Aaron: Hello.
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Adam K: Hi. Why do you always answer it like an old man?
Aaron: I'm scared of what's in the dark.
Adam K: Whoa!
Adam K: Can I give you money?
Aaron: No.
Adam K: Okay, you can give me money.
Aaron: I, uh.
Aaron: Thinking about abandoning you and getting on board with this,
Aaron: uh, old high school friend of mine named George Ferry.
Aaron: Just won a city council seat in,
Aaron: uh, Denton, and he's, like, one
Aaron: of the first non-binary city
Aaron: council members elected in
Aaron: Texas.
Aaron: And George is like, George is as
Aaron: has no filter, and he doesn't
Aaron: give a fuck about like, you, uh,
Aaron: you know, sensibilities or norms
Aaron: or anything.
Aaron: And he's got, he's, he's going to be good at what he does.
Aaron: So anyway, what I was thinking
Aaron: is I lend my creative skills to
Aaron: someone who could be the next
Aaron: president.
Aaron: Furthering my own career.
Adam K: Yeah. I mean, I could see you
Adam K: being in control of a YouTube
Adam K: channel, but just like the
Adam K: YouTube shorts.
Aaron: No no no. I want to be the
Aaron: Carville, Paul Begala esque war
Aaron: room that, like, got Clinton
Aaron: elected.
Aaron: Except,
Adam K: Mhm.
Aaron: you know, I don't want to quite look like a human penis.
Aaron: And I don't want
Adam K: Mhm.
Aaron: to have to be dealing with all of like the, you know, the
Aaron: candidate, uh, this he's fathered another child out
Adam K: I,
Aaron: of wedlock.
Adam K: I see you as more of a Stephanopoulos.
Aaron: Yeah. Except
Adam K: Yeah.
Aaron: I'm, I think I'm about three
Aaron: feet taller than George
Aaron: Stephanopoulos.
Aaron: But.
Adam K: I don't understand how height
Adam K: plays into your creative skill
Adam K: of getting a likable person
Adam K: elected.
Adam K: He's also already elected, so I
Adam K: don't know what you would be
Adam K: helping with.
Aaron: That's like saying, you know, in two thousand and three.
Aaron: Oh, this this guy Obama.
Aaron: He's already a community
Aaron: organizer and he got elected to
Aaron: this thing.
Aaron: Why would you help this guy?
Aaron: Well, I don't know.
Aaron: Why.
Aaron: Would you?
Aaron: Huh?
Aaron: How
Adam K: Oh,
Aaron: about
Adam K: you.
Aaron: that?
Adam K: Oh, so you want to take this guy all the way to the white
Aaron: Yeah.
Adam K: House?
Adam K: Or at the very least, the Senate floor.
Aaron: Yes.
Adam K: Okay.
Aaron: And really, it's kind of like a a plan for retirement because,
Aaron: like with McConnell's people, they had a solid job for the
Aaron: last forty years.
Aaron: And even with him dead, they have solid
Adam K: I
Aaron: jobs.
Adam K: was going to say they have at least another ten years to
Adam K: figure out what they want to do.
Aaron: Yeah. So
Adam K: Oh.
Aaron: it's really kind of hedging my, my bets.
Aaron: But he,
Adam K: I,
Aaron: I.
Adam K: I don't I don't see you in politics, though.
Adam K: You.
Adam K: Unless
Aaron: But that's
Adam K: you
Aaron: the
Adam K: just.
Aaron: great thing that I wouldn't be in politics.
Aaron: I'd be peripherally in politics.
Adam K: Uh-uh.
Adam K: You just be the wormtongue in the background.
Aaron: Yeah.
Adam K: Okay.
Aaron: Well, I'd be constantly be saying like, well, we're not
Aaron: going to read your lips.
Aaron: We're going to read your record is what I'd be.
Aaron: I'd say stuff like that.
Adam K: Yeah.
Aaron: And I said, speed kills.
Aaron: We get on the radio and then we
Aaron: get on TV and we're going to
Aaron: we're going to lay it out like
Aaron: it is, and they're going to read
Aaron: a record.
Aaron: That's.
Aaron: Yeah, I gotta
Adam K: That was
Aaron: learn.
Adam K: a long set of just to do your Carville impersonation
Aaron: No no
Adam K: or
Aaron: no no.
Adam K: just to mock all the Cajuns, but
Aaron: That's
Adam K: I appreciate
Aaron: Carvell.
Adam K: it.
Aaron: First of all, I don't need a reason to mock him, but it just
Aaron: happened to work here.
Aaron: Um, second of all, I probably watched the War Room documentary
Aaron: once every six months.
Aaron: Um, I'm not sure why I alternate between that and dirty Harry and
Aaron: take from that what you will.
Aaron: But.
Adam K: Two very different but enjoyable documentaries.
Aaron: But you.
Aaron: I think you would like creating political commercials.
Aaron: I think.
Adam K: Keep going.
Aaron: I think you'd enjoy it, especially for someone like
Aaron: George, because he's like, it's like creating commercials for
Aaron: John Waters running for office.
Aaron: Like who?
Aaron: Make anything
Adam K: Okay.
Aaron: you want.
