September 28, 2026

Timothy: Winner.

Adam K: You're you're the you are the you won the contest.

Adam K: Uh, an old man with a giant checks going to come to your

Adam K: house and you get a free year of, uh, blog posts.

Timothy: Ed McMahon.

Timothy: Come to my house.

Timothy: I don't

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: know if that man is still alive anymore.

Timothy: Probably not.

Adam K: I'm pretty sure he died before Johnny Carson.

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: So,

Timothy: Okay.

Adam K: anyway.

Adam K: Hey, Duff, thanks for coming on here.

Adam K: And, uh,

Timothy: No

Adam K: taking

Timothy: problem.

Adam K: over for for Aaron.

Adam K: Uh, you've been friends with Aaron since diapers, or would

Adam K: you guys go to high school together or something?

Timothy: We met in high school.

Timothy: I guess it was Trek.

Timothy: It was off season cross country for me.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: And then I remember running next to him, and then, I don't know.

Timothy: He usually tells stories better.

Timothy: He's always the storyteller.

Timothy: But,

Adam K: I disagree,

Timothy: uh, I,

Adam K: but sure.

Timothy: I, uh, I ditched the run at some point because I don't know why I

Timothy: was in high school and and ditching things was was fun.

Timothy: And, uh, I went and hung out in a gas station because I needed

Timothy: to, to take a number two.

Timothy: And, uh, and then right about the time that Aaron ran back

Timothy: around the gas station, I rejoined him for the run because

Timothy: that was they had to run to the lighthouse and back.

Timothy: And the gas station was somewhere in the middle.

Timothy: And he was like, did you didn't run to the lighthouse?

Timothy: Like, no, I certainly didn't.

Timothy: I was at the coyote station and thus a friendship was born.

Adam K: Yeah. Aaron. Aaron, I think is

Adam K: attracted to people who like to

Adam K: get around the law or cut, cut

Adam K: corners and just be a little bit

Adam K: smarter than the rest of the

Adam K: lemmings the way he he would say

Adam K: it.

Adam K: So, but

Timothy: I

Adam K: I

Timothy: wasn't

Adam K: don't want

Timothy: always

Adam K: to.

Timothy: this way.

Adam K: Yes,

Timothy: He does encourage it, though.

Timothy: He

Adam K: yes.

Timothy: led me down the wrong path.

Adam K: Yeah. He's definitely the devil on both shoulders.

Adam K: Um, but he is he's out taking a little mini vacay.

Adam K: Well deserved as he does, uh, once a month.

Adam K: So, um, thank you for agreeing to come on.

Adam K: Um, it's we've only got to, like, talk a couple times.

Adam K: Once was at a New Year's party

Adam K: where we took a bunch of

Adam K: mushrooms inside a giant brain,

Adam K: but that

Timothy: That's always

Adam K: was,

Timothy: a good time to get to know people.

Adam K: it was just weird.

Adam K: Yeah. And then.

Timothy: It wasn't a brain, wasn't it?

Timothy: Yeah, that

Adam K: Yeah,

Timothy: is weird.

Adam K: I think I have pictures of it.

Adam K: And then I just remember the bones of a giant sloth.

Adam K: Um, yeah,

Timothy: Oh, that sloth was cool, wasn't it?

Adam K: it was, and a little creepy.

Adam K: And then it just, your brain goes to those places where

Adam K: you're like, things were, were bigger at one point and we're

Adam K: very small, but we've terraformed this planet.

Adam K: Who are we?

Adam K: What are we and not?

Adam K: I mean, it was it was a fine New Year's.

Adam K: It was just, uh, probably not

Adam K: the best substance to take, um,

Adam K: I think.

Timothy: We all come from that same primordial is.

Adam K: It's true.

Timothy: That's

Adam K: And.

Timothy: that's our unifying bond, you and I.

Adam K: Yeah. No, I mean, I, I've, I've said this before.

Adam K: It's like, if you do believe in

Adam K: the Big Bang, we all came from

Adam K: stardust.

Adam K: We all, you know, the whatever the whatever this, however, this

Adam K: whole thing started, either we're inside a black hole and

Adam K: that's just how energy expels or the universe is constantly, uh,

Adam K: contracting and sucking itself in and blowing itself out.

Adam K: It's like it, whatever's in us

Adam K: is the same stuff that's in Mars

Adam K: and beyond.

Adam K: So it's like, hey, we're all connected in some way, right?

Adam K: That that helps me sleep at night other because then it's

Adam K: like, hey, the aliens are our friends, but we're also never

Adam K: going to see them because the universe is too big.

Adam K: But anyway, I'm on mushrooms now, in case you were wondering.

Timothy: That's fine.

Timothy: No stardust or the the apple or

Timothy: the glimmer in Grand Pappy's I.

Timothy: Whatever.

Timothy: Whatever have you that brought us here?

Timothy: I'm

Adam K: No,

Timothy: glad to be here.

Adam K: no. There were two people in a in a garden, in a snake made

Adam K: women do bad things.

Adam K: And that's why we treat them horribly.

Adam K: Thanks,

Timothy: And

Adam K: Bible.

Timothy: he unlocked his jaw and he ate the apple.

Timothy: It wasn't

Adam K: Wait,

Timothy: Adam at all, was it?

Adam K: was there lockjaw involved?

Timothy: Yeah. Snakes.

Timothy: I think snakes, snakes at that point too.

Timothy: As as far as that myth goes, snakes had feet because part of

Timothy: being cast out of the Garden of Eden, I believe the serpent had

Timothy: its feet removed in that myth.

Timothy: I

Adam K: That makes sense.

Timothy: don't fact check me on that.

Timothy: I don't know that.

Adam K: You got to go to the original

Adam K: Egyptian version, where Jesus

Adam K: rode in on the back of a

Adam K: velociraptor and.

Timothy: Exactly. In the original Aramaic.

Adam K: Did not.

Adam K: I mean, realistically, he would have had an AK forty seven, but

Adam K: the Americanized version of Jesus has an M16.

Timothy: He would.

Timothy: If God is just, he would have a

Timothy: fully loaded, fully automatic

Timothy: weapon.

Adam K: Yes, American Jesus is just like parts of the Old Testament

Adam K: slapped on to New Testament where it's like New Testament.

Adam K: Jesus is a pretty cool dude.

Adam K: Uh, sandals hanging out with whores.

Adam K: Like I, I like

Timothy: Just

Adam K: that

Timothy: chilling.

Adam K: Jesus, I would chill with that dude.

Adam K: Um,

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: but yeah, my, my family in the Midwest would like to differ.

Timothy: Yeah. He

Adam K: Yeah,

Timothy: would have,

Adam K: yeah.

Timothy: you know, a nice pair of

Timothy: Birkenstocks, a pair of jeans, a

Timothy: nice, nicely well-groomed beard

Timothy: with all of the beard products

Timothy: that are presented to you on

Timothy: Instagram

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: and,

Adam K: A newly

Timothy: uh.

Adam K: leased Denali.

Timothy: Yeah, exactly.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: You'd

Adam K: Eight

Timothy: be

Adam K: hundred

Timothy: like,

Adam K: dollars

Timothy: come

Adam K: a month.

Timothy: on, man,

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: I

Adam K: He's never

Timothy: got some

Adam K: going

Timothy: things

Adam K: to pay

Timothy: to

Adam K: that

Timothy: tell

Adam K: thing.

Timothy: you.

Adam K: Yeah. Eight percent Apr.

Timothy: He'll

Adam K: Hop

Timothy: never get

Adam K: on

Timothy: that

Adam K: in.

Timothy: paid off.

Timothy: Not before someone plows into the side of him.

Adam K: Right.

Adam K: And keeps telling everyone that diesel's a good idea.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: Yeah, yeah.

Timothy: Biodiesel.

Timothy: We're going to get the blue diesel eventually.

Timothy: The cool the cool diesel that they have in Europe.

Adam K: I,

Timothy: That's right.

Adam K: I see you have a new router on your bed behind you.

Timothy: Oh, yeah.

Adam K: Are

Timothy: Well,

Adam K: you?

Timothy: it's not a router.

Timothy: This is a let's see.

Timothy: It's a mycotic mycotic cloud switch.

Adam K: Oh.

Timothy: And, uh, yeah, I am changing up from a TP link system because

Timothy: all of that got banned because of Chinese, whatever, whatever

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: it is.

Adam K: It's just it's, uh, communism's back and it's bad.

Adam K: Actually, it's.

Adam K: China does capitalism better than us because

Timothy: I know.

Adam K: it uses communism.

Adam K: I don't know, either way, their stuff's

Timothy: In,

Adam K: cheaper and we can't buy it anymore.

Timothy: in little bubbles, it seems

Adam K: Yeah,

Timothy: to work really well,

Adam K: yeah.

Timothy: especially with, uh, with a, uh, a top down approach.

Timothy: Who knows?

Adam K: This is a work mandate or you're

Adam K: doing your personal home lab

Adam K: stuff.

Timothy: Just personal home lab stuff.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: Just making sure that my my.

Timothy: My home lab is nice and secure instead of.

Timothy: Because every other day I had some IP addresses from Singapore

Timothy: poking around in my in my system, and I was just like, I'm

Timothy: sure that Singapore is fine.

Timothy: And that's not exactly China, but I'm, I would be, I'm okay

Timothy: with with getting rid of that and buying something.

