August 4, 2026
S01:E23

August 4, 2026

Episode description

Tinder for the elderly, the AI debate continues and how to fix Duke Nukem.

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Adam K: All right.

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Adam K: How's it going?

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Aaron: Good. Good.

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Adam K: How's your day?

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Adam K: How's your week?

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Adam K: Seemed like a busy boy.

0:08

Aaron: Yeah. I've been, uh, staying up late the last couple of weeks.

0:15

Aaron: Finishing thing and.

0:18

Adam K: This is for your, uh.

0:21

Adam K: Was it like Tinder for old people?

0:22

Adam K: What is

0:22

Aaron: Tender

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Adam K: it?

0:23

Aaron: for old people.

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Aaron: Um, it's probably I, I think I'll have it online this week,

0:29

Aaron: this coming weekend.

0:30

Aaron: Um,

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Adam K: Mhm.

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Aaron: right now I'm just doing UI, UX

0:33

Aaron: stuff that is easier to do when

0:35

Aaron: it's local.

0:37

Aaron: And then, um, I'll push it online and watch as Russia and

0:42

Aaron: China hacks into it.

0:43

Adam K: Yeah. You gotta get fail to ban installed, and you can watch it

0:49

Adam K: in real time as all the bots try to knock at the front door.

0:52

Adam K: You should set up a honeypot while you're doing this.

0:56

Aaron: Well, that's

0:56

Adam K: Um,

0:56

Aaron: what all the users are going to be.

0:58

Adam K: yes.

1:00

Aaron: It's like it's like honey dust.

1:02

Adam K: Yeah, you're your password is

1:05

Adam K: also your social security

1:06

Adam K: number.

1:07

Adam K: And if it doesn't work, then just email support, which, uh,

1:12

Adam K: goes to a telegram channel.

1:15

Aaron: That's the other thing too.

1:16

Aaron: I have support, like, it'll have

1:19

Aaron: to be one of these services that

1:20

Aaron: have just kind of basic

1:21

Aaron: knowledge of how the thing

1:23

Aaron: works, because they're just odds

1:26

Aaron: and ends that have to be taken

1:27

Aaron: care of if it's going to be

1:29

Aaron: legitimate.

1:29

Aaron: One of those things is there's

1:32

Aaron: got to be some Bangladeshi, you

1:35

Aaron: know, person on the other end

1:36

Aaron: that can guide them or at least

1:38

Aaron: confuse them enough to where

1:39

Aaron: they give up and stop hassling

1:41

Aaron: me.

1:43

Aaron: So, yeah.

1:44

Adam K: The, the workforce of people who are currently on standby to

1:48

Adam K: control the robots in people's houses or in the VR headsets or

1:51

Adam K: driving the Waymo's will

1:53

Aaron: Mhm.

1:53

Adam K: be just moonlighting for you as well.

1:56

Adam K: So I'm excited for you to employ the workforce at thirty five

2:00

Adam K: cents an hour.

2:02

Aaron: I didn't realize it look like when we were talking about all

2:05

Aaron: the all these people across the world will be piloting these

2:09

Aaron: robots that are doing battle for their, their country's prestige

2:13

Aaron: and, and, you know, diplomatic reasons, like, no, no, no, it's

2:17

Aaron: these countries all over the world just manning robots inside

2:20

Aaron: of rich people's houses.

2:22

Aaron: And that's, that's what the future is.

2:26

Adam K: Well, when you go for fiction, you're supposed to like, you

2:30

Adam K: take it to its most extreme.

2:33

Adam K: You know, if we wanted to write

2:34

Adam K: a boring book, it would have

2:35

Adam K: been.

2:35

Adam K: Yeah, the you log in and you, uh, you control someone's robot

2:39

Adam K: and you burp a baby and change an old person's diaper.

2:42

Adam K: But that that wouldn't be a fun novel.

2:45

Aaron: Now I can make it good.

2:47

Adam K: Okay. I guess, I mean, we, I guess we do need to do a sequel

2:51

Adam K: at some point.

2:52

Adam K: Um.

2:53

Aaron: Uh, I'm working on my book right now.

2:57

Adam K: Yeah.

2:57

Aaron: That's the other thing I work on all the time.

3:00

Aaron: It takes all my time.

3:01

Adam K: Again, I can just feed it to

3:03

Adam K: Claude and say, write me a new

3:05

Adam K: book.

3:06

Adam K: Uh, there are some, some travel guide book or something

3:09

Aaron: Yeah,

3:09

Adam K: I saw on

3:09

Aaron: I

3:09

Adam K: Amazon.

3:09

Aaron: saw that.

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Adam K: Yeah. I love when the prompts are just in there, which is

3:14

Adam K: like, and then I don't know if you saw the, the YouTuber guy,

3:19

Adam K: something green, Hank Green.

3:21

Adam K: He like, I think he like read

3:22

Adam K: his prompt in his video and kept

3:24

Adam K: it in.

3:25

Adam K: It's just.

3:26

Aaron: Yeah, I see.

3:27

Aaron: I don't know if he's if he's one of those dudes that does just

3:30

Aaron: like Wikipedia documentaries or he's like one of the outdoors

3:33

Aaron: guys, I don't know, they all look the same.

3:35

Aaron: They're all white guys with beards

3:37

Adam K: Yeah.

3:37

Aaron: or just white nerd looking dudes.

3:39

Adam K: Yeah. But I think like him and his brother invented talking

3:41

Adam K: into a camera or something.

3:43

Aaron: Okay.

3:44

Adam K: Yeah.

3:44

Aaron: That's nice.

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Adam K: Yeah. They have a patent on that and they get paid every time.

3:49

Adam K: I don't know, I was again, I

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Adam K: called it when I did my dumb

3:53

Adam K: machinima slot video, but I was

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Adam K: talking about people who are

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Adam K: just burned out and they're

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Adam K: like, ah, fuck it, just use the

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Adam K: AI.

4:00

Adam K: And I'm like, I get it.

4:01

Adam K: If you're doing this as a job full time and you know, you can

4:07

Adam K: love pizza and ice cream all you want, but if that's all you're

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Adam K: eating, it's gonna get old.

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Adam K: It's gonna get tiring.

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Adam K: Um, and also just being on the

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Adam K: other side of it, just being

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Adam K: like, it is a, it's a content

4:17

Adam K: machine.

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Adam K: It's a farm.

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Adam K: There's no like you lose the love for it pretty quick.

4:22

Aaron: Mhm.

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Adam K: So I'm just like, yeah, I mean, not to excuse it.

4:25

Adam K: It's like, well, that's just lazy.

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Adam K: Or again, to like, I, I still stand by the fact it's like you

4:29

Adam K: can make stuff.

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Adam K: I use AI all the time for my video stuff, but it's like, it's

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Adam K: because I just don't want to Photoshop stuff anymore.

4:35

Aaron: Yeah.

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Adam K: Um, or it's like, oh, uh, before

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Adam K: I would animate this video by

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Adam K: keyframing it, blah, blah, blah,

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Adam K: blah, blah.

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Adam K: Instead, I can just like, okay,

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Adam K: this isn't, I wouldn't call this

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Adam K: art this, this crap that I'm

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Adam K: doing, but it's like again to,

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Adam K: it's just how you choose to use

4:51

Adam K: the tool.

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Adam K: And if you're just using it to

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Adam K: turn out crap for crap's sake, I

4:55

Adam K: get it.

4:55

Adam K: If people have like, their

4:57

Adam K: livelihood depends on you making

4:58

Adam K: a video about, you know, talking

5:00

Adam K: about missing chromosomes or

5:02

Adam K: whatever.

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Adam K: But, um.

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Aaron: The only I. I think it comes down to.

5:08

Aaron: And the only instances I've seen where it's caused problems is

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Aaron: when the writing is AI, when people like writing.

5:17

Aaron: I think at its core is, is the, the fountain of all creative.

5:23

Aaron: It's like it's what is the hook, the written piece.

5:26

Aaron: Though anyone will forgive

5:27

Aaron: anything else AI wise or like

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Aaron: synthetic wise, if the story,

5:33

Aaron: the writing is good, like

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Aaron: there's this, you know, uh, it's

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Aaron: this masterful storytelling on

5:40

Aaron: Instagram of this, uh, it's a

5:43

Aaron: J.D.

5:43

Aaron: Vance fat J.D.

5:44

Aaron: Vance, and he's always getting

5:46

Aaron: into shenanigans, and it's the

5:47

Aaron: worst AI slop, but they've made

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Aaron: a character And I enjoy watching

5:54

Aaron: it.

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Adam K: Yeah. And I think also it just same as before, it's like if

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Adam K: it's just entertainment for the sake of entertainment, I think

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Adam K: it's fine, but it's when it's trying to pass it off as

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Adam K: something holier than thou or it's, it's LARPing, as I guess

6:09

Adam K: like a writer, if you just be like, hey, I can't write like, I

6:12

Adam K: mean, I use it just because I'm pretty sure I'm dyslexic, but

6:16

Aaron: Yeah,

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Adam K: I

6:17

Aaron: you're.

6:17

Adam K: will write.

6:17

Adam K: I mean, you, we wrote a book together.

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Adam K: You saw my really fucked up, uh, thought process of how I would

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Adam K: write or rewrite it or whatever.

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Adam K: So it's like I barrel through now, which is nice.

6:29

Adam K: It frees up the, like the thought process.

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Adam K: And I, I mean, again, I'm still pretty disassociated or

6:34

Adam K: disconnected a lot of times, but like, I'll barrel through a

6:38

Adam K: script or a thing and then I'll feed it to the eye and go as I'm

6:41

Adam K: like, you're an editor, edit my stuff, clean it up.

6:45

Adam K: And then a lot of times I'll put stuff in there.

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Adam K: I'm like, I would never say that.

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Adam K: Like, that's you change the whole meaning of this, this,

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Adam K: this, this doesn't say anything.

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Adam K: It's like it can be used as a good tool, but it's like, yeah,

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Adam K: it has to come from somewhere.

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Adam K: It's got to start at a creative place.