Adam K: Yeah, I would be down for that if it was if you could do the
Adam K: sort of George Carlin take or just just say what everyone's
Adam K: thinking and the fact that the corruption is just I mean,
Adam K: corruption has been around since, you know, we we got the
Adam K: ability to walk on this planet.
Adam K: But now it's just so out there.
Adam K: It's just it's the sort of like it's shameless.
Adam K: So I guess you have to meet it with shameless of just like,
Adam K: listen, you're going to vote for a pedophile whether you like it
Adam K: or not, but we want to try to change your mind and you just,
Adam K: you hammer that in.
Adam K: You're
Aaron: I
Adam K: like.
Aaron: mean, there is some truth.
Aaron: There is truth to like, okay, if
Aaron: you are completely unhinged, but
Aaron: instead of being unhinged and
Aaron: corrupt and wanting to, you
Aaron: know, install flock cameras and
Aaron: follow around pregnant women, if
Aaron: you
Adam K: Yeah.
Aaron: are unhinged and want to actually like, oh, we're going
Aaron: to open up more public libraries and things like that.
Aaron: Why the fuck not?
Aaron: Like that's, that's
Adam K: I'm for
Aaron: the best
Adam K: that.
Aaron: way.
Adam K: Yeah, I don't I would always I would love to find someone who
Adam K: can just shut down the whole like the, the stuff that wastes
Adam K: everyone's time and the stuff.
Adam K: No one should be like, uh, you,
Adam K: I, I don't care what your gender
Adam K: is.
Adam K: I don't care who you sleep with.
Adam K: I don't care like, and it's like, if anything, they should
Adam K: be going even harder than that.
Adam K: And just being like that is your freedom as an American.
Adam K: If to be against that, to be, you know, to get in the way of
Adam K: how someone wants to live their life, like you might as well
Adam K: start, you know, just closing up all the churches.
Adam K: Do you want to do that?
Adam K: Because it's right now the messaging.
Adam K: So like, that's like winning
Adam K: people over is just like
Adam K: authoritarian.
Adam K: Like we want to take the ability for people to do stuff away.
Adam K: And it's just like, look, as
Adam K: long as you're not hurting
Adam K: anybody.
Adam K: And I know they, they scream the
Adam K: most asinine, made up shit in
Adam K: the world.
Adam K: And so you can't really prove
Adam K: like, well, yeah, no one's there
Adam K: are not transgender people
Adam K: following children into the
Adam K: bathroom.
Aaron: I
Adam K: I'm sorry.
Aaron: don't
Adam K: That's
Aaron: care.
Adam K: not
Aaron: I
Adam K: happening.
Aaron: don't care what gender
Adam K: Yeah.
Aaron: they are.
Aaron: Can they throw the pigskin?
Adam K: Yes.
Aaron: Can they throw the pigskin one hundred and fifty yards
Adam K: Again.
Aaron: and.
Adam K: Shouldn't matter.
Adam K: None of this should matter.
Adam K: Like you.
Adam K: Let's let's call that out for what it is.
Adam K: It's theatrical, you know, emotional bullshit.
Adam K: But then you're trying to, I
Adam K: don't know, trying to appeal to
Adam K: people who are emotional and
Adam K: are, you know, gravitate towards
Adam K: bullshit.
Adam K: So I don't know what to do in
Adam K: that situation other than just
Adam K: be funny and make fun of
Adam K: everything.
Aaron: Well, George Ferry lives in Denton, Texas, which is like if
Aaron: Austin had any of its balls still left from the seventies,
Aaron: eighties and nineties.
Aaron: It's like they've hiked up into
Aaron: Denton and it's a weird place,
Aaron: full of fun, weirdness And
Aaron: George Ferry, if he's how I
Aaron: remember him, even just like ten
Aaron: or fifteen years ago, I think
Aaron: he's going to go like hard into
Aaron: like not giving a shit about,
Aaron: you know, saying it like it is
Aaron: and actually fighting for
Aaron: changes.
Aaron: And, you know, I'm going to message, I'm message him.
Adam K: Okay. Good. Do that.
Adam K: Is he going to be like a Budapest for the rest of us?
Aaron: It's like Budapest, but you know, and maybe Budapest is like
Aaron: exactly what you need right now.
Aaron: Because if Budapest is, is palatable gay, I think for the
Aaron: majority of the US, you know.
Adam K: I think that's the problem is you're not.
Adam K: People are so bigoted.
Aaron: I, I get it, I get it.
Aaron: But he went he served in Iraq.
Aaron: He's like, you know, he's a, he's a handsome dude with, you
Aaron: know, a handsome husband.
Aaron: And, you know, they, they seem
Aaron: like all American and just, just
Aaron: barely gay.
Aaron: Like I said, palatable gay for someone.
Aaron: I could see one of my relatives being like, well, you know, I
Aaron: don't agree with his lifestyle, but he does say some good
Aaron: things, you know, like, like I,
Adam K: Yeah.
Aaron: I, I wouldn't choose that lifestyle, but.
Adam K: The thing is, I think you need you need, like, Budapest needs
Adam K: to be more like a trump.
Adam K: He needs to be so in your face.
Adam K: Like, I mean, again, I respect whatever anyone wants to do in
Adam K: their personal life, but for the theatrics, for it all, for the
Adam K: for what political theater has become like, he needs to be like
Adam K: a contestant on, you know, RuPaul's Drag Race.