Timothy: I think the micro ticks are like Latvian.

Timothy: And if Latvians are creating it,

Timothy: that means that they've done

Timothy: their fair share of defense

Timothy: against Russia.

Adam K: Yeah. Well,

Timothy: So they probably know what they're doing.

Adam K: well, you and I are kindred

Adam K: spirits in that way that I, I've

Adam K: dabbled in the home lab stuff,

Adam K: and I like to do the

Adam K: self-hosting.

Adam K: What, uh, what got you into it?

Adam K: I'm curious.

Adam K: I'm always curious what other people's journeys look like.

Timothy: MM. I had I guess I've always had an interest in, uh,

Timothy: alternate operating systems, more so than probably a lot of

Timothy: my peers who have argued with me incessantly, especially when

Timothy: we're trying to play games.

Timothy: It's like, Tim, why, what's the problem?

Timothy: Is it Linux?

Timothy: Duffield is the problem.

Timothy: Linux again, it's like, you don't understand.

Adam K: So what

Timothy: I

Adam K: you

Timothy: just

Adam K: were

Timothy: have

Adam K: using,

Timothy: to make this work.

Adam K: you're using Linux before?

Adam K: It was cool.

Timothy: I yeah, I'm a hipster that way.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: Uh, I think it started in grad school.

Timothy: I, I went to grad school.

Timothy: I have a master's degree in applied cognitive psychology.

Timothy: My focus is on human factors, ergonomics and, and the user

Timothy: experience of things.

Timothy: And usually that leads people down the path of, of, of being

Timothy: interested in Macintosh because that is the most easy to use

Timothy: user centric sort of system.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: And yeah, generally is, um, it is nice when things just work.

Timothy: But, uh, I grew up in a family of engineers.

Timothy: Um, I grew up using dos.

Timothy: Uh, that was my first kind of

Timothy: Tandy based system, uh, back in

Timothy: the nineties.

Timothy: And, um, I learned all the

Timothy: commands and learned how to use

Timothy: that.

Timothy: And then all the series of

Timothy: windows came after that, and it

Timothy: just aggravated me to no end of

Timothy: that.

Timothy: All of my tech would just become obsolete at some point, and I

Timothy: couldn't use it anymore when I knew that it still booted

Timothy: because I would take care of it.

Timothy: I'm the kind of guy that reapplies thermal paste when I

Timothy: know it's gone out because

Adam K: I

Timothy: I,

Adam K: know you're kind.

Timothy: I know where it sits.

Timothy: Uh, because I can take it apart and put it back together.

Adam K: Yeah,

Timothy: Um.

Adam K: well, that's that's blessed of you to be around engineers.

Adam K: I was just around a bunch of, like, dabblers who would give up

Adam K: on stuff if it didn't work.

Adam K: So I feel like that affected me in

Timothy: I

Adam K: a negative

Timothy: do a lot

Adam K: way.

Timothy: of that too.

Timothy: I do a lot

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: of that too, for sure.

Adam K: I mean, like I, I had heard of Linux from I'm trying to think

Adam K: this is around the time the Dreamcast was a, a thing.

Adam K: And I there was a overweight dude who had graduated high

Adam K: school way before any of us.

Adam K: And he would talk to us about things like VM use and Linux and

Adam K: stuff like that.

Adam K: I was like, that sounds great.

Adam K: And then I had not heard about

Adam K: it until I think like the steam

Adam K: machine, you know, years later

Adam K: when it's like, okay, now

Adam K: Valve's pushing.

Adam K: I was like, oh yeah, I remember that Linux thing.

Adam K: What is that?

Adam K: Not realizing that the entire world's infrastructure and

Adam K: internet has been running on this thing quietly ever since.

Adam K: You know, things have been growing, but you were there.

Adam K: You understood it.

Adam K: Like, I guess, what was it back then?

Adam K: Red hat or something?

Timothy: Um, I think the first one that I probably used seriously was

Timothy: right when ubuntu was starting to come out.

Timothy: Um,

Adam K: Mhm.

Timothy: it's just a Debian based version of Linux.

Timothy: Is ubuntu, except it's backed by a major company called canonical

Timothy: in the UK.

Timothy: And um, they've done a really, really great job of

Timothy: commercializing the use of Linux and, and, uh, there's a ton of,

Timothy: of weight and, and backing on that side of it, uh, towards

Timothy: developing for, for Linux.

Timothy: And I think that ubuntu does a really good job for that.

Timothy: It gets a lot of people started.

Timothy: Um,

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: and yeah, I had

Adam K: I

Timothy: it

Adam K: mean,

Timothy: on all my stuff in grad school for sure.

Adam K: I'll say like before Zoran or, uh, Cassius or I guess like.

Adam K: Arch.

Adam K: Arch.

Adam K: Arch.

Adam K: Arch.

Adam K: Linux.

Adam K: Now, before any of that, like

Adam K: ubuntu was like, it was the

Adam K: closest thing to like Mac OS

Adam K: that you can get on a PC

Adam K: basically.

Adam K: Because back then it was, or at

Adam K: least when I used it, it was

Adam K: like Vista was coming out,

Adam K: right?

Adam K: And we're

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: like, what is what is this crap?

Adam K: And then, yeah, dabbled with

Adam K: ubuntu and you're like, oh, this

Adam K: is actually a really nice, clean

Adam K: interface.

Adam K: I don't know how to run applications on here.

Adam K: Um, but now today, it's like so

Adam K: much easier to do any of that

Adam K: stuff.

Adam K: So, you know, you could, you could double click an app image

Adam K: and it works so strange.

Timothy: Right.

Timothy: So you

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: have to kind of separate the the

Timothy: visual experience of what you're

Timothy: using on Linux with the, the

Timothy: back end of, of the architecture

Timothy: of Linux.

Timothy: Uh, like how you said arch arch is actually ancient.

Timothy: It's been around a long time ago.

Timothy: Uh, if you talk to a bunch of old arch guys, they're, they're

Timothy: going to say, oh, you don't, you don't actually use real arch.

Timothy: You don't have to build it yourself.

Adam K: Uh.

Timothy: Because arch used to be because

Timothy: it is the community built,

Timothy: community distributed.

Timothy: That's the community choice.

Timothy: And, and why it has so much momentum right now is it's, it's

Timothy: all community developed.

Adam K: Mhm.

Timothy: Um, it's been around forever and ever.

Timothy: So one is Debian.

Timothy: Uh, another is Fedora.

Timothy: Uh, another is arch.

Adam K: There's

Timothy: Uh,

Adam K: what?

Timothy: but there's

Adam K: Uh,

Timothy: a lot

Adam K: not

Timothy: of different flavors of arch.

Adam K: was it gnome or is genome or whatever it is, but that's just

Adam K: like the that's

Timothy: Gnome is

Adam K: that's

Timothy: gnome is

Adam K: just

Timothy: a window manager.

Adam K: yeah, that's not the actual.

Timothy: That's like your user experience of how it is that you would

Timothy: interact with that system.

Adam K: Yeah. And then like Mac is built on what is it?

Adam K: FreeBSD.

Timothy: I believe it is a Unix based system.

Timothy: But.

Adam K: It has since gone its own way.

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: So much so that it's it's only like, because there's still like

Adam K: if you dig into your Mac's hard drive, it still does resemble

Adam K: like you see folders like Mount and var and these things that

Adam K: you will be very

Timothy: It

Adam K: confused.

Timothy: was a system convention that

Timothy: that has withstood the test of

Timothy: time.

Timothy: And so for all of these systems

Timothy: to interact, they all need to

Timothy: kind of understand this basic

Timothy: system convention.

Timothy: And so

Adam K: Mhm.

Timothy: they all have the NTE and VAR and etc.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: and things like that.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: Like, if you even go back to the oldest, uh, I think it was, was

Adam K: Mac OS ten or X, whatever you want to call it.

Adam K: When Steve Jobs was showing it off, he even called it like it's

Adam K: a Linux like interface.

Adam K: Um, like it was, they were very upfront about the fact that they

Adam K: were like picking back up, piggybacking off of Linux, which

Adam K: is like, but then again, you know, I was one of those, I was

Adam K: a video editor.

Adam K: So that's why I went to Mac was, oh, I need to use Final Cut

Adam K: because this is the best editing program for a prosumer.

Adam K: So that's, I was like, okay, I guess I have to learn Mac again.

Adam K: I was like, oh, it's actually it's all glass and pretty now,

Adam K: which I guess was just borrowing heavily from BSD or, you know,

Adam K: whatever the the prime Linux candidate was back then.

Timothy: Probably no. GNOME is probably the most Mac like thing that's

Timothy: out right now.

Timothy: And and it, it definitely resembles with the, with the

Timothy: dock, the bottom.

Timothy: All of your applications that

Timothy: are running and, and you just

Timothy: type an application you want and

Timothy: it brings it right up, things

Timothy: like that.

Timothy: I'm actually running on GNOME right now.

Adam K: Yeah, we

Timothy: It's just

Adam K: were

Timothy: easy.

Adam K: talking.

Adam K: We were talking earlier.

Adam K: And I guess you were using that Ryukyu, uh, hyper

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: land thing that I was kind of messing around with.

Adam K: How's and how's how's your experience with that been?

Timothy: Uh, like anything that's still

Timothy: in beta, it has its, it has its

Timothy: limitations.

