September 1, 2026
S01:E27

September 1, 2026

Episode description

Golf ads, totally affordable Ferraris and the art of animation as told by two guys who have never animated anything in their lives.

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0:02

Adam K: You just let me know when you're all settled in.

0:05

Aaron: I'm ready.

0:06

Adam K: You're a hard man to get Ahold of.

0:09

Aaron: Oh, really?

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Aaron: I've been in the same place.

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Aaron: I've

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Adam K: Here.

0:12

Aaron: been waiting for you the last twenty four hours.

0:15

Adam K: Here

0:15

Aaron: Right here.

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Adam K: you are, off petting babies, hanging out with old friends.

0:23

Adam K: No time for this guy.

0:26

Aaron: Yeah, man.

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Aaron: You really you really make yourself sound unappealing to

0:31

Aaron: hang out with.

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Aaron: I'm kind of second guessing

0:33

Adam K: I'm.

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Aaron: this.

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Adam K: I'm trying to make myself more unappealing.

0:37

Adam K: The

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Aaron: I

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Adam K: problem

0:38

Aaron: think

0:38

Adam K: is, I'm too popular.

0:39

Aaron: I think your mic switched again to where you're not speaking

0:43

Aaron: into a microphone.

0:45

Adam K: That would make a lot of sense right now.

0:48

Adam K: Let me fix that.

0:51

Adam K: Yeah.

0:51

Adam K: Why would it use the Bluetooth headphones?

0:55

Adam K: It's set to the good one.

0:59

Adam K: Let me refresh.

1:01

Aaron: Doo doo doo doo

1:05

Adam K: I use

1:05

Aaron: doo.

1:05

Adam K: the, um, the fancy, uh, compression software stuff.

1:11

Adam K: And I, you know, I try to clean it up in post, but.

1:13

Aaron: Yeah. You're not going to be able to clean this up.

1:16

Adam K: There's always a chance.

1:18

Adam K: There we go.

1:19

Adam K: Okay.

1:20

Adam K: Check it out.

1:21

Adam K: I'm about to switch.

1:22

Aaron: Okay.

1:23

Adam K: How's that?

1:24

Aaron: Wow. It sounds like it should.

1:28

Adam K: Yeah. Um, so my my brother came

1:31

Adam K: over, dropped off some, uh, a

1:35

Adam K: saw that.

1:38

Adam K: Putting a new.

1:39

Aaron: What?

1:39

Aaron: Now it's switched again.

1:41

Adam K: Are you serious?

1:42

Aaron: Yep.

1:43

Adam K: That's aggressive.

1:45

Adam K: Well.

1:45

Aaron: Yeah.

1:47

Adam K: MM. Okay. Two seconds.

1:50

Adam K: Let me fix this.

1:55

Aaron: Now I'm remembering why we didn't talk yesterday.

2:08

Adam K: How's that?

2:10

Aaron: It's good.

2:10

Aaron: You want to just cut the first part of this off.

2:13

Adam K: I am capable of editing.

2:14

Adam K: You don't have to tell me to do

2:15

Adam K: it during the recording, but,

2:17

Adam K: um.

2:17

Aaron: Could you edit the the beginning off?

2:20

Adam K: No, no. You're

2:21

Aaron: I'll

2:21

Adam K: just.

2:21

Aaron: remind you in 30s.

2:23

Adam K: Yeah. Is that what it's like to be creative?

2:25

Adam K: You just tell other people what to do.

2:27

Aaron: Uh, for me it is.

2:29

Adam K: I know, I know.

2:33

Aaron: Oh,

2:33

Adam K: I've.

2:34

Aaron: funny thing, I had a, um.

2:37

Aaron: I had to write this, like, uh, I

2:40

Aaron: wrote this thought leadership

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Aaron: piece for someone else about

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Aaron: that.

2:43

Aaron: Did you see that?

2:45

Aaron: You probably didn't.

2:46

Aaron: There's this ad, um, for Callaway Golf or something made

2:50

Aaron: by good, good golf or I don't know, I don't follow golf, but

2:55

Aaron: apparently this ad was it was parodying obsession, that movie

3:02

Aaron: that I also didn't see.

3:03

Aaron: But what happened was, is they're trying to show how good

3:07

Aaron: this golf driver is.

3:09

Aaron: And this woman goes to like,

3:11

Aaron: pluck the driver out of the golf

3:13

Aaron: bag.

3:13

Aaron: And this guy runs over from across the green and shoves her

3:16

Aaron: to the ground.

3:17

Aaron: And,

3:17

Adam K: Jesus.

3:18

Aaron: and from a very low angle, it's looking up at him.

3:20

Aaron: And it said and he says, uh, don't you touch my driver or

3:24

Aaron: something like that.

3:25

Aaron: And then and then it goes for

3:27

Aaron: the rest of the poorly made

3:29

Aaron: thirty second AD, it's it's him

3:31

Aaron: being weird amongst guys and

3:33

Aaron: stuff too.

3:34

Aaron: But they singled out that clip.

3:36

Aaron: It's like two and a half seconds long of him shoving that woman

3:38

Aaron: to the ground and provided it's not it's not a good look in

3:43

Aaron: isolation, but it's just a bad ad in general.

3:47

Aaron: Like it's not a good parody.

3:48

Aaron: Like I didn't even see the movie.

3:50

Aaron: And I know it's not a good parody.

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Aaron: And it was shot on a camera

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Aaron: phone and it just looks like

3:55

Aaron: shit.

3:55

Aaron: And.

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Aaron: But everyone was up in arms about him.

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Aaron: The domestic violence that happened in it.

4:01

Aaron: And, um, so I wrote a little.

4:04

Aaron: I had to write a little thing on

4:05

Aaron: it and, uh, yeah, you know,

4:08

Aaron: they, they encountered, uh,

4:10

Aaron: technical difficulties just like

4:12

Aaron: you.

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Aaron: They probably had someone

4:14

Aaron: creatively yelling at them just

4:15

Aaron: like me.

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Aaron: And yet here they are, and

4:19

Aaron: they're getting their

4:20

Aaron: sponsorships pulled.

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Aaron: And to be honest, I didn't really look that much into it.

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Aaron: I'm not I don't know what Callaway Golf is, and I don't

4:27

Aaron: know who good, good golf is because I'm, uh, I don't play

4:31

Aaron: golf, but whatever.

4:36

Adam K: Hold

4:36

Aaron: Are you

4:36

Adam K: one

4:36

Aaron: there?

4:37

Adam K: second.

4:43

Aaron: Hello?

4:45

Adam K: One second.

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Aaron: Are you under arrest or something, or is the cops there?

5:03

Adam K: I think I figured out what the real issue was.

5:08

Aaron: Uh. Huh.

5:09

Adam K: Uh.

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Aaron: Do you need me to repeat my Callaway golf story?

5:12

Adam K: No. But it did make me think of my myself.

5:18

Adam K: I watched a lot of Rivian R2 videos this weekend because

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Adam K: someone had told me that Rivian is affordable and it is ish for

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Adam K: a new car.

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Adam K: If you wait for like, you know, the the basic one and it gets no

5:34

Adam K: range or anything like that, not going to buy it,

5:37

Aaron: Uh. Huh.

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Adam K: just generally looking, but not one, but two videos, two

5:41

Adam K: separate guys explaining how easy you can fit your golf clubs

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Adam K: in the front.

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Adam K: And that did more damage to me

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Adam K: being interested in the car than

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Adam K: anything else.

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Adam K: Well, then actually test driving it and then not wanting it.

5:53

Adam K: so.

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Aaron: That's a classic luxury car

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Aaron: thing, though, that's been going

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Aaron: on for like forty or fifty

5:58

Aaron: years.

5:59

Aaron: Like,

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Adam K: I get.

5:59

Aaron: can

6:00

Adam K: Yeah.

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Aaron: you fit a golf bag in the trunk?

6:03

Aaron: That's, that's like the trope.

6:05

Aaron: And if they weren't like

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Aaron: presenting it as a trope and

6:08

Aaron: tongue in cheek, then they're

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Aaron: just disconnected.

6:11

Aaron: But

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Adam K: Mhm.

6:12

Aaron: yeah.

6:13

Adam K: Which way did the the dead male escort legs go?

6:19

Aaron: Can you fit your toddler in the trunk?

6:24

Adam K: And can you put on that pet mode so people don't freak out and

6:29

Adam K: break your windows?

6:31

Aaron: The reason I wouldn't buy a

6:32

Aaron: Rivian is because the name

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Aaron: sounds like a female, uh, uh,

6:38

Aaron: improvement device.

6:40

Adam K: Say birth control.

6:42

Aaron: Uh, I mean, it's a, it's a sex toy.

6:45

Aaron: Rivian is like, it's a sex toy.

6:48

Aaron: That's just what it is.

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Aaron: It's

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Adam K: Mhm.

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Aaron: got twelve different vibration modes and it's self-cleaning.

6:56

Aaron: You know, like that's a Rivian.

6:57

Adam K: You are describing the car.

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Adam K: Um, it was weird because, you

7:02

Adam K: know me, I'm a very tech

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Adam K: focused, forward thinking

7:05

Adam K: person.

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Adam K: I like new technology as much as

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Adam K: I, you know, kind of make fun of

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Adam K: people for being proud of their

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Adam K: vehicles that are essentially

7:13

Adam K: just giant cell phones with

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Adam K: wheels.

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Adam K: I do like the, the nifty, like I

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Adam K: get excited about that sort of

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Adam K: stuff.

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Adam K: It was too much.

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Adam K: I've never actually driven like

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Adam K: an EV other than like, you know,

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Adam K: a friend's Tesla or whatever

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Adam K: once and then, but it's just so

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Adam K: overwhelming.

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Adam K: How much is on an iPad now?

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Adam K: Like it was just, it's, it's too much of a, like

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Aaron: It's

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Adam K: if you

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Aaron: dangerous.

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Adam K: want it is it's arguably more dangerous, like to adjust the

7:45

Adam K: mirrors, you have to pull over and stop, navigate

7:48

Aaron: Yeah.

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Adam K: through a menu, ensure you're selected on the right profile.

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Adam K: And I'm like, okay, this is too much in that direction.

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Adam K: Like, I

7:57

Aaron: Well,

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Adam K: don't

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Aaron: you

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Adam K: need all this

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Aaron: know,

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Adam K: crap.

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Aaron: I already I always say this, but like, you can always tell what's

8:02

Aaron: going to happen in like the, the people's cars by what's

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Aaron: happening in, in luxury and exotics and they're getting rid

8:10

Aaron: of all that shit in, you know, in the Ferrari world and other

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Aaron: and like bespoke cars and all the stuff they're putting back

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Aaron: in like switches and knobs and tactile things because the rich

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Aaron: are tired of that bullshit.

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Aaron: So it'll come back down to, you

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Aaron: know, the lower classes, the

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Aaron: scum class.

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Adam K: Yeah. I mean, like, it's the thing of we're in LA.

8:33

Adam K: Gas prices.

8:33

Aaron: Yeah.

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Adam K: Gas is insane here.

8:36

Aaron: Um.

8:36

Adam K: Doing the math.

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Adam K: It's probably like, okay, well,

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Adam K: probably getting up in arms over

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Adam K: something like we still have a

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Adam K: hybrid.

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Adam K: It's, it's okay, but it's

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Adam K: thinking long term and like,

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Adam K: okay, just kind of weighing the

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Adam K: options of.

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Adam K: It's one of those crappy things is you live in LA, you kind of

8:53

Adam K: have to have a car.

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Adam K: So it's like, get a rebate on it.

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Adam K: We'll see.

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Adam K: But it's, it's just too much of a cell phone.