Adam K: Like,
Aaron: No, I know, but that's
Adam K: yeah,
Aaron: not him.
Aaron: He's
Adam K: I
Aaron: a vice president.
Adam K: know he's, he's
Aaron: Yeah.
Adam K: too political.
Adam K: He's a vice president.
Adam K: Yes,
Aaron: he's
Adam K: he
Aaron: a vice
Adam K: would
Aaron: president.
Adam K: be.
Adam K: Yeah. Um, it sounds like you need your buddy who's like.
Adam K: Like you need Tiger King, basically.
Aaron: Yeah. Well, see, okay, Tiger King would be in the.
Aaron: He'd be like Mary Carey and all
Aaron: them during the California
Aaron: governor race, like he's in the
Aaron: mix.
Aaron: But
Adam K: Mhm.
Aaron: just to bring attention to the this lunacy.
Adam K: I'm not saying it can't be him because he.
Adam K: He comes with too much baggage,
Aaron: Oh,
Adam K: and I think
Aaron: yeah.
Adam K: he might still be in jail.
Adam K: Um, and he's going to get too distracted.
Adam K: Like you need someone who is
Adam K: politically aligned with the
Adam K: people.
Adam K: Like you actually have a plan or, you know, you basically need
Adam K: to have like the swagger of like a Madani mom dummy and
Aaron: Mom. Mom.
Adam K: then
Aaron: Donna.
Adam K: mom dummy.
Adam K: But then, um, lifestyle wise is just like, just, just be again,
Adam K: be for go really hard in that direction of like, why are you
Adam K: getting upset with what other people are doing.
Adam K: What does that say about you?
Adam K: Why does it upset you that you
Adam K: see a gay couple walking down
Adam K: the street, two guys holding
Adam K: hands?
Adam K: Why does that bother you?
Adam K: What
Aaron: Really
Adam K: does that say about
Aaron: that's
Adam K: you?
Aaron: that's what that's pretty much
Adam K: Attack
Aaron: what like
Adam K: them.
Adam K: Attack people?
Aaron: that's like what AOC and, and them do, like that's kind of
Aaron: their, their deal.
Aaron: And like,
Adam K: Yeah,
Aaron: if
Adam K: I
Aaron: AOC
Adam K: mean.
Aaron: wasn't a woman, I think more people in the US would vote for.
Adam K: That's a that's a whole other problem.
Adam K: No. So what you do is because you go so hard, you just
Adam K: basically like, you get to the underlying issue, you're
Aaron: Right.
Adam K: like, listen.
Aaron: You get to the mayor of like, okay, what, what rights was the
Aaron: South fighting for?
Aaron: You know, like it's
Adam K: Well,
Aaron: that kind
Adam K: you
Aaron: of
Adam K: say
Aaron: thing.
Adam K: stuff like, okay, you're, you're
Adam K: really upset with someone else's
Adam K: lifestyle.
Adam K: That's probably because your life is so fucked up.
Adam K: You need to be mad about something
Aaron: Where your
Adam K: else.
Aaron: life is so boring that.
Adam K: Yeah. Or you need to have more excitement in your life.
Adam K: You need to go on more
Adam K: vacations, go experience the
Adam K: world.
Adam K: Like go, do you know, get
Aaron: Yeah. Poke
Adam K: outside
Aaron: the hornet's
Adam K: of your
Aaron: nest,
Adam K: yeah,
Aaron: you know?
Adam K: like like, yeah.
Adam K: Just basically saying like,
Adam K: look, you're probably this way
Adam K: because your quality of life
Adam K: hasn't changed much and you're
Adam K: not really experiencing like
Adam K: there's a lot of great stuff out
Adam K: there.
Adam K: I'm not saying you have to like be kumbaya and love every
Adam K: everybody, but it's like, hey, I want to, I want you to be more
Adam K: focused on your life, less on other people's lives.
Adam K: Like that's none of your business.
Adam K: Like, and it shouldn't be
Adam K: really, you should be out on
Adam K: your jet ski doing your own
Adam K: thing.
Adam K: Man, that that's what you do.
Adam K: You, you, you sing to people's
Adam K: want and desire to be the, the
Adam K: fucking main character of this
Adam K: story.
Aaron: See, I think you do want to make these types of videos.
Aaron: I think you could do it.
Adam K: If
Aaron: Look at
Adam K: that.
Aaron: you getting fired up.
Aaron: I haven't heard you passionate about something.
Aaron: And, uh, who's president now?
Aaron: Yeah, it's been it's been a long
Adam K: Depends
Aaron: time.
Adam K: who you ask.
Aaron: Yeah.
Adam K: It's like, who's, who's the,
Adam K: who's the, uh, the Illuminati
Adam K: person, which we now know is
Adam K: real.
Aaron: Mhm.
Adam K: Uh, they just stopped caring about showing their face.
Adam K: The problem is when you know, when you say less, they're more
Adam K: mysterious and cool.
Adam K: But then Elon Musk starts talking.
Adam K: You're like, oh, he he's an idiot.
Adam K: And he requires the love of
Adam K: people he wants no business
Adam K: interacting with.