Timothy: Uh, plus,

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: whenever I really want to become really smooth and, and

Timothy: understand, um, using a tiling manager type desktop because I

Timothy: think it's, it makes me feel like I'm Tom cruise in that, in

Timothy: that, uh, what is the minority Report and just

Adam K: I was

Timothy: moving

Adam K: gonna say

Timothy: things

Adam K: Magnolia,

Timothy: around.

Adam K: but.

Adam K: Yes. Yeah.

Timothy: Yeah, the one in Magnolia.

Timothy: Uh, but he's moving, uh, his

Timothy: interface around and, um, it

Timothy: just, it seems like it could be

Timothy: faster, but the, the, the part

Timothy: where my muscle memory kicks in

Timothy: is I still want to grab the

Timothy: mouse

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: and I still want to interact with it.

Timothy: And if you give me even one beer, then I forget it all.

Timothy: And, and I'm, I'm in the manual looking up anything?

Adam K: Yeah, yeah.

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: I'm. I'm with you there.

Adam K: Like I like, I think we as

Adam K: people are just naturally

Adam K: disorganized.

Adam K: And there is something nice.

Adam K: I mean, like right now I can, for some reason I have Zoom on

Adam K: top of ChatGPT.

Adam K: I'm using neither application,

Adam K: but it's just sitting on one of

Adam K: my giant monitors in a tiling

Adam K: manager.

Adam K: It would all be neatly there,

Adam K: except I have so many stupid

Adam K: windows open like I have a

Adam K: terminal window open for no

Adam K: reason.

Adam K: It would all be tiled and there

Adam K: wouldn't be much room and it

Adam K: would just look nice, but it

Adam K: would just still be a mess of

Adam K: crap.

Adam K: So

Timothy: Right?

Adam K: it's like these two competing ideas are fighting each other.

Adam K: And I guess if you are more of

Adam K: an organized person, it makes

Adam K: sense.

Adam K: But yeah, I'm with you where I'm

Adam K: like, I want that beautiful ease

Adam K: of use.

Adam K: But then I'm like, well, fuck, how do I open this?

Adam K: You know, with Nintendo Switch emulator full screen, I the menu

Adam K: is gone or now it's yeah, like you said, it's in beta, so it's

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: still wacky, but.

Timothy: And you can still kind of get at it with.

Timothy: I'm glad that it leaves you the option for the cursor.

Timothy: And I think that they've done a really good job with it there

Timothy: and where they've done better than what, what I, what I say

Timothy: like Omachi is right now is it feels at least a little bit more

Timothy: towards an adult aesthetic.

Timothy: Omachi to me feels like you ever ridden in in a Chevy Camaro that

Timothy: was made in the two thousand.

Timothy: It kind

Adam K: Oh,

Timothy: of feels like

Adam K: yeah.

Timothy: the Batmobile.

Timothy: It's made for a sixteen year old.

Adam K: Mhm. Cheerleader?

Timothy: It's

Adam K: No.

Timothy: not.

Adam K: Well, there's the Mustang,

Timothy: Or.

Adam K: but.

Timothy: Or cheerleader.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: Yeah, exactly.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: It it doesn't feel like an a an adult's car.

Timothy: It doesn't feel like an A. I

Timothy: know that it has the capability,

Timothy: but it

Adam K: That's

Timothy: it

Adam K: that's

Timothy: there's

Adam K: kind

Timothy: a

Adam K: of how

Timothy: childishness

Adam K: I.

Timothy: to it.

Adam K: That's kind of how I feel about the ryoku.

Adam K: Unless we're talking about the

Timothy: A

Adam K: same

Timothy: little

Adam K: thing.

Timothy: bit.

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: Yeah, yeah.

Timothy: No, definitely

Adam K: Okay.

Timothy: it does.

Adam K: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Adam K: It feels like this is what a teenager thinks is cool.

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: Um, yeah.

Adam K: And it's like I, I don't know.

Adam K: Yeah.

Adam K: Hyper land is almost, there's too much like setup.

Adam K: Then again, like you can just run Claude on your system now

Adam K: and just say, I want you to do this and it will just build it

Adam K: out for you.

Adam K: So maybe I'll just revert to that.

Adam K: Um,

Timothy: I've been doing a ton of that with Hermes and,

Adam K: yeah.

Adam K: Oh,

Timothy: and

Adam K: so yeah, I

Timothy: I

Adam K: want

Timothy: have

Adam K: to.

Timothy: a lot of, I have a lot of, uh, luck with Grock.

Timothy: So

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: I

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: don't

Adam K: Aaron

Timothy: have

Adam K: was saying.

Timothy: I don't have cloud enterprise.

Timothy: I do have some super grok that that I exhaust my credits out,

Timothy: uh, near constantly.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: Uh, and then I keep a subscription to news research.

Timothy: And so they gave, they gave me an access to lots of different

Timothy: types of models.

Timothy: So whenever, whenever that runs out, I do Nimatron, which is

Timothy: like Nvidia or, uh, there's another one called, oh, there's

Timothy: some other ones.

Timothy: We'll just say that.

Adam K: This is like the Fight club of models I've never heard of.

Adam K: Like you're you're in the dark web of I. Where do you go?

Adam K: Nude sites.

Timothy: Yeah, exactly.

Adam K: Yeah. Okay.

Timothy: News, news, research, n o u s the French

Adam K: This,

Timothy: word.

Adam K: this is going to be like the

Adam K: time when I was a kid and I went

Adam K: to wrestling dot com and I did

Adam K: notice about wrestling, so I

Adam K: didn't put a T so immediately

Adam K: went to a porno site on, uh, the

Adam K: Camp Pendleton.

Adam K: local internet.

Timothy: What whatever they still allow

Timothy: on on the school's ISP is what

Timothy: we would click on in the

Timothy: computer lab and then print it

Timothy: out.

Timothy: And perfect.

Adam K: We

Timothy: That was

Adam K: had.

Timothy: back before they tracked everything because my nephew

Timothy: just got in trouble for just googling something stupid, so.

Adam K: Really?

Adam K: Wow.

Timothy: Oh, yeah.

Adam K: I mean, the way we did it was we

Adam K: had PowerPoint, like an early

Adam K: version of windows ninety five

Adam K: PowerPoint.

Adam K: And someone in there said, you

Adam K: know, you can like you can link

Adam K: to an application within there,

Adam K: you can have like a start

Adam K: button.

Adam K: And that way you can get around

Adam K: the whatever the schools, uh,

Adam K: you know, nanny filter or

Adam K: whatever.

Adam K: So it's like we did it to play solitaire during,

Timothy: Exactly.

Adam K: during the keyboarding class.

Adam K: Uh, supposed to be learning how to type, but no, we wanted to

Adam K: play with cards.

Adam K: So but now.

Adam K: Yeah.

Adam K: So now

Timothy: Who

Adam K: your

Timothy: needs

Adam K: nephew's.

Timothy: to type?

Adam K: Yeah. Why was your nephew going to four chan during school hours

Adam K: is the question.

Timothy: Well, I think they had just had

Timothy: a school assembly where they

Timothy: told them not to, uh, not to

Timothy: type anything that could be

Timothy: considered.

Timothy: And he, uh, not to be considered

Timothy: as, as anything threatening or

Timothy: anything suspicious.

Timothy: And of course, he and his

Timothy: friends thought about all of

Timothy: those things.

Timothy: And then he went and typed in how to make a bomb bay sandwich.

Timothy: And it has

Adam K: MM.

Timothy: him and his cursor hovering over a bomb bay sandwich.

Timothy: But he knew that it would be picked up.

Adam K: Yeah. Damn.

Timothy: Yeah, he's too smart for his own good.

Adam K: Yeah. I mean, in our day to, the word bomb meant good.

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: You know, that's

Timothy: You the bomb?

Adam K: you bomb dot com, you know.

Timothy: Bomb, madam.

Timothy: You

Adam K: Yeah. Thank

Timothy: bomb!

Adam K: you.

Adam K: Yeah. I'll see you at Ebaum's world.

Timothy: Oh, yeah.

Adam K: That's where the good videos are.

Adam K: I wanted to

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: ask you actually about Hermes

Adam K: because I got it running over

Adam K: the weekend.

Adam K: I got it in a Docker container

Adam K: running on my my little Unraid

Adam K: server because I don't trust it,

Adam K: even though I probably need a

Adam K: sandbox.

Adam K: It even further, probably in its own VM or something like that

Timothy: I

Adam K: because

Timothy: just let it go?

Adam K: okay, yeah, there's a part of me

Adam K: that it's like, you know what,

Adam K: probation's

Timothy: I don't know.

Adam K: over.

Adam K: You didn't break anything within thirty minutes.

Adam K: Have access to everything.

Adam K: Who cares?

Timothy: Exactly. I'm I'm kind of of the opinion now.

Timothy: It's like it's inevitable anyway.

Timothy: And I break things near constantly.

Timothy: I can't imagine that you could do worse than I can do,

Adam K: I believe

Timothy: so go for

Adam K: you me,

Timothy: it.

Adam K: I am, I am specifically known for breaking things.

Adam K: Uh,

Timothy: But that's how you learn to fix it.

Adam K: yeah.

Adam K: Yes. I remember going to my uncle's house and downloading.

Adam K: I think it was like the Swat three demo, and I somehow

Adam K: crashed his entire computer.

Adam K: I don't know

Timothy: Nice.