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Adam K: But it's like if you're just

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Adam K: making a copy of a copy, then

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Adam K: it's going to, it's going to be

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Adam K: trash.

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Adam K: So I mean, again, nothing that I make is not trash, but,

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Aaron: Mhm.

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Adam K: um, just, uh, I, I have

7:11

Adam K: self-imposed deadlines and if I

7:14

Adam K: could hire someone, we did hire

7:16

Adam K: an editor.

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Adam K: I remember she was nice.

7:18

Aaron: Yeah. She's

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Adam K: We would

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Aaron: a hard

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Adam K: never

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Aaron: ass.

7:19

Aaron: And she was good.

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Adam K: yeah, she would send us those

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Adam K: really nice messages of like,

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Adam K: your

7:24

Aaron: Rebecca.

7:24

Adam K: guys's book.

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Adam K: She was great.

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Adam K: Yeah. She would, she would send stuff of like, this is so deep,

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Adam K: this thing that you wrote and we're like, is it?

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Adam K: I don't, I think I don't think we meant to do anything here,

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Adam K: but, um, thank you.

7:37

Adam K: Thank you so much.

7:38

Adam K: Here's, here's I'm sorry the check didn't clear.

7:40

Aaron: Mhm. Sorry we're late with everything.

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Adam K: That was that was the guy I hired on Fiverr for literally

7:48

Adam K: five dollars plus tax who edited my my Overwatch video.

7:52

Adam K: He sent it and I'm, I remember feeling that, uh, that sense of

7:56

Adam K: validation where he's like, you know, your, your gameplay videos

7:59

Adam K: were so good.

8:00

Adam K: I can't wait to edit more of these.

8:02

Adam K: It's like, thanks man.

8:03

Adam K: I'll totally owe you, motherfucker.

8:04

Aaron: Mhm.

8:05

Adam K: You're just a stripper.

8:06

Adam K: Stop it.

8:07

Aaron: Yeah.

8:08

Adam K: You're you're appealing to my ego.

8:11

Adam K: How dare you?

8:12

Aaron: I don't trust anyone who thinks what I do is good.

8:15

Aaron: And I never will.

8:17

Adam K: That's a very good point.

8:18

Adam K: I had a lot of fun editing that video, though, over the weekend.

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Aaron: Yeah, well, it was good.

8:22

Aaron: And as always, it it shows just how elevated you are at your

8:29

Aaron: craft, that you can put something together that dense

8:32

Aaron: with that much detail as relatively quickly as you do.

8:37

Adam K: Try to.

8:38

Adam K: It's that other thing, too.

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Adam K: I'm like, I do enjoy editing, I,

8:42

Adam K: I enjoy making that sort of

8:44

Adam K: stuff.

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Adam K: I always enjoyed it.

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Adam K: It was just once you.

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Adam K: You attach a deadline to it Or

8:49

Adam K: it's like you have this like

8:51

Adam K: sense of where it's like the

8:52

Adam K: thing all the Twitch streamers

8:54

Adam K: deal with.

8:54

Adam K: Like if they miss a day of streaming, they lose like half

8:56

Adam K: their income or something.

8:58

Aaron: Mhm.

8:58

Adam K: I don't know, it doesn't, it never made any sense to me.

9:01

Adam K: But it's, it's nice where it's at right now where I'm like,

9:05

Adam K: well, if I'm making something, I want to make it.

9:08

Adam K: Um, the only, the only

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Adam K: self-imposed deadline I ever now

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Adam K: is like, I try and this is just

9:13

Adam K: more for to keep me, I guess

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Adam K: somewhat sharp.

9:16

Adam K: I don't know, but it's like, do

9:18

Adam K: one blog post a week just as

9:20

Adam K: that's just doing reps, you

9:22

Adam K: know, it's, uh, it's walking to

9:25

Adam K: the gym.

9:25

Adam K: It's not even going into the gym.

9:30

Aaron: I don't know.

9:30

Aaron: I think it's going into the gym and doing one set of something

9:33

Aaron: and then stopping.

9:34

Adam K: Right.

9:35

Adam K: It's, it's the atomic habits,

9:38

Adam K: uh, guide to working out, which

9:40

Adam K: is just go in there, do one

9:41

Adam K: squat.

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Adam K: And it's like, well, at least you got here.

9:43

Adam K: And then while you're there, you might think to yourself, well,

9:47

Adam K: shit, I'm already here.

9:47

Adam K: I might as well maybe do something a little bit more.

9:51

Adam K: But yeah.

9:52

Aaron: Apparently fifty cent goes to my gym, but I haven't seen him yet.

9:57

Aaron: And, uh, I don't know.

10:00

Aaron: Every time there's like a group of black people in there, I, I'm

10:04

Aaron: staring at them and they probably think I'm staring at

10:06

Aaron: them for the reasons why white people usually stare at black

10:10

Aaron: people in the South.

10:11

Aaron: But I'm not.

10:12

Aaron: I'm there.

10:12

Aaron: I'm their ally.

10:13

Aaron: But also I'm just looking for

10:14

Aaron: fifty cent and I haven't seen

10:16

Aaron: him yet.

10:18

Adam K: As long as you don't have your phone out and you're asking

10:22

Adam K: questions a mile a minute at a high, high pitched tone, I think

10:25

Adam K: you'll be okay.

10:26

Aaron: No, I don't have my phone out, but I do yell across the gym,

10:29

Aaron: which one of y'all's fifty cent?

10:31

Aaron: And, uh, I usually don't have my glasses on or anything, so.

10:38

Adam K: Yeah.

10:39

Aaron: It's

10:39

Adam K: That's

10:39

Aaron: going alright,

10:40

Adam K: okay.

10:40

Aaron: I think they're.

10:41

Adam K: Yeah. Have

10:42

Aaron: Yeah.

10:42

Adam K: you have you thought about my

10:43

Adam K: proposal of getting your eyes

10:45

Adam K: fixed?

10:47

Aaron: Uh, I have thought about it,

10:49

Adam K: Yeah.

10:50

Aaron: and, uh, I forgot about it again.

10:52

Adam K: That's good.

10:53

Adam K: Don't.

10:53

Adam K: Don't do things I suggest for you.

10:56

Aaron: I've got other things I got to spend money on at the moment.

10:59

Adam K: I know.

11:01

Aaron: There's, like, so many things, and my eyes are so low on the

11:05

Aaron: list of priorities.

11:08

Adam K: Well, we're going to fix our

11:10

Adam K: teeth with some weird gel that

11:12

Adam K: we're going to start rubbing on

11:13

Adam K: ourselves.

11:14

Aaron: I've

11:14

Adam K: And then,

11:14

Aaron: been doing

11:14

Adam K: uh,

11:14

Aaron: that.

11:15

Aaron: Yeah,

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Adam K: um,

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Aaron: that I've actually been

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Adam K: with

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Aaron: doing.

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Adam K: that new AI video model, people

11:20

Adam K: are making new episodes of

11:21

Adam K: Seinfeld, and they're pretty

11:23

Adam K: unhinged.

11:24

Aaron: What?

11:25

Adam K: Uh. Well, so this thing I, I sent you some of those clips.

11:29

Adam K: I was like, fucking around with it.

11:30

Aaron: Yeah.

11:30

Adam K: Um, what's nice about this one?

11:33

Adam K: It's called mini Max H three.

11:35

Adam K: I think

11:35

Aaron: It's another minimax model.

11:37

Adam K: it's

11:37

Aaron: Minimax.

11:38

Adam K: an was that one I don't I'm not familiar with it.

11:41

Adam K: Um, I just, you know, it's

11:43

Adam K: always exciting when a new like

11:45

Adam K: tool comes out, you get to play

11:47

Adam K: with it.

11:47

Adam K: But

11:48

Aaron: Yeah.

11:48

Adam K: this one's open so you can

11:50

Adam K: download it and run it locally

11:51

Adam K: on

11:51

Aaron: What?

11:52

Adam K: your.

11:52

Adam K: Yeah.

11:53

Aaron: Well, there's there's no way you can.

11:54

Aaron: It probably takes for fucking ever, huh?

11:56

Adam K: So yes and no. I ran a couple

11:59

Adam K: tests today, so it's really good

12:02

Adam K: at animation.

12:03

Adam K: And this is

12:04

Aaron: Yeah.

12:04

Adam K: this is one of those things that like, I mean, again, I know

12:08

Adam K: there's like the sanctity of animation, but then I'm like,

12:12

Adam K: well, how this is, this has been going on for a while where you

12:15

Adam K: have artists drawing the scene and then they send it to Korea,

12:20

Aaron: Right.

12:21

Adam K: which in this is now just the AI, I guess

12:24

Aaron: Simpsons.

12:24

Adam K: in this.

12:25

Aaron: Yeah.

12:26

Adam K: Yes, basically.

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Adam K: And then that animation is sent back and then it's cleaned up by

12:32

Adam K: someone who makes two hundred grand a year, um,

12:35

Aaron: Yeah.

12:35

Adam K: until they're, you know, let go.

12:37

Adam K: But so like, I never thought it

12:40

Adam K: was like a, you know, a

12:42

Adam K: prestigious line of work to

12:44

Adam K: begin with.

12:45

Adam K: And I'm not a fan of putting, you know, animators out of work.

12:49

Adam K: Um, we, we live, we live seeing that for years.

12:54

Adam K: Um.

12:55

Aaron: Two hundred thousand dollars.

12:56

Aaron: That's them working for twenty years.

12:58

Adam K: Well, yeah, I was talking more

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Adam K: of like someone at like a Disney

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Adam K: or maybe Warner Brothers, I

13:03

Adam K: don't know.

13:03

Adam K: Either way it

13:04

Aaron: Yeah.

13:04

Adam K: again.

13:05

Adam K: Artists and animators are, I believe, the unsung heroes of

13:10

Adam K: the entertainment industry.

13:11

Adam K: And they're just no one treats

13:13

Adam K: them the way they should be

13:14

Adam K: treated.

13:14

Adam K: Same with like 3D artists and animation.

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Adam K: Any.