Adam K: And then you get like the Peter Thiel types who now just want to
Adam K: automate the world so that he can finally be alone and be and
Adam K: hate himself for everything that he is anyway.
Adam K: Okay.
Adam K: I'm in.
Aaron: Yeah.
Adam K: Count me in.
Adam K: But you started this off by saying you're going to leave me
Adam K: in a ditch, so.
Aaron: Oh, yeah.
Aaron: I forgot about it.
Aaron: Yeah.
Aaron: Okay.
Aaron: Well, I'm back to that plan.
Aaron: No,
Adam K: Okay,
Aaron: no, you convinced me that
Adam K: okay.
Aaron: was that was a test, actually, to see if you wanted it.
Adam K: That's good.
Adam K: I usually don't do well on tests.
Aaron: Yeah, well, I didn't tell you it
Aaron: was a test, so you would do
Aaron: better.
Adam K: Last test I took, uh, was
Adam K: California trying to prove to me
Adam K: that I'm not good enough to ride
Adam K: a motorcycle?
Aaron: Oh, yeah.
Adam K: Yeah.
Aaron: Well, that's all solved then.
Aaron: um.
Adam K: Okay. That's good.
Adam K: Yeah. Um, maybe.
Adam K: Maybe politics is like the last
Adam K: fun place to make anything just
Adam K: because entertainment's getting
Adam K: so.
Adam K: I don't know what you even call it.
Adam K: It's just.
Adam K: It's all very milquetoast.
Adam K: It's all very samey.
Aaron: When there's no stakes in
Adam K: Yeah.
Aaron: entertainment, like you
Adam K: That's true.
Aaron: watch a CGI spider walking around and stuff.
Aaron: And yes,
Adam K: He swings.
Aaron: it did make eight thousand billion dollars.
Aaron: However,
Adam K: Yeah.
Aaron: is it going to get a Texas City
Aaron: Council person further in their
Aaron: career?
Aaron: I don't think so.
Adam K: No, I'm.
Adam K: I'm all for entertainment.
Adam K: Just doing entertainment things.
Adam K: But I'm with you there where, you know, having worked on
Adam K: YouTube and stuff for years, there's so many times where this
Adam K: is this conflict of two worlds.
Adam K: Like I remember, you know,
Adam K: working on a comedy channel, a
Adam K: video game comedy channel, and
Adam K: then The the head of the content
Adam K: or whatever comes in is like,
Adam K: you know, we should really say
Adam K: something about Black Lives
Adam K: Matter and we're all white
Adam K: people like, yes, we should say
Adam K: something.
Adam K: We should use our platform for good.
Adam K: And people are like, we just want the tampon jokes.
Adam K: So I think again, it's, it's back to the Tiger King thing.
Adam K: It's like, no, your platform.
Adam K: So if you have no platform,
Aaron: Do
Adam K: you
Aaron: you remember when
Adam K: can
Aaron: there was a children's
Adam K: do
Aaron: book
Adam K: it,
Aaron: club and
Adam K: I
Aaron: a c
Adam K: do.
Aaron: e o and they were trying to to figure out what to say?
Aaron: And one of the people who worked there was like, oh, what if we
Aaron: just said like, uh, our stance was like, all lives matter.
Aaron: And I immediately got on the phone to the CEO and I was like,
Aaron: you need to not let this person speak to anyone.
Adam K: I, I wish you had let it happen.
Aaron: I know
Adam K: I wish
Aaron: it.
Adam K: you would have said, I've never heard that before.
Adam K: You should say that.
Adam K: You're right.
Adam K: All lives do matter.
Aaron: Here's the and here's the issue.
Aaron: Here's why I didn't.
Aaron: It was purely selfish reasons because I knew that once the
Aaron: backlash happened and ninety five percent of the people quit
Aaron: their subscriptions, and it was only the five percent of Maga
Aaron: who reads kept theirs, I would be out of a job.
Aaron: And, uh, they paid me pretty
Aaron: well, so I, I, it was all
Aaron: selfish.
Aaron: Otherwise I would have
Adam K: That's
Aaron: been
Adam K: fair.
Aaron: like, you know,
Adam K: Yeah.
Aaron: that's really interesting because it's very that's what
Aaron: Buddha would have said.
Aaron: But, you know.
Adam K: There was.
Adam K: I remember there was like rooster teeth.
Adam K: I remember they had like a Cards
Adam K: Against Humanity knock off
Adam K: thing, and they had it on the
Adam K: Amazon store.
Adam K: And some like new executive guy
Adam K: was like, I need everyone with
Adam K: an Amazon account to get in
Adam K: there and start putting in
Adam K: positive
Aaron: I remember
Adam K: feedback.
Aaron: this.
Adam K: And it was like Bernie or
Adam K: someone walked like, don't do
Adam K: this.
Aaron: No,
Adam K: And
Aaron: it was
Adam K: then,
Aaron: me.
Adam K: oh, it was, you
Aaron: Do you remember that?
Adam K: know,
Aaron: Yeah, I remember
Adam K: oh.
Aaron: it was, uh, I won't say his
Adam K: Stop
Aaron: name,
Adam K: saving
Aaron: but
Adam K: the day.
Aaron: but the president, I replied, it was like five hundred people.