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Adam K: It's too much of an iPad.

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Adam K: And, uh, you look at something

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Adam K: like we've talked about before,

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Adam K: but like that slate truck where

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Adam K: there's nothing in it, I'm like,

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Adam K: that's kind of more interesting

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Adam K: to me.

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Adam K: You know, something that my, you know, I can my solar panels will

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Adam K: charge and it only gets whatever, thirty five miles to a

9:19

Adam K: charger or whatever.

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Adam K: Um, anyway, I just wanted to let

9:23

Adam K: you know I'm, I bought some golf

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Adam K: bags and,

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Aaron: Yeah.

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Adam K: uh, I

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Aaron: You're gonna

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Adam K: think.

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Aaron: push down a woman as soon as she tries to grab you.

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Aaron: Driver.

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Adam K: That's the hope I sell.

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Adam K: I didn't finish obsession.

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Adam K: We started it.

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Adam K: Um, I didn't like the part with the dead cat.

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Adam K: That was upsetting.

9:40

Aaron: Well, don't spoil it.

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Aaron: I might watch that movie in twenty years on

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Adam K: I don't

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Aaron: an airplane.

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Adam K: I don't see that happening with you.

9:46

Aaron: No, I'm not going to.

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Aaron: It's

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Adam K: Yeah.

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Aaron: like you don't need to go into it, but it's about a woman with

9:52

Aaron: bipolar, uh, ness, right.

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Adam K: There's

9:55

Aaron: Or

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Adam K: magic

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Aaron: is that

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Adam K: involved.

9:57

Aaron: really?

9:58

Adam K: Yeah. That's that's how it

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Adam K: starts off is there's a guy

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Adam K: who's kind of not really in

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Adam K: Selly.

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Adam K: It's just typical, you know, young boy crushing on a girl.

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Adam K: And

10:10

Aaron: Yeah.

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Adam K: then, um, he makes a wish and he's like, I wish you would love

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Adam K: me more than anything else in the fucking world

10:16

Aaron: Oh, so there's magic.

10:17

Adam K: is

10:17

Aaron: Okay.

10:18

Adam K: magic.

10:18

Adam K: Yeah,

10:18

Aaron: I

10:18

Adam K: but,

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Aaron: thought

10:18

Adam K: I mean,

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Aaron: it was like

10:19

Adam K: it

10:19

Aaron: a.

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Adam K: could be an

10:20

Aaron: Yeah.

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Adam K: allegory, I guess, for bipolar disorder or something, but.

10:24

Aaron: I thought there was.

10:24

Aaron: Yeah. Legit.

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Aaron: Like bi.

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Aaron: She was bipolar.

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Aaron: And that's what was happening.

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Adam K: There

10:28

Aaron: Okay.

10:29

Adam K: might be a deeper meaning to the

10:30

Adam K: movie, but I was it was just

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Adam K: like, I don't know, I'll I'll

10:35

Adam K: give it another watch sometime

10:36

Adam K: when I'm, I'm in more of that

10:38

Adam K: mood.

10:39

Adam K: Um, but I wanted to watch something.

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Adam K: I don't know, I think I was already feeling down.

10:44

Adam K: I'm like, this isn't helping.

10:46

Aaron: Yeah.

10:47

Adam K: Let's watch the backrooms, see if that helps.

10:50

Aaron: Yeah. I don't, I don't need to I don't need to watch YouTube

10:53

Aaron: movies right now.

10:55

Aaron: But, um, I'm more concerned.

10:58

Aaron: I'm thinking about your Rivian

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Aaron: and car choices that you're

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Aaron: thinking about.

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Aaron: I think the solution might be this auction I'm looking at

11:06

Aaron: right now on bring a trailer.

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Aaron: It's a it's a nineteen eighty

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Aaron: six Ferrari three hundred twenty

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Aaron: eight GTS project that I think

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Aaron: if you put a couple grand into

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Aaron: it, you'd have, you'd be able to

11:19

Aaron: live out your Magnum P.I.

11:21

Aaron: fantasies and.

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Adam K: Um, yeah,

11:23

Aaron: Yeah.

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Adam K: I could.

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Adam K: So just take it to Hawaii and solve crimes.

11:29

Aaron: Well, you could solve crimes in

11:31

Aaron: LA and by solve crimes, uh,

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Aaron: solve the crime of who stole

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Aaron: your Ferrari three, twenty

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Aaron: eight,

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Adam K: I was,

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Aaron: ten

11:38

Adam K: I was,

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Aaron: hours after you've owned it.

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Adam K: I was listening to an interview

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Adam K: from a few weeks ago where they

11:42

Adam K: were talking to the flock CEO

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Adam K: and

11:45

Aaron: Mhm.

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Adam K: how the whole thing.

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Adam K: How he like accidentally essentially created Big Brother.

11:50

Adam K: And you hear him tell the story

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Adam K: and I'm like, I'm just trying to

11:52

Adam K: come at this from like a, you

11:54

Adam K: know, a just trying to go in

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Adam K: with an open mind of like, okay,

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Adam K: how did this guy get to where he

12:01

Adam K: is?

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Adam K: And he tells a story about how

12:03

Adam K: people were in his neighborhood

12:04

Adam K: breaking into people's cars and

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Adam K: stealing their guns, which is

12:06

Adam K: also like, why is there gun in a

12:07

Adam K: car?

12:08

Adam K: I don't know.

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Adam K: Regardless, it was like him and a buddy just kind of hobbled

12:14

Adam K: together, you know, um, some old Android phones and I guess like

12:20

Adam K: a Raspberry Pi or something and essentially created like a low

12:24

Adam K: budget, um, license plate reader because the cops told him the

12:28

Adam K: best way to catch someone is to get their license plate, which I

12:33

Adam K: relate to only because in my neighborhood, my neighbor to my

12:37

Adam K: right had their window busted in, and then my neighbor to the

12:39

Adam K: left got their window busted in and I was like, okay, it's only

12:41

Adam K: a matter of time.

12:42

Aaron: Mhm.

12:43

Adam K: Um, so like, it would be cool.

12:45

Adam K: And I looked into it and it's

12:46

Adam K: like a license plate reader for

12:50

Adam K: like in my mind to just

12:52

Adam K: thinking, okay, this is for the

12:53

Adam K: neighborhood.

12:53

Adam K: This is a ongoing thing.

12:55

Adam K: It would be cool to catch the person.

12:57

Adam K: There's no cops going to come by here and investigate

12:59

Aaron: Yeah.

12:59

Adam K: it. So it's like, okay, if we just, if it's someone driving by

13:02

Adam K: and breaking into people's cars and driving off.

13:04

Adam K: Yeah, get a license plate

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Adam K: reader, set it up, all that

13:06

Adam K: stuff.

13:06

Adam K: Those are like two thousand dollars cameras.

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Adam K: And I was just then I just gave up and went, yeah, whatever.

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Adam K: Just check to see if my insurance is up to date.

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Adam K: And I'm like, okay, that I'll just lay back and take it like

13:17

Adam K: the rest of society.

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Adam K: So like, part of me was I had

13:20

Adam K: some empathy for the guy of

13:23

Adam K: like, okay, I can see where this

13:23

Adam K: came from, but it appears to

13:25

Adam K: have gotten out of hand and now

13:29

Adam K: it's, uh, a stalker network and

13:32

Adam K: it has grown, uh, beyond his

13:36

Adam K: wildest dreams.

13:37

Adam K: And, uh, he has essentially created a big brother.

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Adam K: So yeah, um, Even the best intentions, I believe can, uh,

13:48

Adam K: can create devastation.

13:50

Aaron: Yeah, and you wouldn't need a scanner if you have this

13:54

Aaron: Ferrari, because your plates would obviously be Robin one and

13:57

Adam K: Mhm.

13:57

Aaron: you'd know what the plates were.

13:59

Aaron: Um, that's a that's a Magnum P.I. thing too.

14:03

Adam K: Okay.

14:03

Aaron: Uh, yeah, the, uh, I enjoy the flock CEO going around the, the

14:11

Aaron: media circuit being like, there needs to be compromised and

14:16

Adam K: It's,

14:16

Aaron: you can, you can see like

14:17

Adam K: uh.

14:18

Aaron: the valuations going down on his company in real time as

14:21

Adam K: Yeah.

14:21

Aaron: he's like, please, for the love of God.

14:24

Adam K: Yeah. It's that moment from Futurama.

14:26

Adam K: I don't remember where Fry's talking about how great the

14:29

Adam K: company is, and you can see the stock going down in real time.

14:32

Aaron: Mhm.

14:33

Adam K: It's like it's a people business.

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Adam K: Zero.

14:35

Adam K: Um,

14:35

Aaron: Yeah.

14:36

Adam K: yeah, it's one of those lessons

14:38

Adam K: where maybe less is more and

14:41

Adam K: realize that you've created a

14:43

Adam K: dystopian hellscape device that

14:47

Adam K: law enforcement and ex-husbands

14:49

Adam K: want.

14:52

Adam K: Very much so.

14:54

Adam K: Um, and

14:55

Aaron: And who can blame

14:56

Adam K: yeah.

14:56

Aaron: them?

14:57

Adam K: And lifeguards.

14:59

Adam K: Former lifeguards.

15:01

Aaron: Mhm.

15:01

Adam K: Yeah. It's a good time.

15:04

Adam K: Uh, yeah, they were also I forgot about that.

15:07

Adam K: That how this, this thing sort of initially kicked off was when

15:10

Adam K: they, they tracked someone going out of state for an abortion.

15:13

Aaron: Yeah.

15:14

Adam K: Yeah.

15:15

Aaron: That's, uh, was that in Florida or Texas, I don't know.

15:18

Adam K: I

15:18

Aaron: It's.

15:18

Adam K: want to say Texas.

15:19

Aaron: Or maybe it's Alabama.

15:20

Aaron: I don't know, it's.

15:21

Adam K: I think they went from Texas to Florida.

15:23

Adam K: And Florida said, sorry, we can't do it either.

15:26

Adam K: Uh, and then just, uh, put him on a boat to Cuba.

15:31

Aaron: Hold on.

15:32

Aaron: I gotta give someone edit access to a thing.

15:35

Aaron: Um.

15:36

Adam K: Why are you telling me to hold on?

15:39

Aaron: Let's see here.

15:40

Aaron: This is giving them added access

15:42

Aaron: to this Callaway Golf ad or golf

15:45

Aaron: thing.

15:48

Adam K: Can we fit them in the front?

15:50

Adam K: The frunk of a Rivian.

15:52

Adam K: Oh, I hate saying that.

15:55

Aaron: Yeah, man.

15:56

Aaron: I and I, it's just, you know what?

16:00

Aaron: I also think at the end of the

16:01

Aaron: day is that once this thing

16:04

Aaron: blows over, like I didn't know

16:06

Aaron: what good, good golf was

16:07

Aaron: beforehand.

16:09

Aaron: And because I don't, like I said, I don't golf, but the type

16:13

Aaron: of people who golf are not going to give two shits about domestic

16:18

Aaron: abuse in an ad and they're going to be like, wow, what's good?

16:21

Aaron: Good golf.

16:23

Aaron: You

16:23

Adam K: When

16:23

Aaron: know, it's good.

16:23

Adam K: they

16:23

Aaron: It's.

16:23

Adam K: sober up and watch that video.

16:26

Aaron: Well, it's going to be like some

16:27

Aaron: dude in his sixties who's

16:29

Aaron: looking for any edge he can on

16:31

Aaron: the links

16:32

Adam K: Um.

16:32

Aaron: and he'll see the woman get shoved and he'll be like, she

16:35

Aaron: must, she must have done something to deserve that.