13:17

Adam K: Anyway, what

13:18

Aaron: Yeah.

13:18

Adam K: I what excites me about this is somebody who.

13:25

Adam K: Like they could basically come

13:27

Adam K: up with their own art style, and

13:28

Adam K: then they can animate their own

13:30

Adam K: thing and put out their own

13:31

Adam K: movie.

13:32

Adam K: And

13:32

Aaron: Mhm.

13:32

Adam K: so it's, it's like they couldn't afford to hire the, the Korean

13:36

Adam K: animators to begin with.

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Adam K: Like, that's a cool idea.

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Adam K: But the problem is AI is just been so bastardized and sullied.

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Adam K: It's just like, I imagine if you

13:49

Adam K: try to convince any kind of like

13:52

Adam K: independent artist or animator

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Adam K: to like, do their own thing,

13:55

Adam K: they'd be like, well, no, it's

13:56

Adam K: AI.

13:57

Adam K: AI is evil and I will kill you now.

13:58

Adam K: So probably won't happen.

14:00

Adam K: But a man can dream.

14:03

Aaron: I was asking you.

14:04

Aaron: Well, I agree with all this, but

14:05

Aaron: I was asked about what kind of

14:07

Aaron: processing this thing takes on

14:10

Aaron: your machine.

14:11

Aaron: And if it's difficult, is it I

14:14

Aaron: mean, is it is it killing your

14:16

Aaron: RTX three thousand ninety or

14:18

Aaron: whatever you.

14:18

Aaron: I don't know what you have.

14:19

Adam K: I got thirty nine.

14:20

Adam K: Yeah, I got, I got my twenty four gigs.

14:22

Adam K: I, I got in at the right at the cutoff point I, I up,

14:26

Aaron: I.

14:26

Adam K: I got one hundred and twenty eight gigs of Ddr5 ram in there

14:31

Adam K: before the prices shot up.

14:32

Adam K: I don't know why I just some Nostradamus ink.

14:37

Adam K: That's my spider sense.

14:38

Adam K: Just like, hey, when prices are

14:39

Adam K: going to go up, you should buy

14:40

Adam K: this shit.

14:41

Adam K: Um but no I, so I ran one test

14:44

Adam K: at like low res and it was like,

14:48

Adam K: I think like three sixty P or

14:50

Adam K: something like

14:50

Aaron: Yeah.

14:50

Adam K: that.

14:51

Adam K: That only took like seven minutes for a five second scene.

14:54

Aaron: Really.

14:54

Adam K: Yeah. And it's pretty good.

14:57

Adam K: It's just blurry.

14:58

Adam K: It's not great.

14:59

Aaron: So

14:59

Adam K: So.

14:59

Aaron: basically this is going to be HD in a year.

15:03

Adam K: Well, so I did, I ran an HD test.

15:05

Adam K: I got it in ten eighty and it took forty minutes

15:08

Aaron: Okay.

15:08

Adam K: and it added extra artifacts and did all this other stuff.

15:11

Adam K: But I'm like, I'm just doing,

15:15

Adam K: I'm working on something that's

15:16

Adam K: like, yeah, this is kind of just

15:17

Adam K: for me.

15:18

Adam K: I don't know, I want to mess around with it just to see if I

15:20

Adam K: could do this.

15:21

Adam K: But, um, yeah, you can also just run it on a cloud server, you

15:27

Adam K: know, someone else's gear and it will kick out a 1080p animated

15:30

Adam K: scene in no time.

15:32

Aaron: Oh. So yeah, you run it on uh.

15:35

Aaron: Oh yeah.

15:36

Aaron: Name one.

15:37

Aaron: Okay.

15:37

Aaron: You

15:37

Adam K: Run

15:37

Aaron: could deploy

15:38

Adam K: pod

15:38

Aaron: it basically.

15:38

Adam K: or

15:38

Aaron: Yeah,

15:38

Adam K: yeah, anything

15:39

Aaron: yeah.

15:39

Adam K: like that so that it's exciting

15:42

Adam K: just because I'm like, oh, cool,

15:43

Adam K: this democratizes people's

15:46

Adam K: workflows.

15:47

Adam K: But again, it's, I know the, the

15:50

Adam K: stink that AI has attached to it

15:53

Adam K: and just all the like, obviously

15:55

Adam K: the stuff was trained on

15:55

Adam K: people's work.

15:56

Adam K: Um, I saw the thing where people

15:58

Adam K: authors are suing, was it, uh,

16:00

Adam K: anthropic?

16:01

Adam K: And I was like, oh, maybe we can get in on that.

16:04

Adam K: And then we

16:04

Aaron: Get

16:04

Adam K: look

16:05

Aaron: our

16:05

Adam K: and

16:06

Aaron: settlement.

16:07

Adam K: I was going to say, we, we look

16:08

Adam K: into it and they're like, we try

16:10

Adam K: to sue them, but they say, no,

16:11

Adam K: we, we actively did not scan

16:13

Adam K: your book.

16:14

Adam K: We

16:14

Aaron: Mhm.

16:14

Adam K: didn't we didn't want anything

16:16

Aaron: We

16:16

Adam K: to

16:16

Aaron: already

16:16

Adam K: do with

16:17

Aaron: had

16:17

Adam K: it.

16:17

Aaron: AI developed to to know what are bad books to skip.

16:22

Aaron: That was the first thing that we found.

16:25

Adam K: That was that was an old SNL sketch where it's all the

16:29

Adam K: artists suing Napster.

16:30

Adam K: And it was just an excuse for

16:31

Adam K: people to do impressions of

16:32

Adam K: artists.

16:33

Adam K: And Conan O'Brien is playing right, said Fred.

16:36

Adam K: And then the judge goes, uh, well, according to our records,

16:39

Adam K: your song I'm Too Sexy has been downloaded exactly zero times.

16:44

Adam K: He's like.

16:45

Adam K: He's like, okay.

16:45

Adam K: Was it like a sandwich or something?

16:47

Adam K: I can get here.

16:49

Adam K: Uh, anyway.

16:51

Adam K: Nothing's original.

16:52

Adam K: We're just circling the drain.

16:55

Aaron: Can you?

16:57

Aaron: How so?

16:58

Aaron: When?

16:58

Aaron: So you ran it locally.

17:00

Aaron: How did you use the.

17:01

Aaron: Was there a UI for it?

17:03

Adam K: Yeah. He's comfy.

17:03

Adam K: UI

17:04

Aaron: Okay.

17:04

Adam K: that I hate that that's sort of become the, the standard because

17:10

Adam K: it's all those nodes.

17:11

Adam K: It's the spaghetti thing.

17:12

Adam K: And it's, it's, it's hard to keep up with it.

17:16

Adam K: And I, I, so I kind of fall out of favor with it typically, but,

17:21

Adam K: uh, people will make workflows that are easier, you know, to,

17:25

Adam K: to follow sometimes.

17:26

Adam K: But then some people are like, I made a free thing and you look

17:29

Adam K: at it and it's just, it looks like Spider-Man just splurged

17:32

Adam K: all over your screen.

17:33

Aaron: Yeah.

17:34

Adam K: So I don't know.

17:36

Adam K: But yeah, so the workflow, I was actually just doing this right

17:39

Adam K: before we jumped on here.

17:41

Adam K: Um, which so someone came up

17:45

Adam K: with an idea of, I guess they

17:46

Adam K: didn't come up with this idea,

17:47

Adam K: but you use minimax for the

17:49

Adam K: animation, which it does great

17:50

Adam K: animation and like pretty

17:53

Adam K: passable stuff.

17:54

Adam K: And you do it at a low resolution and then you upscale

17:56

Adam K: it with another video model, which will go much faster.

17:59

Adam K: And it's supposed to increase your.

18:01

Aaron: Topaz or whatever.

18:03

Adam K: Uh, the well, there's like light

18:05

Adam K: and there's wan or something

18:07

Adam K: like that.

18:08

Adam K: Um, again, like I'm always just looking at this stuff from

18:11

Adam K: usually from afar.

18:13

Adam K: And then every once in a while I'll, I'll like, all right, I'll

18:15

Adam K: download eighty gigs worth of checkpoints and models and, and

18:19

Adam K: give it a try once and then forget about it.

18:22

Adam K: But um, yeah, I'm gonna try up raising it and just see again,

18:26

Adam K: just testing all this stuff just to see what you can do with it.

18:29

Adam K: But man, if you can just start animating, having your stuff

18:33

Adam K: like animated, like the dumb, shitty stuff that I'm doing,

18:35

Adam K: like, yeah, that would save me fifty bucks every few months

18:38

Adam K: that I keep giving to the, the comfy UI subscription plan.

18:43

Adam K: That would be nice.

18:44

Aaron: And really, again, if you have a

18:47

Aaron: good script, like something that

18:50

Aaron: is engaging and is interesting

18:53

Aaron: and it's ultimately the writing

18:54

Aaron: is good.

18:56

Aaron: It, it, it's okay.

18:58

Aaron: Like it's fine.

18:58

Aaron: Like people, I think they forget about that shit.

19:01

Aaron: It's when it's just lazy when it's a prop, God damn it.

19:08

Aaron: Mika brought home this like this

19:11

Aaron: oil diffuser and it's just been

19:12

Aaron: killing my.

19:13

Adam K: Oh,

19:14

Aaron: Yeah.

19:14

Adam K: they're going to say like, she,

19:15

Adam K: she had a conference in Michigan

19:18

Adam K: and came back with a bunch of

19:19

Adam K: iceberg lettuce.

19:20

Adam K: And it's just, it's the worst.

19:23

Aaron: No, there's none of that.

19:25

Aaron: There's.

19:25

Adam K: Yeah.

19:25

Aaron: We. We avoid most.

19:27

Aaron: We're into cabbage mostly here.

19:30

Aaron: Kimchi.

19:31

Aaron: Cabbage.

19:32

Aaron: But.

19:33

Adam K: I only eat salad that comes in a big tub of plastic.

19:37

Adam K: Hey, I need to run real quick.

19:38

Adam K: Be right back.