Aaron: And I said, please, no one do this.
Aaron: This
Adam K: Yeah.
Aaron: is not a. That wasn't Bernie.
Aaron: That was me and I. Oh, man.
Adam K: That's
Aaron: Didn't
Adam K: probably before I knew you, so I just
Aaron: know
Adam K: I
Aaron: you knew me.
Adam K: was like someone, someone who is Texas replied to this.
Aaron: Now you you, uh, we would have
Aaron: known each other by that point,
Aaron: and I
Adam K: Did
Aaron: think
Adam K: we?
Aaron: I think Bernie may have hopped
Aaron: on after I sent that message,
Aaron: but
Adam K: Okay.
Aaron: yeah, he might have finally
Aaron: gotten the balls after someone
Aaron: else said.
Aaron: But yeah, I replied to that and I was like, do not do this.
Aaron: This is such a, this will hurt
Aaron: our credibility and blah, blah,
Aaron: blah.
Adam K: Yeah.
Aaron: And they never said anything to me about that.
Aaron: But, you know, it makes sense.
Aaron: A little later, maybe
Adam K: Well,
Aaron: they.
Adam K: they they said, who is this guy getting in the way of greatness?
Aaron: Well.
Adam K: We could we could have had
Adam K: twenty positive reviews on this
Adam K: thing.
Aaron: It wasn't like, who is this guy?
Aaron: They they all knew.
Aaron: It's not like they know.
Aaron: They knew who I was,
Adam K: That's fair.
Aaron: And they didn't say anything to me.
Aaron: They just quietly kept it to themselves until it was time.
Adam K: Yeah,
Aaron: It was time to use it.
Adam K: man. So I think I told you I was
Adam K: messing with that thing over the
Adam K: weekend.
Adam K: Pangram.
Aaron: Yeah.
Adam K: So I was listening to podcast is the New York Times tech podcast,
Adam K: and they were interviewing the guy who started this thing.
Adam K: And so I wanted to test it.
Adam K: I'm like, I don't know, it's, it's just it's more AI scanning.
Adam K: It's just another AI tool.
Adam K: So it's an AI tool that scans, uh, written words to see how
Adam K: much of it's written by AI.
Adam K: But it's like they're saying how like people have false positives
Aaron: Yeah.
Adam K: or like it, it needs work.
Adam K: But, um, yeah, I was just, I was
Adam K: getting annoyed because I saw
Adam K: some Reddit thread where someone
Adam K: just like they just made an icon
Adam K: that said no AI and people were
Adam K: like, love this, this is so
Adam K: great.
Adam K: And so, and I'm like, so that's all it takes.
Adam K: You just need to like put a watermark on something.
Adam K: You could totally be lying and saying you're using AI.
Adam K: And then also at the same time too, it's like everything kind
Adam K: of uses AI right now not to like Hammer this home.
Adam K: It's just this annoying thing
Adam K: where I'm like watching
Adam K: technology advance and it's
Adam K: like, okay, well, AI is and
Adam K: everything.
Adam K: It's all anyone ever talks about.
Adam K: I'm talking about it right now.
Adam K: I'm tired of talking about it.
Adam K: But then I saw this video come
Adam K: up and it's like this fern
Adam K: knockoff.
Adam K: And the first thing it comes up, it says, no AI used in this or
Adam K: anything like that.
Adam K: I was like, okay.
Adam K: And I look at it, I'm like,
Adam K: yeah, it's some basic like
Adam K: blender, slow motion moving
Adam K: stuff, some polygon polygon
Adam K: characters, whatever, like
Adam K: probably just pulled assets from
Adam K: thingiverse or something like
Adam K: that, which is also another like
Adam K: really made by humans, I don't
Adam K: know, whatever.
Adam K: Um, but then the motion
Adam K: graphics, I'm like, that's
Adam K: totally Claude I those are
Adam K: Claude graphics.
Adam K: And then I copied his
Adam K: transcript, put it in Pangram
Adam K: just like one hundred percent AI
Adam K: like,
Aaron: MM.
Adam K: and then like you look at it and because all the comments are
Adam K: like, dude, so cool.
Adam K: You don't use AI in this.
Adam K: And the guy's replying like, you got it.
Adam K: And I'm like, but you're, you probably are using it.
Adam K: And also this channel didn't start until like two years ago,
Aaron: MM.
Adam K: around the time LM started
Adam K: getting pretty good, like
Adam K: research wise that you could
Adam K: just be like, hey, make a video
Adam K: about this.
Adam K: And like, I don't know, I
Aaron: What
Adam K: don't want
Aaron: was
Adam K: to
Aaron: it
Adam K: call
Aaron: about
Adam K: the guy
Aaron: the
Adam K: out
Aaron: cloud
Adam K: because.
Aaron: graphics that made it seem like Claude?
Adam K: Um, there's something about the, so it puts in random text.
Adam K: I've noticed with motion graphics, it'll just so like the
Adam K: guy did like these, like, like a dossier of these, like, uh,
Adam K: these criminals or whatever.
Adam K: And it just had random texts on the bottom.
Adam K: And then it did it again in the second dossier.
Adam K: And I was like, that's weird.
Adam K: Okay.