16:38

Aaron: And then he'll

16:39

Adam K: He's.

16:39

Aaron: be then he'll be on their

16:40

Aaron: product page within five seconds

16:42

Aaron: like.

16:42

Adam K: He's probably trying to figure out which course they're on.

16:45

Aaron: Yeah. He's like, That's Augusta.

16:47

Aaron: I think that's beautiful.

16:49

Aaron: He's like pausing the video at the point where she's getting

16:51

Aaron: shoved down to see if he can identify any kind of bunkers or

16:55

Adam K: Yeah.

16:55

Aaron: anything.

16:56

Adam K: What kind of.

16:57

Adam K: What kind of grass is that?

16:58

Adam K: Is that.

16:59

Aaron: That's, I think that's Kentucky Blue, if I'm not

17:01

Adam K: Yeah.

17:02

Aaron: mistaken.

17:02

Adam K: Yeah. Edward,

17:04

Aaron: But

17:04

Adam K: get in here.

17:05

Adam K: Look at this.

17:05

Aaron: yeah, you see this grass that's

17:07

Aaron: wedged in this woman's ears and

17:10

Aaron: nose?

17:10

Aaron: Is that Kentucky bluegrass?

17:11

Aaron: I think it is.

17:13

Adam K: We should go there.

17:15

Adam K: Grab the

17:15

Aaron: Yeah.

17:15

Adam K: Rivian.

17:16

Aaron: Yeah.

17:16

Adam K: Uh, start

17:17

Aaron: So it's going

17:17

Adam K: her up.

17:17

Aaron: to end up great for everyone.

17:19

Aaron: Um, though the woman that got shoved down, I think, like crazy

17:24

Aaron: Maga types were threatening her.

17:27

Aaron: Yeah.

17:28

Aaron: Because they were like, what the fuck?

17:30

Aaron: Why can't you just take it?

17:32

Aaron: And, uh, yeah.

17:34

Aaron: And so then the people at I want

17:37

Aaron: to say again, I'm mixing them up

17:39

Aaron: because it's just a bunch of

17:40

Aaron: white dudes.

17:41

Aaron: But it's Callaway Golf and good, good golf.

17:43

Aaron: One of the one of the representatives was like, do

17:46

Aaron: not, do not threaten this woman.

17:49

Aaron: If you're going to threaten anyone, threaten me because I

17:52

Aaron: can take it, you know, like he,

17:54

Adam K: All

17:54

Aaron: he

17:54

Adam K: right.

17:55

Aaron: like he not only, uh, he, he minimized her while also trying

18:02

Aaron: to be chivalrous.

18:03

Aaron: It was pretty good.

18:03

Adam K: That's, uh, that's some classic white knighting right there.

18:06

Aaron: Yeah.

18:07

Adam K: Wow. And then they just harassed her even more.

18:10

Aaron: Yeah. It's like, why would you

18:11

Aaron: make him try and take

18:12

Aaron: responsibility?

18:14

Adam K: My head hurts.

18:15

Aaron: Yeah.

18:16

Adam K: Uh, well, I hope the thought leadership posts went over well.

18:20

Aaron: I think it just.

18:20

Aaron: I just got thanked for it.

18:22

Aaron: So, um.

18:23

Adam K: Oh. Well.

18:24

Aaron: Yeah.

18:24

Adam K: Good. I'm

18:25

Aaron: Should

18:25

Adam K: glad.

18:25

Aaron: be good.

18:26

Adam K: I'm glad that worked out.

18:27

Adam K: When do you want to put up our, uh, political ad?

18:31

Aaron: Let me put it up whenever we put it up this week.

18:33

Adam K: Okay, I gotta get the website done.

18:35

Adam K: But what's

18:37

Aaron: And the

18:37

Adam K: What's

18:37

Aaron: end of

18:37

Adam K: the

18:37

Aaron: this

18:37

Adam K: plan,

18:37

Aaron: week.

18:38

Adam K: Stan?

18:39

Aaron: Uh, well,

18:40

Adam K: You

18:40

Aaron: I

18:40

Adam K: want to buy

18:41

Aaron: need.

18:41

Adam K: some some ad spots for it?

18:44

Aaron: I do I, I need, I need some

18:47

Aaron: money, I'm gonna put them figure

18:49

Aaron: out some money to put into it

18:50

Aaron: because

18:50

Adam K: I wish

18:51

Aaron: I'm.

18:51

Adam K: you wouldn't quit all these jobs because I'm

18:53

Aaron: I'm trying to get more.

18:54

Adam K: okay.

18:55

Aaron: Um, yeah, the, uh, yeah, I, I

19:00

Aaron: think it'd be good to put some

19:02

Aaron: target some ads and, uh, and try

19:05

Aaron: and get some organic out of it

19:06

Aaron: to, um, get people, uh, sharing

19:10

Aaron: and, and putting out the word

19:11

Aaron: because that's

19:12

Adam K: Yeah.

19:12

Aaron: cheaper.

19:13

Aaron: Um, so yeah.

19:16

Adam K: Yeah. So I guess we'll make a post about that.

19:18

Adam K: Why?

19:18

Adam K: We made this

19:20

Aaron: Mhm.

19:21

Adam K: horrific piece of media that still makes me laugh.

19:26

Aaron: Yeah. That'll

19:26

Adam K: Yeah.

19:27

Aaron: be good though.

19:28

Aaron: It is funny how Greg Abbott,

19:29

Aaron: like yesterday or the day before

19:31

Aaron: said he's pausing spending on,

19:34

Aaron: on or he's not allowing any new

19:36

Aaron: flock contracts or something

19:38

Aaron: like that.

19:39

Adam K: Yeah. I well going like I've

19:42

Adam K: done very minimal research on

19:43

Adam K: this.

19:44

Adam K: I leave it to you, but I think it's just more of a way of

19:50

Adam K: mocking flock cameras and using a, uh, you know, some political

19:56

Adam K: unrest to get there because I, I don't have a horse in that race.

20:01

Adam K: It's I'm more just like, whatever Aaron wants.

20:03

Adam K: It's his state, not mine.

20:05

Aaron: Yeah.

20:05

Adam K: I'm just this coastal elite, uh,

20:10

Adam K: you know, going around in my

20:11

Adam K: Rivian's.

20:12

Adam K: I just spit up a chia seed.

20:13

Adam K: That's how, uh.

20:15

Aaron: Therapy sounds like it's doing

20:16

Adam K: Yeah.

20:17

Aaron: wonders for you.

20:18

Aaron: All this all this self admittance and.

20:20

Adam K: Well, it's all just AI now, so

20:22

Adam K: they just tell me how great I am

20:25

Adam K: over

20:25

Aaron: The,

20:25

Adam K: and

20:26

Aaron: uh,

20:26

Adam K: over.

20:27

Aaron: um, someone close to me who I, who I live with.

20:34

Aaron: who?

20:35

Aaron: Uh, she found out that her the

20:38

Aaron: person she was talking to, the

20:40

Aaron: supposed therapist person in

20:43

Aaron: India really just kind of ended

20:45

Aaron: up being more of a life coach

20:47

Aaron: and, uh, was getting like, I

20:51

Aaron: think getting mixed up with what

20:53

Aaron: her issues were versus other

20:55

Aaron: clients.

20:56

Adam K: Oh, yeah.

20:57

Aaron: And

20:57

Adam K: That's a lot to keep a hold of.

20:59

Aaron: yeah, she's meeting like three

21:01

Aaron: hundred people a day or

21:02

Aaron: something,

21:02

Adam K: Uh.

21:02

Aaron: you know, and so it was a, it

21:04

Aaron: all quickly unraveled and I felt

21:06

Aaron: bad.

21:07

Aaron: But, um, I was like, this is the future, you know?

21:11

Adam K: Yeah. When you're your AI therapist, can't remember which

21:15

Adam K: problem child you are.

21:17

Adam K: Yeah.

21:19

Aaron: Yeah.

21:19

Adam K: Well.

21:19

Aaron: But, uh.

21:20

Adam K: Well, according to, uh, was it makers of ChatGPT?

21:24

Adam K: OpenAI.

21:24

Adam K: We're going to have AGI like in six months.

21:27

Adam K: So, uh, I think what is it people say we're either we're

21:31

Adam K: all going to die or best case scenario, we're basically like

21:36

Adam K: the domesticated dogs of this planet while, uh, while AI just,

21:41

Adam K: you know, showers us with gifts and toys because they just think

21:44

Adam K: we're so cute.

21:46

Aaron: I really think this happens often.

21:49

Aaron: People underestimate how.

21:52

Aaron: Well, like people in higher positions underestimate how

21:54

Aaron: little people want to be told what to do.

21:57

Aaron: Like when it actually becomes

21:59

Aaron: real and someone's trying to

22:01

Aaron: like, even if it's beneficial to

22:03

Aaron: your life.

22:04

Aaron: If someone's like you do this, someone goes like, hey, fuck

22:07

Aaron: you, I'm going on strike.

22:09

Aaron: And then that's, you know, so we'll get to that point.

22:13

Aaron: I think like,

22:14

Adam K: Will we?

22:15

Aaron: yeah, I mean, even okay, so even

22:17

Aaron: with like the midterm stuff,

22:19

Aaron: right?

22:19

Aaron: Not to the briefly politically

22:22

Aaron: go here, but like, if something

22:24

Aaron: goes wacky and say there's like

22:26

Aaron: a blue wave or something and

22:28

Aaron: then, uh, Mike Johnson or

22:31

Aaron: whatever refuses to sit

22:32

Aaron: representatives.

22:34

Aaron: He's going to see like.

22:35

Aaron: And we will all be surprised by the.

22:38

Aaron: The amount of people will not take when they feel like

22:42

Aaron: someone's trying to tell them what to do from afar.

22:44

Aaron: Like it always had like.

22:46

Aaron: And it's surprising when it when it happens.

22:48

Aaron: But there is that element of yes, for the most part, we can

22:53

Aaron: be sheeple and, you know, have our flock cameras come in

22:56

Aaron: without us knowing and just all this other stuff.

22:58

Aaron: But at other point, like humans, particularly Americans and

23:02

Aaron: definitely the French, they're like, whenever anyone tries to

23:05

Aaron: be like, no, this is your life now there's just this revolt and

23:09

Aaron: you just go like, no, fuck you.

23:11

Aaron: I'm not doing this out

23:12

Adam K: So I.

23:13

Aaron: of spite.

23:14

Adam K: I called myself the coastal elite, but you did the thing

23:18

Adam K: where you brought up French people and French lifestyle.

23:22

Adam K: So.

23:23

Aaron: My last name is Mark key.

23:24

Aaron: You son of a bitch,

23:25

Adam K: Yeah,

23:26

Aaron: I

23:26

Adam K: I

23:26

Aaron: have.

23:27

Adam K: kind of box of trash with that name on it the other day.

23:30

Aaron: There's a bar down the street from me called the Marquee Two.

23:33

Aaron: And that's like.

23:36

Adam K: It sounds like a car that breaks down a lot.

23:38

Aaron: Yeah, yeah.

23:40

Adam K: It is

23:40

Aaron: Well, there's the grand

23:41

Adam K: Grand

23:41

Aaron: marquee,

23:41

Adam K: Marquis.

23:41

Aaron: there's the marquee two, and then there's the marquee.

23:45

Adam K: On on the way to the the Rivian test drive.

23:48

Adam K: Um, Jess is saying, you know, we could we could just speed this

23:52

Adam K: whole thing up if you, uh, if we just what if we go buy a two

23:55

Adam K: thousand and three T-Bird and you make it a project and make

24:01

Adam K: it into an electric car?

