

aaron: an article about it.

55:41

aaron: But

55:42

Adam K: Yeah.

55:42

aaron: there's a. The modular person in me is like, we make this silly

55:50

aaron: commercial, but then we also show the process behind it, how

55:53

aaron: we did it.

55:53

Adam K: Yeah. I don't want it to be, you

55:56

aaron: A big

55:56

Adam K: know,

55:56

aaron: thing.

55:57

Adam K: an AI slop fest, obviously.

55:59

aaron: No.

55:59

Adam K: Use it.

56:00

Adam K: Use it where we can.

56:01

Adam K: Um.

56:03

aaron: I think I'll be obviously I'll be the personality in it.

56:06

aaron: Um, obviously.

56:08

Adam K: I figured it'd just be you and I both just.

56:12

Adam K: I don't know either.

56:13

Adam K: I fly out there, you fly out here.

56:16

aaron: I could fly.

56:16

aaron: Oh, I think I have a united credit.

56:22

Adam K: You will never show up here.

56:24

aaron: No they've

56:25

Adam K: You're gonna

56:25

aaron: been

56:25

Adam K: be

56:25

aaron: they've

56:25

Adam K: stuck at the

56:25

aaron: been

56:26

Adam K: airport.

56:26

aaron: flying people recently.

56:27

Adam K: Really?

56:28

aaron: Yeah.

56:29

Adam K: Real

56:29

aaron: Uh.

56:29

Adam K: humans.

56:30

aaron: Uh. I know they've flown.

56:33

aaron: No, they haven't flown any dogs.

56:34

aaron: They're still they're still not able to do that.

56:36

aaron: But.

56:37

Adam K: No, I don't.

56:37

Adam K: Do not bring Riggs for his own safety.

56:40

Adam K: I'd rather him hang out with a German Shepherd.

56:42

aaron: You know,

56:43

Adam K: The

56:43

aaron: it's

56:43

Adam K: dog park on the

56:43

aaron: it's

56:43

Adam K: weekend.

56:44

aaron: about to get worse, too, because my uncle is retiring in two

56:47

aaron: months from United.

56:48

aaron: So like their last great person to, you know, make sure planes

56:53

aaron: are okay is leaving.

56:56

Adam K: Uh.

56:58

aaron: And even he was like, yeah, it's going downhill.

57:01

aaron: I'm leaving.

57:03

aaron: Okay.

57:05

Adam K: He's the guy who knows how to use the wrench.

57:07

aaron: Well, the

57:07

Adam K: He's

57:08

aaron: he, uh,

57:08

Adam K: leaving.

57:08

aaron: he was like, yeah, they were,

57:10

aaron: uh, the other day they were

57:12

aaron: trying to put these winglets on

57:15

aaron: this, uh, seven, eight, seven or

57:17

aaron: it was one of the triple sevens

57:19

aaron: and no one knew how to do it the

57:21

aaron: right way.

57:22

aaron: And so I project managed it and

57:25

aaron: guided them through putting on

57:26

aaron: these winglets.

57:27

aaron: That shouldn't be a big deal.

57:28

aaron: And I was like, I don't know anything that you're saying.

57:32

aaron: And then he he described it and

57:34

aaron: he's like, yeah, this the new

57:36

aaron: bunch.

57:37

aaron: It's going to be interesting.

57:38

aaron: Usually we, I was able to just put those people on interior

57:41

aaron: detail and let them, you know, install seats and stuff.

57:44

aaron: But yeah, now they're working on engines.

57:49

aaron: That's cool.

57:50

Adam K: Cool. So don't fly.

57:52

Adam K: You not continue not flying.

57:54

Adam K: United is what you're saying.

57:56

aaron: Yeah. I'm supposed to have travel credit in here, but I

57:58

aaron: don't see it.

58:00

aaron: Whatever.

58:00

aaron: I'll just buy it sick.

58:01

aaron: It doesn't matter.

58:02

Adam K: You know, this is also, uh, here's here's a quick review.

58:06

Adam K: I bought the Logitech.

58:09

Adam K: I think it's called a super

58:10

Adam K: strike x2 or something like

58:12

Adam K: that.

58:12

aaron: Yeah.

58:13

Adam K: Uh, this is, this is an ad for you and NPR.