Adam K: how he couldn't even boot it up.

Timothy: Swat

Adam K: And.

Timothy: three.

Timothy: What?

Timothy: Dang, that.

Adam K: The early

Timothy: Yes!

Adam K: two thousand, maybe

Timothy: Heck,

Adam K: something

Timothy: yeah!

Adam K: like that.

Adam K: And

Timothy: Yeah!

Adam K: he just had some like it was a pretty hefty piece.

Adam K: It was a prebuilt, but I remember he was just so

Adam K: frustrated trying to get the computer to boot up.

Adam K: And I'm like, I don't know what I did.

Adam K: I burned something out, I don't know.

Adam K: So I'm cursed when it comes to this stuff.

Adam K: So, uh, believe you me, but like

Adam K: with Hermes, I was just kind of

Adam K: curious.

Adam K: What's your use case for it now?

Adam K: Because I'm.

Adam K: I'm currently struggling to find something useful for it to do.

Adam K: I know it'll happen.

Adam K: Um, but I'm just, I'm want to know what your experience has

Adam K: been with it.

Timothy: Um, so I have been going back and forth in between using arch

Timothy: and using this new type of Linux called Nixos and Nixos.

Timothy: It uses a declarative based system to install all the

Timothy: packages that it needs, meaning all, all of the programs are all

Timothy: written down in a big sheet in its most simple form, so that,

Timothy: um, everything is laid out and you could take that one file,

Timothy: that one text file, and take it to a new system and then have

Timothy: your same workstation on that system and then never have to do

Timothy: the whole, oh, find an executable, install it.

Timothy: Good thing ever again.

Timothy: You don't have to create a windows install script, uh,

Timothy: those sorts of things.

Timothy: It would just download it all

Timothy: from repos and after, you know,

Timothy: fifteen, twenty minutes of it

Timothy: downloading and, and setting

Timothy: everything up based on your

Timothy: system instructions, you have

Timothy: your workstation wherever you're

Timothy: at.

Adam K: So that's that's useful for like it folk basically.

Timothy: Exactly.

Timothy: Uh,

Adam K: Okay.

Timothy: it would be really, really good

Timothy: for people that were setting up,

Timothy: um, lots of different, smaller

Timothy: server type.

Timothy: Uh. Uh, blocks, server type

Timothy: systems or setting up a drone

Timothy: army.

Adam K: Oh, I see.

Adam K: So

Timothy: So

Adam K: not.

Timothy: that's

Adam K: Not.

Timothy: what got me interested in it is kind of the DoD use case, but

Timothy: what can I use it for?

Timothy: Because I, I just wonder, I

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: do a lot of wondering.

Timothy: I,

Adam K: Mhm.

Timothy: I, I, I'm a very peaceful,

Timothy: non-violent guy, but I also am

Timothy: curious about

Adam K: Are you using

Timothy: those things.

Adam K: God's eye at the moment?

Timothy: God's I know, I don't know that one.

Timothy: I'm going

Adam K: Oh,

Timothy: to write

Adam K: you haven't

Timothy: that

Adam K: seen.

Timothy: down.

Adam K: God's eye

Timothy: Uh,

Adam K: is

Timothy: uh.

Adam K: frightening.

Adam K: And I don't know if it's real or not.

Adam K: Similar to, like, the, uh, Magnolia minority Report thing.

Adam K: It

Timothy: Uh.

Adam K: it's.

Adam K: It looks like I could be remembering the movie wrong.

Adam K: It was a Shia LaBeouf movie.

Adam K: It was called Eagle Eye or something.

Adam K: Or he, he supposed to play an

Adam K: adult, which he looks like a

Adam K: child.

Adam K: So it doesn't really work.

Adam K: But he's like, he's being tracked.

Timothy: Porsche.

Adam K: Uh, or what was the, the,

Timothy: I

Adam K: um, the Wilson.

Timothy: feel for Shia and all of his

Timothy: trials and tribulations and and

Timothy: him trying to be such a macho

Timothy: dude.

Timothy: I

Adam K: Yeah,

Timothy: feel for that guy.

Adam K: I know it's it's tough for it's like like

Timothy: I

Adam K: Tom

Timothy: just

Adam K: Holland

Timothy: remember

Adam K: will

Timothy: holes.

Adam K: look like a child forever.

Timothy: I remember

Adam K: I.

Timothy: even Stevens. No. Is he even Stevens?

Timothy: What was

Adam K: He

Timothy: it?

Adam K: was even.

Adam K: Steven.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: Yeah, yeah.

Adam K: Um, I'm I'm a purist and I, I only read the book holes.

Adam K: I never actually saw the movie.

Adam K: Um,

Timothy: Okay.

Adam K: yeah, no, I I'm I'm being serious.

Adam K: My brother recommended it to me.

Adam K: He's like, you should read this book.

Adam K: I don't know, it was like thirteen.

Adam K: I was like, it's a good book.

Adam K: And then, I don't know, Shia

Adam K: LaBeouf always turned me up

Adam K: regardless.

Adam K: He's supposed to play an adult

Adam K: because I think he has some

Adam K: facial hair.

Adam K: And it's, it's that, um, like

Adam K: late two thousand, early twenty

Adam K: tens, like, uh, that, that like

Adam K: web interface that just no one

Adam K: in their right mind would ever

Adam K: use like, it's like a CSI type

Adam K: thing, but

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: it's this like open source project where you can track

Adam K: basically every plane, Every, uh, street camera.

Adam K: It's like, just

Timothy: Yes.

Adam K: available to everyone.

Adam K: Yeah. It's like you become the flock.

Adam K: You are flock now.

Timothy: Perfect.

Adam K: Um, yeah.

Timothy: That's

Adam K: So.

Timothy: never misused.

Timothy: Ever.

Adam K: No.

Timothy: And it just puts it together.

Timothy: All the APIs are set up for you and everything.

Timothy: Just

Adam K: It

Timothy: go.

Adam K: helped.

Adam K: If you don't know what your ex-wife is doing, how can you

Adam K: keep her safe?

Timothy: Exactly.

Adam K: Local police officers.

Adam K: Um.

Timothy: I I'm, I'm watching the the the

Timothy: pool down, down the street right

Timothy: now.

Adam K: I don't know if that joke went

Adam K: over a certain amount of

Adam K: people's heads.

Timothy: Probably

Adam K: Uh,

Timothy: not.

Adam K: I don't know.

Adam K: Look, if we get, uh, Talarico elected.

Adam K: I think you should be there on stage with him.

Timothy: Let's make it happen.

Adam K: With pictures of local, uh, empty pools.

Timothy: The pools.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: We're going to keep them safe.

Adam K: So. Okay, so you're using Nixos for

Timothy: Mhm.

Adam K: defense capabilities in.

Timothy: I'm just learning really.

Adam K: Right.

Timothy: I don't really care what I'm using, uh,

Adam K: Right.

Timothy: just as long as it's working.

Timothy: But I tend to break things in

Adam K: Right.

Timothy: the same way that we're talking about.

Timothy: It

Adam K: I'm.

Timothy: should work.

Timothy: And I usually keep one thing

Timothy: that works and then I break

Timothy: everything else.

Adam K: That's smart.

Adam K: I know.

Adam K: I mean, you're right, though.

Adam K: Like, how else can you fix something unless you break it?

Adam K: And that's how I justify my poor actions.

Adam K: So yeah.

Adam K: Um, but so I get going back to the question earlier, how does

Adam K: that work with like Hermes?

Adam K: Like, what do you, what do you what's a good use case for

Adam K: Hermes other than me talking to it on telegram, trying to get it

Adam K: to book a phone call with the or ring people because, uh, they

Adam K: won't get back to me.

Timothy: Um, I've, I've just been logging into the CLI, um, and I've been

Timothy: using it for, you know, multi agentic swarming, uh, since it

Timothy: has the capability to do things like grok bot.

Timothy: Um, so I'll give it a prompt that's basically like, okay, I

Timothy: want you to, uh, do these things like please figure out how to

Timothy: set up, uh, Ryoku.

Timothy: Um, and you can find the system instructions here.

Timothy: I, I found where the, the skills dot MD or the agent dot MD files

Timothy: were there on, on that website for it to read that, uh, go

Timothy: through these sets of instructions and spin up

Timothy: multiple agents so that I can token max it and move quickly

Timothy: because that's the way of the future is completely token

Timothy: maxing and, uh, make the best decisions, I tell it.

Timothy: Yeah, don't, don't wait for me

Timothy: to ask me to make decisions for

Timothy: you.

Timothy: I want you to make the best decisions and go.

Timothy: And that's my prompts every time.

Timothy: Now it's

Adam K: And

Timothy: just

Adam K: so you're

Timothy: it's

Adam K: just

Timothy: been up.

Adam K: you're.

Timothy: Multiple agents make

Adam K: So

Timothy: the

Adam K: it's

Timothy: best

Adam K: not

Timothy: decisions

Adam K: even

Timothy: go.

Adam K: it's not even teach me how to set this up is you go set it up.

Timothy: I used to be like, please teach me.

Adam K: Mhm.

Timothy: And I realize now, man, there's no way that I can keep up with

Timothy: the rapid advancement of everything all at once.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: I tried for a long time to be a

Timothy: programmer, and there's there's

Timothy: no way to learn programming

Timothy: online.

Adam K: Right.

Timothy: You you're better.