Adam K: And then it also has these weird kind of blinking graphics and
Adam K: sort of the monospace styling.
Adam K: Like it had this like little red
Adam K: dot that kept animating in and
Adam K: out.
Adam K: I'm like, it's done this for me, like
Aaron: Yeah.
Adam K: messing with Claude.
Adam K: And so, yeah, I was telling you over the weekend where I'm just
Adam K: like, yeah, I think what's going to happen is people are just
Adam K: going to start saying, no AI used in this.
Adam K: And all the anti AI people claim not to use AI so they won't know
Adam K: how to spot it.
Adam K: And it's only getting better.
Adam K: And so people's like understanding of like where like
Adam K: these AI tools is sort of like antiquated and stuff from like
Adam K: two to three years ago.
Aaron: Yeah.
Adam K: So I'm like, I guarantee you that's what that's going to be
Adam K: the new thing.
Adam K: But it's basically just that little like recycle logo on
Adam K: something just makes you feel good about yourself.
Adam K: Like, oh, thank God, no AI.
Adam K: And it's like, okay, but I don't
Adam K: know how many, how many burgers
Adam K: did this guy eat and how many,
Adam K: how many clothes did he order
Adam K: from Sheen?
Adam K: And then also the servers to run this thing.
Adam K: YouTube is also at a data center.
Adam K: So you're putting up my brain.
Adam K: So anyway, I
Aaron: I
Adam K: don't
Aaron: did.
Adam K: know what to be mad at anymore.
Aaron: I did like what you said.
Aaron: It's like you you need to use it to understand how good it is and
Aaron: to spot these things.
Aaron: Like, and it's interesting how
Aaron: you then can spot the
Aaron: differences between the
Aaron: different models and how they
Aaron: output things.
Aaron: And then you can spot like, oh,
Aaron: this is an older model because
Aaron: of, you know, it's, it isn't a
Aaron: sharp prose wise, etc. it uses
Aaron: the similar patterns that, you
Aaron: know, whatever.
Aaron: But yeah, the, the antiquated,
Aaron: like there's six fingers on this
Aaron: hand.
Aaron: It's like, that's not even a thing anymore.
Aaron: It's,
Adam K: Yeah.
Aaron: there's a incalculable like, oh, there's deadness to the eyes.
Aaron: Well, how do
Adam K: Mhm.
Aaron: you, how do you teach that?
Aaron: Well, you have to look at two
Aaron: different photos and get, you
Aaron: know, there's certain pattern
Aaron: things.
Aaron: There's then that becomes even more ambiguous.
Aaron: It's like, okay, how were they filming this shot like
Adam K: Mhm.
Aaron: this, you know, handheld phone shot.
Aaron: Like who was standing there?
Aaron: You know, why were they doing that?
Aaron: And it becomes even more existential.
Adam K: Yeah. I saw something like yesterday or something.
Adam K: It's like people would like AI a
Adam K: lot more if it just cured
Adam K: cancer.
Aaron: Yeah.
Adam K: All. All else would be forgiven.
Adam K: But again, too, I'm like, I'm in this state of like, this is
Adam K: moving so quickly and it's so many people are using it.
Adam K: I don't know if you saw like the director of Supergirl was like,
Adam K: I think using like ChatGPT image or something to like make Jason
Adam K: Momoa look like a, you know, space biker dude.
Adam K: And it was in the behind the scenes and people called it out.
Adam K: And so they just took the video
Adam K: down and it's like, yeah, you
Adam K: know, it's being used by
Adam K: everybody.
Adam K: And it has a, it has a stink attached to it.
Adam K: So people aren't going to, you know, early on, people were
Adam K: pretty, you know, hot on it.
Adam K: But, um, now it's got such a negative reaction.
Adam K: My, my theory though, is it's just going to become invisible
Adam K: pretty soon, like within the next couple of years.
Adam K: Right.
Adam K: Um, it's just going to be the new autotune.
Adam K: That's my, my theory.
Aaron: Yeah. And like Auto-Tune, Cher
Aaron: was the first to use AI and
Aaron: Claude.
Aaron: Um, no.
Adam K: She
Aaron: Uh.
Adam K: read a. She read a like a a review on.
Aaron: I just love using Claude Coke because I can write lyrics that,
Aaron: like, remind me of old Cher.
Aaron: That's how she sounds.
Adam K: That's
Aaron: I
Adam K: a
Aaron: got
Adam K: good one.
Aaron: to use my Cher and my Carvell.
Aaron: Damn.
Aaron: Bringing out all the hits.
Aaron: I think, uh, the AI curing cancer thing, like, it just
Aaron: needs to cure cancer.
Aaron: It's like a nuclear bomb stopped World War two.
Aaron: I don't know if if that justified
Adam K: So
Aaron: its
Adam K: you're saying
Aaron: existence.
Adam K: a virus is probably the better solution?
Aaron: Yeah.
Adam K: Uh, I'm reading this book right now.
Adam K: Postmortal or the Postmortal.
Aaron: Mhm.
Adam K: Uh, um, it's a, it came out in like twenty eleven.
Adam K: Uh, it's really good.
Adam K: Really enjoying it.
Adam K: It's, it takes place in the future where they solve aging.
Adam K: So basically, people are vampires, essentially.