58:16

Adam K: Listen to me.

58:17

Adam K: Click.

58:18

Adam K: Can you hear it?

58:21

Adam K: You can't hear it.

58:22

aaron: I can I can hear you wheezing.

58:27

aaron: I don't, but I

58:27

Adam K: Let

58:27

aaron: don't

58:27

Adam K: me

58:27

aaron: hear

58:27

Adam K: pull

58:28

aaron: that.

58:28

Adam K: my mouth away from the microphone.

58:29

Adam K: I'm clicking.

58:30

Adam K: Listen.

58:32

aaron: You don't?

58:34

aaron: You don't sound like Lakshmi Xing.

58:36

Adam K: No, uh, just barreling through the news for that day.

58:42

aaron: Click click click click.

58:44

Adam K: Yeah.

58:44

aaron: Yeah.

58:44

Adam K: Uh, it's got these, like,

58:46

Adam K: magnetic switches in it or

58:47

Adam K: something.

58:48

Adam K: Uh, whatever.

58:49

Adam K: But they they dampen the clicking.

58:52

Adam K: It's so nice.

58:53

aaron: That's cool.

58:54

Adam K: It's like one hundred and fifty dollars, though.

58:56

Adam K: I think it's usually two hundred.

58:57

Adam K: I got it on that was technically on sale, so

59:00

aaron: That's not cool.

59:00

Adam K: it's not cool.

59:01

Adam K: It's very pricey.

59:03

aaron: Do you think it's gonna be hard?

59:04

aaron: Okay, I'll message these boring car stories.

59:06

aaron: People too on Instagram.

59:07

aaron: I wonder

59:07

Adam K: Yeah. Why

59:08

aaron: if it'll

59:08

Adam K: not?

59:08

aaron: be hard to get Ahold of them.

59:09

aaron: They have eleven thousand followers.

59:11

aaron: I'm down to eight and a half thousand now.

59:15

Adam K: Down.

59:16

aaron: Yeah,

59:16

Adam K: Uh. Keep leaving

59:17

aaron: I

59:17

Adam K: you.

59:17

aaron: continually, continually lose followers.

59:21

Adam K: It's probably for the best.

59:23

aaron: Yeah, I just don't.

59:24

aaron: I basically, I've just been

59:26

aaron: hemorrhaging followers since I

59:27

aaron: started the accounts at Rooster

59:29

aaron: Teeth.

59:29

aaron: So they started and they immediately got, you know, I

59:32

aaron: think my Instagram got twenty thousand and my, my Twitter had

59:37

aaron: sixty or seventy.

59:39

aaron: I don't even know what it was.

59:40

aaron: They immediately got that.

59:41

Adam K: Uh.

59:41

aaron: And then because I don't post for the last ten years, they've

59:46

aaron: just been bleeding.

59:48

aaron: And I don't really care.

59:49

aaron: Who cares?

59:50

Adam K: It's a again, no one no one needs social media.

59:54

Adam K: And I, I commend you for, you know, playing with the sickness,

1:00:00

Adam K: but you don't need it.

1:00:02

aaron: Yeah. I think it's hurting my

1:00:04

aaron: career, not doing it, but

1:00:06

aaron: whatever.

1:00:06

aaron: Um,

1:00:07

Adam K: What career?

1:00:08

aaron: that exactly.

1:00:09

aaron: That's what I'm saying.

1:00:10

Adam K: Oh, well, there was one guy, one

1:00:14

Adam K: of our subscribers, I think he

1:00:16

Adam K: got the same email and he's

1:00:17

Adam K: like, I can't get your

1:00:18

Adam K: newsletters.

1:00:19

aaron: Yeah.

1:00:20

Adam K: And I was like, okay, well, let

1:00:22

Adam K: me I talked to the the web host

1:00:25

Adam K: guy.

1:00:25

Adam K: He couldn't.

1:00:26

Adam K: He was like, you probably marked a spam.

1:00:28

Adam K: I made like a change on our end.

1:00:30

Adam K: And then I emailed him again and

1:00:31

Adam K: say, hey, are you getting our

1:00:32

Adam K: email?

1:00:32

Adam K: Obviously not because he didn't respond.