Timothy: You you really should go to an institution of higher learning

Timothy: and get a computer science degree, because I don't believe

Timothy: that it's going away.

Timothy: I'm not an AI doomer.

Timothy: Um, it's just going to be very different than it is now.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: Uh.

Adam K: Yeah. I'm with you there.

Adam K: But I was like, I'm just

Adam K: relating to it because I've gone

Adam K: from that.

Adam K: Teach me how to use something like, you know, Zapier or N810

Adam K: like this, if this, then that.

Adam K: And then I realize, wait, you can just do all this.

Timothy: You can just do it.

Adam K: You go do it.

Adam K: And it is making me more of a meat proxy where I'm just.

Adam K: I'm the middle man.

Adam K: I'm going to be the guy

Adam K: delivering the package on behalf

Adam K: of the AI, so I can make my five

Adam K: hundred dollars.

Adam K: Like I think we might all just

Adam K: end up becoming like glorified,

Adam K: you know, Postmates, Uber

Adam K: drivers.

Adam K: Maybe that was like, that's the psyop to get us ready for this,

Adam K: where it's like, why am I giving blueprints to this guy?

Adam K: And he doesn't know why he's getting the blueprints or he

Adam K: doesn't know what he's building.

Adam K: And the next thing you know,

Adam K: we're just covered in data

Adam K: centers.

Adam K: But, um.

Timothy: Put on the yoke.

Timothy: Come on.

Timothy: I need you in full harness so that you can pull.

Timothy: Pull the mills.

Timothy: Pull!

Timothy: Pull the grain mills.

Adam K: Oh, man, I, I had this idea.

Adam K: It's not really an original idea, but, uh, I was talking to

Adam K: Aaron about this.

Adam K: Do you see the computer that can run on human neurons?

Timothy: That sounds awesome.

Adam K: Well, they got

Timothy: Sign

Adam K: like

Timothy: me

Adam K: the

Timothy: up.

Adam K: fly brain playing doom.

Timothy: Yeah, yeah.

Adam K: Yeah,

Timothy: Oh, no. I've definitely seen stuff like that.

Adam K: Yeah,

Timothy: Everything always

Adam K: yeah.

Timothy: starts out with, let's see if we can play doom on it.

Adam K: Right.

Timothy: I always

Adam K: Yeah

Timothy: think that's hilarious.

Adam K: I

Timothy: I can play

Adam K: have

Timothy: doom on my TV right now,

Adam K: right.

Timothy: which is

Adam K: I,

Timothy: why

Adam K: I

Timothy: would

Adam K: have

Timothy: you want

Adam K: no

Timothy: to

Adam K: mouth

Timothy: do that

Adam K: and

Timothy: on

Adam K: I

Timothy: an

Adam K: must

Timothy: LG

Adam K: play

Timothy: TV?

Adam K: doom.

Adam K: Um,

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: but the idea is that they can

Adam K: take like cells from your finger

Adam K: and through science, I call it

Adam K: magic.

Adam K: They can turn those finger cells into neurons and like real basic

Adam K: neurons, the real, you know, yes or no. And they essentially

Adam K: scream at it because it doesn't like loud noises and that means

Adam K: you're doing bad.

Adam K: But when you're doing well, no noise keeps it quiet.

Adam K: So it's basically pain, no pain.

Adam K: Um, and that's, that's the transistor essentially.

Adam K: That's like running

Timothy: What

Adam K: these computers.

Timothy: are they screaming at?

Timothy: Like one cellular neuron?

Timothy: Or are they screaming at a fly's brain?

Timothy: What?

Adam K: I think all it's,

Timothy: Are.

Adam K: it's this weird conjunction where it's like, it's the AI and

Adam K: the neurons working

Timothy: Okay.

Adam K: in conjunction.

Adam K: But then they were getting

Adam K: worried that, oh, maybe it's

Adam K: just the AI doing all the work,

Adam K: but so they turned off the

Adam K: neurons and let the AI do all

Adam K: the work and it wasn't working

Adam K: correctly.

Adam K: So it is something weird where it is this like it's this

Adam K: artificial intelligence, which I learned over the weekend is, uh,

Adam K: baked in all sorts of eugenics and other sorts of lingo, but so

Adam K: is the IQ test.

Adam K: It all comes from that.

Adam K: Basically, uh, Silicon Valley

Adam K: was founded by white

Adam K: supremacists.

Adam K: So.

Timothy: Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, though.

Timothy: There's a lot of nice things

Timothy: that we can learn from the

Timothy: Nazis.

Adam K: Yeah,

Timothy: Let's go.

Adam K: let's just, let's just take

Adam K: their wonderful cars and fashion

Adam K: and then, uh, get a few trials

Adam K: going.

Timothy: I know

Adam K: Um.

Timothy: they sure were sharp dressers, weren't they?

Timothy: Man, I think Lemmy Kilmister was was on to something.

Adam K: He, I mean, and he was the most

Adam K: progressive progressive of all

Adam K: of us.

Timothy: He

Adam K: Um,

Timothy: was, wasn't he?

Adam K: yes, we, we miss him dearly.

Adam K: And regardless, it's this thing where it's the AI and the flesh

Adam K: working in conjunction.

Adam K: And so I just, I, I just had this brief vision of the future

Adam K: where we're selling our skin to the AI, and it's almost like

Adam K: sperm donation or blood donation, but it's like it

Adam K: starts off as all things.

Adam K: It's real simple.

Adam K: You just, you like, put your finger on a thing.

Adam K: Thank you for your donation.

Adam K: Gives you a thousand bucks.

Adam K: That's like our UBI.

Adam K: Um, then eventually grows where people are like giving their

Adam K: arms and their legs because that can buy them a house and like,

Timothy: It's

Adam K: well,

Timothy: like

Adam K: I want

Timothy: Hellraiser.

Adam K: the new car.

Adam K: Yes, but maybe in exchange, it's kind of like a Deus Ex thing

Adam K: where they're giving us robotic limbs, you know, in exchange.

Adam K: And similar to the computers in the mines.

Adam K: Um, we're just this is how the, the, the gentle merge begins of

Adam K: flesh and chrome.

Timothy: I would.

Timothy: I'm not sure if they would find that valuable.

Timothy: Once they realized how much resources that it took for us to

Timothy: grow them naturally.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: They'd probably figure out, oh,

Timothy: this is really an efficiency

Timothy: problem.

Timothy: Although, yes, please take my legs right now.

Timothy: My

Adam K: Mhm.

Timothy: knees suck and I know that they will give eventually here.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: So robots, if you're listening to me right now, I would take a

Timothy: robot leg and you can have them just just come on by later on.

Timothy: Later on today.

Timothy: I would totally do that.

Adam K: I had a dream that my son was.

Adam K: I don't have a child, but I dreamt I had a son, and it was

Adam K: this weird pseudo future thing where he was, like, training to

Adam K: become a Power Ranger.

Adam K: And the idea, I was like, I was

Adam K: very aware that I was in a

Adam K: movie.

Adam K: And it was this like cool,

Adam K: modern looking style, like Power

Adam K: Ranger suits.

Adam K: And he was the Blue Ranger, which, as we all know that he

Adam K: wasn't the one missing a finger.

Adam K: He was the gay one.

Adam K: They all bullied on set.

Adam K: So that that says that was also the toy I had as a kid.

Adam K: But the the idea was that he had his own.

Adam K: He was he was his own Power Ranger.

Adam K: But I was his dad and I had really bad knees.

Adam K: That's all I really remember was I, I, I

Timothy: That's fatherhood

Adam K: was,

Timothy: right there.

Adam K: I was, I was having a hard time keeping up with him.

Timothy: Oh, yeah.

Adam K: Yeah, I

Timothy: Well, that's

Adam K: don't

Timothy: what

Adam K: know.

Timothy: we got to try and do.

Timothy: Stay healthy.

Adam K: No, I was as I do on a Sunday night.

Adam K: I was, I was walking through the Walmart Supercenter and they,

Adam K: they stopped Walmart radio for a second to be like, hey, you're

Adam K: getting close to fifty.

Adam K: Best to get, you know, get checked.

Adam K: I was like, no, yes I am.

Adam K: I'm closer to fifty than I am to thirty.

Adam K: Crap.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: And it'll happen all at once.

Timothy: Fifty.

Timothy: I've heard is kind of like it feels like you're still young

Timothy: and having fun.

Timothy: If you ever talk to anyone in their fifties.

Timothy: Yeah.

Timothy: That's Sixty.

Timothy: Well, yeah, you're still kind of getting up there.

Timothy: Your things

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: are starting to give out.

Timothy: Seventy?

Timothy: Yeah, probably.

Timothy: I don't think you ever quite give up in your head.

Timothy: You're always trying to feel a little bit younger.

Timothy: And I don't think when I talk I would talk to my my grandpa who

Timothy: got up to one hundred and one at the end and he would tell me,

Timothy: yeah, I don't, I don't feel like I'm ready to quit.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: And he

Adam K: The

Timothy: never

Adam K: mind is strong, but the body was weak.

Timothy: yeah.

Timothy: He, he never was ready to quit.

Adam K: Yeah. Well, I mean, that's going

Adam K: back to like kind of the AI

Adam K: humorism.

Adam K: That's I think that's where I end up.

Adam K: Landing is trying to be on the

Adam K: more optimist side of not

Adam K: necessarily living forever,

Adam K: because I think that's a, that's

Adam K: a fallacy.