24:02

Adam K: And then she was reading all the problems that that car had.

24:06

Aaron: That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard her say.

24:09

Adam K: And I was like, well, once you get the smell of perfume and

24:12

Adam K: cigarettes out of it, um, I think, what is it?

24:18

Adam K: I think like the wheel locks up, the rear axle locks up.

24:22

Adam K: Um, the roof will just fall off.

24:24

Adam K: I think it,

24:25

Aaron: Uh.

24:26

Adam K: I was like, well you there's a reason

24:28

Aaron: Here's

24:28

Adam K: they

24:28

Aaron: what

24:29

Adam K: stopped

24:29

Aaron: you

24:29

Adam K: making

24:29

Aaron: here's

24:29

Adam K: it.

24:29

Aaron: what you'll have.

24:30

Aaron: At the end of the day.

24:31

Aaron: A car that can go up to forty miles on a charge with no

24:36

Aaron: speedometer, no radio, no locks, a roof that's half open and only

24:42

Aaron: rear brakes and no headlights.

24:46

Adam K: I did see a video of a guy.

24:48

Adam K: He took an old like a I think it

24:50

Adam K: was a Toyota, but like one of

24:52

Adam K: those old 80s Toyotas, uh,

24:54

Adam K: trucks.

24:54

Adam K: And he put a, uh, an electric motor and it only got about

24:58

Adam K: ninety miles to the charge, but he still somehow got his stick

25:02

Adam K: shift to work with it.

25:03

Aaron: Yeah you can.

25:04

Adam K: Yeah, I thought that was kind of cool.

25:06

Aaron: Well, you need to.

25:08

Aaron: So the electric motor needs to

25:11

Aaron: turn something, a differential

25:12

Aaron: or whatever.

25:13

Aaron: And you know, it doesn't really care what what's in between it.

25:16

Aaron: So if you connect it to the transmission, people with VW,

25:19

Aaron: old VW do this all the time.

25:21

Aaron: You can connect it to the transmission and you don't

25:25

Aaron: really need to shift.

25:26

Aaron: I mean, you need to put it in a forward gear or a reverse gear,

25:30

Adam K: Mhm.

25:30

Aaron: but you could put it in second or fourth or whatever.

25:35

Aaron: And the only thing that the only reason that you shift in general

25:40

Aaron: is because you can't have an engine that does forty thousand

25:44

Aaron: RPMs, you know, but an electric motor can do that.

25:47

Aaron: You know, it can do

25:48

Adam K: Mhm.

25:48

Aaron: whatever.

25:49

Aaron: So you can put it in any gear

25:50

Aaron: and then it has the torque to

25:51

Aaron: move it.

25:52

Aaron: So yeah, you can, I mean, if you

25:55

Aaron: wanted to and your car could do

25:56

Aaron: it, you could put it in fourth

25:58

Aaron: gear and provide you don't run

25:59

Aaron: out of RPMs on the electric

26:01

Aaron: motor.

26:01

Aaron: You could go four hundred miles an hour.

26:04

Aaron: But.

26:05

Adam K: But there's no. Does it still require a clutch?

26:09

Adam K: I guess is the question.

26:11

Aaron: Um.

26:12

Adam K: Is the clutch clutch isn't clutching anything?

26:15

Aaron: Yeah, yeah.

26:17

Aaron: You need the because, because essentially the clutch is

26:21

Aaron: grabbing the flywheel of the electric motor, right?

26:24

Aaron: So it's clamping on that flywheel.

26:26

Aaron: So if you're going to shift, you should disengage it so you can

26:31

Aaron: shift without grinding synchros in your transmission.

26:35

Aaron: So when you get that T-Bird and you start putting it together

26:39

Aaron: with its clunky automatic transmission, that was already

26:43

Aaron: way outdated even in two thousand and three.

26:46

Aaron: Uh, you can see how the torque converter and all that stuff

26:50

Adam K: It

26:50

Aaron: works

26:50

Adam K: was like

26:51

Aaron: with your

26:51

Adam K: a

26:51

Aaron: electric

26:51

Adam K: it was like

26:51

Aaron: motor.

26:51

Adam K: a Lincoln or something, right?

26:54

Aaron: I don't even remember.

26:55

Aaron: It

26:55

Adam K: Yeah.

26:55

Aaron: was just such a piece of shit

26:57

Aaron: that and people were so looking

26:59

Aaron: forward to it when it was coming

27:01

Aaron: out.

27:01

Adam K: Uh.

27:01

Aaron: But I say all this and we see

27:04

Aaron: this all the time in the car

27:06

Aaron: market.

27:06

Aaron: There will be someone like a

27:08

Aaron: Jess, but, you know, maybe

27:10

Aaron: they're in their twenties now

27:12

Aaron: and they'll be like, you know

27:14

Aaron: what?

27:14

Aaron: I remember when I was born, my

27:17

Aaron: my dad had this T-Bird that he

27:20

Aaron: would drive me to, you know,

27:21

Aaron: Montessori school in or

27:22

Aaron: whatever.

27:23

Aaron: Uh, and that'll be a car for

27:26

Aaron: them, and suddenly they'll be

27:27

Aaron: worth one hundred grand or two

27:28

Aaron: hundred grand.

27:29

Adam K: Yeah.

27:29

Aaron: And because they made so few of them and they were scrapped and

27:33

Aaron: there's like so few left, but.

27:37

Adam K: Well, I hope not.

27:40

Adam K: It's going to make more of these David Foster Wallace videos.

27:43

Aaron: Mhm.

27:44

Adam K: Yeah. That's the future

27:46

Aaron: Well.

27:46

Adam K: of memes.

27:47

Adam K: Did you get a chance to look at that?

27:49

Adam K: Um. Infinite slot link.

27:51

Aaron: I did, I watched it for a little bit.

27:53

Aaron: I actually, I understand what

27:57

Aaron: it's I understand this is the

27:59

Aaron: early days

28:00

Adam K: Mhm.

28:00

Aaron: and we and everyone knew this is what was going to happen.

28:04

Aaron: Anyone knows that it's going to be on demand TV to where either

28:10

Aaron: it's a party format like infinite slop or it's just your

28:13

Aaron: own channel where you're like, I want to watch, you know, I want

28:18

Aaron: a Magnum P.I. episode where Magnum gets killed, and then

28:24

Aaron: it's just focused on the butler.

28:25

Aaron: The rest of the time, you know, like whatever it is.

28:28

Aaron: And then it just makes that show for you.

28:31

Adam K: Yeah.

28:31

Aaron: Um, so with the infinite slop thing, I understand all that,

28:35

Aaron: but at the same time I was watching, I was like, okay, I'm

28:38

Aaron: kind of bored now,

28:39

Adam K: Mhm.

28:39

Aaron: you know, because it's, you can streaming on demand that AI

28:44

Aaron: stuff and generate.

28:45

Aaron: I mean, I can't imagine like their workflow and what they're

28:48

Aaron: doing because it was pretty, you know, it flowed pretty well.

28:51

Aaron: And the, the video model was pretty good.

28:54

Adam K: Mhm.

28:54

Aaron: Um, and the fact that there's a

28:56

Aaron: chat functionality and all that

28:57

Aaron: stuff,

28:57

Adam K: Well,

28:57

Aaron: like there's,

28:58

Adam K: I believe

28:58

Aaron: there's

28:58

Adam K: chat is dictating it.

29:00

Aaron: right chat is dictating

29:01

Adam K: Yeah.

29:01

Aaron: it. And to have all that incorporated in, I mean, they,

29:05

Aaron: they put time into it.

29:06

Aaron: And I was like very, you know, I was impressed by it.

29:09

Aaron: But at the same time, I was

29:10

Aaron: like, I'm, this is too boring

29:13

Aaron: now.

29:13

Adam K: Yeah.

29:13

Aaron: You

29:13

Adam K: Oh,

29:13

Aaron: know, it's

29:13

Adam K: yeah.

29:14

Aaron: just.

29:14

Adam K: No, no, I'm.

29:14

Aaron: Yeah.

29:14

Adam K: It is.

29:15

Adam K: Well it's also it's the, the

29:18

Adam K: flaw in groupthink is where, you

29:22

Adam K: know, I was looking at it last

29:24

Adam K: night, and there was one thing

29:25

Adam K: that was like popular where

29:26

Adam K: they're like goth gangster

29:28

Adam K: girls.

29:28

Adam K: And I just loaded it right now and they're still doing that.

29:31

Adam K: So it

29:31

Aaron: Yeah.

29:31

Adam K: becomes kind of insular.

29:32

Adam K: And it's just it's the snake

29:34

Adam K: eating its own tail and doing

29:35

Adam K: the thing.

29:36

Adam K: What you're talking about, where it's going.

29:39

Adam K: I don't even think you'll prompt it.

29:41

Adam K: I think it's going to be like a, it's what the next version of

29:44

Adam K: TikTok or Instagram reels is going to be, which is just, it

29:48

Adam K: is going to be this AI sort of content, like where it is just

29:52

Adam K: made in real time, where you're not going to actually say

29:56

Adam K: anything based on your browsing history because it tracks

29:59

Adam K: everything you do.

30:01

Adam K: And then based on, you know, the

30:02

Adam K: things you, your eyeball looks

30:04

Adam K: at for a microsecond longer than

30:06

Adam K: the other, it's just going to

30:07

Adam K: prompt it and just keep churning

30:08

Adam K: out more of that crap to keep

30:10

Adam K: you

30:10

Aaron: Yeah,

30:10

Adam K: glued to your phone

30:11

Aaron: yeah.

30:11

Adam K: or whatever retina installation we have next year.

30:15

Adam K: But, um.

30:16

Aaron: Yeah, absolutely.

30:17

Aaron: I mean, that's just the same with ads.

30:19

Aaron: Same with all that.

30:20

Aaron: Like

30:20

Adam K: Yeah.

30:21

Aaron: I should really build a thing that takes cookies and all this

30:25

Aaron: stuff and then, you know, sells it or, you know, sell it to

30:30

Aaron: companies of like, look, this, it'll target your prospective

30:34

Aaron: buyer with their name and their wants and stuff.

30:37

Aaron: And it'll get news because of how creepy it is.

30:40

Aaron: And then everyone will want it.

30:42

Aaron: They'll, everyone will want the

30:43

Aaron: woman being shoved to the

30:44

Aaron: ground.

30:45

Aaron: Uh, ad.

30:48

Aaron: You know, but yeah,

30:50

Adam K: Yeah.

30:50

Aaron: that's where it's going.

30:51

Aaron: I mean, that's

30:51

Adam K: Yeah.

30:51

Aaron: what it's going to be.

30:52

Adam K: Well, because I think how it

30:53

Adam K: started is so the, the tech

30:55

Adam K: they're using is obviously like

30:57

Adam K: server farms.

30:58

Adam K: They're not, they're not, this isn't on a, you know, fifty,

31:01

Adam K: ninety or whatever.

31:03

Adam K: It's like you need some pretty hefty stuff, but essentially

31:06

Adam K: mini max can do real time now, like on beefy enough hardware.

31:12

Adam K: So people were trying it on Twitch and immediately getting

31:15

Adam K: taken down because it just was like just Rick and Morty doing

31:18

Adam K: interdimensional cable and people prompting it, and I'm

31:22

Adam K: pretty sure not safe for work came up or who knows what, how

31:26

Adam K: many terms of service it was breaking, uh, that they were not

31:30

Adam K: turning a blind eye to.

31:31

Adam K: So yeah, it's just going to, someone is going to crack this

31:36

Adam K: nut and have the infinite, uh, Callaway golf ads.

31:41

Adam K: Um, what I would prefer is more, less of a chat integration and

31:46

Adam K: more of just pure randomness.