Adam K: Um, but it, it goes into like
Adam K: sort of the real world
Adam K: implications of what happens
Adam K: when people don't die of natural
Adam K: causes anymore.
Adam K: Like some people still die.
Adam K: You can still get cancer.
Adam K: Um,
Aaron: Just be killed.
Adam K: you can be killed.
Adam K: Absolutely.
Adam K: People are like, you know, their
Adam K: organs are definitely harvested,
Adam K: but like water becomes a very
Adam K: scarce resource.
Adam K: Uh, the power grids constantly going down, um, it just becomes
Adam K: a dystopian hellscape.
Adam K: And then at some point, I don't know if it's a huge spoiler, but
Adam K: China just nukes itself because it has too many citizens.
Aaron: Mhm.
Adam K: And I was like, Jesus Christ, um, fun book though.
Adam K: I'm, I'm very much, uh, getting a kick out of it.
Aaron: Well, I'm reading White Noise by
Aaron: Don DeLillo, and, uh, it's
Aaron: nothing like that at all in any
Aaron: way.
Adam K: Okay,
Aaron: So
Adam K: I
Aaron: it's
Adam K: would.
Aaron: a.
Adam K: I mean, if it was, I would I think, you know, some plagiarism
Adam K: would be going on, especially if it was like the exact same plot.
Aaron: No. I've I've just read a scene where one of the kind of
Aaron: frenemies of the main character sees him in a grocery store and
Aaron: starts taking his objects out of his cart and sniffing them one
Aaron: by one and commenting on them.
Aaron: That's the kind of book I'm reading right now.
Adam K: Zen and the art of sniffing shit out of your trunk.
Aaron: Mhm.
Adam K: Man. Well, I know you got to go.
Adam K: And we didn't.
Adam K: I guess we're we're pivoting
Adam K: again to politics, so that's
Adam K: cool.
Aaron: Yeah. I basically said what I needed to say about
Adam K: Okay.
Aaron: my new direction.
Adam K: That's fun.
Adam K: Hope your hands.
Adam K: Okay.
Aaron: Uh, it actually is.
Aaron: It's, uh, it's kind of weird.
Aaron: It kept as it filled with more and more scat because it was
Aaron: like, you gotta imagine, like it was this huge deep valley in my
Aaron: hand, and it just kept getting like more and more silt on it.
Aaron: To try
Adam K: MM.
Aaron: and get to the top of the the ledge of the canyon and, uh, not
Aaron: helped by the fact that I kept ripping it open by accident,
Aaron: doing stupid things like
Adam K: MM.
Aaron: existing and getting out of bed and stuff.
Aaron: But now it's completely, uh, scabbed and I can move my hand
Aaron: and twist and do all sorts of things and it doesn't rip open.
Adam K: Wow. You're
Aaron: Yeah,
Adam K: like a regular gorilla.
Aaron: yeah. And I'm gonna take Riggs
Aaron: to the dog park today and see
Aaron: what other fights we can get
Aaron: into.
Adam K: I was gonna say, are you in
Adam K: that, like that, uh, canine
Adam K: training armor?
Adam K: Just walking around in a big padded suit.
Aaron: Now, what was funny is last
Aaron: Friday, we went to the dog park
Aaron: again.
Aaron: And I swear to God, there was this.
Aaron: There was this lady she had, like, meth face and these
Aaron: enormous, uh, fake breasts that were out, like they were barely
Aaron: held in, uh, in her top, like they were exposed.
Aaron: And, uh, she was driving this Range Rover and she had five
Aaron: dogs, and four of the dogs were fine, but one of them's like
Aaron: this, like puppy ish type dog, but it was bigger and and like a
Aaron: year and a half old.
Aaron: And it was just going after Riggs, like aggressively.
Aaron: And then I told this lady, I was like, you gotta get your dog.
Aaron: You gotta do something about this.
Aaron: You know, he just got attacked a week ago.
Aaron: Like, he can't do this.
Aaron: And she's like, I'll get him.
Aaron: I'll get him.
Aaron: And then she went to the other
Aaron: side of the dog park with him on
Aaron: a leash and was there for like
Aaron: ten minutes.
Aaron: As soon as she let him off, he
Aaron: bolted Riggs and ran into him
Aaron: like, like, you know, chest
Aaron: bumped him and Riggs was like,
Aaron: fuck you.
Aaron: And like, snapped at the dog.
Aaron: And the dog was like, pounced on top of him.
Aaron: I grabbed that dog by the scruff and threw it and it came back
Aaron: for more, and I, I was already reeling my fist back to punch it
Aaron: in the face, and the lady was like, I'll get him, I'll get
Aaron: him, I'll get him.
Aaron: And then she grabbed her dog and and her tits and left.
Aaron: And I
Adam K: Cool.
Aaron: was like, God dang, man, what is good?
Aaron: You know, and I want to say it could possibly be riggs's
Aaron: masculine scent that's doing this, but I think it's easier
Aaron: just to blame everyone else.
Adam K: Yeah. I mean, you sound like the parental figures in my life.
Adam K: Who would blame me for the
Adam K: beatings I would get of, like,
Adam K: you just look like you're asking
Adam K: for it.
Aaron: Yeah.