Adam K: And that's probably not great with the way humans absorb

Adam K: resources and stuff.

Adam K: But I think a longer, healthier

Adam K: life and a more lived life, um,

Adam K: without fear of my knees going

Adam K: out.

Adam K: So I can't, you know, I just want to hang out with my Power

Adam K: Ranger son, you

Timothy: Exactly.

Adam K: know?

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: Little Billy or little Tommy, they'll need you.

Timothy: Or

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: else they'll never learn to call the Dragonzord.

Adam K: Or wait. Yeah. Green Ranger used the flute and

Timothy: Yeah,

Adam K: then the

Timothy: that

Adam K: white.

Timothy: was

Adam K: The

Timothy: the

Adam K: what?

Timothy: Dragonzord.

Timothy: But

Adam K: Yeah,

Timothy: white one was the tiger.

Adam K: yeah.

Adam K: Why did he switch?

Adam K: It was.

Adam K: Oh, because he was like evil and

Adam K: his evil was running out, I

Adam K: can't remember.

Timothy: I think. Reba. Yeah. Green started as evil, but then

Adam K: Didn't

Timothy: not

Adam K: Z

Timothy: Reba.

Adam K: make the Green Ranger?

Adam K: No. Or did Rita.

Timothy: Rita, not

Adam K: Rita

Timothy: Reba,

Adam K: Repulsa

Timothy: not Reba McEntire.

Timothy: Although

Adam K: Reba

Timothy: that would

Adam K: McEntire

Timothy: make

Adam K: was a different

Timothy: a really

Adam K: villain.

Timothy: great

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: make a really great, uh, version

Adam K: Her.

Timothy: of the Power Rangers. If Reba McEntire was was the villain.

Timothy: Um, yeah, Z and then Z came in later and he kind of reinvented

Timothy: the power putties the

Adam K: Yeah,

Timothy: putties.

Adam K: they had to.

Adam K: They had to touch each other to get rid of them.

Adam K: Right.

Adam K: That

Timothy: Mhm.

Adam K: was the new thing.

Adam K: I forgot

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: how they.

Adam K: They had to kill the old putty

Adam K: patrol by just kicking them or

Adam K: something,

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: right?

Timothy: It was a, it was like a, a thing.

Timothy: You just had to hit the little thing in the middle of their

Timothy: chest and then they

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: would explode.

Adam K: Uh, and then, yeah, Zedd's putty

Adam K: patrol was you had to make them

Adam K: touch.

Adam K: So if he ever sent an odd number, you might.

Adam K: It's almost like a meeseeks

Timothy: Then one always

Adam K: situation.

Timothy: lived.

Adam K: Yeah. But

Timothy: Huh?

Adam K: I think the curse of Zedd was he was, uh, he was anal and

Adam K: everything had to be.

Adam K: He was kind of autistic, and he

Adam K: needed everything to be

Adam K: perfectly square.

Timothy: Uh huh.

Adam K: So he'd always send four or eight.

Adam K: Um.

Timothy: I think it was always in pain,

Timothy: too, because I don't think he

Timothy: had skin.

Timothy: He was otherwise covered in,

Timothy: like, metallic something, but it

Timothy: was always like he had exposed

Timothy: muscles, like

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: he had no skin.

Timothy: Ever. How irritating

Adam K: Speaking of.

Timothy: would that be if you couldn't sleep because you had no skin?

Adam K: Yeah, kind of weird because I.

Adam K: You mentioned Hellraiser

Adam K: earlier.

Adam K: He does look like a Cenobite.

Timothy: He does look like Cenobite.

Adam K: Yeah. I feel like you could rework Z to be a terabyte.

Adam K: We got off topic here, but maybe not actually.

Timothy: Know released back in.

Adam K: No, there is no topic here.

Adam K: Um.

Timothy: You almost got me on fatherhood.

Timothy: But no one wants to talk about babies.

Adam K: You are a father.

Timothy: I am.

Adam K: I'm as

Timothy: That's new.

Adam K: as someone who would one day like to be a father.

Adam K: I don't know how that's going to happen, but, uh, how is

Timothy: Just

Adam K: how

Timothy: live

Adam K: is

Timothy: forever.

Adam K: that's so I, I mentioned this book to Aaron.

Adam K: I don't think he read it, but is

Adam K: this thing called the

Adam K: Postmortal?

Adam K: And it's this idea where you get

Adam K: an injection, you can live

Adam K: forever.

Adam K: And there's a part in the book

Adam K: where the guy who gets the

Adam K: injection is like, I don't know,

Adam K: twenty six or whatever author

Adam K: wishes he was, uh, as the proxy

Adam K: and he, he has a kid, but he,

Adam K: he, like he chickens out on

Adam K: fatherhood and then he, he comes

Adam K: back later.

Adam K: But so like internally he's, uh,

Adam K: whatever, a fifty five year old

Adam K: man, but outside, he's twenty

Adam K: six and he meets his son, who's

Adam K: twenty six and looks just like

Adam K: him.

Timothy: Okay.

Adam K: I was like, what a, what a what

Adam K: a way to not have your child

Adam K: respect you is to look the same

Adam K: as them.

Timothy: Oh, yeah.

Adam K: That was my thought.

Adam K: Like, if your dad looked younger than you, I feel like you would

Adam K: have never looked up to him.

Timothy: No, because

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: part of that is always like, I don't understand what I know.

Timothy: Yeah.

Timothy: My, my idea of my dad is much different.

Timothy: Um, than when I grew up and I,

Timothy: and part of growing up is slowly

Timothy: understanding, oh, you're just

Timothy: like me.

Timothy: And the slow realization of that, if it happened all at

Timothy: once, I'm not sure if that learning would have taken place.

Timothy: And I'm not.

Timothy: I'm not certain it would be.

Timothy: Yeah.

Timothy: No, I, I'd have to really whiteboard that out.

Adam K: When?

Adam K: When will your child figure out

Adam K: your, uh, your a liar that

Adam K: you're uh,

Timothy: Then I'm a liar.

Adam K: that you're, you're not the god

Adam K: that they, they thought you

Adam K: would be.

Timothy: Oh.

Adam K: A charlatan, if you will.

Timothy: I don't know.

Timothy: I'm gonna try my best not to be a liar, but,

Adam K: That's good.

Timothy: uh, there were all of these things that.

Timothy: That my parents would always say to escape, having to lie to me,

Timothy: like saying because I said so

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: that I really detested that I wanted to try and get around.

Timothy: But that's how I learned.

Timothy: I'll probably end up doing the same to them.

Timothy: It's like, oh, I understand now.

Timothy: Mom and dad, it's

Adam K: Yeah,

Timothy: because

Adam K: I.

Timothy: I said so.

Timothy: Now eat your broccoli.

Adam K: I think also because we, we grew up around the same time,

Timothy: Oh.

Adam K: I, I think we probably grew up with a generation of parents

Adam K: that thought there would be no consequences for anything ever.

Adam K: So it was just like, life's great.

Adam K: Uh, we can buy houses for one hundred thousand dollars, and

Adam K: there will be no record of anything that I do except.

Adam K: And now we grew up with this,

Adam K: like, watchful eye, and it's

Adam K: essentially.

Adam K: It doesn't

Timothy: Everything

Adam K: help to

Timothy: is

Adam K: be

Timothy: stored

Adam K: a.

Timothy: forever on the internet.

Adam K: Everything is stored and things

Adam K: will be remembered and you'll be

Adam K: held accountable for your

Adam K: actions.

Adam K: So. I don't know, like in my

Adam K: mind, it's just it's always

Adam K: just, you know, be better than

Adam K: your parents.

Adam K: That should be the goal.

Adam K: Um, break the cycle, that sort of stuff.

Adam K: Um, definitely don't be my dad.

Adam K: Um, yeah, don't, don't go to Desert Storm, son or

Timothy: Okay.

Adam K: me. Um, but I was going to ask, you know, on a serious note.

Adam K: Ah, because we had talked about

Adam K: for my fortieth birthday, which

Adam K: we never did was going on a

Adam K: motorcycle trip.

Adam K: This was before you were a father though, right?

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: Or was it?

Adam K: Yeah. So I hear that a lot of people give up the motorcycle

Adam K: life, uh, once they have a kid, is that something you've

Timothy: I still

Adam K: given

Timothy: have

Adam K: up?

Timothy: the motorcycle in the garage, but no, I haven't taken it out

Timothy: in a while.

Adam K: Yeah. Does it

Timothy: Um.

Adam K: give you pause?

Adam K: Is it like a second thought of

Adam K: like, well, now people rely on

Adam K: me.

Timothy: Slightly. But here's the thing.

Timothy: I absolutely understand love.

Timothy: And in a completely weird and strange capacity now that I did

Timothy: not believe existed.

Timothy: When I look at her.

Timothy: But my daughter.

Timothy: Um, but

Adam K: I

Timothy: I

Adam K: was

Timothy: also

Adam K: just royal.

Timothy: understand.

Adam K: The royal her.

Adam K: Yeah. Like

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: mother nature.

Adam K: Gaia.

Timothy: No. My

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: daughter.

Adam K: Okay.

Timothy: No.

Adam K: Good.

Timothy: Her

Adam K: Okay.

Timothy: nature.

Timothy: Nature.

Adam K: The movie.