31:48

Aaron: Yeah.

31:48

Adam K: But that's me.

31:50

Aaron: Well, pure randomness.

31:52

Aaron: And then maybe you mix in the

31:53

Aaron: targeted ads that no cookies

31:57

Aaron: can't, can

31:58

Adam K: They can do whatever they want.

31:59

Aaron: I?

32:00

Aaron: No, they can, but they have your name.

32:02

Aaron: I, I don't know if that gets that specific.

32:04

Aaron: I know they can have they have certain age things because for

32:07

Aaron: some reason my, uh, VPN or whatever it is, is set to where

32:12

Aaron: I'm sixty five years old.

32:13

Aaron: So I'm, I constantly get this.

32:15

Aaron: I get to see all the spam that they get, which is great.

32:17

Adam K: Yeah.

32:17

Aaron: But,

32:18

Adam K: It's

32:18

Aaron: um,

32:18

Adam K: just German retirement homes.

32:20

Aaron: Yeah, there is a bunch of retirement home stuff, but

32:23

Aaron: there's also like, um, there's a lot of, I think I've shown you

32:27

Aaron: there's a lot of, uh, chair tai chi where it's like just thirty

32:31

Aaron: minutes in your chair a day and you can look like me and it's

32:34

Aaron: this Asian guy completely ripped and it shows him a month before

32:38

Aaron: and he has this like belly

32:39

Adam K: Mhm.

32:39

Aaron: and he's just sagging and he's like, got no hair.

32:42

Aaron: And then it shows him a month

32:43

Aaron: later, full head of hair and

32:45

Aaron: ripped.

32:45

Aaron: And

32:45

Adam K: Mhm.

32:46

Aaron: he's just like, just from spending, I think it's like ten

32:48

Aaron: minutes, ten minutes a day with my chair Tai chi.

32:50

Aaron: And then it shows some AI old man who's supposed to be me.

32:54

Aaron: And it's like, I've been using the chair Tai chi, and this is

32:57

Aaron: what I look like last month.

32:58

Aaron: And he's just got he's got tits

33:00

Aaron: and all sorts of stuff like

33:01

Aaron: that.

33:01

Aaron: And then he's like, he's got the

33:02

Aaron: same body as the Asian guy a

33:04

Aaron: month later.

33:05

Adam K: Mhm.

33:06

Aaron: Anyway, all that to say, you can make those targeted ads.

33:09

Aaron: I just don't I want to have the person's name in it.

33:12

Adam K: Yeah.

33:13

Aaron: Like, hey, Aaron, you know how your prostate is enlarged now?

33:16

Adam K: It's going to be like, hey.

33:18

Adam K: One zero four dot six eight dot four

33:19

Aaron: I

33:20

Adam K: two

33:20

Aaron: know

33:20

Adam K: dot.

33:20

Aaron: that's what I don't want.

33:22

Adam K: Yeah. Uh, I mean, like, I'm looking at it right now.

33:26

Adam K: And yes, if someone like a, a cool company, I don't know

33:32

Adam K: what's cool anymore.

33:34

Adam K: Liquid death, maybe

33:35

Aaron: Yeah.

33:35

Adam K: Pokemon or whatever.

33:37

Adam K: If they were brave enough, they would look at something like

33:40

Adam K: this and go, okay, um, allow chat to do whatever they want,

33:44

Adam K: but we want to buy a segment for like one hour and people are

33:49

Adam K: allowed to make whatever ads they want using our IP.

33:52

Adam K: Like that would be ballsy.

33:54

Adam K: It would be cool.

33:56

Adam K: I can't see anyone doing it other than Wendy's.

33:59

Aaron: Yeah. Because like, the places

34:04

Aaron: it would go inevitably is child

34:07

Aaron: porn, racism, etc., etc. and

34:11

Aaron: then you

34:12

Adam K: Good point.

34:12

Aaron: have to go

34:12

Adam K: Yeah.

34:13

Aaron: like, well, I don't know.

34:16

Aaron: It's the same thing with like the Callaway ad, it's you can,

34:20

Aaron: you know, do your apology and all that stuff.

34:22

Aaron: But at the end of the day, people are going to be like,

34:25

Aaron: they're gonna be like, God, Wendy's had this fucking

34:27

Aaron: nightmare of a thing today, man.

34:30

Aaron: I'm kind of hungry for a hamburger.

34:31

Aaron: You want to go to Wendy's, you know?

34:33

Aaron: And that's what it is.

34:34

Aaron: That's how it's always been.

34:36

Aaron: So, you know, brand

34:38

Adam K: Well.

34:38

Aaron: damage be damned.

34:40

Aaron: I'm sure you have a increased quarter anyway, but.

34:44

Adam K: Well, for a moment there, I thought you were actually asking

34:46

Adam K: me to go to Wendy's.

34:47

Adam K: And I thought you wanted to hang out, but

34:49

Aaron: No,

34:50

Adam K: here

34:50

Aaron: I

34:50

Adam K: we

34:50

Aaron: haven't

34:51

Adam K: are.

34:51

Aaron: been to Wendy's in probably fifteen years.

34:54

Aaron: Twenty years.

34:55

Adam K: No, I guess you got to live

34:59

Adam K: through their cool phase and be

35:01

Adam K: around long enough for their not

35:02

Adam K: cool phase.

35:04

Aaron: I mean, I could see their Twitter without eating a square.

35:07

Aaron: Hamburger.

35:08

Adam K: If yours ever comes out square, you let me know.

35:11

Adam K: I actually don't eat there often enough to know, but as

35:13

Aaron: Square.

35:13

Adam K: a kid it would be like you see

35:15

Adam K: the video, the commercial,

35:16

Adam K: there's Dave being like, eat my

35:19

Adam K: square hamburger and then you

35:20

Adam K: get it.

35:20

Adam K: And it's not really square.

35:23

Adam K: It maybe was a square at one

35:24

Adam K: time, but it inevitably becomes

35:26

Adam K: round.

35:27

Aaron: The heat.

35:28

Aaron: The heat rounds the corners and

35:30

Adam K: Yeah,

35:30

Aaron: warps the patty.

35:32

Aaron: Yeah, yeah.

35:32

Adam K: it just, it felt like a lie.

35:34

Adam K: And Dave broke my heart and my, uh, caloric deficit.

35:41

Aaron: This Ferrari is at ten thousand nine hundred dollars right now.

35:44

Aaron: It's got two and a half days left.

35:46

Aaron: I think it'll go for twenty grand.

35:50

Aaron: And it's got a clean title.

35:52

Aaron: I think you should get it.

35:53

Adam K: What?

35:54

Adam K: No.

35:54

Aaron: Yeah.

35:55

Adam K: Why?

35:57

Aaron: Because just.

35:58

Adam K: Does it take does it take unleaded?

36:01

Aaron: Yeah.

36:02

Adam K: Okay.

36:02

Aaron: What are you talking about?

36:03

Aaron: Yeah, it's

36:03

Adam K: Like.

36:04

Aaron: nineteen eighty six.

36:05

Adam K: Oh, okay, I can, I can just put the cheap gas in it.

36:09

Aaron: Uh, no, you might need premium.

36:12

Aaron: I mean, unleaded, all gas is unleaded.

36:15

Adam K: Okay,

36:15

Aaron: You

36:15

Adam K: so

36:15

Aaron: fool!

36:15

Adam K: nine dollars a gallon for a car

36:17

Adam K: that gets six miles to the

36:18

Adam K: gallon.

36:19

Aaron: No, it would get probably fourteen miles a

36:23

Adam K: What

36:24

Aaron: gallon.

36:24

Adam K: is it?

36:24

Adam K: It's a Ferrari.

36:25

Adam K: What?

36:26

Aaron: Three twenty eight GT s in

36:29

Adam K: No. Oh, so it is the Magnum

36:30

Aaron: Rosso

36:31

Adam K: P.I. car,

36:31

Aaron: Corsa.

36:32

Adam K: right?

36:32

Adam K: Yes. Okay. No, no, I don't want this.

36:37

Aaron: Wait, are you looking at it?

36:39

Adam K: Google images.

36:39

Adam K: Not. Not the listing.

36:42

Aaron: You

36:42

Adam K: What

36:43

Aaron: need

36:43

Adam K: junkyard

36:43

Aaron: to go to the listing.

36:43

Adam K: is it in?

36:44

Aaron: It's not on it.

36:45

Aaron: It's on.

36:46

Aaron: Bring a trailer.

36:46

Aaron: I'm going to send this to you.

36:47

Adam K: Bring a trailer.

36:48

Adam K: Sounds like a junkyard.

36:50

Aaron: Have you never been on bring a trailer?

36:52

Adam K: I have not.

36:54

Adam K: Should I?

36:54

Aaron: Yes. You full house.

36:56

Aaron: You're gonna find that two

36:57

Aaron: thousand and three piece of shit

37:01

Aaron: T-Bird.

37:01

Aaron: Let me see here.

37:03

Aaron: I'm

37:03

Adam K: Yeah.

37:03

Aaron: emailing this to you right now.

37:05

Adam K: Okay. Why are you emailing me?

37:06

Adam K: You have text messaging capabilities, right?

37:08

Aaron: Because I'm in front of my computer right now.

37:11

Adam K: What you're going to do is take

37:12

Adam K: a photo of your screen and then

37:14

Adam K: email that to me through a

37:15

Adam K: hotmail account that I've never

37:16

Adam K: seen before.

37:17

Aaron: I thought about taking a

37:18

Aaron: picture, but instead I sent you

37:20

Aaron: the link because I think it's

37:23

Aaron: great.

37:23

Aaron: You know what you actually could do?

37:26

Adam K: What?

37:26

Aaron: You could buy an electric motor for five grand like they have

37:30

Aaron: the full kit.

37:31

Aaron: This is a transversely mounted V8 in this Ferrari.

37:35

Aaron: You could pluck that thing out

37:36

Aaron: and put an electric motor in,

37:38

Aaron: and it would almost be like, you

37:40

Aaron: have to find a place to put the

37:41

Aaron: batteries.

37:42

Aaron: You have to put the batteries

37:43

Aaron: probably in the front, in the

37:45

Aaron: frunk.

37:46

Aaron: But, uh.

37:48

Adam K: You you should not put batteries in the front of a car.

37:50

Adam K: It has to

37:51

Aaron: Why

37:51

Adam K: go under the car, right?

37:53

Aaron: go wherever the hell you want?

37:55

Aaron: It doesn't matter.

37:55

Aaron: It

37:56

Adam K: Does

37:56

Aaron: does not

37:56

Adam K: it?

37:56

Aaron: matter.

37:56

Aaron: You get hit, they're gonna explode anyway.

38:00

Aaron: It does not matter at all.

38:04

Aaron: And you can't put it underneath in a Ferrari because it's

38:06

Aaron: already too low to the ground.

38:08

Adam K: Um, so you would go to Florida for this car?

38:11

Adam K: Just

38:12

Aaron: Uh.

38:12

Adam K: sitting on some dude's lawn who no longer is a cocaine kingpin.

38:17

Aaron: Well, the cocaine guy got arrested and or shot.

38:20

Adam K: Gotcha.

38:21

Aaron: And now this is where actually

38:22

Aaron: looks like some guy's, like,

38:23

Aaron: little.

38:25

Aaron: His little, like, project garage.

38:27

Aaron: It looks.

38:27

Aaron: But to be honest, this looks

38:28

Aaron: like where my dad is storing all

38:31

Aaron: of his cars except his is in

38:33

Aaron: Texas.

38:33

Aaron: But yeah, so this guy, he's got

38:35

Aaron: this Ferrari and it looks pretty

38:37

Aaron: good.