19:39

Adam K: Just need to grab.

19:39

Adam K: Get something out of the oven.

19:41

Adam K: Give me

19:42

Aaron: Watch

19:42

Adam K: two

19:42

Aaron: this.

19:42

Adam K: seconds.

19:43

Aaron: Watch this Seinfeld episode.

19:45

Aaron: Let's

19:45

Adam K: Keep

19:45

Aaron: see

19:45

Adam K: talking.

19:46

Aaron: the mini max.

19:49

Aaron: Oh, sick.

19:54

Aaron: Maybe we're just doomed to watch

19:57

Aaron: Seinfeld reruns until we all

20:00

Aaron: fucking die.

20:01

Aaron: Oh my God.

20:05

Aaron: You know, if anyone's going to make money from

20:08

Adam K: I don't edit these

20:09

Aaron: all

20:09

Adam K: things.

20:10

Aaron: of this Seinfeld shit, I.

20:12

Adam K: Did you watch it yet?

20:14

Aaron: I'm watching this one.

20:15

Aaron: Someone like they it says their

20:18

Aaron: own script from the early two

20:20

Aaron: thousand.

20:20

Aaron: And they used mini max to, um, to put it together.

20:24

Aaron: And it looks like the first three minutes of an episode.

20:29

Adam K: Yeah.

20:29

Aaron: And I'm just thinking like, is

20:32

Aaron: Seinfeld and his and his

20:35

Aaron: offspring.

20:36

Aaron: Are they just going to make billions of dollars until the

20:39

Aaron: end of time?

20:40

Aaron: Because all there is is Seinfeld to watch.

20:42

Aaron: It just keeps getting bought and

20:45

Aaron: redistributed forever and ever

20:47

Aaron: and ever.

20:48

Aaron: Like this this nineties show

20:50

Aaron: that's like, really there were

20:53

Aaron: like three, okay, there's like

20:56

Aaron: four good seasons of this

20:57

Aaron: because the first two or three

20:59

Aaron: are like, what the fuck is going

21:00

Aaron: on here?

21:01

Aaron: This is slow.

21:01

Aaron: And, and the first season was like four episodes.

21:03

Aaron: But like, I Seinfeld's fine.

21:07

Aaron: It's, it's, it's good, but it can't be the only content for

21:12

Aaron: until the end of time.

21:14

Aaron: And I think that's what's happening.

21:16

Adam K: It feels that way.

21:17

Adam K: But with this stuff, people, what they're doing is it's it's

21:23

Adam K: completely open and free.

21:25

Adam K: So again, it's stolen content.

21:28

Aaron: Yeah.

21:28

Adam K: So but then it doesn't matter

21:31

Adam K: because people still stream

21:33

Adam K: stuff.

21:33

Adam K: People still rent DVDs from Redbox like

21:36

Aaron: Spider-Man

21:36

Adam K: there were,

21:37

Aaron: just made a trillion dollars

21:38

Adam K: right?

21:38

Aaron: over the weekend.

21:39

Adam K: Yeah. And I guarantee that's on some pirated website you can

21:45

Adam K: watch right now with someone laughing during the entire

21:47

Adam K: movie, sitting in front of you, and probably like a gambling URL

21:50

Adam K: in the bottom left corner, but people are still going to pay

21:54

Adam K: for stuff regardless.

21:56

Adam K: It's there's that barrier to

21:57

Adam K: entry of like the whole thing

22:00

Adam K: was if you make something more

22:01

Adam K: convenient than Napster and you

22:02

Adam K: hide it from Google search

22:03

Adam K: results, people are going to pay

22:05

Adam K: for it.

22:06

Adam K: So yeah, people can make these

22:08

Adam K: AI slop Seinfeld videos until

22:10

Adam K: the end of time, but they they

22:12

Adam K: won't hurt Jerry's bank account

22:15

Adam K: at all.

22:17

Aaron: Now, and he'll continue to think that Palestine doesn't exist.

22:23

Adam K: What's the deal with Palestine?

22:26

Aaron: What's the deal with the forsaken people?

22:30

Adam K: Yeah, much like a lot of comedians.

22:34

Adam K: I'm great at not reading the room, too, so.

22:39

Aaron: It's the ultimate expression of fuck you money.

22:42

Aaron: It's really it's it's, uh, genocide.

22:45

Aaron: Money is

22:45

Adam K: Oh.

22:46

Aaron: what you.

22:46

Aaron: That's the elevated version of fuck you money.

22:49

Aaron: It's it's mass genocide.

22:55

Aaron: Sorry.

22:55

Adam K: You're.

22:55

Aaron: I'm looking at this this model.

22:57

Aaron: I'm trying to see if it's censored or not.

23:03

Adam K: Wait, you're using it?

23:05

Aaron: No. Well, I'm trying to find some site that that hosts it and

23:11

Aaron: some rapper that's, you know, so I don't have to deal with comfy

23:15

Aaron: right now, but I'll just deal with this later.

23:17

Adam K: Yeah. I found the best way to test this stuff is you.

23:22

Adam K: You just give.

23:23

Adam K: You just buy credits on comfy.

23:25

Adam K: They have like a cloud version.

23:26

Aaron: Yeah.

23:26

Adam K: And then you can download workflows that use API access

23:30

Adam K: and it just connects that way.

23:32

Adam K: And then that way you can just you run it on some other server,

23:35

Adam K: you know, you, you can, I think they have like a meter that

23:38

Adam K: shows the water draining from their local neighborhood.

23:43

Aaron: Nice.

23:44

Adam K: It shows the amount of children you killed, um, with your, your

23:48

Adam K: AI generated video.

23:49

Adam K: But um, with that, yes, you can make your own Seinfeld videos.

23:55

Adam K: I just remember what was it, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty

23:59

Adam K: when you were trying to make your evil Star Trek video?

24:02

Aaron: That was, uh, twenty eighteen.

24:04

Adam K: Yeah, I still, I think I have that somewhere.

24:08

Aaron: I just can't like, I don't like

24:12

Aaron: saying that I'm a visionary and

24:14

Aaron: I'm ahead of my time genius and

24:15

Aaron: all that other stuff, but

24:16

Aaron: really, I all those things were

24:19

Aaron: true.

24:20

Aaron: I was developing this thing before with technology that was

24:25

Aaron: so, so infantile.

24:28

Aaron: If I had only waited eight years.

24:34

Adam K: But you've you've kind of had

24:36

Adam K: your finger somewhat on the

24:37

Adam K: pulse.

24:38

Adam K: Like I wasn't following any of the deep fake stuff

24:41

Aaron: Mhm.

24:41

Adam K: at all.

24:42

Adam K: Um, and you were like on top of it and you're like it only with

24:47

Adam K: all this work that I do, after two weeks, I get two point five

24:52

Adam K: seconds of content.

24:53

Adam K: I was like, this is dumb.

24:54

Aaron: Crazy for a little while.

24:56

Adam K: Yeah.

24:57

Aaron: It was, uh, really, Covid was such a saving grace because it

25:01

Aaron: kind of masked this deep spiral I was going into.

25:06

Aaron: And and once everyone else was

25:08

Aaron: in a spiral, you don't stand out

25:10

Aaron: as much.

25:10

Aaron: And then as everyone kind of

25:13

Aaron: stayed in it, I lifted out of

25:14

Aaron: it.

25:15

Aaron: So.

25:16

Adam K: It's just funny.

25:17

Adam K: Like, because like when Stable Diffusion was at one point five

25:21

Adam K: came out and I was like, oh, what is this?

25:22

Adam K: This is cool.

25:23

Adam K: Like you and I were messing with it and we didn't know how to use

25:26

Adam K: any of the settings.

25:26

Adam K: I think we try to make like Clint Eastwood doing something

25:29

Adam K: or we made some like Budweiser ad is just utter shit images and

25:34

Adam K: we're laughing like, hahaha.

25:35

Adam K: And then like that stuff.

25:38

Adam K: That was four years ago,

25:40

Aaron: Yeah.

25:40

Adam K: roughly.

25:41

Adam K: And it's just insane to see like how fast it's progressed.

25:47

Adam K: But again, too, it's like if

25:48

Adam K: you're not following it week to

25:50

Adam K: week, it it is, it just becomes

25:52

Adam K: like whiplash.

25:52

Adam K: So it's just funny to think like

25:54

Adam K: starting with this tool, trying

25:56

Adam K: to do like a deepfake face

25:57

Adam K: transfer.

25:58

Adam K: Now it's like, well, Google made

25:59

Adam K: a model that can just swap it

26:03

Adam K: out for you and it's more

26:04

Adam K: perfect than anything you could

26:06

Adam K: ever do.

26:07

Adam K: Uh, with all the after effects

26:08

Adam K: classes you could take in the

26:10

Adam K: world.

26:11

Aaron: Yeah.

26:11

Adam K: So it

26:12

Aaron: Well,

26:12

Adam K: really makes you feel like shit.

26:13

Aaron: yeah.

26:15

Aaron: That's good.

26:16

Aaron: I think maybe there is some

26:17

Aaron: validity to being a, an Indian

26:21

Aaron: robot operator.

26:23

Aaron: And maybe ethically it's not bad.

26:25

Aaron: What if it if it's giving jobs

26:27

Aaron: to people who normally wouldn't

26:30

Aaron: have jobs, provided they have an

26:31

Aaron: internet connection and

26:32

Aaron: electricity, which they don't

26:34

Aaron: always have.

26:34

Aaron: But, um, like I'm thinking

26:37

Aaron: about, so I have friends who do

26:39

Aaron: therapy and they get the cheap

26:41

Aaron: therapy that it's, uh, it's

26:43

Aaron: mostly Indian therapists that,

26:46

Aaron: uh, you know, so they have to

26:48

Aaron: have their therapy sessions at

26:49

Aaron: like nine p m at night and

26:50

Aaron: stuff.

26:51

Aaron: But like, but, uh, it's giving all these jobs to, to people,

26:56

Aaron: you know, it's a great, uh, there's equitable, uh, equitable

27:01

Aaron: jobs for people, uh, that weren't there before.