Timothy: Um, however, I, I, I also understand that you got to save

Timothy: some time to live a little bit.

Timothy: I mean, when I bought the motorcycle, that was the best

Timothy: therapy that I could ever receive at the time.

Timothy: It was right at the time of

Timothy: Covid that got me out of the

Timothy: house, and I would just do laps

Timothy: around the city, around

Timothy: downtown, around, and no one was

Timothy: out on the road at the time

Timothy: because no one was going

Timothy: anywhere.

Timothy: It was fantastic.

Timothy: But now I absolutely hate

Timothy: driving my motorcycle around in

Timothy: Houston traffic because people

Timothy: are terrible.

Timothy: And

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: so it kind of ruins it.

Timothy: So it's been sitting in the garage a lot.

Timothy: Um,

Adam K: And

Timothy: so

Adam K: you can't

Timothy: I don't

Adam K: Lane

Timothy: know.

Adam K: split, right?

Timothy: No, not in Texas.

Adam K: You don't have to wear a helmet, but you can't Lane split.

Timothy: You don't have

Adam K: Right.

Timothy: to wear a helmet, but.

Timothy: Oh man, it's sure a good idea.

Adam K: You would think.

Adam K: Right?

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: Yeah. Uh, what kind of bike?

Adam K: I'm just curious.

Timothy: Uh, Yamaha s e r nine fifty.

Adam K: Okay.

Timothy: It's the twenty seventeen version.

Adam K: So it's got some kick.

Timothy: It's

Adam K: I

Timothy: got

Adam K: mean.

Timothy: a lot of kick for my first bike, for sure.

Timothy: I had to rein it in.

Adam K: Yeah, I, I went to the Harley dealership.

Adam K: Not that I would ever ride a Harley, but they had an FTR, uh,

Adam K: Indian FDR to test drive.

Adam K: And I was also trying to see how much I get for my rebel because

Adam K: it's it's a it's a five hundred.

Adam K: It's not very fast.

Adam K: It's not very beefy.

Timothy: That's just

Adam K: Uh,

Timothy: what you need.

Adam K: it was my starter bike.

Adam K: It was like,

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: okay, this is same as you just like get around the city.

Adam K: This is okay.

Adam K: We downgraded to, I wouldn't say downgraded.

Adam K: We consolidated to one car

Adam K: instead of two because, uh, LA

Adam K: sucks.

Adam K: It actually makes more sense in LA to have a bike because you

Adam K: are often just walking up very slowly to traffic lights, like,

Adam K: and then getting ahead of everyone and then getting to the

Adam K: next traffic light.

Adam K: So like made sense for me.

Adam K: Um, but I was just like, so part of me is like, well probably get

Adam K: rid of it.

Adam K: At least sell it, use the cash for something, um, depending on

Adam K: where life goes.

Adam K: But then I was like, oh, they have the FDR and I wrote it and

Adam K: it's the first bike I've ever ridden that could corner and

Adam K: like go fast.

Adam K: And it had more than four gears.

Adam K: And, uh, you know, it wanted to keep going faster.

Adam K: And I was like, oh, oh, this is what a big back tire feels like.

Adam K: Oh

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: my God.

Timothy: Did

Adam K: Uh,

Timothy: you figure

Adam K: and.

Timothy: out like, did you figure out your own limit?

Adam K: No, because it was, it was a, it was a chaperoned ride along.

Timothy: Ah, yes.

Adam K: Uh, so

Timothy: Okay.

Adam K: I was following the, the nice gentleman in front of me.

Adam K: He was on his Harley.

Adam K: And so I

Timothy: Uh.

Adam K: was just on the FDR and it was like, it was a little bit of a

Adam K: learning curve just because it was like, okay, my, my foot, the

Adam K: shifter is back a little bit.

Adam K: So that's different.

Adam K: Probably similar to yours is

Adam K: like next to the chain probably

Adam K: because,

Timothy: Uh, no, it's.

Adam K: oh no, it's a Yamaha.

Adam K: It's,

Timothy: Yeah,

Adam K: uh,

Timothy: it's belt driven.

Adam K: yeah, it's, it's like a, um, what's it called?

Timothy: It's like a bolt,

Adam K: Yeah. Okay.

Timothy: almost

Adam K: Gotcha.

Timothy: identical to to the bolt, except

Timothy: for, uh, the bench seat is nice

Timothy: and straight, and so they made

Timothy: it look kind of like a

Timothy: scrambler, except

Adam K: Okay.

Timothy: there's, there's no way that you can take a scrambler and, and,

Timothy: and jump it over a barbed wire fence like like you do in

Adam K: Steve

Timothy: the movies.

Adam K: McQueen.

Timothy: It's.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: Yeah, that's what I wanted it for.

Timothy: Is that that Steve McQueen look.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: Um.

Adam K: Gotta get a, get a get a BMW for that.

Adam K: Get German engineering.

Timothy: Yeah, it

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: needs it needs some more shock absorbers.

Timothy: It needs it needs some more ground clearance, for sure.

Adam K: Yeah. Um but no I, yes I. It, I, I felt that feeling that you

Adam K: were just talking about that like therapeutic, like this

Adam K: cannot be described with words even in a, in a book written by

Adam K: an insane person about the Zen of motorcycle maintenance.

Adam K: It's like nothing captures that feeling.

Adam K: And I know a lot of people call it freedom or whatever it is,

Adam K: but it's just like that, that that fear and that excitement, I

Adam K: don't know what to call it, but it was just like you.

Adam K: You feel this moment of it's almost just pure bliss.

Timothy: You're just

Adam K: It.

Timothy: mainlining life.

Adam K: Yeah. And and it was just in the Marina Harbor.

Adam K: Like we

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: weren't going far.

Adam K: It is, it was near the, uh,

Adam K: there's a small little stretch

Adam K: of highway.

Adam K: It's a ninety, it's the ninety highway.

Adam K: Um, it only goes from like Marina del Rey to like just

Adam K: outside of Culver City.

Adam K: Um, but it's usually empty and

Adam K: there's rarely cops on there and

Adam K: people are pretty much going

Adam K: eighty and like, I take my bike

Adam K: on there and it's pretty bumpy

Adam K: and the winds knocking me

Adam K: around.

Adam K: And I was just like, I thought, what would be the worst thing if

Adam K: I, I went off course a little bit and I just did a quick lap.

Adam K: Uh, but the guy was keeping an

Adam K: eye on me, so I didn't quite do

Adam K: that.

Adam K: But yeah, I, I don't know, there's something about the

Adam K: coastal drive or like I, I was pitching to you going to like

Adam K: Montana or something like that and just doing the backroads and

Adam K: being able to corner around something without, you know,

Adam K: driving like an asshole, just

Timothy: No.

Adam K: like there's something nice about the bike and nature.

Adam K: And I don't know, it's.

Timothy: I've never had a need for speed either.

Timothy: I usually when

Adam K: Yeah,

Timothy: I go out in a group, I'll get left behind

Adam K: yeah.

Timothy: and I'd be like, where's the point?

Timothy: You need to tell me where we're going to end up, because I'll be

Timothy: there five minutes later.

Adam K: Yeah. Um, so I don't know what I would find that would replace

Adam K: that feeling, um, of, for lack of a better word, freedom.

Adam K: Uh, for just, you know,

Timothy: I don't really know.

Adam K: two wheeled bliss.

Adam K: I don't know.

Adam K: Yeah.

Adam K: So I'm torn at the moment.

Adam K: Like, do I continue down this or

Adam K: do I get into quilting or

Adam K: something?

Timothy: Maybe

Adam K: I don't know.

Timothy: skydiving.

Timothy: I don't know for for a, for adrenaline junkies.

Timothy: I don't think quilting is going to quite do

Adam K: I'm

Timothy: it.

Adam K: that's

Timothy: And

Adam K: the

Timothy: I'm

Adam K: thing

Timothy: not

Adam K: though,

Timothy: sure

Adam K: like.

Timothy: if if I've ever considered myself an adrenaline junkie, but

Timothy: I did find

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: myself attracted to the idea of a motorcycle.

Timothy: And then when I got on it, it was just like.

Timothy: Okay, the choice is live or die.

Timothy: What do you want live?

Timothy: Okay, that's what we're

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: focused on, and everything else falls away.

Adam K: Yeah, I'm,

Timothy: It's the best therapy.

Adam K: I

Timothy: The best,

Adam K: am

Timothy: best

Adam K: not

Timothy: therapy.

Adam K: I am not an adrenaline junkie.

Adam K: I am actually in constant fear of my life.

Timothy: Yeah,

Adam K: Uh,

Timothy: it's the same.

Adam K: yeah, I.

Timothy: Look, I have a polo shirt on and

Timothy: glasses for for all of my

Timothy: computer staring.

Timothy: Of course.

Timothy: But you get on a motorcycle, it feels complete.

Adam K: Yeah. And I actually, I know the

Adam K: metal glasses are not cool and

Adam K: they're known as pervert

Adam K: glasses, but I actually had a

Adam K: because I wear glasses when I

Adam K: ride just because I gave up on

Adam K: contacts.

Adam K: It was too complicated, but I

Timothy: Wait, is

Adam K: actually,

Timothy: that what you're wearing right now?

Adam K: um,

Timothy: Is metal glasses?

Adam K: no, no, no, I don't own them.

Adam K: No,

Timothy: Oh, okay.