38:38

Aaron: He's he's Florida man.

38:40

Aaron: So take that for what you will,

38:41

Aaron: but clean title looks pretty

38:43

Aaron: good.

38:44

Adam K: Yeah, I guess

38:47

Aaron: Yeah.

38:47

Adam K: I'm just.

38:48

Adam K: I'm looking at the rust on it and.

38:50

Aaron: There's a few rust places.

38:52

Aaron: But here's the great

38:52

Adam K: I

38:53

Aaron: thing.

38:53

Adam K: like I like the CD player from nineteen ninety three, though.

38:55

Adam K: That's pretty cool.

38:56

Aaron: Yeah. It's

38:58

Adam K: He did upgrade that.

38:59

Aaron: I think it's an aluminum car.

39:02

Aaron: So

39:02

Adam K: Uh huh.

39:02

Aaron: the rust would be, you know, not

39:05

Adam K: Huh.

39:05

Aaron: awful, but uh, but

39:09

Adam K: I,

39:09

Aaron: it looks I think it looks pretty good.

39:10

Adam K: I could smell the Newport from here.

39:14

Adam K: Oh,

39:14

Aaron: Uh.

39:15

Adam K: there's.

39:15

Adam K: Where do I put my golf bags in this thing?

39:17

Adam K: There's no room in the back.

39:19

Aaron: You need to probably get out all the vajazzling from the

39:22

Aaron: passenger seat that are embedded in the in the supple leather.

39:26

Adam K: I'm going to find some Quaaludes in the glove compartment.

39:31

Aaron: Yeah. Oh,

39:32

Adam K: Oh.

39:32

Aaron: yeah.

39:32

Adam K: Oh, God. I mean.

39:36

Aaron: You're looking at it and

39:38

Aaron: thinking about your future in

39:39

Aaron: it.

39:40

Aaron: I've sold enough cars to know

39:42

Aaron: when I've got someone on the

39:43

Aaron: lot.

39:44

Adam K: It looks like something I would live in.

39:47

Adam K: Not by choice.

39:48

Aaron: Well, yeah, you would eventually

39:50

Aaron: live in it after you lose the

39:52

Aaron: house.

39:54

Aaron: Yeah.

39:54

Adam K: Putting money into repairing this thing.

39:57

Aaron: I want to

39:58

Adam K: Restoring

39:58

Aaron: say my dad

39:58

Adam K: it.

39:59

Aaron: had one of these on his, like, little used car lot.

40:03

Aaron: I want to say.

40:05

Adam K: Uh.

40:05

Aaron: And his buddy Daryl went and did

40:07

Aaron: a bunch of drug deals in it

40:09

Aaron: because they were, like, trying

40:09

Aaron: to live out their Miami Vice

40:11

Aaron: fantasies.

40:12

Aaron: Um, and then I, I don't know if it was this one or it was one of

40:18

Aaron: the Porsches that got, uh, T-boned and cut in half.

40:23

Aaron: And then I think I told you this, and then they had to, they

40:25

Aaron: found another one and rewelded it together in half.

40:28

Aaron: And then as they were driving it to a customer got T-boned again

40:31

Aaron: and cut in half and insurance paid full for it.

40:33

Aaron: And then they just rewelded

40:35

Aaron: another one together and sold

40:37

Aaron: that one.

40:38

Aaron: It was like two different cars that were, were, uh, stitched

40:42

Aaron: back together anyway.

40:44

Aaron: Um, selling cars is a lot different in the eighties.

40:47

Adam K: Yeah, I'm looking at this website.

40:49

Adam K: They got some nice looking tractors that I could probably

40:51

Adam K: use to just have some.

40:54

Adam K: I have some work coming up I need to do.

40:56

Adam K: Do they sell?

40:57

Adam K: Oh, they sell that car that can

40:58

Adam K: drive in the water from the

40:59

Adam K: fifties.

41:00

Aaron: Yeah.

41:01

Adam K: The

41:01

Aaron: The little

41:02

Adam K: Amphicar

41:02

Aaron: amphibious car.

41:03

Adam K: model seven

41:03

Aaron: Yeah.

41:04

Adam K: seventy.

41:04

Adam K: Okay.

41:05

Aaron: Lyndon Johnson had one of those.

41:07

Adam K: Yeah.

41:07

Aaron: And after he showed guests on his ranch, his cock, he'd put

41:11

Aaron: him in the car, and then he'd go drive him into the lake.

41:14

Adam K: Sixties were a nightmare.

41:16

Aaron: Yeah.

41:17

Adam K: God, the president just whipped

41:19

Adam K: out his nine inch hog, and then

41:21

Adam K: he took me in a death car that

41:24

Adam K: can

41:25

Aaron: So

41:25

Adam K: a boat.

41:26

Aaron: he drove me into a lake in this small gay looking car, and then

41:30

Aaron: steered the car with his cock across the lake.

41:34

Adam K: And he was just drinking from the bottle.

41:36

Adam K: He didn't even have it in the glass.

41:38

Aaron: Yeah.

41:38

Adam K: God.

41:38

Aaron: And he was on the phone the entire time, having.

41:42

Aaron: He's talking to some tailor about his pants.

41:47

Adam K: The times they were different.

41:49

Aaron: Mhm.

41:49

Adam K: More paranoid, they would say simpler.

41:53

Adam K: Others would say

41:55

Aaron: Mhm.

41:55

Adam K: it's always been about the haves and the have nots.

41:59

Adam K: Anyway, why do you think orcas respect us?

42:05

Adam K: It's

42:05

Aaron: Uh,

42:05

Adam K: because the cars we build.

42:06

Aaron: Yeah.

42:07

Adam K: That's why they don't kill us in the wild.

42:09

Adam K: Only if we trap them in SeaWorld for twenty years of their life

42:12

Adam K: and essentially, you know, put them in solitary confinement.

42:17

Aaron: I think Ferrari was past using

42:19

Aaron: whale oil and things by this

42:20

Aaron: point.

42:21

Aaron: Chevy maybe not, but definitely Ferrari.

42:24

Adam K: I think that Ferrari showed me requires whale oil.

42:27

Aaron: Uh.

42:28

Adam K: I think that's how you keep the the calipers going.

42:32

Aaron: I told my uncle Mark when he rebuilt the transmission on the

42:35

Aaron: Chevy in my garage.

42:36

Aaron: Now, he was really torn because

42:37

Aaron: he he didn't want to get rid of

42:39

Aaron: the whale oil in it because he

42:40

Aaron: was like, he's like a sucker for

42:42

Aaron: originality to like and like an

42:45

Aaron: autistic degree.

42:47

Aaron: And he was like, no, this is filled with and there is a cool

42:50

Aaron: kind of aspect of like, this is full of whale oil.

42:53

Aaron: Uh, but, you know, it was between driving it and

42:57

Aaron: preserving the mammal, uh, fat that was inside and he had to

43:01

Aaron: make a decision.

43:02

Aaron: So yeah,

43:04

Adam K: Yeah.

43:05

Aaron: but

43:05

Adam K: Well.

43:05

Aaron: here's the thing that I'm sure he's not saying.

43:08

Aaron: I'm sure he kept the whale oil that he drained out of it.

43:11

Aaron: And I get to find it when he passes in some like container

43:15

Aaron: where I'm like, oh, what's this?

43:16

Aaron: And I pull it open and I'm like.

43:20

Aaron: It's like some beluga whales

43:22

Aaron: entrails from eighty five years

43:25

Aaron: ago.

43:25

Adam K: Hey, you could resell that stuff for, uh, perfume materials.

43:30

Aaron: Yeah.

43:30

Adam K: Some some slippery Frenchman.

43:33

Aaron: I sell it to RFK for grilling.

43:39

Adam K: He's like, this is what I put on the men I hunt.

43:42

Aaron: Is that real whale oil?

43:45

Adam K: If

43:45

Aaron: And

43:45

Adam K: you

43:45

Aaron: he

43:45

Adam K: did.

43:46

Aaron: sticks his pinky in and

43:47

Adam K: If

43:47

Aaron: he

43:47

Adam K: you did that

43:48

Aaron: goes,

43:48

Adam K: in

43:48

Aaron: mm,

43:48

Adam K: front of Joe Rogan, he would say, that's too much.

43:50

Aaron: yeah.

43:50

Adam K: That's not funny.

43:51

Aaron: Sorry.

43:52

Adam K: It's like, uh, Jerry Seinfeld sitting with Kramer.

43:55

Adam K: Stop laughing.

43:57

Adam K: Stop it.

43:58

Aaron: So funny.

43:59

Adam K: That's not funny.

44:01

Aaron: Apologetic.

44:02

Adam K: Yeah, that's how funny Kramer was.

44:04

Adam K: He just needs to sit there.

44:06

Adam K: Stop laughing.

44:08

Aaron: Mhm.

44:08

Adam K: He's not.

44:09

Adam K: He's not.

44:09

Adam K: He's that guy you laughed at running through the door.

44:13

Adam K: I'm done doing, Jerry.

44:14

Aaron: Yeah.

44:16

Adam K: It hurts to do it.

44:17

Adam K: I'm just going to watch a more

44:18

Adam K: mini Max videos of lost Seinfeld

44:21

Adam K: episodes

44:23

Aaron: Yeah.

44:23

Adam K: anyway.

44:24

Adam K: Okay, well, let's get this political post going.

44:28

Adam K: Um, we need to talk about the

44:32

Adam K: rookie script that you gave me

44:34

Adam K: that, um, I aged about four

44:37

Adam K: years reading it, thinking of

44:39

Adam K: all the work that would go into

44:40

Adam K: that, but.

44:41

Aaron: Yeah. I think, uh.

44:43

Adam K: We need to hire an artist.

44:45

Adam K: I'm sorry.

44:45

Adam K: I hate to tell you that, but we need someone

44:47

Aaron: Uh.

44:47

Adam K: who can, like, help create consistent characters.

44:51

Aaron: Yeah, my thought was like one.

44:55

Aaron: And I realize, like, I've not

44:57

Aaron: really written animated shows

44:59

Aaron: before.

44:59

Aaron: I've only written live action thing.

45:01

Aaron: And that was very much written, like live action.

45:04

Adam K: Mhm.

45:04

Aaron: Uh, it could probably be instead

45:07

Aaron: of thirty three pages, it could

45:08

Aaron: be eleven.

45:10

Adam K: Mhm.

45:10

Aaron: Uh, but the other thing too is like, if you hire an artist for

45:15

Aaron: that first episode, if you have that script, you just, you have

45:20

Aaron: them sketch out like just a few different, like what the

45:24

Aaron: background looks like, obviously character models and then just

45:29

Aaron: the overall style.

45:30

Aaron: And then

45:31

Adam K: Mhm.

45:31

Aaron: you know, from that script and then go from that, like there's

45:34

Aaron: certain things in at least if this, if this were actually

45:38

Aaron: being made in the first few episodes, there's like the

45:41

Aaron: apartment that's always there.

45:43

Aaron: The battle zones are kind of similar.

45:46

Aaron: You

45:46

Adam K: Mhm.

45:46

Aaron: know, there's, there's certain things that you can kind of like

45:50

Aaron: create set pieces for.

45:53

Aaron: Um,

45:54

Adam K: Yeah.

45:55

Aaron: but yeah, it's, it is one of those things where you just want

45:57

Aaron: to get someone making that those, what I would call I mean,

46:03

Aaron: they're essentially like a why is the word escaping me now?

46:07

Adam K: Storyboard.

46:08

Aaron: Storyboards. Yes. So.