27:06

Aaron: And if that also applies to

27:09

Aaron: slave robots that, you know,

27:11

Aaron: wander around the house and

27:14

Aaron: really there's getting Intel on

27:15

Aaron: you.

27:15

Aaron: But if they, like, do the dishes and all that stuff and it opens

27:18

Aaron: up jobs and who cares?

27:21

Adam K: Is your thought.

27:21

Adam K: If you start thinking and

27:23

Adam K: talking like a billionaire, that

27:24

Adam K: they will accept you as their

27:26

Adam K: own.

27:27

Aaron: Uh, well, one of the things I

27:28

Aaron: learned from this Indian

27:29

Aaron: therapist is that you need to

27:31

Aaron: manifest.

27:33

Aaron: And so really, and she, she didn't realize that manifesting

27:38

Aaron: that I turn it into a thing that would trap her people forever.

27:42

Aaron: And it's weird, like, you know, that's the twist in the story.

27:45

Aaron: So I'm manifesting having robots

27:49

Aaron: that are powered by unemployed

27:52

Aaron: Indian therapists.

27:56

Aaron: Yeah.

27:57

Aaron: I'm just sorry.

27:58

Aaron: I'm I'm digging through these Seinfeld clips still.

28:02

Adam K: You see the one where he's.

28:03

Adam K: He swole.

28:04

Adam K: They're all swole.

28:05

Aaron: Yeah.

28:06

Adam K: And I it got a laugh out of me just because the joke was Jerry

28:10

Adam K: Seinfeld, I think Elaine says, like I ripped the phone book

28:13

Adam K: apart this morning.

28:14

Adam K: Jerry goes, how'd you find a phone book?

28:17

Adam K: I was like, that.

28:18

Adam K: Got

28:18

Aaron: Yeah.

28:18

Adam K: a chuckle out of me

28:19

Aaron: That

28:19

Adam K: that

28:19

Aaron: minutia.

28:20

Aaron: Yeah.

28:20

Adam K: I like.

28:21

Adam K: It threw me off.

28:22

Adam K: I was like, shit, I just laughed at this completely fake thing.

28:27

Adam K: Well, I don't know.

28:28

Adam K: I get sent stuff all the time

28:29

Adam K: where it's very clearly fake and

28:32

Adam K: staged and I that's hard for me

28:35

Adam K: to enjoy.

28:36

Adam K: Like someone's like, uh, look at this prank I played on my son

28:42

Adam K: and it's someone watching, you know, the film three hundred and

28:46

Adam K: it's, it's clearly staged.

28:48

Adam K: And I'm just like, well, that takes me out of it.

28:50

Adam K: But for whatever reason, that Seinfeld Swoll Seinfeld thing

28:56

Adam K: got a laugh out of me, maybe because it didn't feel staged.

28:59

Aaron: Maybe ultimately, because it's

29:00

Aaron: such a simple world that we're

29:03

Aaron: so familiar with that it's just

29:06

Aaron: easier.

29:06

Aaron: Like there's nothing there's no backstory really.

29:10

Aaron: There's no like anything complicated.

29:13

Aaron: It's ripe in its, in its

29:14

Aaron: simplicity for, you know, you

29:17

Aaron: just

29:17

Adam K: Yeah.

29:17

Aaron: throw any kind of situation in there.

29:21

Adam K: Yeah, I, I. It's every time I know we, we send these clips

29:27

Adam K: back and forth and it's like, I feel like you and I have got a

29:30

Adam K: pretty good read on things typically, but more and more

29:34

Adam K: it's been popping up where you're like, is this real?

29:36

Adam K: I don't know.

29:37

Aaron: I know.

29:38

Adam K: Yeah. Um, you so you know, that

29:41

Adam K: that shot I used in my video of

29:43

Adam K: Mitch McConnell licking his

29:44

Adam K: lips,

29:44

Aaron: Yeah.

29:45

Adam K: that was entirely by hand.

29:49

Adam K: No AI was used in that.

29:51

Adam K: I

29:51

Aaron: See

29:51

Adam K: was very.

29:51

Aaron: who says.

29:52

Aaron: Who says that?

29:52

Aaron: They're still not crass people in the world.

29:55

Adam K: Uh, it was one of those things

29:56

Adam K: where it was simpler because for

29:58

Adam K: whatever reason, on envato, they

30:01

Adam K: had these keyed out lips licking

30:04

Adam K: themselves.

30:05

Adam K: And Adobe makes it pretty easy to match color on.

30:10

Adam K: You know, someone's like blue lower face, but.

30:14

Aaron: Very blue.

30:14

Aaron: Purple outlined lips.

30:16

Adam K: Yeah. Turtle face.

30:19

Adam K: Um, I have been seeing the videos of him, of using minimax

30:23

Adam K: of their popping up, of Mitch McConnell be like, I'm fine.

30:26

Adam K: And then he just stares into the camera.

30:30

Adam K: Uh, but again, it's all just disinformation and we're all

30:32

Adam K: going to be fooled by it.

30:33

Adam K: And it doesn't matter because

30:36

Adam K: we'll just keep scrolling

30:36

Adam K: through TikTok.

30:37

Adam K: I'm, I'm not trying to be negative here.

30:41

Adam K: Please don't take that.

30:42

Adam K: Take that away from this conversation.

30:46

Adam K: I'm talking to my Indian AI therapist.

30:50

Aaron: This lady is super nice.

30:51

Aaron: I mean, she's not my therapist,

30:53

Aaron: but I've been like, I've, I, uh,

30:54

Aaron: I sat in one time to, you know,

30:58

Aaron: mostly just to complain, but,

31:01

Aaron: uh,

31:01

Adam K: The.

31:01

Aaron: from the few seconds I was there, it was nice.

31:04

Adam K: The thing that I always I read,

31:06

Adam K: you know, you see like Reddit

31:07

Adam K: comments or people writing an

31:08

Adam K: article about how AI is like

31:10

Adam K: sycophantic or whatever, how it

31:11

Adam K: just keeps telling you how good

31:12

Adam K: you are.

31:14

Adam K: I don't know how you are with

31:15

Adam K: that, but like, I hate that

31:16

Adam K: shit.

31:17

Adam K: Like if it, if it tries to like, praise me?

31:20

Adam K: I'm like, stop it or I don't believe it.

31:23

Adam K: So I don't think I've had that effect where I'm like, this chat

31:26

Adam K: bots, my best friend.

31:28

Adam K: I've always seen it as just a little, you know, worker bee.

31:31

Aaron: Really well.

31:32

Aaron: The problem is, is it was all trained on Reddit.

31:35

Aaron: So you're that's what you're

31:37

Aaron: going to get forever is you're

31:39

Aaron: just going to get like flimsy,

31:41

Aaron: weak gaslighting, gaslighting,

31:44

Aaron: but also subservient, uh, with

31:48

Aaron: like a little layer of

31:49

Aaron: aggression underneath

31:50

Adam K: Yeah.

31:51

Aaron: because it was all trained on Reddit.

31:52

Aaron: That's why I was thinking today.

31:54

Aaron: It almost, it does make sense why someone like an Elon Musk or

32:00

Aaron: whoever wants to train like a grok or something, because

32:04

Aaron: you're like, okay, I get it.

32:06

Aaron: He's trying to create a because if if all AI is just a Redditor,

32:13

Aaron: then we're in serious trouble.

32:15

Aaron: Not because like of the the progressiveness or liberalness.

32:19

Aaron: That's all fine.

32:20

Aaron: It's just Redditors are

32:21

Aaron: insufferable, terrible people

32:25

Aaron: and

32:25

Adam K: Yeah.

32:25

Aaron: you need some balance for that.

32:27

Aaron: But the balance, unfortunately,

32:29

Aaron: are funny, quick witted, racist

32:32

Aaron: trolls.

32:34

Adam K: I was going to say Twitter users or

32:36

Aaron: Yeah.

32:36

Adam K: fortune users.

32:38

Adam K: I yeah, I don't know.

32:39

Adam K: I always just go back to the,

32:41

Adam K: the part where I'm like, I, I

32:43

Adam K: think less human interaction

32:44

Adam K: might be better for a lot of us

32:47

Adam K: maybe.

32:47

Aaron: No, it's already going down.

32:49

Aaron: I think that's how we got here.

32:50

Adam K: Oh yeah.

32:51

Adam K: Well, when it's all artificial though, when you're, you're

32:54

Adam K: having arguments with a stranger halfway across the world who may

32:57

Adam K: or may not be real.

32:59

Adam K: Uh, I feel like that does something to the psyche.

33:02

Adam K: It you lose nuance and then you

33:05

Adam K: just you have people being

33:07

Adam K: weirdos.

33:09

Aaron: We need more.

33:10

Aaron: Third spaces is what we need.

33:12

Adam K: What's

33:13

Aaron: But

33:13

Adam K: a third

33:13

Aaron: unfortunately,

33:13

Adam K: space?

33:14

Aaron: third space is where it's like a place that you can hang out and

33:17

Aaron: either spend no money or not very much money.

33:21

Aaron: A bowling alley used to be kind of like that for bowling alleys.

33:24

Aaron: Got expensive or like technically a shopping mall or,

33:28

Aaron: you know, uh, a public park would be it, but, you know, like

33:32

Aaron: indoor spaces as well.

33:34

Aaron: And the disappearance of those is one theory of leading to like

33:39

Aaron: the, the isolationism that people are experiencing now and

33:43

Adam K: MM.

33:43

Aaron: the lack of community.

33:45

Aaron: But, uh, really in America, the more third spaces that you

33:48

Aaron: create, the more mass shootings.

33:50

Aaron: But,

33:51

Adam K: MM.

33:52

Aaron: you know, whatever.

33:55

Adam K: I'm getting buzz on your end.

33:56

Adam K: Are you?

33:56

Adam K: Is your phone next to your microphone?

33:59

Aaron: You still hear it.

34:00

Adam K: It comes in now usually when you're talking.

34:03

Aaron: I'm just.

34:04

Aaron: I'm buzzing.