1:00:35

Adam K: Um, but I did ask like, is there

1:00:36

Adam K: like a social media thing you

1:00:40

Adam K: prefer?

1:00:40

Adam K: We'll just make an account there

1:00:42

Adam K: and I will just send you the

1:00:44

Adam K: notification through that social

1:00:46

Adam K: media.

1:00:47

Adam K: But that is probably something we should do.

1:00:50

Adam K: I don't know.

1:00:50

Adam K: Is that worth anything?

1:00:51

Adam K: I don't want to run social media.

1:00:53

Adam K: I don't want to look at social media.

1:00:54

aaron: I don't know what you're saying.

1:00:56

aaron: Have a have social media or something.

1:00:57

aaron: What are you

1:00:58

Adam K: Have

1:00:58

aaron: talking about?

1:00:58

Adam K: basically a null and void account like we used to before.

1:01:02

Adam K: You lost my Twitter password or whatever happened.

1:01:06

Adam K: Um.

1:01:06

aaron: I mean, I think it wasn't logged

1:01:08

aaron: into after however many days of

1:01:10

aaron: not.

1:01:11

aaron: I you asked someone who doesn't use Twitter to, to be like, hold

1:01:15

aaron: this Twitter thing and I did,

1:01:17

Adam K: Yeah.

1:01:17

aaron: but then I didn't log back into it.

1:01:19

Adam K: Which is I more commendable.

1:01:22

Adam K: Regardless, it doesn't doesn't really matter.

1:01:24

Adam K: I was just like, most people probably don't want to rely on

1:01:27

Adam K: email and I can, you know,

1:01:30

aaron: That's

1:01:30

Adam K: I.

1:01:31

aaron: why on the top of my the side

1:01:33

aaron: that I built, I literally I put

1:01:35

aaron: a black bar at the top with

1:01:38

aaron: whatever I can put whatever at

1:01:39

aaron: the top of it and say, there's a

1:01:41

aaron: new.

1:01:41

aaron: Well, if it were null and void, I'd be like, there's a new blog

1:01:44

aaron: out, there's a new email that went out or not getting our

1:01:47

aaron: emails, report it here, you know, whatever it is, it's just

1:01:50

aaron: like a news banner at the top.

1:01:52

Adam K: Yeah, but like, it wouldn't be hard to just use an A to N or

1:01:58

Adam K: probably even Claude or any one of these things.

1:02:00

Adam K: Just build an automation that anytime a new story goes out,

1:02:04

Adam K: it's just an automated social media account that just says,

1:02:07

Adam K: here it is, new link.

1:02:08

Adam K: So if you want to follow it

1:02:10

Adam K: there, but then I that's all it

1:02:14

Adam K: is.

1:02:14

Adam K: It's just basically a glorified RSS feed, but I don't know.

1:02:22

Adam K: Is that worth

1:02:22

aaron: Well,

1:02:23

Adam K: it?

1:02:23

Adam K: Do you think?

1:02:24

aaron: yeah, probably.

1:02:25

aaron: I mean, I'll write that as a thing, too.

1:02:28

Adam K: I'm glad someone's taking notes.

1:02:30

aaron: Yeah. Gotta have meeting notes.

1:02:33

aaron: Alright.

1:02:33

aaron: I need to get out of here.

1:02:34

Adam K: Sam. All right.

1:02:35

Adam K: I will talk to

1:02:36

aaron: Social

1:02:36

Adam K: you later.

1:02:36

aaron: media.

1:02:36

Adam K: I look forward to your geyser.

1:02:37

Adam K: And.

1:02:38

Adam K: Yeah, I think I'm going

1:02:38

aaron: Yeah.

1:02:38

Adam K: to do something similar, but different.

1:02:41

Adam K: So it's going

1:02:42

aaron: What?

1:02:42

Adam K: to be a vibe coated kind of week.

1:02:45

aaron: Really?

1:02:46

Adam K: I

1:02:46

aaron: You're making

1:02:46

Adam K: made

1:02:46

aaron: old

1:02:47

Adam K: an

1:02:47

aaron: person something.

1:02:48

Adam K: I may I'm going to I had this idea where basically I'm still

1:02:52

Adam K: trying to I can't find any really great videos on how to

1:02:55

Adam K: use the terminal.