Adam K: Something about your face and your your beady little Irish
Aaron: Well, Riggs
Adam K: eyes.
Aaron: was playing it cool, but this dog is just getting in his.
Aaron: Like, literally getting in his face.
Aaron: And then.
Aaron: And then bully pushed him, you know what's
Adam K: Yeah.
Aaron: what's a husky to do, man?
Adam K: I don't know.
Adam K: Uh, have you been aggressively been getting hacked recently?
Aaron: Huh?
Aaron: By who?
Adam K: I feel like something's going on.
Adam K: I, so I have the, the Microsoft like authenticator or
Aaron: Yeah.
Adam K: whatever.
Adam K: And the way it works is someone tries to log in with your
Adam K: credentials and then it's like, was this you?
Adam K: um, approve it and then type in the number that pops up like on
Adam K: your screen or whatever.
Adam K: And no joke, like every ten minutes
Aaron: Huh?
Adam K: for the past like two weeks.
Adam K: And it's like, it's obviously it's someone using a VPN or it's
Adam K: bots or whatever.
Adam K: It's coming from random places.
Adam K: So I just have to change my
Adam K: email and it has now since
Adam K: stopped.
Aaron: Wow.
Adam K: I was like, Christ Almighty,
Aaron: I got
Adam K: like.
Aaron: some what's.
Aaron: I've been getting some.
Aaron: What's up?
Aaron: Span.
Aaron: What's up, what's up?
Adam K: What's
Aaron: Bombs.
Adam K: what's up spam.
Aaron: Uh, it's just a a lady in army fatigues named Benita Gomez.
Aaron: And she said hello.
Aaron: And WhatsApp tells me it's a number from Nigeria, a business
Aaron: account from Nigeria.
Aaron: I'm like, mm, I don't think I know this lady.
Aaron: Um.
Adam K: It's just, it's been, it feels
Adam K: like it's just more aggressive
Adam K: right now.
Adam K: But there's the theory right now that it's, it's right now it's
Adam K: fifty fifty bots and humans
Aaron: MM.
Adam K: and give it a couple more years,
Adam K: it's gonna be ninety percent
Adam K: bots.
Adam K: So it's just getting it's
Adam K: getting wild, getting aggressive
Adam K: out there.
Adam K: I don't care for it.
Aaron: Well then do you send your own bot to to counter their bots?
Aaron: I don't.
Aaron: I don't even
Adam K: I don't
Aaron: know.
Adam K: have a bot, I guess I should, but I don't know who to counter.
Adam K: I don't know, it's just I don't, I don't have the infrastructure.
Adam K: I'm, I'm fucking around with minimax too much.
Adam K: I'm, I'm
Aaron: Yeah.
Adam K: more in the video world.
Adam K: The fact that you can render pretty decent.
Adam K: Seven twenty P video in under five minutes is pretty wild
Aaron: Yeah.
Adam K: anyway.
Aaron: Cut. Cut
Adam K: Well.
Aaron: to six months from now.
Aaron: Yeah. It's pretty crazy.
Aaron: 4K video, two minutes long and
Adam K: Yeah, I could do this on my phone.
Aaron: yeah.
Adam K: Anyway, that's where we're at.
Adam K: I'm gonna go buy some more credits.
Adam K: I don't have a problem.
Adam K: You have a problem?
Aaron: Yeah. I gotta prep for this thing.
Aaron: I'll tell you about it later.
Adam K: That's fine.
Adam K: No AI was used in this podcast, except I'm pretty sure Adobe
Adam K: does some sort of filtering, masking, cleaning up.
Adam K: So I'll just claim ignorance.
Aaron: We.
Adam K: I don't know.
Aaron: Well,
Adam K: What things
Aaron: I,
Adam K: do.
Aaron: we, we don't, we don't care about AI.
Aaron: We're not going to read your AI.
Aaron: We want to read your record.
Aaron: We want to know if you throw the
Aaron: pigskin, we don't care about
Aaron: about your agenda, about your
Aaron: AI.
Aaron: We want to know, can you throw a
Aaron: football and can you read the
Aaron: record?
Adam K: I know.
Adam K: Cajuns not supposed to be offensive, but it just sounds
Adam K: like it is
Aaron: I
Adam K: like
Aaron: know.
Adam K: I should be offended on someone's behalf
Aaron: Uh, because
Adam K: and
Aaron: you just
Adam K: then go.
Aaron: you're either being taught by
Aaron: one of the greatest political
Aaron: consultants of all time, or a
Aaron: guy who has a trailer with a
Aaron: barbecue pit on it that's
Aaron: slinging meat at you like it
Aaron: could.
Aaron: It's either one of those.
Adam K: Alligator meat's not as bad.
Adam K: It's just.
Adam K: It's like a salty chicken.
Aaron: Alligator
Adam K: Really?
Aaron: ate my dad.
Aaron: He ain't my dad.
Aaron: Alligator
Adam K: Good.
Aaron: came.
Aaron: And the thing I forgave the alligator, uh, was my pet for a
Aaron: number of years.
Aaron: And then after that, I turned him into a pair of boots.
Aaron: I still wear those boots today.
Adam K: Go to your meeting.
Aaron: Okay, bye.
Adam K: By.