34:05

Aaron: Oh.

34:05

Adam K: Yeah. It's fine.

34:07

Adam K: Maybe if you hung out in your

34:09

Adam K: third space more often, but also

34:12

Adam K: like.

34:13

Adam K: So your first place and your second place is your house.

34:18

Aaron: No. My second place is the university.

34:22

Adam K: All right.

34:23

Adam K: That's.

34:23

Aaron: My third place is the university Bar.

34:30

Aaron: That.

34:30

Aaron: And that's only because the beer is cheap.

34:32

Aaron: It's not like I'm hanging out there like, hey, what are you

34:35

Aaron: what are you studying?

34:36

Aaron: And they're like, get away, old man.

34:39

Adam K: You know, back in my day, books cost eighty dollars instead of

34:44

Adam K: one hundred and twenty.

34:45

Aaron: Back in my day, books had nudies in them.

34:50

Aaron: We just read the Nudies.

34:51

Adam K: Well, for me, then my first and second place.

34:54

Adam K: And I guess sometimes my third place is my house.

34:58

Aaron: Yeah. No. That's true.

34:59

Adam K: Like, my first place is the right side of my desk, which is

35:02

Adam K: where I work all day.

35:04

Adam K: And then my second place is the left side of my desk where I

35:06

Adam K: play video games.

35:08

Adam K: And then my third place is probably the couch where I watch

35:13

Adam K: Seinfeld I videos.

35:17

Aaron: That reminds me.

35:17

Aaron: I need to, uh.

35:19

Aaron: I need to go do some work, uh, right

35:23

Adam K: Real

35:23

Aaron: now,

35:23

Adam K: or fake work?

35:25

Aaron: uh, some some work that's, uh,

35:29

Aaron: about nothing is what I need to

35:31

Aaron: do.

35:32

Adam K: Well, let

35:32

Aaron: I

35:32

Adam K: me

35:32

Aaron: need.

35:32

Adam K: I want to I wanted to get your thoughts on this real question

35:35

Adam K: because I was

35:35

Aaron: Okay.

35:36

Adam K: sending you some of those AI like animated scene things and

35:40

Adam K: like they're all parts from, you know, a book we wrote.

35:46

Aaron: Yeah.

35:47

Adam K: If we were able to hire an artist, a real life artist and

35:53

Adam K: ensure they're not using AI.

35:55

Adam K: Um, and we can have them, we commission them to draw scenes

36:01

Adam K: from, from the book.

36:03

Aaron: Yeah.

36:03

Adam K: And then I go and then again,

36:06

Adam K: pay an original artist to do

36:07

Adam K: this stuff.

36:08

Adam K: And then I feed those images

36:09

Adam K: into this animator thing to make

36:11

Adam K: like a book trailer that we just

36:12

Adam K: put on the Amazon page or the

36:13

Adam K: website.

36:14

Adam K: Is that ethical or is that is there a problem there?

36:17

Aaron: I think it's okay if you.

36:20

Aaron: Because essentially what you're asking for are storyboards and

36:24

Adam K: Mhm.

36:24

Aaron: you're saying if you are just

36:27

Aaron: completely transparent with it,

36:29

Aaron: then you're going to get plenty

36:31

Aaron: of people who are like, no, fuck

36:33

Aaron: this.

36:33

Aaron: Like I, you know, pay me to animate.

36:35

Aaron: But if you're like, look, I can't pay you to animate, but I

36:37

Aaron: can pay you for the storyboarding for your original

36:40

Aaron: art credit you as the artist.

36:42

Aaron: Well, because you know, some people who are, you know,

36:45

Aaron: artists that draw like that, they're not animators, you know,

36:49

Aaron: they don't they don't do that.

36:52

Aaron: Or

36:52

Adam K: Yeah.

36:52

Aaron: they would have to do it by hand.

36:55

Aaron: Old school wise, which you wouldn't do anyway.

36:57

Aaron: So I think ultimately you just have to be transparent.

37:01

Aaron: And then if you do create a trailer from it, then you

37:06

Aaron: credit, you know, the person say, this is the person who made

37:10

Aaron: these designs and, you know, essentially made this trailer

37:14

Aaron: pay them what you can.

37:15

Aaron: And then I don't know what else there is, you know, to.

37:18

Adam K: Yeah, well, just my, my thought

37:22

Adam K: is like, yeah, I cannot pay an

37:23

Adam K: animator.

37:23

Adam K: And animation is very expensive.

37:25

Adam K: Traditional animation, especially if I could, if I had

37:27

Adam K: unlimited funds, it's like I would, I would hire the studio

37:33

Adam K: that made Mars Express, which is a great movie actually.

37:37

Adam K: You should check it out.

37:37

Adam K: It's it like I, I wish they could make a rook film.

37:41

Adam K: That would be my dream and it would just be for me.

37:43

Adam K: I don't care about box office returns or any of that bullshit.

37:46

Adam K: It's just like, man, this is like their vision of the world

37:50

Adam K: is like how I'm like, oh, that's how I saw the book.

37:52

Adam K: That's so great.

37:53

Adam K: I would love to see this thing come to life.

37:56

Adam K: Um, at the same time too.

37:57

Adam K: Like I totally get the ethical

37:59

Adam K: dilemma of using any sort of

38:01

Adam K: artificial intelligence in

38:03

Adam K: creating something that's

38:06

Adam K: artistic.

38:07

Adam K: At the same time, the story was completely Original.

38:10

Adam K: I don't think ChatGPT was even

38:12

Adam K: a. Maybe it was an early

38:13

Adam K: version.

38:14

Adam K: We didn't know about it.

38:15

Adam K: Everything we wrote about AI was stuff we were reading in, you

38:18

Adam K: know, science journals.

38:21

Adam K: Um, it wasn't never in my

38:23

Adam K: wildest dreams did I think it

38:25

Adam K: was going to replace any sort of

38:26

Adam K: creative that

38:28

Aaron: Yeah.

38:28

Adam K: never seemed realistic.

38:31

Adam K: And now we're here and it's like, oh, well, I'm glad we got

38:34

Adam K: the book in before and there could be any, like, you know,

38:39

Adam K: anything accusing us of just having a robot write the book?

38:43

Adam K: Like, no, we, we hired our cheap labor on Fiverr like everyone

38:47

Adam K: else, at least

38:49

Aaron: I guess

38:49

Adam K: the.

38:49

Aaron: everything was hired for that.

38:50

Aaron: I mean, the illustrations, the editor, the everything.

38:54

Adam K: Well, like you found Caleb on Reddit.

38:58

Adam K: He had a

38:58

Aaron: Yeah.

38:58

Adam K: post and you're like, this guy's awesome.

39:00

Adam K: Should we reach out to him?

39:01

Adam K: Yeah.

39:01

Adam K: Cool.

39:02

Adam K: And

39:02

Aaron: No,

39:02

Adam K: then.

39:02

Aaron: I think I said something like, it'd be cool if we could have

39:05

Aaron: art like this for the thing.

39:06

Aaron: And then

39:07

Adam K: Yeah.

39:07

Aaron: I think you were like, why don't you just reach out?

39:09

Aaron: And I was like, yeah, why

39:11

Adam K: Yeah.

39:11

Aaron: don't I?

39:12

Adam K: No, I think your exact words were it would be so cool if

39:15

Adam K: there was an algorithm that can look at his art style, copy it,

39:19

Adam K: and then we

39:19

Aaron: Yeah.

39:19

Adam K: just type in the words that we want.

39:21

Adam K: And then also, you can like, shit on his family.

39:24

Aaron: That does sound more like something I said.

39:26

Adam K: Yeah. Um, and then Rebecca was

39:28

Adam K: someone you knew that was like a

39:30

Adam K: publishing friend of yours who

39:32

Adam K: said, I want nothing to do with

39:34

Adam K: your book.

39:35

Adam K: Um, but here's an editor who can help you.

39:37

Aaron: Yeah, actually, I think that is true too.

39:41

Adam K: The only person I think we hired was squab from

39:45

Aaron: Oh,

39:45

Adam K: Fiverr.

39:45

Aaron: yes.

39:47

Adam K: Yeah, he tried putting his name in the credits.

39:51

Aaron: Executive producer squab.

39:54

Adam K: I remember he said he's like, here it is.

39:57

Adam K: Everything's perfect.

39:58

Adam K: Very first thing.

39:59

Adam K: Edited by squab and squab.

40:02

Aaron: It's like bigger than the the the.

40:04

Aaron: Written by.

40:05

Adam K: Mhm. Yeah. And then it had a weird length.

40:07

Adam K: I went to a crypto wallet.

40:08

Adam K: It was weird.

40:10

Adam K: But

40:10

Aaron: Yeah.

40:10

Adam K: again, this is this is what happens when you you hire

40:14

Adam K: strangers on the internet.

40:15

Adam K: So.

40:15

Aaron: I think I remember saying, I appreciate his audacity.

40:21

Aaron: And

40:21

Adam K: I

40:22

Aaron: I

40:22

Adam K: just,

40:22

Aaron: did, and I still do.

40:22

Adam K: I just, I, it would be funny for

40:25

Adam K: anyone to be reading the book

40:27

Adam K: like, man, this thing is

40:28

Adam K: collated perfectly.

40:30

Adam K: Who did this squab?

40:32

Adam K: I'm going to look this man up.

40:33

Adam K: Delete.

40:35

Aaron: Launches Squabs career.

40:37

Adam K: I mean, he he's probably doing better than either one of us.

40:41

Adam K: That's my guess.

40:42

Aaron: Mhm.

40:42

Adam K: So anywho, uh, so I'm, I'm not

40:46

Adam K: going to write anything for the

40:47

Adam K: blog this week since I put up

40:48

Adam K: the video.

40:49

Aaron: Yeah.

40:50

Adam K: Um, and then I'll make it live on YouTube on Monday.

40:55

Aaron: Yeah.

40:55

Adam K: Um.

40:56

Aaron: Because the YouTube, uh, is dying.

40:59

Adam K: Is

40:59

Aaron: It's

40:59

Adam K: it.