46:11

Adam K: In the world of animation, at

46:12

Adam K: least to my understanding, a way

46:15

Adam K: of someone like, you know, gets

46:18

Adam K: their name is by their

46:19

Adam K: storyboards.

46:20

Adam K: So someone like Seth MacFarlane got his start doing storyboards.

46:23

Aaron: Really?

46:24

Adam K: Mhm. That's like, because you're, you're, that's kind of

46:29

Adam K: from my understanding, again, I'm probably doing a really shit

46:32

Adam K: job of explaining this.

46:33

Adam K: But

46:33

Aaron: Yeah. Yeah. You

46:33

Adam K: yeah,

46:34

Aaron: are.

46:34

Adam K: um, like, that's, that's almost

46:36

Adam K: more important than your script

46:38

Adam K: because obviously it's

46:39

Adam K: animation.

46:40

Adam K: It's such a visual medium.

46:41

Aaron: Mhm.

46:42

Adam K: Um, yeah.

46:44

Adam K: What you wrote was a movie script.

46:46

Aaron: Yeah.

46:46

Adam K: Um, not, it wasn't animation.

46:49

Adam K: So it's like you use that I believe, you know, obviously to,

46:53

Adam K: you know, sort of guide where it's going, but the story comes

46:57

Adam K: to life in the storyboard.

46:58

Adam K: So it's like, yeah, we need to hire storyboard artist.

47:00

Adam K: We need someone

47:01

Aaron: Yeah.

47:01

Adam K: who can create a design

47:04

Adam K: language, who can create

47:06

Adam K: consistency.

47:08

Adam K: Um, again, it's experimental.

47:09

Adam K: So it's like, yeah, of course I

47:10

Adam K: want to use AI and I want to

47:12

Adam K: like, I want to take what

47:13

Adam K: they're making, feed it into the

47:15

Adam K: machine, create a like an art

47:17

Adam K: style.

47:18

Adam K: Laura um, I forget what that

47:21

Adam K: stands for, but whatever, it's

47:22

Adam K: like, it's basically this is the

47:24

Adam K: rook style.

47:25

Adam K: This is how we do it and this is how we're able to turn something

47:27

Adam K: around so quickly, but it's going to require people much

47:32

Adam K: more talented than us.

47:33

Adam K: So, um,

47:33

Aaron: Yeah.

47:34

Adam K: yeah, I'm like, I'm happy to keep experimenting with it.

47:37

Adam K: And I think it's a, it's a great

47:38

Adam K: thing because this thing's never

47:40

Adam K: going to get made unless we do

47:41

Adam K: it.

47:41

Adam K: So.

47:42

Aaron: Well, yeah.

47:43

Aaron: Also to that point, you have to

47:45

Aaron: understand where like in

47:47

Aaron: production in general, whether

47:49

Aaron: it's animation, live action,

47:51

Aaron: whatever, like at every step of

47:53

Aaron: the way, people should be

47:55

Aaron: brought in who are better than

47:58

Aaron: you at whatever your job is to

48:00

Aaron: make the overall end result

48:03

Aaron: better.

48:03

Aaron: So like any script is okay, you know, a script has to be good

48:08

Aaron: and it has to be set on its own.

48:10

Aaron: But then you have a director who elevates it that much further,

48:14

Aaron: and then you have an editor that elevates it that much further.

48:16

Aaron: You have a great crew that you know is full of ideas that, you

48:20

Aaron: know, blah, blah, blah.

48:21

Aaron: But anyway, so same with this.

48:23

Aaron: Like you have to understand

48:24

Aaron: where your limitations are as,

48:27

Aaron: as a visual designer and be

48:29

Aaron: like, who could better, who

48:32

Aaron: could bring this vision to the

48:33

Aaron: next level?

48:34

Aaron: And also the benefit of, you

48:37

Aaron: know, giving someone money for

48:38

Aaron: creative as opposed to just a

48:40

Aaron: machine, you know, all that

48:41

Aaron: other shit.

48:42

Aaron: But.

48:42

Adam K: Yeah. No, I mean, again, it's like the thing we always say is

48:47

Adam K: you use it as a use the tools for to make up for where you're

48:52

Adam K: lacking in the, the budget department, you know, not the

48:56

Adam K: other way around.

48:56

Adam K: You don't slash budget and replace humans with the machine

49:00

Adam K: that may or may not be able to do your job better.

49:03

Adam K: Um,

49:03

Aaron: Mhm.

49:04

Adam K: um, we're currently starting at zero.

49:06

Adam K: Whereas like you look at any sort of animated project, even

49:09

Adam K: on YouTube, short little two minute, three minute video, and

49:12

Adam K: it's got like thirty five people working on it.

49:15

Aaron: Mhm.

49:16

Adam K: So, um, and again, this isn't me

49:18

Adam K: being like looking at this and

49:21

Adam K: saying like, oh, this is for the

49:23

Adam K: art.

49:23

Adam K: It's like, no, this is very much a commercial product, but it's

49:27

Adam K: our original idea.

49:28

Adam K: And this is kind of a unique way, you know, to just like kind

49:32

Adam K: of bring it to life.

49:33

Adam K: And I look, I get it.

49:36

Adam K: It's hard for people to read.

49:38

Aaron: Mhm.

49:38

Adam K: Reading is hard.

49:40

Aaron: The other thing that has to be kind of figured out with it and

49:42

Aaron: like, it's kind of a, um, I guess a stylistic approach and a

49:48

Aaron: narrative approach is like how I wrote it is, is again, maybe it

49:54

Aaron: was from more of a live action perspective, but There's,

49:58

Aaron: there's atmosphere and there's, there's, uh, story in the

50:02

Aaron: silence and in the, like the, you know, the ways, the, the,

50:07

Aaron: there's sadness and isolation in the silence silences and just

50:12

Adam K: Mhm.

50:12

Aaron: how he interacts with his environment, whether that makes

50:15

Aaron: a better live action or a animated like, you know, the

50:20

Aaron: other way would be, you know, some of the animation that we

50:23

Aaron: grew up on is there is not those kind of silences.

50:27

Aaron: I mean, there can be, I guess, an anime and things like that.

50:30

Aaron: But all the animation I know

50:31

Aaron: Futurama except blah, blah,

50:33

Aaron: blah, they're all strict

50:34

Aaron: comedies.

50:35

Aaron: And, you know, every seven minutes you have an act break.

50:38

Aaron: There's a joke every five seconds there's,

50:42

Adam K: Mhm.

50:42

Aaron: you know, and it's just, it's a

50:43

Aaron: completely different pace than

50:45

Aaron: what I wrote, which is more, uh,

50:48

Aaron: literary.

50:49

Adam K: Yeah. Well, because, I mean, at

50:51

Adam K: some point when null is like

50:53

Adam K: narrating the things he's doing

50:55

Adam K: or anything like that, like that

50:57

Adam K: would be taken care of by a look

51:00

Adam K: or

51:00

Aaron: Uh. Huh?

51:01

Adam K: a

51:01

Aaron: Yeah,

51:01

Adam K: subtle gesture

51:01

Aaron: yeah.

51:02

Adam K: or you like you remove.

51:06

Adam K: So the like, especially anime is

51:08

Adam K: a great example because they get

51:10

Adam K: away with so much by just

51:13

Adam K: holding on a still shot for a

51:15

Adam K: long time.

51:15

Adam K: There's this one, uh, moment in Evangelion.

51:18

Adam K: I forget if it's the movie or

51:20

Adam K: the show, but one of them, they

51:22

Adam K: do these long shots that are

51:23

Adam K: pretty great because it's, it's

51:24

Adam K: just like a lot of tension where

51:25

Adam K: there's just two characters in

51:27

Adam K: an elevator and it's going down

51:28

Adam K: for like five minutes and no one

51:29

Adam K: says anything.

51:31

Aaron: Mhm.

51:31

Adam K: And part of you is like, that's brilliant.

51:33

Adam K: And then the animators like,

51:34

Adam K: thank you for thinking that up

51:36

Adam K: my wrist.

51:37

Adam K: Thanks you for the work I didn't have to do there.

51:41

Adam K: Um, but I appreciate those things.

51:43

Adam K: Um, and then on the other hand,

51:45

Adam K: there's like, there's just been

51:48

Adam K: some really lazy animation

51:50

Adam K: you've seen where it's just a

51:52

Adam K: PNG and they added the, you

51:54

Adam K: know.

51:55

Aaron: Leaves

51:56

Adam K: Uh,

51:56

Aaron: falling.

51:56

Adam K: yeah. Just flat.

51:58

Adam K: No. No movement, no nothing.

52:01

Adam K: Um, and that usually comes from

52:03

Adam K: spending so much time on the big

52:05

Adam K: set pieces.

52:06

Adam K: And it just would be cool to find that middle ground without,

52:10

Adam K: uh, you know, having to ruin a Korean man again.

52:16

Adam K: I respect them

52:16

Aaron: Yeah

52:16

Adam K: too much.

52:17

Aaron: yeah.

52:18

Aaron: I it's again.

52:20

Aaron: That's what I'm.

52:21

Aaron: Yeah, that's what I'm talking

52:22

Aaron: about with the style is like if

52:23

Aaron: you're.

52:25

Aaron: I am fine with leaning in

52:28

Aaron: towards it's, you know, there

52:31

Aaron: are the silences speak the set

52:34

Aaron: speaks as opposed to, you know,

52:37

Aaron: having

52:38

Adam K: Yeah,

52:38

Aaron: to

52:38

Adam K: yeah.

52:38

Aaron: jam everything in into eleven

52:40

Aaron: minutes versus twenty two or

52:42

Aaron: whatever.

52:43

Aaron: But.

52:43

Adam K: Yeah. Well, like first, like the first thing that stood out, not.

52:46

Adam K: We don't have to talk about this

52:47

Adam K: right now, but, like, the number

52:49

Adam K: one thing.

52:49

Adam K: I thought it was like the opening should change.

52:52

Adam K: Um, it should probably open up with a scene from the r m z. It

52:57

Adam K: should open up with not

52:59

Aaron: So cold.

52:59

Aaron: Cold. Open.

53:00

Adam K: a cold open.

53:01

Adam K: Yeah, that's like related to

53:03

Adam K: another character like name or

53:04

Adam K: Raphael or someone who we see

53:06

Adam K: later that,

53:07

Aaron: Mhm.

53:08

Adam K: like, you need to grab the audience immediately.

53:10

Adam K: Like you need

53:11

Aaron: Right.

53:11

Adam K: that hook, that go, okay, well, whoa, where is this going?

53:14

Adam K: Whereas if you just start with null and like, even maybe like

53:18

Adam K: the way he's watching Rme's live, maybe that's different.

53:21

Adam K: You know,

53:21

Aaron: Yeah.

53:22

Adam K: um, there's, there's just different ways of, you know,

53:26

Adam K: it's an adaptation.

53:27

Adam K: It's not a, you know, a one to one, um, remake basically.

53:31

Adam K: So it's like.

53:32

Aaron: Well, again.

53:33

Aaron: That goes.

53:34

Aaron: That's another stylistic thing

53:36

Aaron: that I was kind of hinting at is

53:38

Aaron: like, okay, if it's an

53:39

Aaron: adaptation, you're talking about

53:41

Aaron: a what could be and you have the

53:46

Aaron: beats of a story, but you are

53:47

Aaron: rewriting, you know,

53:49

Aaron: essentially.

53:49

Aaron: So it becomes a scope thing.

53:51

Aaron: So are you.

53:53

Aaron: Are we telling a story similarly to the book?

53:57

Aaron: For those who haven't aren't

53:58

Aaron: reading it, but it's like kind

54:00

Aaron: of a faithful adaptation, if you

54:02

Aaron: will, that does, you know,

54:05

Aaron: you're essentially instead of an

54:06

Aaron: audiobook, you're getting this

54:07

Aaron: visual experience.