Adam K: no, I'm not recording this.

Adam K: Don't worry.

Adam K: Even though we're recording

Timothy: You are.

Adam K: all of this California law, you know, um, I would never wear

Adam K: them like in public.

Adam K: But what I'm seeing a lot of people doing is basically

Adam K: getting rid of their GoPros or their Insta360, and they're just

Adam K: wearing the glasses under their helmet because they can record

Adam K: their driving, um, with them.

Adam K: And then I think you can also do like, um, like maps and stuff.

Adam K: And then also there's like a little radio in the back.

Adam K: So it kind of replaces like the Senna.

Adam K: It replaces so much and it's like, okay, now you're just

Adam K: wearing the thing.

Adam K: I was like, that is a great use case actually.

Adam K: And then

Timothy: Huh?

Adam K: I don't know, like if, if I'm in

Adam K: public, maybe I'll just, I'll

Adam K: put some tape over it or

Adam K: something.

Adam K: But

Timothy: Yeah,

Adam K: yeah.

Timothy: except I never could get into wearing glasses inside of my

Timothy: helmet because I had a full face, full shield, and

Adam K: Mhm.

Timothy: if I had glasses on, they would always fog up.

Timothy: I love wearing my glasses.

Timothy: Uh. I see more clearly with

Timothy: glasses on rather than contact

Timothy: lenses.

Timothy: But whenever it came to riding, it would always have to be my

Timothy: visor or glasses.

Adam K: Yeah. I guess maybe my helmet's

Adam K: just really bad and air gets in

Adam K: much easier.

Adam K: Maybe it's the giant hole in the back.

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: Uh,

Timothy: Why

Adam K: it was,

Timothy: is there a hole in the back of your helmet?

Adam K: Uh, it was just, you know, it

Adam K: was more than half off on

Adam K: Facebook Marketplace.

Adam K: So,

Timothy: Fair enough.

Adam K: uh, before we go, I do want to read one message.

Adam K: Uh, so I put my bike up on Facebook marketplace,

Timothy: Sure.

Adam K: um, and dealing with, I don't know if you've ever sold

Adam K: anything on there.

Adam K: Um, but

Timothy: Yes,

Adam K: it's,

Timothy: unfortunately.

Adam K: it's basically, it's the worse of the worse.

Timothy: Yeah, I hate

Adam K: Um,

Timothy: it.

Adam K: so this was from a gentleman, um, from Darryl.

Timothy: Thanks, Darryl.

Adam K: Darryl, I believe, drives a forklift for a living.

Adam K: Um,

Timothy: Good for him.

Adam K: he has some AI images of Jesus on the forklift.

Adam K: Um, but

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: so, so I listed the bike it's on there.

Adam K: He says, man, that bike frame is tiny.

Adam K: It looks like my little sister should be riding it.

Adam K: Nah, it's my little sister, dude.

Adam K: I'm going to go ahead and pay another two thousand dollars and

Adam K: get her a brand new one.

Adam K: Hey, sis.

Adam K: Enjoy your ride.

Timothy: Was

Adam K: I

Timothy: that

Adam K: was,

Timothy: necessary?

Adam K: I don't know.

Adam K: And

Timothy: It was.

Adam K: I was

Timothy: This

Adam K: like.

Timothy: was to buy your Honda Rebel.

Adam K: We're just, I don't know, maybe he was a bid for connection.

Timothy: Okay.

Adam K: Either

Timothy: You see?

Adam K: way, I hope, I hope the AI wins is what

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: I'm saying. Yeah. If I have to deal with this shit, um,

Timothy: And, yeah, I

Adam K: I.

Timothy: hope I hope for the Daryl's of

Timothy: the world that that because

Timothy: we'll we'll we'll all be put in

Timothy: our place of of just being a

Timothy: meat resource.

Adam K: Yeah. Or.

Timothy: And so if we're all down hanging

Timothy: out with Daryl's of the world,

Timothy: then, uh, I hope we can find

Timothy: some way to get along with one

Timothy: another again.

Adam K: I spent all weekend thinking of

Adam K: replies of just being like, so

Adam K: did you want to buy it or like,

Adam K: uh, or

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: be like, is everything okay?

Adam K: Um, I went to the negative place

Adam K: of I don't, I, I don't think

Adam K: this bike would work for

Adam K: overweight people.

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: Or like you're right, the frame is too small for her.

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: Um, but I don't but that's, that's just mean.

Adam K: And it's

Timothy: Petty.

Adam K: every,

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: every

Timothy: But he started it.

Adam K: he did start it and he's like looking for a fight, but also

Adam K: like looking at his profile, which I was like, why am I

Adam K: looking at his profile?

Adam K: I felt more bad for the guy.

Adam K: Um, so I'm thinking like, I'm just like, okay, clearly this is

Adam K: not a guy who's got everything going on in his life that he,

Timothy: No.

Adam K: he's trying to, I don't know, nag me on or something.

Timothy: Ah!

Adam K: So I was like, I was like

Adam K: bothered by it, but then I, I, I

Adam K: forgot about it until we started

Adam K: talking now.

Timothy: He

Adam K: So.

Timothy: wants he wants some kind of an interaction.

Adam K: Right.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: And

Adam K: I think.

Timothy: and and if you work in the trades long enough.

Timothy: I love tradesmen because you can

Timothy: say anything to them and they

Timothy: won't.

Timothy: They, they won't write on the

Timothy: internet about it and they will

Timothy: either fight you or they'll

Timothy: laugh.

Timothy: And

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: there's something honest about that.

Timothy: Construction workers, tradesmen.

Timothy: I love a good poop dick and fart joke.

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: I would, I would get along.

Adam K: Daryl looks like he's in his late fifties, early sixties.

Adam K: Probably has had a bit of a rough life.

Adam K: Some pictures.

Adam K: He's got a pretty good mustache.

Adam K: Other times he's shaved and he

Adam K: looks like he's, like, trying to

Adam K: get sober.

Adam K: Um,

Timothy: Uh.

Adam K: uh, he has pictures of

Adam K: motorcycles that I positive he

Adam K: doesn't own.

Adam K: They're just, you know, it's essentially a Pinterest board.

Adam K: So I don't I don't think I'll respond.

Adam K: Um,

Timothy: We love you, Daryl.

Adam K: yeah.

Timothy: Uh, we

Adam K: Daryl.

Timothy: hope that we hope you'll you'll get happy.

Timothy: And.

Timothy: And maybe the Honda isn't for you.

Timothy: But I want to know that we need more of those jokes.

Timothy: Send us more jokes and and

Timothy: pictures of your of your

Timothy: overweight daughter.

Adam K: Was he calling me sis?

Adam K: Or was he talking to his sister through a message to me?

Adam K: I'm.

Timothy: It's hard to say.

Timothy: Maybe he was calling you sister.

Adam K: Right.

Timothy: Like. Like brother.

Timothy: Sister?

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: I don't

Adam K: Or

Timothy: know.

Adam K: basically saying like, I

Adam K: wouldn't buy I wouldn't buy this

Adam K: bike for my sister who's more of

Adam K: a man than you are, which is

Adam K: like.

Timothy: Yeah.

Adam K: Like, based on the way your politics lean and the things you

Adam K: care about in life.

Adam K: That's an insult to your, you know, I

Timothy: To your type people.

Adam K: your type.

Adam K: Yeah. I'm not hurt by it.

Adam K: You you believe me?

Adam K: It would take so much more than

Adam K: to, like, call out my, uh, my

Adam K: machoism, which I don't have

Adam K: much of.

Adam K: So, yeah, lack of machismo for Daryl.

Adam K: But, you know, I'm sure he likes hanging out with sweaty guys.

Adam K: He watches wrestling for the story, and I wish him the best.

Adam K: So.

Timothy: Fair enough.

Adam K: So with that said, Duff, thank

Adam K: you for being on here and being

Adam K: something I can talk to you for

Adam K: an hour.

Timothy: Absolutely.

Timothy: I am

Adam K: Yeah.

Timothy: here to be talked to at any time.

Adam K: This is so much cheaper than

Adam K: therapy, and I appreciate your

Adam K: time.

Timothy: Okay.

Adam K: Uh, if you could get back to me

Adam K: about why my son was a Power

Adam K: Ranger, that would mean a lot to

Adam K: me.

Timothy: I got that.

Timothy: No,

Adam K: Thank

Timothy: I'll

Adam K: you.

Timothy: break out the dream interpretation book.

Adam K: Okay.

Timothy: We'll circle

Adam K: Um,

Timothy: back.

Adam K: people can follow you on Tumblr.

Adam K: Uh, links will be in the show notes.

Adam K: We don't have show notes.

Timothy: There you go.

Adam K: All

Timothy: You can.

Adam K: right.

Timothy: You can follow my Xanga.

Adam K: Didn't they make Candy crush or something?

Timothy: Yeah. Something.

Adam K: Well, thank you for your time.

Adam K: We should have you on again.

Adam K: When, uh, when Aaron's back.

Adam K: And you can you can help me talk about smart stuff.

Timothy: You got it.

Timothy: We'll gang up on him.

Adam K: Yeah. I'm so tired of talking about cars.

Timothy: Anyway, I gotta go and get my daughter.

Timothy: I think my wife has to talk to someone with real problems.

Adam K: Okay. Brag about it

Timothy: Bye.

Adam K: later.

Adam K: Bye.