40:59

Aaron: it's losing a thousand subs a month.

41:02

Adam K: That's fine.

41:03

Aaron: I don't know if it is, but.

41:05

Adam K: Look, if you want subs, you gotta like enable comments and

41:11

Adam K: interact with people and get into the algorithm.

41:15

Adam K: If that's what you want, you can have it.

41:17

Adam K: But that's going to kill my drive to make anything.

41:21

Aaron: No, I think that it's, uh, videos just have to.

41:25

Aaron: They they can't be unlisted.

41:27

Aaron: That's the only that's the thing.

41:29

Aaron: It doesn't matter.

41:29

Aaron: The comments thing doesn't matter.

41:31

Aaron: Whatever.

41:31

Adam K: Why only

41:31

Aaron: It just.

41:31

Adam K: make them unlisted for a week?

41:33

Aaron: Yeah, yeah.

41:34

Adam K: Yeah.

41:34

Aaron: And then the it needs some shorts to get floating around.

41:38

Aaron: So.

41:39

Adam K: Yeah. I, well, I mean, I put up that one of me playing Halo.

41:43

Adam K: I don't know if you saw that.

41:46

Aaron: The one playing Halo, the short.

41:48

Adam K: I put up a short over the weekend so I installed there's a

41:51

Adam K: new I call it new Halo.

41:53

Adam K: But they remade Halo again.

41:56

Aaron: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah

41:57

Adam K: Yeah.

41:57

Aaron: yeah yeah I

41:58

Adam K: Yeah.

41:58

Aaron: see.

41:58

Adam K: I was playing around with it and I was like, again, this is this

42:01

Adam K: always happens it with like a rushed video game.

42:05

Adam K: You can just move characters by walking into them.

42:07

Adam K: I was like, I wonder if I can

42:09

Adam K: get this, this Captain Keys

42:11

Adam K: character to the end of the

42:12

Adam K: mission, and it was just getting

42:13

Adam K: too long.

42:13

Adam K: So I pushed him into the fire.

42:14

Adam K: And then it's like it just warped me back to the beginning

42:17

Adam K: of the game.

42:17

Adam K: It's like you've gone crazy.

42:19

Adam K: I'm like, this is broken.

42:20

Adam K: How did you not hire a game tester for this?

42:24

Adam K: My God.

42:25

Adam K: Or they did, and they just didn't care.

42:27

Adam K: That's probably more likely what it is.

42:29

Adam K: But

42:30

Aaron: They had to ship it and they had no time.

42:31

Adam K: there is a game coming out.

42:34

Adam K: Uh, I believe it's called war fantasy.

42:37

Adam K: There was a trailer for it, remember?

42:38

Adam K: Because you and I were talking about trying to pitch like a

42:41

Adam K: Call of Duty game years ago.

42:43

Adam K: Um, and this one's pretty cool.

42:46

Adam K: I'll send it to you, but it's called war fantasy.

42:48

Adam K: It's an ex Call of Duty developer, and I, it's like

42:52

Adam K: you're a kid playing a Call of Duty game called War Fantasy.

42:58

Adam K: And it's like merging with reality.

43:02

Adam K: So it's this, this sort of like

43:04

Adam K: liminal backrooms type space

43:06

Adam K: thing.

43:07

Adam K: Uh, but it's mixed with like the Call of Duty aesthetic.

43:10

Adam K: And I'm like, I love this.

43:11

Adam K: This is great.

43:12

Adam K: This is a great way to flip the whole thing on its head.

43:15

Adam K: Um, but that's like, that's what needs to be made.

43:19

Adam K: So that got me excited.

43:21

Aaron: We'll send it.

43:22

Adam K: I will, and then I want I sent you that one game too.

43:24

Adam K: You didn't respond.

43:26

Adam K: I was like, I think you would actually enjoy this one.

43:28

Adam K: I forgot it was called do you

43:31

Aaron: Uh.

43:31

Adam K: remember?

43:32

Adam K: Did you even look at it instead

43:33

Adam K: of sending me rear window PS1

43:35

Adam K: graphics.

43:37

Aaron: Uh, probably looked at it, and then I thought, I don't have

43:41

Aaron: time to play games anymore.

43:44

Aaron: Here's, uh, no, that's a podcast.

43:46

Aaron: Mousepad.

43:46

Adam K: Democracy. Democracy.

43:48

Adam K: Manifest.

43:49

Aaron: Oh, yeah.

43:49

Aaron: I looked at that game, um, where you're, you're having to submit

43:53

Aaron: proposals for laws and, and try and like get the best law

43:58

Aaron: proposed and negotiate.

44:00

Aaron: And I was like, I was like, I'm not stoned enough to look to go

44:05

Aaron: forward with this.

44:06

Adam K: It just it looks so mundane and silly and dumb.

44:10

Adam K: I was like, oh, Aaron might like this.

44:12

Adam K: I

44:12

Aaron: Now

44:12

Adam K: like the

44:12

Aaron: I'm

44:12

Adam K: art style

44:12

Aaron: more interested

44:13

Adam K: too.

44:13

Aaron: in this game I saw today it was

44:15

Aaron: called a it's set in the

44:17

Aaron: nineteen nineties in Poland, and

44:18

Aaron: you're trying to renovate your

44:19

Aaron: apartment.

44:22

Aaron: And the thing is, is like you

44:24

Aaron: don't have any money and there's

44:25

Aaron: no stores and there's no

44:27

Aaron: supplies.

44:28

Aaron: So like you to change your couch out, you just throw the couch

44:32

Aaron: out the window and then you.

44:35

Aaron: I think you steal someone else's couch or one just appears.

44:38

Aaron: But like when you move the couch, there's like a huge blood

44:41

Aaron: spot on the floor that you don't know what to do with.

44:43

Aaron: So you got to cover it up with another couch.

44:46

Aaron: And then like when you're tiling the, the, the wall, the tiles

44:50

Aaron: are, they're all from the trash and they don't like quite stay

44:53

Aaron: on the wall.

44:54

Aaron: Right.

44:54

Aaron: And yeah, that's what I'm interested in.

44:57

Adam K: I wish more games were like that.

44:59

Adam K: I ever tell you my my pitch for Duke Nukem.

45:03

Aaron: Now.

45:04

Adam K: So you know the the game, right?

45:06

Adam K: It's 90s badass guy.

45:08

Adam K: Just.

45:10

Aaron: I came to kick ass and chew bubble gum.

45:12

Adam K: Exactly. Yeah. Just rips off, you know?

45:14

Aaron: Yeah. They live.

45:15

Aaron: Yep.

45:15

Adam K: Yeah. Anything basically.

45:17

Adam K: I mean, I think he says, hail to the king, baby.

45:19

Adam K: All this stuff.

45:19

Adam K: Anyway, when they were like, announced they like bought the

45:24

Adam K: or they were like making a sequel and it failed.

45:26

Adam K: And then like gearbox bought it and they were like, going to

45:28

Adam K: bring it back to life.

45:29

Adam K: I was like, man, I wish they had

45:30

Adam K: some self-awareness of how lame

45:32

Adam K: Duke Nukem is or just how he

45:34

Adam K: doesn't, doesn't belong in

45:37

Adam K: today's world.

45:38

Adam K: So it's like if you made a sequel, it should be like you

45:42

Adam K: start off with that first mission where he's all badass

45:44

Adam K: and cool, and then it hard cuts to him at the convention center

45:47

Adam K: and his lines not very long.

45:50

Adam K: And he's like, he's taking photos for with fans for fifty

45:53

Adam K: bucks or whatever.

45:54

Adam K: And it's just he's overweight and, you know, he's got alimony

45:58

Adam K: just because he he like settled down, but he shouldn't have.

46:00

Adam K: He settled down with a stripper

46:01

Adam K: that he got pregnant and like,

46:04

Adam K: that's the game I want to play

46:05

Adam K: of that.

46:06

Adam K: And then then you have his like

46:07

Adam K: return to form, um, throughout

46:11

Adam K: the game.

46:11

Adam K: Like he, you actually have like

46:12

Adam K: a redemption arc where he like,

46:13

Adam K: he becomes badass again, but he

46:16

Adam K: earns it.

46:17

Adam K: But anyway, that will never exist.

46:20

Aaron: I could have sworn I pitched you

46:22

Aaron: a Duke Nukem game that was

46:24

Aaron: somewhat similar, but it was

46:26

Aaron: him.

46:26

Aaron: Like him dealing with his divorce the entire time.

46:31

Aaron: Like, I swear I pitched that to you.

46:34

Aaron: I want to say that you stole my idea.

46:36

Adam K: Not, not even close.

46:37

Adam K: Because

46:37

Aaron: Yeah.

46:38

Adam K: I, I, I had this, I'm pretty sure I, I had this idea back in

46:42

Adam K: like two thousand and nine.

46:43

Aaron: I had mine in two thousand.

46:46

Aaron: That's when I first had it.

46:47

Aaron: I was

46:48

Adam K: Okay.

46:48

Aaron: playing Duke Nukem 3D Total Meltdown.

46:51

Adam K: You just googled that.

46:52

Aaron: No, I had that game.

46:55

Adam K: I've actually never played a

46:56

Adam K: Duke Nukem more than like a

46:59

Adam K: level.

46:59

Adam K: It just it didn't.

47:01

Adam K: A friend of mine had it.

47:02

Adam K: He's like, you know, if you give

47:04

Adam K: the strippers money, they show

47:05

Adam K: their boobs.

47:06

Adam K: And like, those don't look like boobs.

47:08

Adam K: Even then they were it was bad

47:11

Aaron: Yeah.

47:12

Adam K: anyway.

47:13

Adam K: Well, I think you and I probably

47:14

Adam K: just had the same idea or

47:16

Adam K: similar ideas, and I. I wish we

47:20

Adam K: could find someone willing to

47:22

Adam K: take a risk on that and actually

47:23

Adam K: make something like original and

47:25

Adam K: exciting that like that has

47:28

Adam K: moments to breathe, you know,

47:30

Adam K: but like, I would love a level

47:32

Adam K: where he has to go to the

47:32

Adam K: divorce lawyer's office or he's

47:35

Adam K: got to deliver the alimony

47:36

Adam K: check.