54:08

Aaron: It also has good pacing, whatever, blah, blah, blah.

54:10

Adam K: Mhm.

54:10

Aaron: Or are you taking this idea,

54:13

Aaron: this IP, its story beats its

54:15

Aaron: blah, blah, blah, but then

54:16

Aaron: redoing it all to then create

54:19

Aaron: its own interesting standalone

54:21

Aaron: series.

54:22

Aaron: Like because then you, you get into a whole nother world.

54:24

Aaron: They're like, and I understand that.

54:27

Aaron: And, but I also understand how

54:29

Aaron: that goes with you're talking

54:30

Aaron: about that could be to get an

54:32

Aaron: episode, right?

54:33

Aaron: That's a couple months, right, of writing.

54:37

Adam K: It's it's meeting somewhere in the middle.

54:38

Adam K: But, you know, my thought was Noel is a dog and he was brought

54:43

Adam K: from a different planet.

54:44

Adam K: And instead of robots, uh, he drives a taxi.

54:49

Aaron: You say that, but you know, there are similar there are

54:52

Aaron: similarities to taxi driver in this in how I, I harness my

54:58

Aaron: inner Paul Schrader and

54:59

Adam K: Yeah.

54:59

Aaron: no, but I, I mean, I'm serious.

55:00

Aaron: Like there is a, there's a scope thing of like, well, what do you

55:04

Aaron: want it to be?

55:05

Aaron: Because I know that if you are actually a. Yeah, maybe it is

55:11

Aaron: somewhere in the middle,

55:12

Adam K: I think

55:12

Aaron: but.

55:13

Adam K: there's certain scenes like for example, like in the, in the

55:15

Adam K: script thing, you, you put in the part where he, um, he buys

55:21

Adam K: the expensive letter opener.

55:23

Adam K: Right?

55:23

Aaron: Yeah.

55:24

Adam K: Um, that's fine if we're going to call back to that later.

55:28

Adam K: Otherwise that is a, that's like

55:31

Adam K: a, that's an extra scene, that's

55:32

Adam K: an asset.

55:33

Adam K: And it's not exactly doing much world building where we could

55:37

Adam K: probably do more with less.

55:39

Aaron: Well, but then I would argue it,

55:42

Aaron: that's not intended to be

55:43

Aaron: callbacks.

55:44

Aaron: So it's not a callback thing.

55:46

Aaron: It is a world building thing up

55:48

Aaron: front of Noel's Laziness, the

55:51

Aaron: state of the world, like

55:53

Aaron: accelerated of like how, how,

55:56

Aaron: how much we don't want to be

56:00

Aaron: bothered.

56:01

Aaron: And, uh, you know, with I guess

56:04

Adam K: Yeah.

56:04

Aaron: with that, you know what I'm saying?

56:06

Adam K: Well,

56:06

Aaron: Like

56:06

Adam K: also

56:06

Aaron: we.

56:07

Adam K: like the way I would rework that rather than him pulling up a

56:10

Adam K: menu and buying it, he would just whip out the letter opener.

56:14

Adam K: It's the thing.

56:15

Adam K: And then a digital display, just like we have like a whatever,

56:19

Adam K: like a debit negative eight hundred, you know, credits.

56:22

Adam K: You just do that.

56:24

Aaron: Yeah. I mean, yeah, my, I was

56:27

Aaron: treating it as like a humorous

56:29

Aaron: beat of like, it's not only

56:31

Aaron: showing how like wasteful of a

56:34

Aaron: society we are, how wasteful

56:35

Aaron: Noel is.

56:36

Aaron: It shows how lazy and a piece of shit he is.

56:38

Aaron: And it's just like a, it's a

56:40

Aaron: beat of he can't walk across the

56:42

Aaron: room

56:43

Adam K: Mhm.

56:43

Aaron: or he can't be bothered to walk across the room.

56:46

Aaron: So

56:46

Adam K: Yeah.

56:46

Aaron: it's supposed.

56:46

Aaron: Yeah.

56:47

Adam K: Yeah. No, no, it's all there.

56:48

Adam K: I'm just saying like, from my

56:52

Adam K: perspective, thinking of it as

56:53

Adam K: like, you know, as, as the, uh,

56:56

Adam K: resident prompt engineer here,

56:58

Adam K: uh,

56:59

Aaron: You're

56:59

Adam K: that.

56:59

Aaron: talking about how you would put it into to animate it and things

57:02

Adam K: Just,

57:02

Aaron: like that.

57:02

Adam K: yeah,

57:02

Aaron: Like.

57:02

Adam K: like we would look at it in a

57:04

Adam K: storyboard and go, this could be

57:06

Adam K: much quicker.

57:07

Adam K: This, this has slowed down

57:08

Aaron: Sure.

57:08

Adam K: and it's, it's the whole Chekhov's gun thing where it's

57:11

Adam K: like, if we're going to spend a lot of time, if we're going to

57:13

Adam K: spend more than 20s on something, it damn well better

57:18

Adam K: be a callback later.

57:18

Adam K: You know this as a visual like viewer

57:20

Aaron: No, but

57:21

Adam K: of

57:21

Aaron: but

57:21

Adam K: things.

57:21

Aaron: but not everything is a call.

57:23

Aaron: Sometimes it's just sometimes it is world building.

57:25

Aaron: But here's

57:26

Adam K: Sure.

57:26

Aaron: what I would say to you as an editor.

57:28

Aaron: You know, if we went into the middle ground on that thing and

57:33

Aaron: said, just like he pulls up knife and the credits go away,

57:37

Aaron: then, you know, at some point you're just going to, you're

57:40

Aaron: going to be in the edit, you're just going to cut it because

57:42

Adam K: Or,

57:42

Aaron: you're like.

57:43

Adam K: or we need to come up with two other things so that it has the

57:47

Adam K: one two punch, basically like it's like, what are the three

57:52

Adam K: things so that it there is a, there's a rhythm, there's a beat

57:55

Adam K: there to the edit as opposed to one and done.

57:59

Adam K: This is wasteful.

58:00

Adam K: We have to like, this is like, it's just visual storytelling.

58:06

Adam K: You have to hammer the viewer with the stuff in a way that

58:10

Adam K: it's subliminal without it being so in their face of just showing

58:14

Adam K: it because you show it once, it will be forgotten.

58:17

Adam K: So to make

58:18

Aaron: Yes.

58:18

Adam K: it memorable, you need to show it again in a different way.

58:23

Aaron: Tell me about this rule of three.

58:25

Adam K: I don't know, I dropped out of community college, so

58:28

Aaron: I know.

58:28

Adam K: I bought a DVD copy of Swat and

58:31

Adam K: I said later, this is all I

58:34

Adam K: need.

58:35

Aaron: I bought a copy of Deep Blue Sea and said, this is my everything

58:39

Aaron: I need to know about narrative.

58:41

Adam K: Deep Blue Sea was one of the

58:42

Adam K: earlier DVDs I did watch, but

58:48

Adam K: the timing doesn't really work

58:50

Adam K: out there.

58:50

Adam K: I only remember Swat because the guy who taught the screenwriting

58:56

Adam K: class, which I didn't take, was the original writer of the like

59:00

Adam K: two thousand and three version of Swat with Colin Farrell, and

59:03

Aaron: Uh.

59:04

Adam K: he mostly from what I heard from a buddy of mine who took it, he

59:07

Adam K: would just bitch about how they changed everything that he had

59:09

Adam K: originally put in.

59:11

Aaron: Yeah, that's that checks out.

59:13

Adam K: Yeah. Um, and then, oh, because I, yeah, specifically, he

59:18

Adam K: mentioned how the only thing they kept in was at the end.

59:20

Adam K: They like, I think they land a

59:21

Adam K: plane on a, on a freeway or

59:23

Adam K: something.

59:24

Adam K: And so me and my, my young age,

59:26

Adam K: I think this was before IMDb

59:27

Adam K: trivia.

59:27

Adam K: I'd always go to like trivia

59:29

Adam K: websites because I just, I love

59:31

Adam K: movie trivia.

59:32

Adam K: And I submitted that as a factoid.

59:34

Adam K: And the guy who ran the site,

59:35

Adam K: because this was before it was,

59:36

Adam K: it was all, you know, it went

59:38

Adam K: through a gatekeeper, basically

59:39

Adam K: people who the web hosts or

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Adam K: whatever.

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Adam K: And he had put a post like been

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Adam K: getting a lot of shitty trivia

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Adam K: lately.

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Adam K: And I'm like, I don't know if that was a subtweet at me.

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Adam K: Uh, but that was the last time I

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Adam K: ever submitted any trivia to a

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Adam K: website because it was a true

59:53

Adam K: fact.

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Aaron: Yeah.

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Adam K: Um, it was some inside knowledge that I felt I had earned from

59:58

Adam K: the community college script professor, uh, and my friend who

1:00:00

Adam K: had taken the class that I heard the story from third, uh, you

1:00:03

Adam K: know, second hand.

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Adam K: So.

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Aaron: Well, on that note, I need to go work on a book that I'm writing.

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Adam K: Mhm.

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Aaron: Uh, I'm

1:00:12

Adam K: What's it,

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Aaron: going to.

1:00:12

Adam K: what's

1:00:12

Aaron: I'm going

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Adam K: it about?

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Aaron: to take some of these things I learned today about rule of

1:00:15

Aaron: three and Chekhov's gun.

1:00:17

Aaron: And, uh, I'm going to put three guns in this, uh, book.

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Adam K: Uh, you also have to remember to save the cart.

1:00:24

Aaron: Yeah.

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Adam K: Um.

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Aaron: Where is that?

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Aaron: Where is my save the Cat book?

1:00:29

Aaron: I used to have it in my bag all the time for fucking executives.

1:00:32

Aaron: That that brought it up.

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Aaron: I go, yeah, I read this book.

1:00:35

Aaron: Uh, it doesn't really apply to what you're saying.

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Aaron: And.

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Adam K: This,

1:00:39

Aaron: Yeah.

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Adam K: uh, softcore porno remake of The Avengers doesn't really adhere

1:00:45

Adam K: to those guidelines.

1:00:46

Aaron: Whose dick is in the tree.

1:00:48

Aaron: I'm confused.

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Adam K: Gerald Ford. Oh, wait.

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Adam K: No, sorry.

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Adam K: LBJ.

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Aaron: Mhm.

1:00:54

Adam K: Yeah. Anywho.

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Adam K: Uh, well, thanks for making the time for me, I appreciate it.

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Aaron: Yeah. You're

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Adam K: It's

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Aaron: welcome.

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Adam K: always, it's always good to hang out, you know, as friends.

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Aaron: Yeah. Well, um.

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Aaron: I'll, uh, I'll think about you

1:01:08

Aaron: as I'm on the university campus,

1:01:11

Aaron: and, uh, you know, everyone is

1:01:14

Aaron: looking at me wondering what PhD

1:01:16

Aaron: I'm trying to get, and I'll be

1:01:18

Aaron: like, um.

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Adam K: Say, or what student you're going to try to strangle.

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Aaron: Yeah, yeah, I try and like, it's

1:01:26

Aaron: when I am wearing like my last

1:01:28

Aaron: bit of laundry and I haven't

1:01:30

Aaron: shaved in a while and I'm like,

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Aaron: this is I'm gonna get called on

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Aaron: here.

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Adam K: Take a bath.

1:01:38

Aaron: Yeah.

1:01:38

Adam K: Alrighty.

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Adam K: Talk to you later.

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Aaron: All right.

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Aaron: Right.