1:02:56

Adam K: Um, like just like basic.

1:02:58

Adam K: So I, I asked Claude to make a app for like five year olds.

1:03:01

Adam K: I was like, imagine this is for

1:03:02

Adam K: like an elementary school or

1:03:04

Adam K: middle school where you create

1:03:06

Adam K: like a really kid friendly

1:03:07

Adam K: version of like, how do you do

1:03:08

Adam K: terminal commands?

1:03:10

Adam K: And I ended up making something kind of cool and a little retro.

1:03:12

Adam K: And I was like, you know what?

1:03:13

Adam K: Fuck it.

1:03:13

Adam K: I'm just going to make this into

1:03:14

Adam K: a website and like, this is my

1:03:17

Adam K: charity, I guess is like if any

1:03:20

Adam K: schools or anything want to use

1:03:21

Adam K: this thing, I'm just going to

1:03:23

Adam K: set up a free website that can

1:03:24

Adam K: use it.

1:03:25

Adam K: Why not?

1:03:26

aaron: That's nice.

1:03:27

Adam K: Yeah, it created a cute little raccoon character named bite.

1:03:31

Adam K: He's like your little avatar.

1:03:33

Adam K: He's like.

1:03:34

Adam K: And he makes all these different faces.

1:03:35

Adam K: Uh, wildly, you know, um, inconsistent.

1:03:41

Adam K: Like his glasses change colors all the time.

1:03:43

Adam K: But, um, I like the idea.

1:03:45

Adam K: And again, too, I'm like, I'm

1:03:46

Adam K: not trying to make money off of

1:03:48

Adam K: this thing.

1:03:48

Adam K: This is, this is not something

1:03:50

Adam K: it was built specifically for

1:03:52

Adam K: me.

1:03:52

Adam K: So

1:03:52

aaron: So

1:03:52

Adam K: I know how

1:03:52

aaron: you're

1:03:53

Adam K: to like.

1:03:53

aaron: trying to make money off of

1:03:55

aaron: kids, and I'm trying to make off

1:03:56

aaron: old people.

1:03:57

aaron: I see what's happening here.

1:03:59

Adam K: However, I can just sell shirts and not send them.

1:04:02

Adam K: I'm good.

1:04:03

aaron: Yeah, well,

1:04:04

Adam K: That's all.

1:04:04

aaron: that seven hundred grand I made was good for a while.

1:04:09

aaron: It lasted me almost six months.

1:04:11

Adam K: Yeah. Until you blew it on Intel stock, you

1:04:14

aaron: Uh,

1:04:14

Adam K: moron.

1:04:14

aaron: no. No, I bought Bitcoin at the top when it was six thousand

1:04:19

aaron: eight hundred dollars and crashed down to two.

1:04:21

Adam K: You're supposed to buy ether or

1:04:24

Adam K: one of the other ones that buy

1:04:27

Adam K: Doge.

1:04:28

aaron: I've had them all, and then I

1:04:29

aaron: didn't hold them longer than two

1:04:32

aaron: months.

1:04:32

aaron: And that's when you get the you see the tweets.

1:04:35

aaron: It's like, did anyone see fart

1:04:36

aaron: coin went up eight thousand

1:04:38

aaron: percent.

1:04:38

aaron: And you're like, well.

1:04:39

Adam K: So you're telling me I should buy SpaceX stock now?

1:04:44

aaron: Actually, probably.

1:04:45

aaron: But.

1:04:45

Adam K: Okay. Not like the mom and pops

1:04:49

Adam K: who bought it all at the the

1:04:51

Adam K: height.

1:04:52

aaron: No.

1:04:53

Adam K: Oh. I'm not good with money.

1:04:58

aaron: Yeah. You hear me clicking on my old mouse.

1:05:00

Adam K: I do you need to buy a two hundred dollars mouse so I don't

1:05:03

Adam K: have to hear that anymore.

1:05:04

Adam K: It's a very simple solution.

1:05:06

aaron: Yeah. Well, let's see how my new ventures go.

1:05:11

Adam K: All right.

1:05:12

Adam K: I will talk to you later.

1:05:13

aaron: All right.

1:05:14

aaron: Bye.

1:05:15

Adam K: Bye.