47:38

Aaron: But he's like, he's just there's constantly there's pig aliens

47:42

Aaron: floating outside the window.

47:44

Aaron: And he's just like, every time he's trying to deal with his

47:47

Aaron: contract, he's just like, damn.

47:51

Adam K: Well,

47:51

Aaron: And

47:51

Adam K: I

47:51

Aaron: he's.

47:51

Adam K: think

47:52

Aaron: Yeah.

47:52

Adam K: I think the pig aliens are like,

47:54

Adam K: they should represent like the

47:56

Adam K: woke culture that he hates so

47:57

Adam K: much.

47:58

Adam K: You know, I hate using that term because it's overused and it's

48:01

Adam K: just this kind of catch all dogwhistle thing or whatever.

48:03

Adam K: But like, he, he wouldn't.

48:05

Adam K: But just the idea is that, well, no, now we as a society have

48:10

Adam K: accepted the pigs and they're just but they're still rude and

48:13

Adam K: they're, they just treat him like shit, but he can't do

48:15

Adam K: anything about it.

48:17

Aaron: They have blue hair and they work in HR.

48:19

Adam K: Yeah. He's like trying to order a meal at a like so one of the,

48:26

Adam K: one of the buttons, he goes through his pocket to see how

48:28

Adam K: much change he has.

48:29

Adam K: And he only has ninety seven cents.

48:31

Adam K: So he has to then go to a fast food restaurant and find

48:34

Adam K: something on the menu.

48:35

Adam K: Or he's got to like go through the trash and find a coupon.

48:38

Adam K: And these are all like just little mini games that he does.

48:40

Adam K: And so then he finally goes up and tries to buy it.

48:43

Adam K: But the pig with the blue hair

48:44

Adam K: is working at the cash register,

48:46

Adam K: and they won't look up from

48:47

Adam K: their, you know, futuristic

48:48

Adam K: tablet thing.

48:49

Adam K: And then he says something like, listen here, pig.

48:52

Adam K: And like, would you call me?

48:53

Adam K: And then it becomes this.

48:54

Adam K: And then they start filming him and then he, he ends up being,

48:57

Adam K: you know, he's like a Karen, like YouTube video.

49:01

Aaron: I want your manager.

49:03

Adam K: Yeah.

49:03

Aaron: Get me your manager.

49:05

Adam K: Yeah. Uh. Bitch ass.

49:07

Adam K: Dead ass.

49:08

Adam K: Karen.

49:09

Adam K: Balding.

49:10

Adam K: Overweight.

49:10

Adam K: Karen wants to speak to my manager.

49:13

Adam K: I wouldn't say lol.

49:14

Adam K: They say rofl or I don't know, look at UNC.

49:18

Aaron: Actually, that would be awesome if Duke Nukem had.

49:22

Aaron: He dawned on, like, the Karen Bob haircut in order to.

49:28

Aaron: In order to, like, get on the level with with these people,

49:32

Aaron: like he goes undercover and then he's just maybe he's just trans,

49:36

Aaron: I don't know, I don't know, I have to work on the the thing,

49:38

Aaron: but it starts with Duke Nukem with that haircut.

49:40

Aaron: And I think that works

49:41

Adam K: It's got.

49:41

Aaron: for me.

49:42

Adam K: It's got to be like The Incredibles.

49:44

Adam K: That moment where someone goes

49:46

Adam K: like, I have a job for you and

49:47

Adam K: he gets hired for it, but they,

49:48

Adam K: they think he's Master Chief or

49:50

Adam K: something else.

49:51

Adam K: They get a mix up with.

49:52

Adam K: Another has been.

49:56

Adam K: And then he shows up and like, oh, oh my God, I'm so sorry.

50:00

Adam K: Who are you?

50:02

Adam K: And then but then, then yes, he gets a he takes a job, like with

50:08

Adam K: the CIA, but he has to go undercover as a woman.

50:12

Adam K: And

50:12

Aaron: Yeah.

50:12

Adam K: then yeah, he gets like, fondled and he finally he understands

50:16

Adam K: what it's like.

50:16

Adam K: Yeah.

50:17

Adam K: He gained some empathy for all the women.

50:19

Aaron: Duke

50:19

Adam K: Uh.

50:20

Aaron: Nukem in that wig while some

50:23

Aaron: guy's grabbing his pussy and

50:24

Aaron: he's crying

50:25

Adam K: Mhm.

50:25

Aaron: would just be so amazing.

50:28

Adam K: Yeah. The objectives go to the bathroom and cry and reflect on

50:31

Adam K: your life choices.

50:32

Aaron: Yeah. I came here to cry and

50:36

Aaron: chew bubble gum, and I'm all out

50:39

Aaron: of gum.

50:39

Adam K: It's like, seriously, you use

50:42

Adam K: the my summer car engine for

50:45

Adam K: this?

50:45

Adam K: Like, shooting in this game

50:47

Adam K: should only be the last two

50:48

Adam K: minutes.

50:49

Aaron: Yeah.

50:50

Adam K: Like that's it.

50:51

Adam K: There's almost no action in this.

50:53

Adam K: It's all mini games like mowing the lawn.

50:57

Adam K: Um, yeah, it should be VR.

51:02

Adam K: You should experience it from Duke's perspective.

51:04

Aaron: Duke Nukem my summer off.

51:06

Aaron: Yeah. That's the game I'd play.

51:12

Aaron: Maybe you should just be.

51:14

Aaron: It should combine this Polish

51:15

Aaron: renovation simulator with Duke

51:17

Aaron: Nukem, where he's just trying

51:19

Aaron: to.

51:19

Aaron: He's trying to make his divorce dad apartment.

51:22

Aaron: He just moved into, like, livable.

51:24

Aaron: But he's got no money.

51:27

Aaron: And, like, basically the the countdown is like his kids going

51:31

Aaron: to visit in a few days.

51:33

Aaron: No, no, no, the caseworker is going to visit in a few days.

51:36

Aaron: And if it doesn't look like a

51:38

Aaron: eleven year old kid can spend

51:40

Aaron: the weekend there, then you lose

51:42

Aaron: the game.

51:44

Adam K: I that's because what you could

51:46

Adam K: do there too is you have a timer

51:48

Adam K: and then

51:48

Aaron: Yeah.

51:48

Adam K: there's no real instructions on how

51:50

Aaron: No.

51:51

Adam K: to make the apartment look nice,

51:53

Aaron: Yeah.

51:53

Adam K: but you can interact with every object.

51:55

Adam K: And so and then again, it's like

51:57

Adam K: the maybe it's like there is

51:59

Adam K: some secret combo, but more

52:01

Adam K: likely than not, it doesn't

52:02

Adam K: matter.

52:03

Adam K: Um, because they, they find all

52:05

Adam K: like his sex toys, like in the

52:07

Adam K: closet

52:07

Aaron: Well, there's

52:07

Adam K: or.

52:08

Aaron: like, you know, like randomly strippers or someone will knock

52:13

Aaron: on your door and they'll be like, Duke, we have a baby, you

52:17

Aaron: know, or whatever, whatever.

52:18

Aaron: And you're trying, you're hoping that that doesn't happen when

52:21

Aaron: the caseworker comes by,

52:22

Adam K: Yeah.

52:23

Aaron: you know,

52:23

Adam K: Or

52:23

Aaron: that'll ruin

52:23

Adam K: it's,

52:24

Aaron: everything.

52:24

Adam K: it's like a schlubby millennial,

52:26

Adam K: you know, forty something fan

52:28

Adam K: who's like, like I found you

52:30

Adam K: like, or, you know, or he's like

52:32

Adam K: mad because he paid him on

52:34

Adam K: cameo, but Duke never made the

52:36

Adam K: video.

52:38

Adam K: He's like, you motherfucker.

52:39

Adam K: And he starts quoting all the things.

52:41

Adam K: He's like, I told you to say,

52:42

Adam K: I'm the king, baby and all

52:45

Adam K: saying all this like

52:45

Adam K: misogynistic stuff.

52:46

Adam K: And the caseworkers just watching like, okay.

52:49

Adam K: And he's.

52:50

Adam K: And Duke's like, What did you

52:51

Adam K: write down on your your pad

52:52

Adam K: there?

52:54

Adam K: Uh, I want this to exist.

52:57

Aaron: I'm going to send you this.

52:58

Aaron: This.

52:59

Aaron: I have the link fresh because I sent it to you.

53:01

Aaron: Uh, someone on the Polish team that that does video design.

53:05

Aaron: And I said, uh, what did I tell them?

53:09

Aaron: I said, I'm not sure if this is offensive or hilarious, but this

53:13

Aaron: is this game I found.

53:17

Adam K: Uh.

53:18

Aaron: Yeah.

53:19

Adam K: Well

53:19

Aaron: I'm gonna

53:19

Adam K: done.

53:19

Aaron: send this to you.

53:20

Adam K: All right, all right, well, I need to go.

53:22

Adam K: I'm going to get this video up.

53:24

Adam K: I gotta catch a train in a little bit.

53:26

Aaron: Okay. Where are you at?

53:29

Adam K: I'm at home.

53:30

Aaron: Oh. All right.

53:31

Adam K: I'm back.

53:31

Adam K: I just I gotta catch a train.

53:34

Adam K: We have public transportation here.

53:36

Adam K: I have places to go.

53:37

Aaron: I know I've been on it.

53:38

Aaron: It sucks.

53:39

Aaron: Uh,

53:39

Adam K: Yeah.

53:40

Aaron: okay.

53:41

Aaron: I'm sending you this Polish apartment renovator simulator.

53:44

Adam K: I'll check it out.

53:45

Adam K: Thank you so much for that.

53:46

Aaron: Yeah.

53:47

Adam K: All right.

53:47

Adam K: I'll talk to you later.

53:48

Aaron: All right.

53:48

Aaron: Yeah.

53:48

Adam K: Bye.